User talk:Shadow12776/HA Squad

Hell Yeah
Nice page dude,lets get it started!:D Triss 15:26, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

IMPORTANT
According to the discussion, we have agreed to do the new hexway for a starters because of the nice flux. Any temporary changes to the build for the flux can be named here Shadow  Computer coded  17:00, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Necro
Is it taken already??? Chonsy Rulez
 * It has been taken unfortunately Shadow  Computer coded  20:42, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

WOW guys, you are truely awesome :O
One day and it is settled. Now a date we are all online Shadow  Computer coded  21:31, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Fuuuuck
One day offline and I am out of squad -.-. I WANT DD -.- Triss 07:00, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Make it clear Shadow,am I in,or am I out?Triss 15:35, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * in, for now :P Shadow  Computer coded  15:40, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Triss 16:04, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Pick a date and time
I don't want to have to keep looking back here to see if shit is getting done.  RąʂKɭɘş ♣  14/f/japan  07:06, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, this friday 14:00 GMT-7, 21:00 GMT, 22:00 GMT+1 Shadow  Computer coded  14:31, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Sry guys,can't do it on 8th nor 9th. I will be online on 10th,Friday. Triss 14:43, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Build
Pref. running either a meta team, or something that I have a say about regarding bars. This has some kind of burning theme, with little reason for it, since it doesn't stack, IA is a subpar elite compared to all the nice shit you can have, the ele bar is gimped (no SH, Rodgort's), only sustained damage output is Immolate, with too much focus on resto, and imho the Migraine bar is gimped too. -- DANDY ^_^ -- 20:08, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Why the hell you did not said that while this build was in trial?Triss 20:11, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Like, somewhere on PvX? I don't stalk everything. -- DANDY ^_^ -- 20:55, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Like on main page under untested trial?... Triss 20:59, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * My bookmark goes straight to my watchlist. I only use the mainpage to navigate myself to build categories :> I never follow the featured builds. -- DANDY ^_^ -- 22:59, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Dandy, you may look again in these sections (User or User talk I do not remember). It has been said you may change the build if you'd like while discussing it of course Shadow  Computer coded  21:11, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not gonna go making changes myself, but I'd take Mel's/Magebane over IA, Drain on the Panic over Wastrel's, fix Rodgort's and SH over Life and PwK on the DD, then maybe take a SoS necro over the Migraine mes. -- DANDY ^_^ -- 22:59, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Also, lol. -- DANDY ^_^ -- 23:48, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Triple necro hexway? Gay. I prefer this one with migrain. Triss 14:45, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The one atm on the page isn't very good tho, panic kinda sucks except on altars and migraine is meh unless you have 2 of them Rawr 15:05, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Suggest perhaps? Shadow  Computer coded  15:18, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Depends what you wanna go for, with hexways you want to play off a certain tactic, ie you take migraine when you want their backline to not get skills off so would run 2 mig and a nec and maybe war/2 ele, or if you wanna go for degen/not healing pressure then you go LC with tox chills and disease and dom mesmers etc... The one at the moment just seems to try and do too much, whole reason hexway works is because it way overplays a certain playstyle (if you get me) as well as lolhexes Rawr 15:21, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Seen it in HoH with Dual Migraine. I suggest changing panic for second migraine. Also if DD won't achieve our goals,let's try toxic chill or SoS blood Triss 15:47, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Plus you want way more rupts on the migraines bars Rawr 15:49, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Ehh shit. Too much issues about this build. Bars need complete changing as I can see from discussion and better we do this before friday. So sum up: migraine with more rupts pls x 2. Then,we have no antimelee. We have to suit somewhere antimelee like hmm migraine + res + 4 rupts? + antimelee skill like soothing images/empathy. Triss 15:54, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * You got gw teambuilder? Rawr 15:57, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * For migraine something like this? Rawr 17:06, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Headline!
Rawr made a big modification, changing two builds that much I removed those who applied for them: Triss and my guildie. My guildie's place will be open too, so Triss has a choice and I'd like to ask Rawr to play <font color="black" face="LCD">Shadow  <font color="darkred" face="LCD">Computer coded  18:31, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

In regards to the weekend
I'm going to assume that since this is HA weekend you all will be running something and I was hoping that I would be able to get involved. I have heroes ascent experience, but I'm pretty rusty as it has been mostly dead and I'm not high enough to get into ranked groups :P. If not, or if you already have a good amount of people, could someone point me to where I could find halfway decent players that aren't PuGs?-- Ultimak719 LIKE A BOSS!  01:17, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Anyone may join <font color="black" face="script ms bold">Shadow  <font color="darkblue" face="script ms bold">Chivalry  07:25, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Join [TC] and hop on PvX's crazy train, really. We're always short of players, and even though player skill is nice, it's good if you just do what you're told, and even better if you know what to do without being told to. -- DANDY ^_^ -- 16:09, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Contact anyone on GW :P, we are all officers <font color="black" face="script ms bold">Shadow  <font color="darkblue" face="script ms bold">Chivalry  16:11, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Even me :D! IGN: Ariskrae Vemino -- GWPirate 关 16:15, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * depends on cape for me. whats the symbol. and what are the primary and secondary colors ;o lol.  Akio _Ka  t  suragi   Akio_Katsuragi_Sig2.jpg 08:34, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * changes every 2-5 days xd <font color="black" face="Rockwell">Shadow  <font color="red" face="Rockwell">[TC] HA Squad  08:47, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * HA at 10 in the morning is crap for me.  RąʂKɭɘş ♣  14/f/japan  09:42, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Ill try to get you involved as often as possible. By doing it later or way earlier. Btw, I am not the only one in [TC] that may start HA or something like that <font color="black" face="Rockwell">Shadow  <font color="red" face="Rockwell">[TC] HA Squad  12:26, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

New build to run:
Suggestions (even your own creations in your sandbox) <font color="black" face="script ms bold">Shadow  <font color="darkblue" face="script ms bold">Chivalry  18:39, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Suggestion 1: Build:Team - HA Invoke Spike <font color="black" face="Rockwell">Shadow  <font color="red" face="Rockwell">[TC] HA Squad  08:04, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * We might as well try a balanced team although the flux might not like that.-- Ultimak719 LIKE A BOSS!  11:41, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Might do <font color="black" face="Rockwell">Shadow  <font color="red" face="Rockwell">[TC] HA Squad  12:26, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Dont stand a chance at bala in this meta especially without loads of exp and having played in same team for a while, i think most the bala teams have even stopped playing because powercreep has gotten that far... Rawr 15:07, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * True story <font color="black" face="Rockwell">Shadow  <font color="red" face="Rockwell">[TC] HA Squad  15:14, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Suggestion 2: Run 5 Derv team with mes and backline. People would just type "gwpvxw.com" and look at "HA meta" or observs. Just counter dual ele meta by 5 derv pressure and rushing them. 3 AoB, 1 EDA(backlining), 1 Lyssa(rupt signets,pressure monks) and pretty win win win :). I can play EDA/AoB. Will have great mesmer for it(rupting patient spirit and other 1/4 sec stuff). Triss 19:13, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Triss, get your guild ready for HA/GvG, we are constantly doing it <font color="black" face="Rockwell">Shadow  <font color="red" face="Rockwell">[TC] HA Squad  19:18, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * It will take some time,remember that they were previously PvErs and know little to nothing about pvp world. Except the Nati,our mesmer. She's pretty awesome. Triss 19:22, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Run GvG, its the zc now. HA weekend coming too. We can do a scrim too to test eachother out <font color="black" face="Rockwell">Shadow  <font color="red" face="Rockwell">[TC] HA Squad  19:23, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * U don't understand me. I need to teach them basics like how to load adrenaline to not start timer in zaishen or cancelling frenzy while spiked. However,they should do 5 derv pretty well Triss 19:25, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Start teaching! XD <font color="black" face="Rockwell">Shadow  <font color="red" face="Rockwell">[TC] HA Squad  19:27, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah. And you guys please start working about energy management :). No energy at first 5 minutes of the match is pretty bad for monks :). Even Rask told me that he can do it xD.Triss 19:28, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I have ~20 energy the whole match XD <font color="black" face="Rockwell">Shadow  <font color="red" face="Rockwell">[TC] HA Squad  19:29, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I heard on teamspeak... " No energy,kill that mesmer" "omg rc diverted". But the most hillarious thing was when we were pushing flag with Odda on rit. We wanted to come back and what do I see? Prot and warrior split. PROT AND WARRIOR. WHILE BASE IS UNDER ATTACK. And prot stayed like 2 mins on their backline,fucking miracle they didn't kill him. Triss 19:31, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

(RE) Wasn't me, was pirate <font color="black" face="Rockwell">Shadow  <font color="red" face="Rockwell">[TC] HA Squad  19:32, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Yup,with Dandy if I remember good. Triss 19:34, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Now I am running prot with ~20 energy constant <font color="black" face="Rockwell">Shadow  <font color="red" face="Rockwell">[TC] HA Squad  19:35, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * How's your field vision?Triss 19:36, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I can see the future <font color="black" face="Rockwell">Shadow  <font color="red" face="Rockwell">[TC] HA Squad  19:36, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I hope that it wouldn't be like I saw one prot playing with [1410]. Defending contagionway with guardian pretty sucks.. Triss 19:39, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Why the fuck would you do that! XD <font color="black" face="Rockwell">Shadow  <font color="red" face="Rockwell">[TC] HA Squad  19:40, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Ask him. I was too suprised to tell him a word... Triss 19:40, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * XD <font color="black" face="Rockwell">Shadow  <font color="red" face="Rockwell">[TC] HA Squad  19:41, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I predict some bot AI there. "If (someone get in the close area of character) then (prot character with guardian); Triss 19:43, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Hahaha, no, it was a joke more or less. I've got some vision, but I can't watch every bit of detail. That's why TS is nice <font color="black" face="Rockwell">Shadow  <font color="red" face="Rockwell">[TC] HA Squad  20:31, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Nope,they failed because of this. Triss 20:55, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

(RE) Well, we needda do some work still... <font color="black" face="Rockwell">Shadow  <font color="red" face="Rockwell">[TC] HA Squad  21:10, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't spam rc, use msn or equivalent for your dumb conversations-- Relyk 21:15, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Speaking of msn, how's that sore relyk? Trololo.  RąʂKɭɘş ♣  14/f/japan  06:01, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Run this
And I might join you, it would be the manliest spike to hit halls in about 3 years <font color="Black">Frostels 21:46, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree with trying new things. If you will take the lead, rawr, pirate, vincent, dandy, and more will follow ;) <font color="black" face="Rockwell">Shadow  <font color="red" face="Rockwell">[TC] HA Squad  21:50, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * One problem only Frosty. There is one spike every 20 seconds. <font color="black" face="Rockwell">Shadow  <font color="red" face="Rockwell">[TC] HA Squad  21:51, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Frosty, how would stolen speed work in that team?  RąʂKɭɘş ♣  14/f/japan  22:00, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Doesn't matter, if you're good enough at it its a 3 minute match. We used to run E-Blast which was 20sec recharge, you just need to spike in the right order and make sure SoC Goes up :P Rawr 22:06, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * What for? Don't get it? Rawr 22:07, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Raskles, SS won't work in PvP (read it carefully). Rawr, I made an eblast spike too, but we tried it and we needed more spikes because it is hard to rely on one spike skill <font color="black" face="Rockwell">Shadow  <font color="red" face="Rockwell">[TC] HA Squad  23:27, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Then you need a better caller dude, i got so many hall holds with it, it was one of the most OP'd things ever before they nerfed it. If they don't kill you in 3 mins they lose, as its unstoppable spike, with SoC up you can't rupt. You'll just have the tactics wrong Rawr 23:36, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I must say, when we had the spikes, they were right off and killing. We had endless energy, we didnt need to catch invoke with 800 health on XD and we had several defensive and offensive sidekick spikes <font color="black" face="Rockwell">Shadow  <font color="red" face="Rockwell">[TC] HA Squad  23:41, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * User:Shadow/Shadow's Sandbox/Training Area 1 <font color="black" face="Rockwell">Shadow  <font color="red" face="Rockwell">[TC] HA Squad  23:42, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * You need to get the order of spikes right then, 20 secs isn't very often but it is enough to wipe a team in 3 mins if you know what you're doing Rawr 00:00, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * It is, and you've got 2 extra skills that deal reasonable damage too. <font color="black" face="Rockwell">Shadow  <font color="red" face="Rockwell">[TC] HA Squad  09:20, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Archive:Team - HA Energy Blast Spike That was the eblast spike we used essentially, with a good caller (rawr so good caller) you wipe teams in 4/5 mins or they resign. Just make sure SoC goes up (aegis if you have too, snare the mes etc) and as long as it's clean you will have an almost guaranteed kill. With this it has the potential to hit multiple people too! Plus it's Feast of Corruption spike therefore it's awesome. <font color="Black">Frostels 12:25, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

"Minispike" with Desecrate! ;D -- DANDY ^_^ -- 13:08, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * hahahahahaha that would be so... pointless. <font color="Black">Frostels 14:10, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * It would <font color="black" face="Rockwell">Shadow  <font color="red" face="Rockwell">[TC] HA Squad  14:21, 20 February 2012 (UTC)