User talk:Rickyvantof/TA BB Spike

Why not used Death's Blossom instead of Twisting Fangs, that way you can spike more often. -- Frosty  11:53, 18 November 2008 (EST)
 * and more damage, the warrior has DW anyway.  • Saint TALK 11:55, 18 November 2008 (EST) 
 * yups. -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 11:56, 18 November 2008 (EST)
 * (ECx2)Orly? Do you have any idea how long it takes to charge BB? :P Also DB will probably end before you use BoS, so that would be rather bad. I was however thinking of Nine Tail Strike because CB already provides DW.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 11:56, 18 November 2008 (EST)
 * fox's promise would be a better elite then AoD imo.  • Saint TALK 11:57, 18 November 2008 (EST) 
 * Need a Shadowstep in order to be able to spike properly though.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 11:58, 18 November 2008 (EST)
 * aftercast defeats the point in small 4v4's.  • Saint TALK 11:58, 18 November 2008 (EST) 
 * No, not really, the Sin will still be able to get both Fallings on the BB'd target, so aftercast doesn't matter.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 11:59, 18 November 2008 (EST)
 * my point was the cast of the tele and the aftercast could just be used to walk to the target. if the warrior is already walking to the target there is no harm in the sin walking to him too, everyone will know the spike is coming regardless of AoD.  • Saint TALK 12:00, 18 November 2008 (EST) 

Return, Shockwave style. -- Frosty  12:01, 18 November 2008 (EST)
 * (ec)That would make it a very unreliable spike.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 12:02, 18 November 2008 (EST)
 * Oh, yeah, return might work.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 12:02, 18 November 2008 (EST)

-- Frosty  12:27, 18 November 2008 (EST)
 * BoS is too powerful to be left out.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 12:27, 18 November 2008 (EST)
 * Death's Blossom x2 and also isn't MTS with fox's promise kinda redundant? -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 12:28, 18 November 2008 (EST)


 * What would you use over NTS? TF is redundant and DB gimps BoS. -- ›[[Image:Many srs beans.png|Srs Bean Mafia.]] Srs Beans R Srs  12:29, 18 November 2008 (EST)

I'm still not sure about Fox's Promise, because if the target is blocking, BB won't get through anyway.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ  12:31, 18 November 2008 (EST)
 * I bet you can get BoS to get full damage with DB. -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 12:32, 18 November 2008 (EST)
 * It only does like 10more damage than NTS anyway.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 12:33, 18 November 2008 (EST)

Shattering Assault instead of NTS, perhaps?  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ  12:35, 18 November 2008 (EST)