User talk:Robertjanvaneijk1988/Build:R/Me Ultra Blackout

Making a match 3v3 or 7v7 is not good.  Frosty  No U!  10:51, 20 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Its meaned to total shutdown the monk or mesmer so you team could easy run over the rest.robertjan 10:54, 20 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Just use a mesmer with shame/diversion. And why the fuck is it ranger primary?  Frosty  No U!  10:54, 20 July 2008 (EDT)
 * 4 energy blacxkouts as opposed to 10, 70 AL vs. physical, 100 vs elemental.--Golden [[image:Goldenstar.JPG|19px]]Star 10:57, 20 July 2008 (EDT)
 * True, but if you want to run a ranger with blackout just run the magebane one or something  Frosty  No U!  10:58, 20 July 2008 (EDT)
 * With mesmer primary you'll have a hard time to manage energy and you have a lot extra armor |:) And what means +10 from megabane? is that 10 sec diable or +10 sec recharge?robertjan 10:59, 20 July 2008 (EDT)
 * It's disabled for an extra 10 seconds, and gl with Rend on your R/Me  Frosty  No U!  11:02, 20 July 2008 (EDT)
 * So basically your sitting there spamming Blackout, Blackout is only good when used tactically, oh and wait, what happens if they kite?  Frosty  No U!  11:13, 20 July 2008 (EDT)

Better attempts at this have been done and completely voted down before. Echo sucks too. What if they use Inspired Enchantment and use it for their own gain? -- Sazzy  11:15, 20 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Chances of inspiring Echo are low. Noone watches the ranger to rip enchants off of...  11:51, 20 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Was the main reason why the last one got terrible votes tbh. -- Sazzy  11:58, 20 July 2008 (EDT)
 * The main reason was necause it only made a 3v3 situation. [[Image:Beta Rotting Flesh.jpg|17px]]Kongtorp 11:59, 20 July 2008 (EDT)
 * If you use blackout after echo it isn't an enchant anymore. So i couldn't be removed. And you use this ranger/mesmer to completely shutdown the enermy caster (monk or mesmer) and let your group kill the rest. Also unflagged RA since the chance you have a monk yourself in the party is to small and you need a monk yourself.robertjan 03:32, 21 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Removing echo is easy enough if you pay a little attention to it. They're gonna knew you're chaining blackout after a while, and therefor not stand close. So you'll have to cast echo, then run towards them. And that's when the opposing team has all the time in the world to do it. But like said before, creating a 3v3 situation doesn't really win the game. -- Sazzy  19:37, 21 July 2008 (EDT)

Can't find my debate on the other build any more. Point is, other characters do this better, on multiple characters, while also able to bring utility and survive better. Simple as that. - Star Seeker  |  My talk  07:58, 26 July 2008 (EDT)