Archive talk:A/Me Dwarven Wastrel's Runner

That better? --Sam6555 15:48, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Aye. Can aswell put it in testing. "You Move Like a Dwarf!"? IAU is unnecessary if you can run right, either hex removal is also replaceable, since it functions as one. -- -Ch  ao  s-   15:55, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Is testing the next step up from trial? This is my first submitted build if you couldn't have guessed :o --Sam6555 16:05, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah. Basically you can skip the trial step if you want to, but that means people can vote on it even if a build is unfinished. -- -Ch  ao  s-   16:06, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah okay that makes things much easier to understand trial=people to say if they wanna change a specific skill or suggest extras, testing=people voting, then it goes into great/good/other. Thanks for clearing that up. :) Going into testing now. --Sam6555 16:08, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Epic
I'm running this on my mesmer just as I write this, managed to get through Lornar's and Dreadnought's so far. Shall be fun to see if I can get through Snake Dance too. The mesmer armor probably should be modded with Blessed insignias (using survivor myself) since 60AR is a tad low at times. Anyway, the build works, not great but pretty good on a mesmer, so it should work good on a sin since that is what it's made for. It's certainly faster than SF runners and maybe faster than Dervish runners too, just not as safe. Kurtan 17:20, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Sentry's insignia for +10 in stance. Is energy fine for spamming Dash? -- -Ch  ao  s-   17:23, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * (ec)Cool, if you do a full run without too much troubles, tell us. I'll update the note to say it can be done :) --Sam6555 17:24, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh right, Sentry's.. I forgot about their existence. And Dash, well, I think I'd rather stay in Drunken Master the entire time. There is something comforting about it's long duration, atleast to me. Kurtan 17:30, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Btw, dash isn't in this build. --Sam6555 17:36, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * That's why I asked if the build manages it -- -Ch  ao  s-   17:38, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Speed>Neurotic skill choice -- -Ch  ao  s-   17:38, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, here's an update. In Camp Rankor atm and the rest to Droknar should be easy. So you can add a note about mesmers being able to do it. Just stay away from groups with more than 3 Imps or golems as they can be annoying and don't jump to a Pinesoul as they use Barbed Trap. Otherwise, quite easy as long as you get past Lornar's the rest is a walk. And about Dash, don't think the energy would be to much of a problem, Dwarven Stability = longer Dash and DS only needs to be renewed every 30sec and everything else only costs 5 energy and won't be used that often. Gonna give it a shot with Dash after I get to Droknar. Kurtan 17:47, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

So strong. -- -Ch  ao  s-   18:04, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess I could add the dash build as a variant, or vice-versa. --Sam6555 18:31, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Mainbar that tbh. The less variants the better. Can Hex Breaker without drawbacks on speed, and it could well fit in IAU to not need alcohol at all. -- -Ch  ao  s-   18:33, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * hex breaker + dash is gud right? I mean who cares about cancelling? :<--TahiriVeila 20:29, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Thats what I was thinking. --Sam6555 20:30, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * 2s gap, gogo time those stances. -- -Ch  ao  s-   20:40, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * My build has constant speed, has been tested on both mesmers and assassins. And you can also work on drunkard at the same time. --Sam6555 21:14, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Constant speed doesn't mean anything when Dash+DS gives a higher average speed and deaggros better. You can work on Drunkard with Chaos's build (or any running build) even if it doesn't give benefit to your running. Toraen   talk  00:37, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

ahwell
I'd anytime use this > SF, if running on a sin. -- -Ch  ao  s-   16:45, September 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * which is when? I havn't seen anyone run droks in a year and a half. there are already several any/profession builds that do the job Athrun [[image:Athrun_Sig.gif]]Feya  16:51, September 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * When's the last time you even had a look in Beacon's? :> There's still an existing amount of runners, and this bar isn't inferior to any other possibility we have for a sin to run. -- -Ch  ao  s-   16:54, September 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm just fed up with there being loads of builds in the pve section that technically work, but no one will ever use. Going to propose some changes pretty soon. Athrun [[image:Athrun_Sig.gif]]Feya  16:57, September 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * That I can relate to. -- -Ch  ao  s-   17:02, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

People might not use this build, thats up to them. But they could always use them for inspiration to make their own builds. Also 'assassins running? without SF?' Yes, assassins are allowed to run. And running without SF is alot faster than with it. --Sam6555 17:48, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

lol, and next a see a rit and para's running. these pvx folks can get real creative :)68.227.202.180 23:20, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * you can never have enough useful builds--Relyk 23:58, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * You can never have too little bad ones :> -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 06:35, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

beee cool
this is jjberks... cant sign on cuz parents blocked for somereason :p 72.81.64.221 20:06, October 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * lol gg parents. I though up a echo dash build (might have been exactly the same) around the same time my friend sent me the wastrel one, she said the only downside was the ~10 secs when echo ran out. So idk O.o --Sam6555 20:54, October 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * yah -.- haha... if ur gonna use alcohol then ill bring "FNP" instead of IAU. 72.81.64.221 22:14, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

could someone post a video of the original build. im having a lot of problems with the hexes and such. i dont seem to get away quick enough before they hex me again --Joey June Ill 00:59, October 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * joey, if you are running droks for the first time, use a/r shadow runner. It is more efficent and easier. Demonic Sin Ex 01:21, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Out of date
No one uses this build for assassin primaries as A/R is a lot better, and mesmers can do me/a with sf. I suggest changing this into a wastrel's build designed for speed/non or few hex areas. Demonic Sin Ex 06:41, 27 November 2010 (UTC)


 * actually lets get rid of this build and I'm going to make a new wastrels runner designed for speed. Demonic Sin Ex 06:41, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * But, but, I went to all the effort of moving it! Toraen -Gifts Plz [[image:ToraenSig3.png|19px]] 06:50, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * but,but I just made a new build too! Let's keep both builds lol Demonic Sin Ex 07:00, 27 November 2010 (UTC)