Archive talk:A/W Bull Spam Moebius

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Kiters BEWARE!! mwahaha! Extreme (contribs) 23:21, 19 April 2008 (EDT)


 * Love me.[[Image:ExtremeSigPic.jpg|19px]] Extreme (contribs) 00:34, 20 April 2008 (EDT)


 * I'm impatient, give this page a hit, now. [[Image:ExtremeSigPic.jpg|19px]] Extreme (contribs) 13:17, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
 * ENERGY! (i wtb) God  box   13:46, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
 * I have some zealous daggers and 13 crit strikes for sale if you want them. 10k or trade for pvp armor and pvp daggers.[[Image:ExtremeSigPic.jpg|19px]] Extreme (contribs) 13:49, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Could be nice with a IAS too, like flail. God  box   13:53, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Thats a good idea, maybe that instead of Rush. To be honest i have never used flail on a sin before so idk how effective it is. But i know that Rush is nice.[[Image:ExtremeSigPic.jpg|19px]] Extreme (contribs) 13:58, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
 * You need rush for cancel. God  box   14:04, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
 * To be honest the IAS isn't needed, its kinda a variant thing. For RA maybe. But for right now ill keep it in the variants for RA.[[Image:ExtremeSigPic.jpg|19px]] Extreme (contribs) 14:07, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
 * It seems pretty solid. Still, take Recall out of the main bar, as 2 out of the 3 tags don't need it. Seems kinda generic but the ability to spam Bull's is rather unused. I would give it a high rating (aka put it into Testing bitch). --[[image:GoD Sig3.jpg|20px]] Guild of  Deals  14:36, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Ok, ill take Recall out of main bar. And let the testing begin!(bitches)[[Image:ExtremeSigPic.jpg|19px]] Extreme (contribs) 14:39, 20 April 2008 (EDT)

Replace Bull's Strike with Wild Blow & this is exactly what I've been using in RA for a few days. I think WB is much more useful offensively, as it ensures your chain will go thru on anyone using stances for defense. - insidious  420  10:24, 23 April 2008 (EDT)
 * lolno. Why would you EVER wanna use Wild Blow on a Sin? Take Wild Strike. And you shouldn't do it for the Crit, because Sins have loads of those.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 10:26, 23 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Little late reply but: Wild Blow is sometimes useful cuz it can be used on demand w/o messing up a chain combo & it doesn't require an enchantment or lead attack. Wild Strike (preceded by Golden Fox) requires both to be 100% unblockable.  But yes Golden Fox + Wild Strike is usually better for stance removal. -  insidious  420  22:48, 11 November 2008 (EST)

Go back to Moebius Horns of the Ox spammer with Flail, constant KD and better anti kiter. Bulls Strike fails when you have a stronger attack that's spammable &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.113.84.3 (talk &bull; contribs).
 * Flail is dead. [[Image:KJ needed a new sig....sig.png]] 21:14, 18 March 2009

Ricky's vote
...Healing is a counter to EVERYTHING. GPS+TF+MS+DB (spamming MS/DB) should bring down your health. Seriously, just no. -- Guild of  Deals  16:50, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
 * I'm not changing it, cuz it's true.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 16:53, 20 April 2008 (EDT)


 * Ok, I'll go rate Shock Axe a 0-0-0 because it can be countered by B-Surge. --[[image:GoD Sig3.jpg|20px]] Guild of  Deals  16:54, 20 April 2008 (EDT)


 * That is a pretty fail vote...[[Image:ExtremeSigPic.jpg|19px]] Extreme (contribs) 20:57, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
 * This got vetted into the good category and this does more damage. Remove Ricky's vote...[[Image:ExtremeSigPic.jpg|19px]] Extreme (contribs) 21:07, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
 * I respect Ricky but your vote doesn't make any sense. Other builds of lower caliber damage have been vetted and this has great pressure. And remember mb and db both have 2 second recharge so that chain spam never really loses its pressure. I just really dont see your logic. Please explain better.[[Image:ExtremeSigPic.jpg|19px]] Extreme (contribs) 22:46, 20 April 2008 (EDT)

Ricky you are wrong. ms+db adds crazy pressure even when the target is being healed, and while you can't spam out knockdowns then you shouldn't need to either. Additionally you will most likely get most targets below 50% because of WoH and such and therefore this is quite effective. You never lose pressure, you just lose some additional flexibility, and that's in the worst case scenario. God box   10:45, 21 April 2008 (EDT)

FUCK YOU ALL!!!! *dives off a cliff, while exploding into a fire*  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ  16:14, 21 April 2008 (EDT)

How come..
Every time a MS/DB build gets posted everyone QQ's and says: Amagawd, this has been posted like 8k times before!!11!11oneone, but when someone decides to add bulls (Which is awesome, don't get me wrong please.)hell freezes and everyone screams; yayay; into great asapasapasap!  BRAND NEW 
 * Because Bull's is awesome. --71.229 16:25, 21 April 2008 (EDT)
 * And because this is PvP.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 16:26, 21 April 2008 (EDT)
 * And because im more sexy than ther users.[[Image:ExtremeSigPic.jpg|19px]] Extreme (contribs) 16:28, 21 April 2008 (EDT)
 * No.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 16:28, 21 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Yes. his point was most valid; Bulls is awesome agreed. But don't try to tell me no one ever submitted a MS/DB build for pvp purposes yet.  BRAND NEW 
 * I'd QQ if someone posted yet another MS/DB build for PvE. Mostly because those lack originality and are usually either dupes down right shit.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 16:31, 21 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Then start QQ'ing already, PvE MS/DB will never be stopped. (probably.) Buttt; you didn't really give a valid arguement for your 'this is pvp.' statement did ya? Because (i assume.) other MS/DB builds have been submitted for pvp.  BRAND NEW 
 * This is where you're wrong... The usual MS/DB builds just use it because it's DB/MS. This, however, uses it to spam the awesomest PvP skill, called Bull's Strike.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 16:35, 21 April 2008 (EDT)
 * yeyeyeye, I got that point. - and this is the point where your vote stops making sense. - - or did you change it? - - I'm to lazy to check it anyway. -  BRAND NEW 
 * I told you all to go fuck yourselves, right before I changed my vote. I don't know what I was thinking when I voted it THAT low (lololol, it wasn't even that low)  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 16:40, 21 April 2008 (EDT)
 * What are you two discussing? God  box   10:53, 23 April 2008 (EDT)