Archive talk:Team - Urgoz Caster Spike

Been cleaning up a bit, can somebody take a quick look through see if I've made any big mistakes before I add guide & move to buildspace? A ndy 13:36, December 24, 2009 (UTC)


 * looks good, maybe get rid of the other ones? or turn this into a guide for all urgoz builds? this is the general outlines for caster builds, maybe and "other dmg dealers" like manlyway, etc?--68.227.200.227 05:17, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the cryway build submitted has been WELL'd but I'm leaving the shitterflames one as it uses different tanks. I didn't include manly spike as the usage is quite different in certain rooms, and I didn't want to over-complicate things. A ndy 15:46, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * You mind telling me what "WELL'd" means? I've seen this mentioned on build talk pages regarding some sort of rating that builds can receive.  I'm new, so thanks in advance. --Supernick530 05:05, December 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Basically, it means that it's inferior to something else, or it's a dupe of something else. Might not be exactly what PW:WELL says, but that's what it's used for. Life   Guardian  05:06, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Are you kidding me? Do that many people actually run Urgoz for there to be THREE featured builds? 66.69.194.203 06:50, December 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Urgoz is srs bsns. Consitini  08:10, December 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes. A ndy 13:06, December 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Tbh 1 needs to be WELL'd and 1 needs to be moved to userspace until SF is nerfed. We also have a dire lack of other things to post. - [[Image:Porororroro lau.gif]] Athrun Feya - 16:30, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Found new tank build (it's difficult but works, was tested with success) [build prof=Warrior/Assassin Strength=12+1+3 shadow=12][Shadow Form][Deadly Paradox][Signet of Stamina]["I am Unstoppable!"][Dolyak Signet][Dark Escape][Caltrops][Endure Pain][/build] It's hard and sometimes akward (endure pain can be replaced, hardly used) but was successful, also combine it with a spirit spammer who has armor of unfeeling --69.156.54.204 07:17, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

With the recent nerf, i have adapt, in my team, the build of the tank in Urgoz. They allow skip but you are not protect to spirit of disenchant, I think that it's more difficult because wolves makes heavy damage and you can't avoid their attack.Here the build that i use now.

M edinar 18:59, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

FoC
Seeing as builds using FoC- spike hold the record at 13 minutes, I guess they should be added. Something like this?

A ndy 16:03, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, apparently nobody else cares, so I'm adding it. A ndy 15:28, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Still Current?
Is this still current...? I don't particularly mean the damage dealers, they seem to always have been a variable, which is fine, and the damage skills have not changed in any major ways. Though, DwG likely needs added to it as a possibility, and an SoS was relatively popular to bring here last time I went (liiiike everywhere else), and it may be notable that cryway is kindof very very dead. But I'm very sure the bonder bar is no longer current at the least. A closer bar would be;

Unfortunately Mantra of Inscriptions got nerfed, so that would just open up as an optional slot. But still much much closer and more common than that Vital Blessing/"Make Haste!" crap. The BiP is a nice suggestion, but needs Awaken the Blood, a 55/1 hp note, and to clear off some spaces as optionals. Not because there's anything wrong with them, but they do not reflect the most common. With more/as much of Protection Prayers as the monks he may as well take Protective Spirit too, but that may just be imo. darkoak 08:27, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

lol.
All the crappy mesmer builds and copies of BuH on everything. Cuilan 20:07, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Updates happen and builds become outdated. Would you mind making suggestions? -- Toraen <font face="Courier New" color="DarkGoldenrod">TheJanitor [[image:ToraenSig2.png|link=User:Toraen]] 20:11, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8752/urgozteam.jpg Those are the record bars off guru somewhere--TahiriVeila 21:05, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The core builds and the first set of builds were recently updated. BuH needs removing (you do it since you care enough to post about it), along with probably FoC-spike, cryway and rainbow-spike. Once that's done the builds are fine. This page is full of 2.5 year old builds tbh... Andy 10:49, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Updating to current
Will be updating this page redoing not only the builds but also the tactics. But first question, should the dual tank method be kept for legacy reasons or no? If everyone wants it kept I will leave it on the page. Otherwise I will only have a small remark referring to it and the video link and not keeping the entire guide part. Shadeinthebox (talk) 22:58, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 * If you redo both tactics and builds it might be best to make an entirely new build page. --Krschkr (talk) 23:17, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I had thought about it but there's no reason to. With skill changes and new ways of doing things over the years the casterspike is still caster spike, but I was part of the alliances (the lead kurzick one's for years) and I ran the urgoz for them. The differences is mainly only using one tank, and using 2 monks no Ss bonding stuff. The AI update also changed things. I believe it's best to just update this to current methods as it's not a whole new way of doing anything. But after I do the changes we can decide but maybe redoing isn't best term for what I meant. Shadeinthebox (talk) 23:35, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 * If the new tactic is just clearly superior overwrite this. --Krschkr (talk) 23:43, 22 September 2018 (UTC)


 * If there is a bonder in the team, the tank does not need Stoneflesh Aura. Mental Block is a total useless skill to bring. I would change those skills to HoS or Viper's Defense and swap. If the damage is mostly from Splinter Barrage, then why the Necroe not have Mark of pain?. If the timing is correct, you won't get shattering foes, though this will be hard, and people just not ever going to do it this way. Anyway; I would Replace the Necroe bonder to a Mesmer bonder with Energy surge. Ad a Dervish VoS, and have mesmers as damage instead Splinter Barrage, tough it could be fun. All the teams I see now in Urgoz do it with Mesmers as main damage, 1 that brings Deep Freeze, And a SoS ritualist with Edge of Exstinction. Appropriate builds should be posted instead this setup, and moved to great working section since this is an almost daily run that people still do. if want, I can post more current builds to this page so people could use it--Emilesin (talk) 15:02, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Almost everything on this page is incorrect/outdated. I started reworking it a couple years ago, and have a document with all of the changes I made, if you want that I can share the file. I am not bothering to work on it anymore though. Shadeinthebox (talk) 16:31, 21 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Tough this dual tank movie is so great to watch.
 * But made in the year 2011. There should be some sort nostalgic honor stage for this build. Maybe better make just a total new Urgoz caster spike post for the great working build section. But not trash this one, would feel like some museum art piece gets destroyed. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Emilesin (talk &bull; contribs) 19:06, 21 November 2019‎ (UTC).
 * The nostalgic honor stage is moving a build to the archive namespace. --Krschkr (talk) 23:02, 21 November 2019 (UTC)