User talk:Lukejohnson/Archive Y

First. -- * Wah Wah  Wah! * 21:09, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

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&mdash;The preceding awesome-sauce comment was added by Rawr. 21:13, 8 August 2008 (EDT)


 * Don't troll. --[[Image:GoD Wario Sig.PNG]] * Wah Wah  Wah! * 21:18, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Posting a pic isn't trolling. Get defininitions plz. &mdash;The preceding awesome-sauce comment was added by Rawr. 21:20, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Constantly annoying him with unconstructive shit is. --[[Image:GoD Wario Sig.PNG]] * Wah Wah  Wah! * 21:21, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Constantly? Its on the page *once*, and never has been on the page more than once. This is guild wars related, build related and everything related. Its constructive cuz it lets other people see he sucks before they try and start some random crusade for a vote change. &mdash;The preceding awesome-sauce comment was added by Rawr. 21:22, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
 * You're acting like a complete ass. You did it in his archive previous as well. Stop. --[[Image:GoD Wario Sig.PNG]] * Wah Wah  Wah! * 21:23, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
 * More like twice *stares at his archive* 21:23, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
 * ITs not trolling. ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG]] 21:24, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Once. Its in the archive, once, and here, once. So as i said, never on this page more than once. That is not spam, that is not constant annoyance. &mdash;The preceding awesome-sauce comment was added by Rawr. 21:24, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Lulz, that way you can post it on every page and still claim it's only on this page once. 21:25, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
 * I like how you skipped my point entirely. &mdash;The preceding awesome-sauce comment was added by Rawr. 21:26, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
 * ye it tends to piss ppl off at times :3 21:27, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

The next person...
...who posts anything remotely trollish here is gonna get banned. Stop flooding RCs with idiocy, mkay? *Defiant Elements*  +talk  21:29, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

Guild Wars
Play it. Plz. - 09:14, 9 August 2008 (EDT)

Any good?


Hmm i dont like R/D in TA.. Hammers ftw. Also BRace Yourself < Purge maybe? whit BAsh and Disciplined.. and Guardian Massive   08:21, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
 * R/D is good tbh. Spam Spam Spam. And big domoges. Combined with bleeding and poison. it is very useful. Dutchess of Rose aka  lukejohnson  - talk 08:22, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Meh sword is best frontliner in TA easily. Hammer is good, but swords roll scrubs faster and they are also better at beating the better teams (Hammers neeeeed their chain to hit most hits to actually pressure, swords dont and recharge wtf fast) &mdash;The preceding awesome-sauce comment was added by Rawr. 16:56, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

"no rip enchantment hurts the build" has rip enchantment. might want to change vote.--Reason.decrystallized 08:23, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

Remember how I said you were bad?


That is all.  —ǥrɩɳsɧƴ ɖɩđđɭɘş   21:04, 10 August 2008 (EDT)


 * It's a joke build TBH. --[[Image:GoD Wario Sig.PNG]] * Wah Wah  Wah! * 21:06, 10 August 2008 (EDT)


 * [[Image:Ahahahahhahahaha.JPG]] Also, that's what everyone whose build gets epic'd says. "It was just a joke build." Whatever you have to say to help the tears to roll so you can cry yourself to sleep tonight on your cock shaped pillow.  —ǥrɩɳsɧƴ ɖɩđđɭɘş  [[Image:Grinshpon blinky cake.gif|19px]] 21:10, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
 * He was comparing Frenzy to BoA on WE Warriors. So that's not really epic...  21:18, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
 * It is, because unless you're a scrub frenzy is still better. &mdash;The preceding awesome-sauce comment was added by Rawr. 21:20, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
 * In the current RoD meta, frenzy sucks yes(4 rod's + zealous fire at your ass doesn't make you a happy war). Otherwise; your face. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  07:16, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Dirty nigger euro. &mdash;The preceding awesome-sauce comment was added by Rawr. 09:37, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
 * 2 stand monks is all anyone ever needs.  —ǥrɩɳsɧƴ ɖɩđđɭɘş  [[Image:Grinshpon blinky cake.gif|19px]] 09:56, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
 * 2 blackeneds... Ace (LVPoW)  10:24, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
 * I'm just that fucking awesome.--[[Image:Blackened_Sig.jpg|19px]]Black ened 10:27, 12 August 2008 (EDT)

FYI
If you simply don't want something on your talk, copy-paste it and move to your archives. Thus it's not breaking rules and you still get what you wanted. -- * Wah Wah  Wah! * 12:42, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Archival of discussions is allowed only if said discussion is inactive, which it isn't. The most recent reply was less than 24 hours ago which is active by any wiki ideas.  —ǥrɩɳsɧƴ ɖɩđđɭɘş  [[Image:Grinshpon blinky cake.gif|19px]] 12:49, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
 * grinch mcpiplup --<font color="Black">Tab  <font color="Black">Moo  12:50, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

Your vote does make some strong points but I do have a few things to say:
 * Empathy and Backfire are in the optionals.
 * The build isn't completely useless when VoR is down.
 * Precast veil doesn't matter. You have something called "other skills" on your bar.
 * Most builds can be easily D-Shotted.
 * Warstrel's Worry doesn't suck, people just suck as using it.
 * They should be staples and not optionals.
 * The build ISN'T completely useless. but sucks when VoR is down.
 * Pre-casting veil does hurt the build (this is true for many builds)
 * Not all builds have massive cast times
 * WW DOES SUCK! it's crap pressure and a waste of energy Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 07:37, 18 August 2008 (EDT)


 * You suck, Dutchess. WW is good with VoR: When they cast a skill, VoR procs. If they don't, WW procs (for more than VoR afaik). And you can interrupt their Spells with PDrain PLeak for added pressure. -- ›[[Image:Many srs beans.png|Srs Bean Mafia.]] <font color="#27408B">Srs Beans R Srs  11:44, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
 * no. it still sucks. there's so many ways to deal better pressure Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 08:25, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Wastrels is pretty good on a vor bar. Its an energy whore but nice domages. -- The proceeding Cute McPiplup was added by Rawr. 08:28, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
 * I'd rather spend my energy doing something more useful. --<font color="Black">Tab  <font color="Black">Moo  08:30, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
 * oh. so im not the only person who's not stupid? Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 08:31, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
 * You're still stupid, just right for once. Let me redirect your attention to this. --<font color="Black">Tab  <font color="Black">Moo  08:33, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
 * wow tab. u suck  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 08:39, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
 * hey ricky wanna pve with me? --<font color="Black">Tab  <font color="Black">Moo  08:40, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Sure. I be Warrior, okay?  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 08:40, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
 * find some pve that isnt boring then --<font color="Black">Tab  <font color="Black">Moo  08:41, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Wow tab. you have no idea in what context i said that. you just like to believe rawr. and shadowsin is it? Dutchess of Rose aka  lukejohnson  - talk 08:43, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
 * any more the frenzy rush combination dont work that much but its fairly effective. very weak against any kind of anti melee and bull strike is a costly knockdown skill --<font color="Black">Tab  <font color="Black">Moo  08:44, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
 * ^ups Dutchess of Rose aka  lukejohnson  - talk 08:52, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Hay, that's Tab vocabulary :o  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 10:18, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Sarcasm rocks <3 oh and dutch, I Know the context of the discussion that image refers to, and yes, you still are bad. ;p ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG]] 07:45, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

I'm going to try and show you my point once more. This was recently posted on the discussion board for the VoR mesmer: @ Lukejohnson - "Pre-veil on monk is win." -True but you got enchantment removal for a reason. "No empathy and/or backfire for uber domoges?" -It's shutdown, not anti melee/caster. "Easily d-shotted." -Like all other casters. "And remember on melee folk. Auto-attack is win. For casters. Wand, Only use vital spells for that 10 seconds (which isn't long), kite for melee if attacking." -It's not anti melee, sure casters can wand you for about 50 total damage. Can't always kite melee, snares and kds for example. (Pretty much) Shutting down a Monk for 10 secs seems good imo. Wastrel's Worry is not such a crap skill, pretty good cover, and it's deadly when spamming on a target with Visions of Regrets on. ~ Please consider revoting. Please reconsider your voting or delete your vote.  <font color="#264327">ℓγssάή <font color="#366634">is  <font color="#548C4F">ѕяѕ  <font color="#72A668">вѕήѕ   21:06, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

Less offending others please. ~ <font color="#444">ĐONT <font color="#444">* <font color="#444">SYSOP  08:23, 20 August 2008 (EDT)
 * it's not offending... Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 16:17, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Yes it is. ~ <font color="#444">ĐONT <font color="#444">* <font color="#444">SYSOP  17:25, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Ermmm. but it actually isn't. Dutchess of Rose aka  lukejohnson  - talk 06:43, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
 * It might not be offending for you, but it can be for others. If you think someone is wrong, tell him / her why, not that he / she "fails". ~ <font color="#444">ĐONT <font color="#444">* <font color="#444">SYSOP  12:03, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
 * PvX:NPA says it is. <font color="41 69 E1">Ace <font color ="#0099FF">(LVPoW) 12:05, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
 * it's rather obvious why they are wrong. And say someone is told many times on why they are wrogn yet continue to do it, THEN can i say s/he fails? Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 08:01, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

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Dutchess of Rose aka  lukejohnson  - talk 13:28, 12 September 2008 (EDT)
 * So no runner then? Rawrawr Dinosaur 13:29, 12 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Might be HA build? (Eventhough I don't assume it is because it doesn't have conc and MH and shit.) Brandnew.  13:31, 12 September 2008 (EDT)
 * runner is in place of either mes or ranger Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 13:34, 12 September 2008 (EDT)

how 2 improve?
[build prof=P/W ham=12 comma=8+1 lea=10+1+1][Hammer Bash][Crushing Blow][Distracting Strike]["Go for the Eyes!"]["For Great Justice!"]["Lead the Way!"][Soldier's Fury][Resurrection Signet][/build] Dutchess of Rose aka  lukejohnson  - talk 12:21, 13 September 2008 (EDT)
 * wow. jsut EC'ed myself... O.o Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 12:22, 13 September 2008 (EDT)


 * One improvement might be making a good build. If you insist on using a hammer with a Para, get Awe. Come on, Daze. Btw, FGJ and Soldier's Fury kinda fail together.. -- ›[[Image:Many srs beans.png|Srs Bean Mafia.]] <font color="#27408B">Srs Beans R Srs  06:01, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
 * 2 hits and hammer bash is recharged is bad? Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 06:02, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
 * lol...FGJ is really pointless, as you'd charge up Hammer Bash in 3 hits. I know it fuels Soldier's Fury, but you should use another shout.  Mr.  Big  06:04, 14 September 2008 (EDT)


 * LtW fuels Sold's Fury, Big. -- ›[[Image:Many srs beans.png|Srs Bean Mafia.]] <font color="#27408B">Srs Beans R Srs  06:09, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
 * this buidl is for fun btw guys. but now look at the team buidl below Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 06:15, 14 September 2008 (EDT)

YES?
Dutchess of Rose aka  lukejohnson  - talk 06:00, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I'd probably take a taint instead of the earth elly and give my warrior DPS. Brandnew.  06:17, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
 * stick in a random taint? good job there ^o). And why does the warrior need DPS? notice the rest of the builds? Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 06:19, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Taints are never random, they are always awesome. and you use death pact to res up your monks? >.> Brandnew.  06:20, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Assuming this is an HA build?
 * ofc it is... And a taint would eb random in this. and btw, unsteady ground is good Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 06:25, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
 * taint is always awesome because it provides a partywide -3 health degen which is awesome. God  box    06:26, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I never said it isn't good, but tbh, this has enough AoE to not need one, and there is no space. it;s not in EVERY team build u know Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 06:30, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
 * more aoe>aoe. God  box    06:30, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
 * lol. you ain't going to be getting any more AoE. and 2 sh IS GOOD, AND UNSTEADY GROUND IS GOOD OFFENSIVE,DEFENCE character who can spiek assist... Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 06:32, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
 * meh take a snarer instead. God  box    06:33, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
 * then the character slot is optional, but i prefer grasping and WaF as snares Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 06:34, 14 September 2008 (EDT)

This build owned (Y) Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 14:11, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Does Crippling Anthem effect all 3 arrows from Incediary? -- Frosty [[Image:SnowmanF.jpg|19px]] 14:18, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
 * i wasn't sure. tbh. :) its theorycraft, it says next attack "skill" though, not jsut attack. so i presuem so :/ Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 17:05, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
 * it doesn't CA only effects on arrow (misery said so), I thought you found mega synergy, anyway, I think the CA Para is a bit random but the rest seems pretty decent. -- Frosty [[Image:SnowmanF.jpg|19px]] 17:10, 14 September 2008 (EDT)

Writing Build Articles
Please make a full write up. Putting only the build and the usage is basically half a build, which equals a stub. It's also really quite annoying. Just click the Signet of Capture on the toolbar. -- <small style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Verdana;border-style:solid;border-width:2px;border-color:red;background-color:gold;padding:0px 5px 1px 6px;"> Guild  of   Deals   07:19, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
 * just to follow up on that, any build that's found with only the skills and atts. (or bare minimum should I say), will have a clean up tag put on, and sent back to stubs. <font color="#4F94CD">PheNaxKian <font color="#483D8B">Sysop   07:21, 14 September 2008 (EDT)

sig
Not to be offensive, but your sign looks pretty weird with all those words bunched together. You could do something like

Dutchess  of   Rose  - Luke Johnson

which looks like

Dutchess  of   Rose  - Luke Johnson

where its just on the side. Plus, I added it so each word links to your user, talk, or contributions. You might even want to upload a picture of a rose or something to put in front. This is just a suggestion so you can ignore this completely if you wish. <font color="Darkblue">VictoryisSrs (<font color="Darkblue">talk /<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 13:43, 15 September 2008 (EDT)

GG
Is win Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 12:11, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * euro senses tingling. That has no synergy lol Rawrawr Dinosaur 12:14, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * lol. it does. anti-melee. nti-caster. s Big spike. yes it's euro. but it's win Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 12:16, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * lol how is that synergy? You want magehunters in spike builds (or ES just cuz its like pewpewpepwpewpew in HA) and bhaze is also.... a weird choice. Uses some pressure bars but has like no overall pressure, power block is also bad compared to PD in a spike build. Has no anti block and a single ench remove. Rawrawr Dinosaur 12:18, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * ^ -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 12:20, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * ^ frosty. u can't play. shut up. Lol rawr, the reason i took dev's was for more domoge, and beguiling was for a quik recharging shadow step and incapitates a monk (if they're good) whilst the dev deals with the other healer. But that's my thought on it Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 12:25, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Meh dev doesnt do more damage unless you take heavy blow, but i think hammer bash would be better considering adren might not be charged when they spike (if your sin spikes like every 8 seconds). Then you may as well take mage. Rawrawr Dinosaur 12:28, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * rawr>dutch in HA, end of discussion tbh. God  box    12:32, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * errr... godliest. wtf you on? who ever said i was better? I could swear i was discussing the build... And yeah rawr, in my TB i changed it to magehunters. But the bild should have strong spiking abilites and shutdown along with defence methinks. who cares about synergy? it shoudl work :) Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 12:34, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

Then try it. - <B>Jax010</B> // healingp=0 19:10, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * jax. shut up. i'm now going to ban you from my userpage -_- Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 12:06, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Lol, that's a bad build dude. And you rate others stuff low.  lrn2synergize.  And take suggestions from players that > you.  Like Rawr.  And Godliest.  Mr.   Big  01:58, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

Brandnew. 02:55, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Offensive Earth Magic
 * No PD (Which is pure awesomeness in HA.)
 * No rend on a spike build.
 * I'd rather take a MGS or Earth Shaker in HA.
 * well you people are bad. I'm not exactly going to re-port the build with the changes am i... Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 05:11, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

Warning
I'm giving you a warning. Stop NPAing, and start writing up your build articles. An another note, everyone stop insulting Luke as well, if you feel he's done something wrong, do so without the NPA's. <font color="#4F94CD">PheNaxKian <font color="#483D8B">Sysop   06:34, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * explain NPA without making me read a crappy policy Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 06:40, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * don't insult people, play nice. <font color="#4F94CD">PheNaxKian <font color="#483D8B">Sysop   06:42, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * meh. insults are a part of everyday life. I don't see why it has to apply to this website, it's not as though it's going to hurt someone's feelings... Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 06:43, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * just because they're apart of everyday life doesn't make it ok. And why should this site be exempt? <font color="#4F94CD">PheNaxKian <font color="#483D8B">Sysop   06:45, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * ... IT SHOULDN'T BE exempt from what happens in everyday life, which is my point Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 06:46, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * He's saying to stop insulting everyone who comments on the random stuff you post on this site. It's called constructive criticism.  If you can't take it, then you shouldn't be contributing to this to begin with.  Mr.   Big  06:48, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * err no. If you can't take an insult, then learn to deal with life Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 06:50, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Insults aren't part of everyday life unless you act like a dick to everybody. -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 06:52, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Come back when you're older and not chronically retarded. You might see how life works then. <font color="#69c">—Tab <font color="#69c"> McPiplup  <font color="#69c">ツ  06:52, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * It's not a matter of "can't take an insult", by posting on this site to agree to adhere to the policies. If a policy that says that you HAVE to post "And to the above user, I love you the mostest in the world!" after every talk page post anyone posts gets vetted, you're gonna do it or leave the site. [[Image:TCsig.jpg|19px]]<SUP> TEMPEST CHIROX 06:54, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I'm 22. I'm black. I regularly make posts on this site. I've seen quite a few insulting things on here. Do I let them get to me? No. I keep posting. There's a line between being yourself and being outright childish.  You're being a big kid about everything.  If it's not done your way, there's no way at all right? You MUST be dying to prove yourself to everyone, right? I don't take any of your insults personally, to be honest. But you're violating policy by doing so. You've basically been told to follow the rules. I'm approaching you on a respectable level now. Just stop with the violations. Learn to take others opinions in grace. Don't get all hurt over someone not agreeing with you. If you do that, you're gonna grow into a very unhappy man. And we don't want that, right? :)  Mr.   Big  06:54, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * i havent finished reading what u put. BUT WHO THE FUCK cares thatyou're black? Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 06:55, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

(indent)Maybe read the words after that, then do a bit of brain work, you'd realize what he meant. <SUP> TEMPEST CHIROX 06:56, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * He's black! Get him! <small style="font-family:Verdana;font-variant: small-caps;"> — Sazzy  Pooh [[Image:PinkNautical.jpg]]06:57, 20 Sep 2008 
 * tbh, i don't care. I choose to act different on this site as I prefer not to be me. And i'm sure he's on about all the racist jokes and what not on the site, but tbh, that in itself is pathetic. Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 06:58, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Citing an example, child. Wow, you really are daft. I'll take leave of this. It's pointless.  Don't keep it up, or I'll be wishing for you to enjoy your ban.  Mr.   Big  06:58, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Do you really have to keep acting like a decent guy? It's not real life, and i don't care Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 06:59, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

what does it not being RL have to do with how we act. Words can harm, that's the reason NPA exists. Sure most people who contribute can shrug it of like it's no big deal, but there are those that do take offence to personal attacks. <font color="#4F94CD">PheNaxKian <font color="#483D8B">Sysop   07:02, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * then they need to grow up Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 07:03, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Pot, kettle, black. [[Image:TCsig.jpg|19px]]<SUP> TEMPEST CHIROX 07:03, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Just shut up already. Why must everything around you evolve into one big retarded drama. <small style="font-family:Verdana;font-variant: small-caps;"> — Sazzy  Pooh [[Image:PinkNautical.jpg]]07:04, 20 Sep 2008 
 * I'm not the one who makes the drama. it's you guys Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 07:06, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

Thanks Saz. This conversation is finished. You've been warned continue as you are you're going to get banned. <font color="#4F94CD">PheNaxKian <font color="#483D8B">Sysop   07:06, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * And what is it that i do thats wrong? Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 07:09, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Phenax said it was done. Don't poke a sleeping bear. --[[Image:GoD_Hammer_and_Sickle.jpg|19px]] <small style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Verdana;border-style:solid;border-width:2px;border-color:red;background-color:gold;padding:0px 5px 1px 6px;"> Guild  of   Deals   07:11, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * as u are now? I just want to be clear. is that a bad thing?  Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 07:12, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Let's summarize: You playing completely ignorant to surroundings, Tab getting pissed, you getting pissed thusly, both of you being WARNED. Luckily, it was only a WARNING. No offense, but taking an issue that was diffused and very close to become a big explosion of NPA and bans and then continually poking it with a stick isn't the smartest thing. --[[Image:GoD_Hammer_and_Sickle.jpg|19px]] <small style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Verdana;border-style:solid;border-width:2px;border-color:red;background-color:gold;padding:0px 5px 1px 6px;"> Guild  of   Deals   07:14, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

Shut the fuck up and follow policy Rawrawr Dinosaur 07:15, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

well
. Dutchess of Rose aka  lukejohnson  - talk 08:04, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

If you were actually invited to MENSA, sorry for ever have called you dumb tbh. Brandnew. 13:37, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * One person in 50 is elligible for MENSA tbh. <font color="#69c">—Tab <font color="#69c"> McPiplup  <font color="#69c">ツ  13:40, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * MOst are asian tbh Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 13:44, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * dutch ur an chinese gold farmer. God  box    13:48, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * who told you ? :O Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 13:59, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * no u. God  box    14:08, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

Crappier way is crap

 * You like thsi new shitty version of r-spike... with criticals! :O Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 08:59, 21 September 2008 (EDT)

So i Herd
You're the new title holder of "Worst Player/Troll on PvX", which was previously held by igor. this is juzt de word uf mouf i ben heering tho. Biddlers  McDiddlensmith  <font color="Black">yarrgh  02:37, 22 September 2008 (EDT)
 * You have been crowned by Biddy, all heil the troll. -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 02:56, 22 September 2008 (EDT)
 * well thanks Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 12:06, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

Explain your flail fetish.
Brandnew. 15:23, 22 September 2008 (EDT)
 * it's good. I like snares Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 15:29, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

Please
Stop being dumb. Bloodspike is a spike, unless you are shitty and then you can only play it as pressure. After beating loads of these, i can tell you the ones that even come close to winning are the ones that spike =\ Rawrawr Dinosaur 15:15, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Yeah... when it's shit as a spike... and i've beat top HA teams with this. A "Spike" sucks tbh Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 15:16, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Good joke. Name a top team you've beaten (genuinely, with HA standards it is not hard anyway). You just need a caller who isnt a shitter. Stop being dumb. Rawrawr Dinosaur 15:17, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Herd 800 unprottable damage over 2 seconds kills shit. [[Image:Ojamo_Sig.jpg|19px]] Ojamo  Tell Me I Fail  15:18, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

Warning
Don't break 1RV on the HA Bloodspike build. It's a spike build. 7 people using a skill on a target at once is the definition of a spike. Any further reverts will be reported.

If you think it should be named that, actually discuss it first. You're only allowed to take it upon yourself to move a build when there's an error in the name (grammatical, no profession shown etc) or it's a completely ridiculous name that breaks the naming policy. <font color="#69c">—Tab <font color="#69c"> McPiplup  <font color="#69c">ツ  15:18, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * or its actually better as pressure Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 15:19, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I'll be frank. You have no idea what you're talking about. By all means continue to play a spike build as pressure, but don't go incorrectly changing names. I'm not arguing it any further. <font color="#69c">—Tab <font color="#69c"> McPiplup  <font color="#69c">ツ  15:21, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I do... you pressure one target till it's dead. Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 15:26, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Oh my god i lol'd hard irl. Rawrawr Dinosaur 15:26, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * THATS WHAT A SPIKE IS M8 [[Image:Ojamo_Sig.jpg|19px]] Ojamo  Tell Me I Fail  15:27, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * NO.... note it says on tht article the spike is unholy feast Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 15:28, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Im not even joking usobad Rawrawr Dinosaur 15:29, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Good. i don't like unfunny jokes :) Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 15:31, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Seriously tho... you were joking right? Rawrawr Dinosaur 15:32, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * You really are terrible if you don't think Bloodspike is a spike. [[Image:Ojamo_Sig.jpg|19px]] Ojamo  Tell Me I Fail  15:33, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I laughed so hard. The best thing is he probably wasn't and will now say he did. God  box    15:35, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

Luke... You use your skills on one person AT ONCE and then they fucking die. You deal a massive spike of damage that is hard to protect against through prots or heals. That makes it a spike. Pressure is when you continuously apply damage and cause kills by making the monks lose concentration or run out of energy by throwing around heals and prots. The vast majority of people play that build as spike and it's easier to score kills if you do it that way. I promise. Now stop trolling because I seriously doubt you have been playing blood spike (even as a pressure build) so you're just conjecturing and trying to get a rise out of people. - 15:37, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * i got a jack load of fame out of it the other day with a mate... won almost every match Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 15:39, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * pics or it didnt happen. im not joking. [[Image:Ojamo_Sig.jpg|19px]] Ojamo  Tell Me I Fail  15:40, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * And the funny thing is? I bet i have more than 15 times you. At least. Rawrawr Dinosaur 15:41, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * With who, Luke? And define "jack load". - [[Image:Panic_sig5.png]] 15:43, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * The funny thing is I'm bad and I can still tell luke's being retarded. 15:45, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

1v1
^ Rawrawr Dinosaur 15:32, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * ANSWER THE CHALLENGE SIR Rawrawr Dinosaur 15:36, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I bet rawr can beat him with echo mending [[Image:Ojamo_Sig.jpg|19px]] Ojamo  Tell Me I Fail  15:37, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * 1 v 1 is HB? i don't pay much attention to things... Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 15:41, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * 1v1 is you scrim him alone. [[Image:Ojamo_Sig.jpg|19px]] Ojamo  Tell Me I Fail  15:42, 23 September 2008 (EDT) wow you are so terrible it isnt even funny anymore
 * it was funny before? :S And ok. ill scrim now Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 15:45, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * It was pretty hilarious how you were constantly breaking policies and just generally making a dick of yourself and thought people would still like you around here. [[Image:Ojamo_Sig.jpg|19px]] Ojamo  Tell Me I Fail  15:46, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * People liked me before? :S I don't care about u "people" tbh u realise tht right? Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 15:47, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * That isn't an excuse to break policy and make a dick of yourself. [[Image:Ojamo_Sig.jpg|19px]] Ojamo  Tell Me I Fail  15:50, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * No. it's a reason. and what about this 1v1? Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 15:52, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I'll 1v1 you if rawr isn't on. [[Image:Ojamo_Sig.jpg|19px]] Ojamo  Tell Me I Fail  15:54, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

When im next on gw Rawrawr Dinosaur 15:55, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Already guested, gogogo. [[Image:Ojamo_Sig.jpg|19px]] Ojamo  Tell Me I Fail  15:59, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

PvXwiki:Policy
You've been warned by both me and Tab, through these conversations it's clear that you've not read policies (When you said you don't care about us "people", when Ojama said that's not an excuse, you replied with no, it's a reason). As such, this is an ultimatum. You can either read and, as such, abide by the policies in place here. The alternative is, you continue the way you are, and the next time you brake a policy (regardless of which one, or by how much). You will be banned. I will post a similar notice on the AN for the other admins to see, so they'll be aware as well. <font color="#4F94CD">PheNaxKian <font color="#9400D3">Sysop   16:55, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I think he's been warned enough :o ban!  — <small style="font-family:Verdana;font-variant: small-caps;"> Sazzy Pooh [[Image:PinkNautical.jpg]]16:57, 23 Sep 2008 
 * Hello saz. u are a lovely person. i love you. i hope you have good luck Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 16:58, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Your sarcasm intrigues me, sir ^^  — <small style="font-family:Verdana;font-variant: small-caps;"> Sazzy Pooh [[Image:PinkNautical.jpg]]16:59, 23 Sep 2008 
 * Saz brings up (somewhat) a point. I forgot to mention the reason I haven't banned you. The first warning (issued by me) was in regards to breaking of NPA and not writing your build articles. Tabs was in regards to 1RV. This is a complete warning covering all aspects. <font color="#4F94CD">PheNaxKian <font color="#9400D3">Sysop   17:02, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * why thankyou kind sir. I wish you all the best of luck in your current activity, whatever it may be. May the ehavens bless you :) Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 17:13, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

I vote Phenax blocks him for obvious asshattery in his above responses. ツ cedave  (☆contributions☆)  12:33, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
 * why kind sir? this is no breach of policy i am just being polite. :D Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 12:38, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
 * No you are just trying to be sarcastic and funny but being bad at it. -- ϲɽоω   ɱϲɑɳǥɽƴɗɽɑɡоɳ  12:39, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
 * no. im trying to be kind :O what a horrible assumption you have there Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 12:46, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Yea I hope you do get banned tbh. -- ϲɽоω   ɱϲɑɳǥɽƴɗɽɑɡоɳ  12:50, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I would have believed that if it was like, 10 years ago when I still believed in instant friendships.<font color="#FDD017" face="blackadder itc">Pika <font color="#FDD017" face="blackadder itc">Fan [[image:lightningbolt_sig.jpg|19x19px]] 12:51, 24 September 2008 (EDT)


 * Somebody explain to me what the fuck is going on. It seems you niggers are breaking NPA as much as him in these convos. - <B>Jax010</B> // healingp=0 19:21, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
 * ^ups Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 12:08, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Does saying I hope he gets banned count as NPA, somebody tell me ;o. -- ϲɽоω   ɱϲɑɳǥɽƴɗɽɑɡоɳ  13:08, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Lets find out: Luke, imho your an absolute shittard. (no NPA there. It's a opinion.) And I hope you get banned. Brandnew.  13:11, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Tbh does anybody like him? That is an actual serious question, not me being nasty. -- ϲɽоω   ɱϲɑɳǥɽƴɗɽɑɡоɳ  13:12, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Ups I'm in his RA team atm lol. He is D/W Sword Onslaught Derv ;o. -- ϲɽоω   ɱϲɑɳǥɽƴɗɽɑɡоɳ  13:18, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Nope. -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 13:18, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
 * No. That is an actual serious answer, not me being nasty.  — <small style="font-family:Verdana;font-variant: small-caps;"> Sazzy Pooh [[Image:PinkNautical.jpg]]13:19, 26 Sep 2008 
 * i dont either. no joke ... Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 13:28, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I don't either :> Brandnew.  13:29, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
 * ^ups Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 13:32, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
 * "Lets find out: Luke, imho your an absolute shittard." Still a personal attack, opinion or not. - <B>Jax010</B> // healingp=0 12:37, 27 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Really....everyone, get off of the kids page. He's trolling ALL of you.  Let the sysops handle him.  It's pretty funny to watch you all throw oil on the fire, and expect it to smother itself.  Just leave it alone.  He'll eventually take a few of you down with him getting banned if you all keep at it.  Mr.   Big  12:59, 27 September 2008 (EDT)
 * For some reason I think they are all trolling him in this case. Why is everyone staying on his talk page anyway? [[Image:Image-Dark_Morphon's_Siggie.jpg‎]]<font color="Black">Dark <font color="Black">Morphon <font color="Black"> (contribs)  07:17, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

Although your vote is generous, you might want to change the reasoning. ignore, wrong person. Saint 16:35, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Dear luke
You know how to sign a talk page, stop being a tool. - Misery  Is  Friendly   10:03, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
 * yes. but this isn't my pc and for some reason when i try and sigh with tildes |||| comes up - luke
 * ~ <-- Use that for copy pasta, or link your name each time before admins spank you. They are already on your ass for not reading policies. - Misery  Is  Friendly  [[image:Misery Dog obaby.gif|19px]] 10:07, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
 * or just do like everyone else and click the sign button tbh  — <small style="font-family:Verdana;font-variant: small-caps;"> Sazzy Pooh [[Image:PinkNautical.jpg]]10:09, 01 Oct 2008 
 * I didn't want to go through explaining a new concept to a card carrying mensa member. - Misery  Is  Friendly  [[image:Misery Dog obaby.gif|19px]] 10:11, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
 * :0 i never bothered to look for a time stamp. A what's MENSA got to do with everything to you guys here? -- Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 10:26, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
 * You are just so much smarter than me and it hurts so bad. Oh the jealousy :< - Misery  Is  Friendly  [[image:Misery Dog obaby.gif|19px]] 10:35, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
 * ?? lol wut? grow up? -- Dutchess of Rose aka  lukejohnson  - talk 10:41, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Please don't continue to rub it in my face Luke, I'm going off to my corner to cry now :< - Misery  Is  Friendly  [[image:Misery Dog obaby.gif|19px]] 10:45, 1 October 2008 (EDT)

luke is good Tab 10:48, 1 October 2008 (EDT)

Wear should i fit in another hard rezz?
Dutchess of Rose aka  lukejohnson  - talk 13:17, 3 October 2008 (EDT) Your safest option would probably be to either go D/hard res or W/hardres. Eventhough I like the poison spam on your dervish and no rend makes me cry :> Brandnew.  13:21, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * i know :( it's strong, but 1 hard rezz is not so good :/ Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 13:22, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * 1 hard rez is fine if you dont suck Rawrawr Dinosaur 13:26, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Yes, but I'm pretty sure Luke and I both suck :> Brandnew.  13:28, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * fast casting SH and no dust trap on one of the trappers. Epic. Rawrawr Dinosaur 13:32, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * i know 1 hard rez shud be fine, and dust trap i 4got because i kept changing skilsl on trappers, so swap for flame trap on /P. and Fast cast SH is there just for SoH. meh. it'll work Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 13:41, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * did you just suggest dropping dust trap? <_< Rawrawr Dinosaur 13:44, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * (Mind me if I'm translating this wrong. I usually have a hard time reading luke ;o ) He's saying he forgot one dust trap because he kept on changing the skills on the trappers. So he actually wanted to put it in. Brandnew.  13:46, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * I think luke midread what rawr said, I think he thought that using dust trap was epic and said to change it for Flame Trap on the /p. l2solve -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 13:49, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * no. i sed i meant drop flame for dust. Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 13:50, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * It could have ment both ;o -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 13:52, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * No wait it couldn't you said on the /P, the /P already has Dust Trap thus you ment drop it for Flame Trap! -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 13:54, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * yeah. i dont explain things well. but yes. thats the build "both have dust trap..." what do u think? Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 13:59, 3 October 2008 (EDT)

Welcome to HA Shove Spike
Major failing. discuss Dutchess of Rose aka  lukejohnson  - talk 18:36, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * I herd trappers nd earth eles for no reason ownz? Rawrawr Dinosaur 18:39, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * And Shovespike is ludicrisly easy to catch as long as your Monk is halfway decent at infusing or even just pounding a healing button. --[[Image:GoD_Hammer_and_Sickle.jpg|19px]] <small style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Verdana;border-style:solid;border-width:2px;border-color:red;background-color:gold;padding:0px 5px 1px 6px;"> Guild  of   Deals   18:40, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * lolthe healers spike too. -çɼoʂʂƴƿʃooƿʂ  <font color="#B3C51B">ɱçƒıɼeƿʃɑçkɘʃʂ [[Image:Crossfirexiv grinchsig.gif|19px]] 18:41, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Well they always did in the original Shovespike. It was WoH, RC, DH, and the caller. --[[Image:GoD_Hammer_and_Sickle.jpg|19px]] <small style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Verdana;border-style:solid;border-width:2px;border-color:red;background-color:gold;padding:0px 5px 1px 6px;"> Guild  of   Deals   18:42, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * and the trappers + earth ele are for defence when the monks run back into "base" Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 18:43, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * How the hell are trappers + earth ele more defence than 3 monks? Rawrawr Dinosaur 18:44, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * becoz i haves a trapper + earth ele fetish. and conditions and blind. And trappers have higher AL? Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 18:45, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * BAD -çɼoʂʂƴƿʃooƿʂ <font color="#B3C51B">ɱçƒıɼeƿʃɑçkɘʃʂ [[Image:Crossfirexiv grinchsig.gif|19px]] 18:45, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Lol, good joke. Rawrawr Dinosaur 18:46, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * :) Well yeah. It's shove spike. it sucks. don't expect anything amazing Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 18:48, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Shovespikelol. -çɼoʂʂƴƿʃooƿʂ <font color="#B3C51B">ɱçƒıɼeƿʃɑçkɘʃʂ [[Image:Crossfirexiv grinchsig.gif|19px]] 18:50, 3 October 2008 (EDT)

Emp Removal --> decent monk elite (try DH, you'll have enough monk elites to spare by the time this is fixed). Trappers --> proper monks. Earth ele --> paragon; give him something to help on the spikes. -- Armond Warblade 18:52, 3 October 2008 (EDT)

Wtf?
I said PD is a shitty skill and that most other Mesmer elites are better. The response i got was that i cant enter MENSA and that i should complain here. I clicked the link and was brought to this Luke guy's page... wtf?17:44, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Luke is the leader of your kind. -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 17:46, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
 * i lol'd irl when i saw he'd actually posted here. [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] ツ cedave   (☆contributions☆)  17:49, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
 * yea and also thanks for calling me a fucking retard... At least retards aren't douche bags... 17:51, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Retard/Douchebag, I think I made the right choice. -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 17:52, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
 * ^ [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] ツ cedave   (☆contributions☆)  17:54, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Retards= funny, awesome, usually loving, happy, loved members of society. Douchebags= hated, lonely, angry members of society.
 * PvXwiki is seperate from normal society thus Retards = Very annoying and always wrong and Douchebags = people who even if they go about it in a bad manner, are usually right and superior. -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 18:58, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
 * all i have left to say ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnlgegDh_w4&feature=related  also, sry this took place on your user page luke... you seem like a nice guy.  Stick it to the man! 21:26, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
 * A.W.K. has so many better songs. you just lost manliness points for posting that one. also, Luke isn't a nice person. i'm surprised he hasn't /sarcasmfaceraged you yet. [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] ツ cedave   (☆contributions☆)  23:58, 6 October 2008 (EDT)


 * Imo he wouldn't be such a bitch to you guys if you guys weren't like that to him in the first place. Nearly went through the same thing myself. - <B>Jax010</B> // healingp=0 01:25, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Imo we wouldn't do it either if he wasn't so arrogant and bad. -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 02:08, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
 * ^ also, imo, attributes are good. [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] ツ cedave   (☆contributions☆)  02:36, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Ruïned it with that joke tbh. Brandnew.  03:16, 7 October 2008 (EDT)

I loled irl. Wtf's this convo about? Dutchess of Rose aka  lukejohnson  - talk 12:06, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Lets just say, this guy is worse than you. -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 12:11, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Some anon just got voted off the island. He was far too wise and intelligent for our kind. [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] ツ cedave   (☆contributions☆)  12:13, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
 * im not actually that bad. i just like to act it. and lols Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 12:28, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Unless you're Napalm Flame, I have to question that until I see it in action. [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] ツ cedave   (☆contributions☆)  13:37, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Luke isn't that bad, about a notch better than GoD -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 13:38, 7 October 2008 (EDT)


 * Napalm likes to act bad, but he has the problem of not being able to recognize anything but bad. So he really doesn't have a choice; it's just convenient that he likes to act what he already has to do. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 13:40, 7 October 2008 (EDT)

YOU ALL SUX. I R GOOD. [build prof=W/E ][Star Burst][Flame Djinn's Haste][Sever Artery][Gash][Sun and Moon Slash][Lion's Comfort][Conjure Flame][Resurrection Signet][/build]
 * +1. i lol'd irl. [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] ツ cedave   (☆contributions☆)  17:56, 7 October 2008 (EDT)

Hard resses aren't for the pro

 * 13 fire magic obv. then flare is only a nubby 59 Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 20:15, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
 * I must say that looks utterly terrible. Also why not just write up the builds into your sandbox instead of taking screen shots of it on TB. Or you could just stop making builds all together as you do not seem to be getting any better at it. ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 20:19, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
 * You seem to not be getting any more brains eh? zzzz Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 20:20, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
 * res sig on monks should be replaced with a rebirth and a vengeance <font color="Purple">Ojamo  <font color="Green">(>.<( O=(- -Q)  20:22, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
 * that was the first funny thing youve ever sad haha Rawrawr Dinosaur 20:23, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
 * ojamo. it's down to preference tbh. I find Healer's boon has better synergy with sig tbh Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 20:30, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
 * i hope you arent srsly <font color="Purple">Ojamo  <font color="Green">(>.<( O=(- -Q)  20:32, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
 * note what i meant by my comment to shadow... Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 20:35, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Healer's Boon has more synergy with Resurrection Chant, and it would with Renew Life if it weren't bugged. Imo, take Holy Haste+Resurrection Chant if you're going to bring rez on a Monk in HA. XD Also, needs moar Healing Burst, Burst of Aggression, Frozen Burst and Flame Burst for novelty. ــмıкε  нaшк  20:39, 11 October 2008 (EDT)

Worth submitting?


I looked at the trip war you have on atm, and it's pretty much a lot different Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 09:36, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
 * No WoW, even with an OoS Rit... --[[Image:GoD_Hammer_and_Sickle.jpg|19px]] <small style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Verdana;border-style:solid;border-width:2px;border-color:red;background-color:gold;padding:0px 5px 1px 6px;"> Guild  of   Deals   09:40, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Yehai don't think of everything. But that would probably in place of warmongers, as it isn't really needed with lots of knockdowns . Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 09:41, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
 * You don't really take advantage of your knockdowns with SH or equal. God  box    13:40, 12 October 2008 (EDT)

Work in TA?
I'm thinking it might? Dutchess of Rose aka  lukejohnson  - talk 16:01, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Why not a R/P with Tiger's Fury and Stunning Strike? Then you can take a hammur or a cripslosh or evisc -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 16:08, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
 * quivering is strong 4v4 Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 16:12, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Not rly, QB is pretty bad, FF and dual monk lolz upon it. -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 16:13, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
 * errr. it is. And stunning strike is much worse imho. Its condition pressure with a WoD. Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 16:15, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Condition Pressure in TA is pretty flimsy since you need to shut down the FF bot/Draw bot to make it work, this can't particuraly shut it down. -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 16:16, 16 October 2008 (EDT)

Daze sucks in TA  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ  16:18, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
 * To frosty, condition pressure works when u constantly reapply conditions. And it's a short lasting daze anyway. And daze is good in TA, it doesn't need to last long tbh Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 16:22, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Thing with shortlasting dazes is; they are only good for spikes. any team can survive 5 seconds without their monk tbh. Brandnew.  16:25, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Shame you have a WoD as well Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 16:26, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
 * (ec)Drawbitch disagrees. You can't 'spam' Daze; it's conditional. Also I find it weird that you start a thread asking whether or not a build works and then you start defending it as if you're sure it will.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 16:28, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Why not? Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 16:33, 16 October 2008 (EDT)



that's the best I can make of cond pressure in TA, needs mesmer to land div on FF or draw otherwise you will loose, counters current hex faggotry with expel and dual stance monk is lolzy -- Frosty  16:37, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Why not a R/P with Tiger's Fury and Stunning Strike? Then you can take a hammur or a cripslosh or evisc --Frosty 16:08, 16 October 2008 (EDT)   Brandnew.  16:40, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Either is gud rly, but this is trying to get QB in the build, you could go

Cripslosh/Dev hammer with

Ban
You've been told to write you're build articles properly. this suggests that you haven't even read policies, which I've told you to do. After you've read this after you've come back from your ban, I suggest you do as I told you, and read our policies, and I mean all of them. <font color="#4F94CD"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#9400D3">Sysop   14:58, 17 October 2008 (EDT)
 * SOMEONE FINALLY DID IT, KUDO's MR. PHENAXKIAN~. ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 16:29, 17 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Don't get a wet dream yet; it was only a week ban --[[Image:GoD_Hammer_and_Sickle.jpg|19px]] <small style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Verdana;border-style:solid;border-width:2px;border-color:red;background-color:gold;padding:0px 5px 1px 6px;"> Guild  of   Deals   16:40, 17 October 2008 (EDT)
 * I hope you're next. ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 21:33, 17 October 2008 (EDT)

I thought
You couldn't get req8 tactic shields anymore. (16AL) Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 05:35, 25 October 2008 (EDT)


 * Think again. -- ›[[Image:Many srs beans.png|Srs Bean Mafia.]] <font color="#27408B">Srs Beans R Srs  05:51, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
 * they is rare? Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 05:58, 25 October 2008 (EDT)

Ahem. Need people to play this
Dutchess of Rose aka  lukejohnson  - talk 06:19, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Rangerway!-- Shadow [[Image:Relyk Sig.gif]] 06:22, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
 * That rit bar looks really heavy on energy. -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 06:25, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
 * And the rit bar will be fine on energy unless you phail. Its almost all 5energy skills. guided is for altar capping. Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 06:35, 25 October 2008 (EDT)

Brandnew. 06:26, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
 * OoA
 * Thumpers KD so often SH is almost too nice to give up on. ;o
 * OoA fails in this build... and Needs moar defence. so UG Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 06:34, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
 * What's the point of earth attunement if it last 20 seconds? better than nothing? enlighten me :<-- Shadow [[Image:Relyk Sig.gif]] 06:37, 25 October 2008 (EDT)


 * Screwing over team mates is meta. Oh, and Attune will be ripped, rended, shattered and rupted every single time because it's your only Enchantment. Noones going to leave that on. -- ›[[Image:Many srs beans.png|Srs Bean Mafia.]] <font color="#27408B">Srs Beans R Srs  10:15, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
 * You could manage energy on tht earth bar using mainly GoLE and not much else tbh Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 12:14, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
 * A fine joke. Thumpways without either ooa or nr/tranq dont get kills. Rawrawr Dinosaur 18:04, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Ups, you have nr/tranq but they'll last 10 seconds and you have hardly any pressure and that rit is god awful. Rawrawr Dinosaur 18:05, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
 * The rit's probs awful because im not very good at making them. And i've tested this, and the spirits aren't killed in 10 seconds if you aren't dumb. And interrupt there nukerS? Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 18:40, 26 October 2008 (EDT)

"as i've seen insults on me plastered everywhere"
Doesn't give you an excuse or a right to insult other people. I'm not going to be retarded and go and try and ban people for things that happened before I became an admin. If you get personally attacked, report it, don't retaliate or I'll ban both parties if I see it. - Misery  Is  Friendly   08:28, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
 * So what do i do if i see an insult about me? Because i'll need to be doing it alot :) Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 08:29, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Personal attacks can be reported on the AN. Make sure it is a valid personal attack though or you are just going to get admins pissed off at you because "X said I wasn't good at guild wars" is not a personal attack. - Misery  Is  Friendly  [[image:Misery Dog obaby.gif|19px]] 08:32, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Ofc these are actual personal attacks im getting Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 09:06, 26 October 2008 (EDT)

CONSUME SOUL SPIKE!
Need help with bars Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 18:16, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
 * :0 wheres my HA staples. 1 minute Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 18:22, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
 * u can spyk dem spiritz rel gud - Misery  Is  Friendly  [[image:Misery Dog obaby.gif|19px]] 18:23, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
 * U know what consume soul does right? Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 18:29, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Like 60 life steal. - Misery  Is  Friendly  [[image:Misery Dog obaby.gif|19px]] 18:34, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Yeah. I.e. 7 of these. with a DW, = spikes Dutchess of Rose aka  lukejohnson  - talk 18:36, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
 * and the spike has like a 4 second recharge. Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 18:42, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Bit like BSpike init? -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 18:47, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
 * but more defense tbh Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 18:50, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
 * +10 regen and constantly stealing health doesn't have any defense? -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 18:53, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Which is shittet on by Spikes and Has no snares, and can be destroyed by EoE? Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 18:55, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
 * You get worse by the day, don't you?  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 19:02, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
 * No. notice i said for help.

how the fuck can you have 7 rits and only 2 of them resto HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA Rawrawr Dinosaur 19:03, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Not needed? idk. i asked for help. ^o) Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 19:05, 27 October 2008 (EDT)



A better ritspike. Rawrawr Dinosaur 19:09, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
 * ups, without deadly paradox on caller tho Rawrawr Dinosaur 19:11, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
 * What is SB for? Just curious. --86.170.146.185 19:14, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
 * So your caller can't be interrupted on rend (very few teams run ranger anyway, but vs that guardian + kill ranger). Mimicry for near perma SB on caller, and it also means you can't get PDed on KoTH maps meaning easier caps. Rawrawr Dinosaur 19:20, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
 * KKz thx, how does it help caps? --86.170.146.185 19:23, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
 * I know what ritspike is. I was using consume soul. Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 19:32, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
 * It helps caps cuz the most common skill for interrupting the ghostly capturing the altar is PD, and spell breaker = they can't PD you. So if you can interrupt the other 2 ghosts (ddagger, and hope the other one gets int by other teams PD) its basically a free cap. Rawrawr Dinosaur 19:36, 27 October 2008 (EDT)

LOL
theorycraft bttr plz, kk hve fun w/ ban. kbye. -- <font color="DarkBlue">An <font color="DarkBlue">gel <font color="DarkBlue">us  08:07, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
 * You are so mature.<font color="#FDD017" face="blackadder itc">Pika <font color="#FDD017" face="blackadder itc">Fan [[image:lightningbolt_sig.jpg|19x19px]] 12:29, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
 * please, a little joking around doesn't hurt anyone. --[[Image:Dervsig.png|15px]] <font color="DarkBlue">An <font color="DarkBlue">gel <font color="DarkBlue">us  18:00, 28 October 2008 (EDT)

FAIL
U FAIL - <font color="Red">Jak123X 12:26, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Less NPA, flame ig. -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 12:27, 28 October 2008 (EDT)

Archive
plx, it takes too long to get to the bottom. <font color="Purple">Ojamo  <font color="Green">(>.<( O=(- -Q)  15:00, 28 October 2008 (EDT)


 * Use the ToC imo. -- ›[[Image:Many srs beans.png|Srs Bean Mafia.]] <font color="#27408B">Srs Beans R Srs  15:30, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
 * But you have to scroll to get to the bottom of the ToC, too~ =O ــмıкε  нaшк  15:37, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
 * and the actual size is big, so people with slow connections take ages to load the page (that's generally the main point of archiving). <font color="#4F94CD"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#9400D3">Sysop   15:39, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Well he's banned at the moment, so QQ moar? - Misery  Is  Friendly  [[image:Misery Dog obaby.gif|19px]] 15:46, 28 October 2008 (EDT)

YEAYEAYEA
YEAYEAYEA -- Frosty  20:51, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
 * STRONG MCGUILDWARS Biddlers   McDiddlensmith  <font color="Black">yarrgh  21:29, 30 October 2008 (EDT)

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Page is getting pretty long
As mentioned above. Please archive and have a fabulous day. - Misery  Is  Friendly   08:27, 31 October 2008 (EDT)
 * do it for me? Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 08:30, 31 October 2008 (EDT)