Archive talk:Team - GvG Dual Smite

Inserted all bars because it looked like shit with only the links Tyrael   PewPew  13:04, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Call me stupid but, how do you win? You don't have enough damage to kill anything at stand neither through pressure, nor spikes(eventhough Judge's Insight makes shit fucking explode) which means you'll never get to their base or lord, and I'm not sure how you'd split to get some lord damage to win at 28 minutes, which I guess this is supposed to do. However, I have very little GvG knowledge so never mind me. Brandnew 13:26, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * It does actually put out quite a lot of pressure and can spike too! People don't put PoD and WoC in a build for no reason, use some logic. --Crow 13:30, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * So this is good? Brandnew 14:00, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * YMCA got to the finals with it. --Frosty  [[Image:Frostcharge.jpg|19px]] 14:04, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Word of Censure. This is amazing. -- Chaos  -- 14:23, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Added trial tag and yes WoC is an armor ignoring spike assist, it's actually not so terrible in this build setup, this build is able to push kills anyways Tyrael [[Image:Life Sheath.jpg|19px]]  PewPew  16:48, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I guess since this was ripped directly from observe it can go straight into testing Tyrael [[Image:Life Sheath.jpg|19px]]  PewPew  17:40, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * In modern day Guild Wars you need to be defensefag more then good to win, iirc, so that doesn't prove anything. (note: I haven't followed mAT's (or any form of Guild Wars) as I haven't been able to and I've got better things to do, so disregard my entire comment if defenfaggin' is ar rom current meta)
 * Yeah, I realize that, I was just surprised to see it. -- Chaos  -- 17:44, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow, I never thought I'd see WoC actually being played. [[Image:Zyke-Sig.png]] 20:17, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * x2 smite condi and x1 smite hex is actually decent pressure~ ExpiredYogurt 06:27, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Bump
Votes votes votes! Tyrael   PewPew  18:56, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

are the monk bars correct? judges + PoD + reversal + divine doesn't seem right to have all on one bar. Gringo 19:12, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * There might be some flaws, I got all the skills but they might be changed from smiter if that seems a better idea to you Tyrael [[Image:Life Sheath.jpg|19px]]  PewPew  19:34, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * find out which goes on what otherwise energy will be all screwy, i think its just 2 party heals on mo/n and judge's insight on mo/rt, but thattl need confirmation. Gringo 19:39, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Those are the right builds. --Frosty  [[Image:Frostcharge.jpg|19px]] 19:48, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * If frostels says they are then they oficially are right! Anyway lets vote! Tyrael [[Image:Life Sheath.jpg|19px]]  PewPew  19:59, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Melshot v. Cripshot
The heading was Mel Shot and the bars had Crip Shot. I could swear that Mel Shot is used over Crip Shot in this build. Please change it back only if there's a consensus that Crip Shot is correct, and don't just revert, change everything - the heading and both bars - to Crip Shot.--War_Pig5 16:48, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * maybe they use melshot, but considering its the only snare in the build, cripshot is superior to the power of a million. Gringo 18:14, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Incorrect x2. Melandru's Shot+Cripslash+Icy Shackles=3 snares. Can anyone confirm what was used in the AT? --War_Pig5 19:02, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Doesn't matter, you'd be dumb to run mels over crip shot. --Crow 19:04, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * They all subbed monk for Bane Signet, frontline was Criplash with Steelfang Slash and Whirling with Lacerating Chop. The backline consisted of bonders, and the flagger specced into earth to tank better. -- Chaos  -- 19:10, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * In the final they ran Mel's iirc. But they used Cripshot vs split builds. --Frosty  [[Image:Frostcharge.jpg|19px]] 19:21, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Smiters' Divine Favor=12 and 9, not 13 and 10 Divine Favor runes on GvG smiters are fail.</STRIKE>
First, on a smiter with few skills that benefit from +1 Divine Favor, +10 health is better than +3 healing. Second, 12 and 9 were used in the MAT. --War_Pig5 02:06, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * You're phrasing terribly. Are you saying that they ran no runes, with 12 smiting and 9 divine favor? You can't say "Smiter's Divine Favor", people will wtf. -- Chaos  -- 12:19, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * I did not say that. People can wtf all they want at my correct English. I'll make it simple: smiters need health more than they need Divine Favor. They did not run 12+1 and 9+1 Divine; they ran 12 and 9. --War_Pig5 01:54, February 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * wtf Spaggage  talk  02:57, February 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Three casts of a skill with divfaf repays the 10 health? And Heaven's Delight heals for more. Having a little higher hp is only beneficial if you get spiked from max health. -- Chaos  -- 11:20, February 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Running the runes gives you higher spec resto/curses, there is no reason not to.... --<font color="Black">Frosty  [[Image:Frostcharge.jpg|19px]] 13:04, February 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * exactly, i dont understand why you wouldnt have your +1 runes. are they hurting you or something? -- <font color="DarkBlue">Ang <font color="DarkBlue">el <font color="DarkBlue">us 13:55, February 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * When your smiter runs no skills that benefit from divine favor, you wouldn't use a +1 DF rune. When your smiter has only a few skills that benefit from divine favor, then it becomes a judgment call. I agree that the current divine favor specs 11+1 and 8+1 are an example of good judgment. I created this section of Talk because this article had incorrect 12+1 and 9+1 specs at the time. --War_Pig5 06:00, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's 10 health versus spammable 3.2 healing. Stop whining, it's only 1 vitae rune. The biggest blasphemy is that WoC is actually run!!111!!!! [[image:lightningbolt_sig.jpg|19x19px]]<font color="#FDD017" face="blackadder itc">uɐɟ <font color="#FDD017" face="blackadder itc">ɐʞıd  <font color="#FF0033">o <font color="#000000">^_^ <font color="#FF0033">o  <font color="#996600">¸ <font color="#FFCC00">« <font color="#FFCC00">` 09:31, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not whining. Stop whining about WoC!!!!!!1--War_Pig5 10:04, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * You don't get it, so think a little and change your attitude, then try again. -- Chaos  -- 12:11, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

BUMP
One moar 'Good' vote pl0x <font color="Black" face="Comic Sans" size="3">Tyrael  <font color="Red"> PewPew  18:32, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

2 Smiters
Turns me on. -- SteamyIgloo!  14:40, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

Word of Censure
I just jizzed in my pants. 75.34.80.4 06:45, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * I just boggled my gooble in the turnip. wat--<font color ="Blue">Ikimono <font color ="Brown">...And my Axe! [[Image:Monk-Paragon-icon.png]] 11:47, May 10, 2010 (UTC)