User talk:Jjberks/Archive 1

your build
Your build should either be placed in your username by User:Jjberks/RA Derv/Mo Healing Tank or have the name Build:D/Mo RA Healing Tank. If the latter is used. It must be placed with a tag if you're still working on it, or if you're done, place a  if you're ready for your build to be voted or  if you want to face criticism. I've moved your build to User:Jjberks/RA Derv/Mo Healing Tank for you to finish it off. When you're done place either the testing or trial tags on your build and move it and follow the build-naming policy. Ace  (LVPoW) 23:20, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Ye, sign your comments thanks :) God  box    15:17, 11 June 2008 (EDT)


 * srry im new at pvxwiki. User_:jjberks

Your build has been moved to as per PvXwiki:Editing Builds.Also, sign your comments just by adding four tildes ( ~ ) to the end of your posts (you can also click the signature button on the toolbar). The way you signed the last comment is wrong, since you linked to the wrong page (Since your username is Jjberks, you can't capitalize the second J or the B in links - User:JJBerks and User:Jjberks are different pages). [[User:Wizardboy777| &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 19:57, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

Unfortunately, we only allow one account per person on this Wiki. In accordance to that policy, User:Andaroo has been blocked for its use as a second account and sock-voting. Please limit your contributions to one single account. &mdash; Rapta   (talk|contribs) 23:40, 2 July 2008 (EDT) Exscuse me but, isnt it possible to have little bros?????? yah thats my bro you blocked good job!!!! Jjberks 22:16, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

your vote
on Archive:A/E Perma Daggers Farmer seems to reflect a personal bias against me (no doubt resulting from our discussions here) rather than an honest reflection of the build's abilities. it is the old one, and had a near-perfect '5' rating; while it is slower now, it is still far too functional to warrant a 0-0 rating.-- reason '''.  decrystallized '  In real life, pokemons would be used as sex toys. '' 23:37, 11 August 2008 (EDT)


 * Its already a build... anyone could have thought on their own to change the attributes... just saying man Jjberks 23:39, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
 * that doesn't make sense ... it IS the old build, it was just un-archived and is now back in testing.-- reason ' . ' decrystallized   In real life, pokemons would be used as sex toys.  23:41, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
 * and the point about your vote reflecting personal bias rather than the abilities of the build in question still stands ...-- reason ' . ' decrystallized   In real life, pokemons would be used as sex toys.  23:45, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Basically cry less, and have a good day, also please apply a proper vote to the above mentioned build or I'll ask an admin to remove it, thanks. Selket Shadowdancer 04:29, 12 August 2008 (EDT)

Karate, What about this
[build prof=Warrior/Dervish HammerMastery=11+1+1 Strength=10+1 WindPrayers=10][Devastating Hammer][Crushing Blow][Heavy Blow]["None Shall Pass!"][Frenzy][Rush][Natural Healing][Resurrection Signet][/build]

Frenzy? No or Yes?


 * Frenzy is fine, but the build still isn't great. None Shall Pass is kind of a crappy skill really and there are a lot of KD hammer builds that do more damage and heal easier. Sorry bud. Karate Jesus 20:23, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Oh and honestly, I prefer the Flail/Enraging Charge combo. Karate Jesus 20:25, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
 * but i think it is harder to cancel out flail with enraging if there is a runner. Jjberks 20:30, 12 August 2008 (EDT)

[build prof=Ranger/Ritualist WildernessSurvival=12+1+1 Marksmanship=7+2 Expertise=7+1 Communing=7][Forked Arrow][Dual Shot][Incendiary Arrows][Ignite Arrows][Splinter Weapon][Favorable Winds][Troll Unguent][Natural Stride][/build]


 * I think there's a build like that already made. I'll check and link it if it is. Karate Jesus 09:30, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

You might want to lower your vote a little or be a little more honest of how good that build is. Otherwise, your vote will get removed. Karate Jesus 18:49, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

Userboxes
Lol copy and paste a helluva lot of useboxes mate.-- Liger414 talk  15:54, 17 October 2008 (EDT) lol yups... to lazy to do it on my own Jjberks 15:56, 17 October 2008 (EDT) Heh I'm trying not to make ma page a massive userbox tbh ;)-- Liger414 talk  15:57, 17 October 2008 (EDT)

Sigs
ups --  Guild  of   Deals   12:54, 2 November 2008 (EST)

Dun be bad, its a 60al that isn't frontlining (note, the spear is ranged), mesmers, monks, and necros have 60 al, and are also ranged (albeit farther, but barely), elaborate on your point, or remove it. Kamer (Talk|Contributions) 23:19, 3 November 2008 (EST)
 * Its not a very good build... --[[Image:Jjberks Sig 1.jpg|19px]]  JJ  berks   contrib  17:36, 5 November 2008 (EST)

Socking
Please explain your relationship to User:Andy =D. - Misery  Is  Friendly   16:30, 6 November 2008 (EST)
 * My lil bro. --[[Image:Jjberks Sig 1.jpg|19px]]  JJ  berks   contrib  16:31, 6 November 2008 (EST)
 * I believe people on the same IP cannot vote on the same builds. -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 16:32, 6 November 2008 (EST)
 * Ok swipe his votes... --[[Image:Jjberks Sig 1.jpg|19px]]  JJ  berks   contrib  16:33, 6 November 2008 (EST)
 * He's really my lil bro... hes not a fake acc seriously. [[Image:Jjberks Sig 1.jpg|19px]]  JJ  berks   contrib  16:34, 6 November 2008 (EST)
 * Just make sure you don't vote on the same builds and everything will be peachy. - Misery  Is  Friendly  [[image:Misery Dog obaby.gif|19px]] 16:35, 6 November 2008 (EST)
 * KK... he was just trying to help me out... on some of my builds cause i had 4 votes and he made 5... --[[Image:Jjberks Sig 1.jpg|19px]]  JJ  berks   contrib  16:36, 6 November 2008 (EST)
 * That... would be the definition of socking. - Misery  Is  Friendly  [[image:Misery Dog obaby.gif|19px]] 16:38, 6 November 2008 (EST)
 * Oh, you can also consider this your formal warning about socking in general as per PvX:DIS while we are at it, so don't let me see any other accounts popping up on this IP, your sister perhaps, without discussing it with an admin first. - Misery  Is  Friendly  [[image:Misery Dog obaby.gif|19px]] 16:40, 6 November 2008 (EST)
 * How do you know i have a sister stalker XD jk &rarr; J.J.  berks   (contrib)  23:17, 5 December 2008 (EST)

Your Sig
needs " " in it so you don't bugger up discussions etc. Spaggage  talk  05:21, 8 November 2008 (EST)
 * ty pal. --JJBerks 10:53, 8 November 2008 (EST)

Otan
whats it stand for?-- Shadow 17:28, 10 November 2008 (EST)
 * Ihave know idea, I just made up a name that sounds like a fantasy name, jjberks has been my name FOREVER so thats why it is my User name. --Jjberks

"You are running utility skills in a spike build"
Sorry it's not like ED takes Debil or Rend, or Endurance axe takes bull's strike etc. Don't be bad. -- Frosty  20:53, 14 November 2008 (EST)

if did suck
ur W/A build did suck, and im not saying that my monk was any better. but dont that it out on my UW farmer :P its godly Whip  lash  513  12:03, 27 November 2008 (EST)
 * Iknow it suckz, but don't be such an elitist, don't act like you know more than me and your superior... jeez &rarr; J.J.  berks   (contrib)  22:09, 27 November 2008 (EST)
 * Do u even know what an elitist is jj?-- Shadow Relyk [[Image:Relyk srs.gif|19px]] 03:44, 28 November 2008 (EST)
 * yah... &rarr; J.J.  berks   (contrib)  13:37, 28 November 2008 (EST)

I suck at GWs
ups→ J.J.  berks   (contrib)  16:01, 4 December 2008 (EST)
 * yah you do suck =P &rarr; Andy  roo  23:06, 5 December 2008 (EST)

wow

 * 1) Knows what he is doing, probally one of the smartest users on PvX. → J.J.  berks   (contrib)  11:29, 25 December 2008 (EST)

I guess I should say thank you, but I am not one of the smartest users on pvx lol. <font color="Blue">Frosty <font color="Blue"> po!  13:46, 25 December 2008 (EST)

inferior my @$&
noob my roj is inferior to none! Pitbull23701 21:05, 4 January 2009 (EST)

I agree that it's more challenging, but what makes it slower than any other warrior? --''' -Ch ao  s-   22:57, 5 January 2009 (EST)
 * I didn't say it was slow than any other war, i said that VoS is better, but ill raise it to a 4.6 since it works =P. &rarr;<small style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Felix Titling;border-style:solid;border-width:2px;border-color:gold;background-color:black;padding:0px 5px 1px 6px;"> J.J.  berks   (contrib)  22:59, 5 January 2009 (EST)


 * Thanks for that. --''' -Ch ao  s-  [[Image:TheDentist.jpg|19px]] 23:10, 5 January 2009 (EST)

xeat
needs to reupload your own VoS and add redirect. -- -Ch ao  s-   16:08, 22 January 2009 (EST)

sig
too big, you can't use font size tags that go over the normal font. Make the letters smaller. 17:37, 22 January 2009 (EST)
 * ur sig is too big fgt 19:07, 24 January 2009 (EST)
 * how... do i make smaller? &rarr;<Big style="font-variant:big-caps;font-family:Mufferaw;6px"> BERKS <small style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Verdana;6px;"> di...   di... [[Image:Vow of Silence Sig.jpg|19px]] 19:08, 24 January 2009 (EST)
 * By not using BIG tags? Looks fine to me though in relation to other text. - [[Image:Panic_sig7.gif‎]] 19:10, 24 January 2009 (EST)
 * nvm... &rarr;<font size=3 style="font-variant:big-caps;font-family:Mufferaw;6px"> BERKS <font size=1 style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Verdana;6px;">deedle...   dum... |undefined 19:56, 24 January 2009 (EST)

I dont think you actually know how putrid this build is. has pathetic damage, and the chain is counter-productive. doesn't "provide defense" as you said, it simply can protect itself from 1 attack skill.-- Ikimono <font color ="Teal">Needs more Paragon 23:12, 31 January 2009 (EST)

thank you for seeing wha ti'm trying to convey -- Zealous010 22:40, 9 February 2009 (EST)

don't
vote on running builds if you suck at running. -- -Ch ao s-   17:32, 15 February 2009 (EST)


 * .. Don't discuss on noticeboard, bring the discussion here. If the /A is a generic build, why is it rated so low? Tell me, how the heck do I improve that build? Is Escape bad? --Dandybot 19:47, 15 February 2009 (EST)
 * Either way, your vote is outdated now. Please update it. -- &mdash;The preceding trolling attempt was made by Chaos (talk) . 09:58, 17 February 2009 (EST)

fresshhy
hai thar. want to b mi wiki friend? *Un*ɖɩđđɭɘş —ɱƈ^Ŗęąḻ^ḻƴƿʃooƿʂ     touch my red link! 21:41, 16 February 2009 (EST)
 * Unreal stalker/Unreal Illusionist. i wont be on ttill fridai so yu can talk tu mi on here. *Un*ɖɩđđɭɘş  —ɱƈ^Ŗęąḻ^ḻƴƿʃooƿʂ   [[image:UNREALs_heart_.gif‎ ‎|20px]]  touch my red link!  12:10, 17 February 2009 (EST)

Your signature
Must not have  tags or its equivalents as per PvX:SIGN. Please change it accordingly. ~ <tt style="text-decoration:overline;letter-spacing:1px"><font color="#444">ĐONT <font color="#444">* <font color="#444">SYSOP </tt> 14:50, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I cant edit anything. &rarr;<font size=3 style="font-variant:big-caps;font-family:Mufferaw;6px"> BERKS <font size=1 style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Verdana;6px;">deedle...   dum... |undefined 00:33, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * nvm lol &rarr;<font size=3 style="font-variant:big-caps;font-family:Mufferaw;6px"> BERKS <font size=1 style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Verdana;6px;">deedle...   dum... |undefined 00:34, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Ok, get your head screwed on straight for this.

 * The fastest E/Me builds I've seen run raptors in a little under 2 minutes average time, killing the boss and around 30 hatchlings. (I've watched quite a few people running these builds)
 * The Archive:A/E Perma Sliver Farmer build manages to accomplish the same run at just over 2 minutes time, killing the boss and around 30 hatchlings. (I've watched a bunch of people running these, and ran them myself for a long time)
 * This build clears the entire cave of all 33 hatchlings + boss in about a minute and a half. Every time I take leechers, they always tell me I'm the fastest they've seen.  Oh my god, do you think a couple thousand people might be right??

Yes, this build is complicated due to the timing involved. Yes, this build does take a good chunk of energy to run. No, you don't need additional energy management nor do you need that urn. If you set up your equipment properly (for the energy requirement) and put in a little practice, it's not arcane wizardry anymore. ''You go in with shadow form on and gather up the aggro into one big ball. Then you kill the boss and you cast radiation field and viper's defense and sit around waiting for all the little raptors to die.'' A deceptively simple description for a semi-complicated act of timing.

Out of over 300 people I've met in Guildwars, all running A/E and had all the required skills this build requires whom I have given this build to, only 5 of them managed to actually run the build within 3 tries. Every single one of them were very impressed by how fast and effective it was while watching me run the build. So yes, the build is hard to use without a good bit of practice.

If you want a demonstration, leave me a message in my talk page or find me online. I've done the run a couple thousand times, a few more won't hurt me one bit. Better yet, get off your butts and try the build, following the instructions as closely as you can. Afterwards, you may be qualified, as having experienced the build yourself, to actually place a rating on it. ''Who knows ... you might even like it.'' Skie M 08:34, 22 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I run a different but faster version of your build. I perma alot. &rarr;<font size=3 style="font-variant:big-caps;font-family:Mufferaw;6px"> BERKS <font size=1 style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Verdana;6px;">deedle...   dum... |undefined 13:09, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Perma farming builds are unique are difficult to use mirite? 128.255.216.144 21:01, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Uw farm
I saw that you watch the underworld farm W/D Hundert Blade video which I made some day ago, I made a new build. If you intrested have a look on the buildpage: http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:W/E_UW_Solo_DSway. I will make a video of it later. 145.53.242.142 20:09, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Toma won't spawn
I had this trouble to start off with, it's because you need to complete the quest Undead Defenders from Elder Jonah, it's an annoying bug.<font color="SaddleBrown">The Liger  <font color="Darkgoldenrod">talk  08:50, 2 April 2009 (UTC) 07:18, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok thx bud! :D &rarr;<font size=3 style="font-variant:big-caps;font-family:Mufferaw;6px"> BERKS <font size=1 style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Verdana;6px;">deedle...   dum... |undefined 11:21, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

VS RoJ Farm edit
Now, why would you go and revert all the changes I made before taking the time to review and test them? This just doesnt make much sense to me. It is highly superior to what was there. Not to mention the BiP which had not a single skill. Masochism is dangerous. Why use it? Btw, I am the original creator or the perma run. I was the one who figured out you could even run it. I used to run it with hero nukers, then I went off to school, passed the build out and people changed it to cryway. Now RoJ/cry.. but the ranger and bip builds are completely useless. Lively was naomei has since been nerfed, etc..

On top of it, you're using my perma build, except instead of IaU, i invented the run with Heart of Shadow.
 * u didnt make the perma! it was obvious haha :P ANYWAY
 * u can change back, just dont change a vetted build before u review it with the society, go on the talk page and suggest things, sorry tho. &rarr;<font size=3 style="font-variant:big-caps;font-family:Mufferaw;6px"> BERKS <font size=1 style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Verdana;6px;">deedle...   dum... |undefined 01:03, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Ofcourse I didn't invent permasin, but I invented the run to the chest and pull to wall. I only realized this after i noticed spirits of disenchant can't hit you with a run stance active. I am the original creator of the run, not the build. This was after Ursan was nerfed and everyone just sat in grotto QQ'ing trying to find new ursan workarounds.

I am sorry I didn't understand the rules, but It didn't seem to me like any harm was being done since the FS and BiP builds were completely useless and outdated.

I do not know where to discuss the changes. If you would be so kind as to point me in the right direction. Thanks, and sorry.

Ah, in addition to the Naomei nerf, gaze of fury also has a nasty bug if 2 spirits are placed on top of eachother and is inferior to Rupture Soul.


 * its fine you just need to go into the build and choose discussion and put anew section for the change, and then wait for the public to reply. ok! prolly should make an account so people can notice you. :] &rarr;<font size=3 style="font-variant:big-caps;font-family:Mufferaw;6px"> BERKS <font size=1 style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Verdana;6px;">deedle...   dum... |undefined 01:13, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the re-edit. Would have taken me ages :).  I'm doing some further testing on the BiP and I'll add some additional comments pertaining to the use of each class.  Any further changes I'll make sure to post to the discussion thread first.  I've also found EVaS to be a bit of a pain as it provokes agro occassionaly and doesn't really do any damage to Thommis due to his high armor and health.  Maybe an additional hex.  Still deciding on a final BiP build as well, but that seems to work really well.  I know some people use N/P for chants, but that's pretty useless IMO.  My teams have never had energy problems, since I've asked each one of them.  Once again, thanks for all your help. :) Gesun Dheit 05:20, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. I just created an account and will be making some contributions shortly. Now if I could only figure out how to add a tag to the end of my comments. Here is the big test ;p
 * You sign with 4 tildes ( ~ ). Also, please indent your comments with colons. Add one more than the person who contributed before you.  Life [[Image:WikiLOD7.gif]] 01:48, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I just figured that out. Fail big time :D Gesun Dheit 01:51, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

how
you know nukie baba was me?--Relyk 03:14, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * friend list?--Relyk 03:15, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually your registered name for HB was Shadow Relyk :P I found it ironic hehe ^^ &rarr;<font size=3 style="font-variant:big-caps;font-family:Mufferaw;6px"> BERKS <font size=1 style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Verdana;6px;">deedle...   dum... |undefined 11:28, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Hmmmmm
[http://pvx.wikia.com/index.php?title=Build:A/D_Silent_Assassin&action=rate Just which build are you refering to? I'd like to know.] DarkMugen 23:50, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * The any/D generic runner build was deleted sometime ago. otherwise its just Build:D/A Outpost Runner with an A/D.--Relyk 23:58, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * That's what i figured he was refering to. But, either way, it doesn't matter, its a different build with different tactics. | -- Dark Mugen 01:39, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * nope--Relyk 02:23, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * I can use one word to answer you to. yep. | -- DarkMugen 11:56, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * Its a different build. thats all there is to it. | -- DarkMugen 11:56, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * Besides, the "vetted" build he was refering to is deleted, so my build is valid and not inferior. Good day to you sir | -- DarkMugen 11:57, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok let me say it this way. your putting a build on an Assassin when it works 100x times better on a dervish... practically the same build as this and if ANYONE still runs droks they are gonna use there Derv over this... come one! This build is far inferior to any already vetted droks runners. -- jjberks 13:59, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * I run droks for money when im bored. I still see assassins, warriors, even saw a ranger yesterday. Some people do it for the challenge, or because they simply prefer a certain proffession. 100x? thats one hell of an exaggeration. btw, u misspelled "on". Its not inferior at all. Sorry. and lots of people still run droks lol. i do, and so do others. So, can you just admit you are wrong? | -- DarkMugen 15:46, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * No one cares if he was exaggarating or if he wrote something wrong. -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 14:08, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Even though Mugen is amazingly retarded, I think the build can have a place here. -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 14:17, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, Mugen how can I explain this to get it throught your thick skull, ok it's like running a W/E Shock Axe but on a E/W. It's retarded and less effective. Do you understand my point? --jjberks 17:36, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * Bad argument, don't compare to PvP builds where you can freely reroll. The only thing that Dervish has is mysticism, and the spec doesn't even really matter much. It's a solid sin runner, lol. You support a R/D but not an A/D? -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 18:47, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * R/D has block and expertise... W/D has Armor and health... A/D has....? --jjberks 19:03, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * 14 shadow arts :> <span style="border-right:dotted 2px #AAAAAA;border-left:dotted 2px #AAAAAA;font-family:serif;font-size:8pt;"> Thomas   So   Dutch  19:06, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * Learn to play. Your arguments are just survivability, when none gives a crap about that. Lol Dark Escape + no snares. -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 19:10, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * lp dum nobler -- <font color="Black">Drah 19:17, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * PVE PVE PVE PVE PVE PVE PVE
 * Thank you Chaos. Here is my perspective on this. A) D/A is easier. B) D/A is lolworthyboring. C) A/D gives the following: Challenge, Fun, and an awesome running stance ^.^ and that is why i run A/D. because its harder. | -- DarkMugen 01:25, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * imo it does no harm putting it in the pve running section. if some kids wanna have fun and run it then just have the build there for whatevers sake. its different in pvp where bars matter. Gringo 05:57, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

This is why PVE is so messed up here... D/A is lolworthyboring? its faster and safer than A/D... this doesnt deserve a spot here. →<font size=3 style="font-variant:big-caps;font-family:Mufferaw;6px"> BERKS <font size=1 style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Verdana;6px;">deedle...   dum... |undefined 20:57, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * OHHH and Gringo just said no one cares bout Pve... which shows me how bad PVE is here. &rarr;<font size=3 style="font-variant:big-caps;font-family:Mufferaw;6px"> BERKS <font size=1 style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Verdana;6px;">deedle...   dum... |undefined 21:01, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Thats WHY I SAID IT. It's too easy, i want something that takes more skill. Its so easy for me now that its become so BORING its LOLWORTHY. | -- DarkMugen 23:13, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * The build I posted on your build's page imo is better &rarr;<font size=3 style="font-variant:big-caps;font-family:Mufferaw;6px"> BERKS <font size=1 style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Verdana;6px;">deedle...   dum... |undefined 23:16, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * It uses Shadow Form, how could that be better? That's like mashing Shadow Form on a R/A instead of bringing VoS. Or, even better, a W/A. I've ran on both professions with both SF and VoS, and lol.
 * Please present valid arguments.- -Chaos- (talk) -- 17:45, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * And yeah owell, Shadow Form can be fast if you have no downtimes, but minor disruption :> -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 17:47, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Wasn't there a /D build that covered all the things you could take and such? --<font color="Black">Frosty  18:08, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * There was. Its gone now. I'll make a new one | -- DarkMugen 18:31, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * There are a LOT of options. The only two skills that are required are VoS and IAU. the rest are pretty much optional. (speed boosts and such) | -- DarkMugen 18:54, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Me and Lau kaboomed it because she was so sick of looking at it :> -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 20:42, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Kaboom lol. just got a Billy Mays commercial Flashback. Also Chaos. This is for you. | -- DarkMugen 23:44, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * He's addresses Frosty not you Mugen, hence being indented to Frosty. I'd make a guide for /d runner chaos, athrun wont be able to stare at the guide section--Relyk 00:23, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * I thought of running a running guide, but I got annoyed at the idea. And btw, the Any/D runner might just be archived ;o -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 10:53, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * Archive:Any/D Generic Forge Runner I swear i checked the archives, must've missed it. that build is ugly though cause you have specific skills for each profession to replace main bar skills--Relyk 23:13, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * /agree | -- DarkMugen 02:52, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Archive:Any/W Hundred Blades Vaettir Farmer
No loot sharing because you leave radar range of the hero. --- <font color="Blue"> Ressmonkey  (talk) 04:09, November 6, 2009 (UTC)