User talk:Malokai92/rage

I'd say that Last Day Dawns HM deserves a place on this list... - they give you a lvl 30 npc to protect, and no matter what you throw at the charr they outnumber you and spark of titans = lol mantra of concentration savannah heat nuke. Also my pve nub friend did 4H without splitting party.. just setup spirits after clearing out wailing lord, rush to other side and clear it and rush back.. -- Chieftain   Alex  13:24, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Last Day Dawns HM is pretty easy when you start from Yak's Bend and just take the back route to clear 4 of the 5 spawns. Defeating the final one is a piece of cake. Vorpal [[Image:Vorpal_Signature_1.jpg|19px]] 14:11, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I've always found Unwanted Guests to be more irritating than the 4H, seeing as for 4H, you just flag your heroes to one of the spawning locations, take the quest, by the time you get there the 2 horsemen will be dead and you just move over to the other side. Kracatoan 14:34, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

4 horseman → 1st, it is mandatory that u equip dual fall back; 2nd, no minion based heroes, ull need a st rit with shelter to shield ur party efficiently, minions all they do is screw shelter, promote bad hero AI, and anyway the planes are filled with mblades and lords and dreamers, none of them fleshy, so even if u had minions at the time of arrival to the area they would all wipe, so ull never get a way to meatshield ur party here; get the quest, imediatelly run to one of the sides they spawn, set up wall of ghosts, bring a snare to keep them in place, kill a few spiders very quickly (u need to be all dmg, btw, and a lot of dmg), kill at least one rider and imediatelly run back to reaper; if u time it proper, ull be arriving at the reaper when the other group gets there too, (hence the need for DUAL fall back);once there, use flag/unflag tactics to avoid meteors, dont flag them too far from reaper or he'll wipe, fight and kill in a frenzied manner, and if u do it right, after a while and with some of the spiders and riders dead, the rest of the fight will become progressively easier; what i do is to wipe the intire planes first, to have more room, so to speak, before taking quest; in normal mode the quest is somewhat feasible in an easy way once u master the meteor dodging and dual fall back running; my suggestion to combat grief: do the first 3 quests (chamber, new souls and wrathfull spirits), talk to the reaper after wrathfull and ask him to send u back to labirint; at this point u have prolly gotten a ecto or two, these quests are very easy and quick to do, so once ur back to the lab, head to the 4 horse quest; if u fail, the advantadges are that uve prolly already gotten a ecto or two, the time spent there is minimal and the shorter the time wasted, the lesser the grief...consider it a half uw run to farm, or watever; u can also visit guru and hop on efgjacks page, i think there is some video there for this quest... On a side note, what u equip ur heros with? Mine all have defense sets (shield + spear of def), plus armor signias on all pieces, the only ones overruling this are the kaolai holders, but these will get armor anyway; i get average of 83 armor for casters (80 for kaolais) and my st has 88 armor all time (shaman signias), top all that with stand ur ground, and ull get ~ 107 armor... and this set up can be used in this quest, no need for SY here... if ure doing 3rd room in foundry, i dont advise spears however, that will screw balling, coz spears have shorter range than wands and heroes tend to auto a lot, so they'll get closer to the ragers and wipe; as for the ST rit i talked about at beginning, i use offensive st with shelter, but i guess u can use the version u have from efg jack (the one with binding chains), that one will help a lot with that snare, but u need be a savvy “microer”; to get def spears, farm lower areas of elona in hard mode, thats what i did to get all my q8 shields and spears, all drops here, even blues, are upgradable. Hope this helps, i know i had my griefs with thulsa doom... I guess im not Conan! --  Geist tha burdill  Enormous 14:40, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Just flag one rit hero, preferably your SoS one, to the left side to stall that group. You, together with all the other heroes, have to quickly clear the right side and run back to the reaper, you should be able to make it just in time. Note that I usually play ER so I can just prot bond the reaper and laugh my ass off, if you're not so fortunate to have an ER you can simply use an Essence if you still have problems. @Enormous: Armor insigias on rits is retarded because they won't get hit most of the time. I dislike defensive sets, because 40/40 is usually to damn good to ignore. Anyway, 4h doesn't come close to number 1 in my book, Foundry of Failed creations and that retarded monkey Mallyx are the most difficult things imo, and Minister Cho's Estate because it's badly designed and frigging annoying. Vorpal [[Image:Vorpal_Signature_1.jpg|19px]] 19:02, 26 August 2011 (UTC)


 * i prefer by large to have def sets, specially because i totally dont play with minions, and armor is a granted benefit, not a casual one, plus 40/40 set on rits for what? the st is all about spirits, no spells other than boon, and the sos has spirits and quick recharge spells with 1 sec cast or less... not gonna do much really... i will have holidays from the 5th of september, maybe ill give a try on that quest in hard mode...  Geist tha burdill  Enormous 19:41, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I run 40/40 sets on my mesmers, sos rit, restos and smite monks, they just get the most out of their builds with a 40/40 set. Concerning the sos rit; sos, bloodsong, and PwK all have long recharge times. Since energy ain't a problem, and it's usually a resto hybrid anyway, a 40/40 set is the best set imo. Moar heal spam, splinter and AC also helps. I use a staff of enchanting for my minion bomber and ST rit. I usually prefer survivor insignias to offset rune costs and AI targeting, but I guess it's debatable since prots are all about percentages anyway. =) Vorpal [[Image:Vorpal_Signature_1.jpg|19px]] 20:43, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Sos, bloodsong and bind rits get benefit from hc/hr?? thats what i meant... also, u play er, ull have better defense than me with heroes doing that, u have minion wall, i never play with it, kaolai holders get no benefit from hc/hr, and i play with 2, mesmers have reduced cast/rech already, 40/40 set would help my roj, but other than that, no palpable benefit really... anyway, different play styles altogether, but i know where ure going, ur er will benefit a lot more with 40 sets than armor... my equip allows for free roaming and totallly lazy play whenever i want, plus dmg mitigation is the way to go about elite pve, also, i get to discard sy, its a pain in the ass and i cant play a proper ap assassin with sy (i love ap sin, i allways play ap if im lazy)... its really a matter of preference, the majority of the times  Geist tha burdill  Enormous 21:18, 26 August 2011 (UTC)


 * 4H is a quest I refuse to attempt anymore, I fuck up the timing every time. I know going in I'm going to fuck it up. It's 20 minutes wasted walking there. You can't relay that feeling at any other place. Also survivor insignias on all heroes ftw.-- Relyk 06:38, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Tormentor's on necro heroes, Survivor on the rest. Also Relyk; is that the Barbed Trap/Muddy Terrain method, you're using? Minion Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg 07:51, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Well I would just use "SYG!" or "SY!" if you really want additional armor, and put survivor on everything, I believe you have the best damage mitigation this way. Spears on heroes fuckes up Splinter Weapon imo. But I guess with your playstyle which involves not using both minions and SY!, and playing AP sin it makes sense =) @Relyk: you need help? Vorpal [[Image:Vorpal_Signature_1.jpg|19px]] 10:59, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * UW leaves a bad taste in my mouth, I don't find it fun to clear like doa or urgoz. @excluded, it's the "put up spirits on one side and kill everything on the other hoping you run back in time" method. I've cleared UW for HoM once, I just want to bitch about heroway.-- Relyk 11:23, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

4 Horsemen
Me and tab did it fairly easily with basic h/h and just our general pve build (which basically means whatever we felt like at the time, no coordination) unless something has changed about it recently, don't see what the fuss is about. Whole of UW is an easy clear with the quests... Rawr 10:17, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * When was that? Falrach 15:18, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Quite a while ago, like a year and a half or 2 years. Rawr 15:51, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Tracking the Corruption
small guide here is quite helpful. also lol perma with visage. (and lol at german kid who used hero to perma tank the mobs and micro visages :o ) -- Chieftain   Alex  00:37, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * people are such wimps with that quest. I survived on a single copy of soa and panic. All it takes is vigorous flag spamming and aggroing 3 groups at a time instead of 4.-- Relyk 02:08, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

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A good writer Smity Smitington 06:31, 9 October 2011 (UTC)