PvXwiki:Requests for adminship/Chieftain Alex


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the nomination of a user for adminship. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.

Chieftain Alex (talk &bull; contribs &bull; RfA page)
Pretty solid list of contributions, little drama, and no block log. Seems interested in helping with janitorial tasks such as tagging images, so user will probably do well with sysop tools. - Auron 12:13, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:
 * I accept the nomination. Along with the abilities to delete vandal stuff, if I were made an admin I would attempt to become more neutral on PvX - clearly others judge my old attitude towards my guildmates as negative - I will say this, I have no guild now. I have attempted to give up gw/pvx so many times I have lost count, I will probably be here until the fall of PvX. My resuming studies after my exams will reduce my abilities to patrol recent changes, but in turn probably make me less involved in arguements and reduce my bias. [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px|link=User:Chieftain Alex]] Chieftain   Alex  14:30, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Nomination Failed.

Support

 * 1) Alex has a very solid list of contributions like Auron said. He isn't prone to trolling or baiting and remains level-headed in discussion. I've looked through his contributions and behavior on Guildwarswiki before, along with his behavior on this wiki; my impression is he would be well suited for adminship. The only problem is that in the past, he's shown to favor his friends (i.e. Minion) in the past instead of staying neutral in discussions. At times, he supported Minion zealously at times when he shouldn't have. This doesn't give me a good impression on how he will mediate arguments, but in recent discussions, his comments have remained thoughtful and neutral. If I would have to say, he has been around long enough, has sufficient knowledge of the game, and enough ability to mediate arguments as necessary. On the janitorial side, he displays more than sufficient knowledge for the role.-- Relyk  13:05, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) Solid list of contributions and I think were he to become an admin he would look at things more objectively due to the added responsibility. Also the stuff Relyk said. SpongeBobSignaturePants.jpg 13:44, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) I'd rather see an admin shake things up and agree with people who's right because they're right instead of what others on PvX think of a person, skill, or build with all the groupthink that plagues PvX. Cuilan 20:06, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) Jai reminded me of this. As well as tagging along with the whole sexist rampage, when she's one of our oldest and well respected members show's a complete disregard for common decency.  RąʂKɭɘş  ♣  14/f/japan  13:50, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) After reading through tens of randomly picked contributions with emphasis in places of drama.. His overall contribution history does indeed seem very constructive. He rarely seems to step into the middle of the biggest heat, but I also often run into an underlying bad temper or passive insulting. He seems to keep his cool for the most, but he doesn't have the mentality to sip from a good cuppa Irish Coffee while sitting back and relaxing in a blazing, hellish, incinerating and infernal hellfire of endless despair and torment. In other words, I don't trust his conflict resolve, general mentality or his ability to bite his tongue over keeping his mouth shut. Emotionality is unfortunately not the very best of administrative traits, and I'd bet my Dressman's velvet jeans, remaining cigarettes and bag of Finnish, oh so delicious, traditional candy that he can't suddenly lose his sense of bias. --  DANDY ^_^ -- 14:54, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 3)  I'll begin by pointing out that I'm obviously quite bias but this is my vote, so quite rightly so. My knee-jerk reaction to this RfA, as I suspect most others here initially thought, was resounding opposition. I was pleasantly surprised after looking through his contributions to find that they generally weren't inline with that of his peers and many were menial, helpful tasks such as moving pages and improving build write ups. While all this is sign of a good user, many of these tasks could arguably be continued without the user being recognised as admin. In addition, having been personally involved in previous drama, I am greatly worried about what might happen should there be drama again involving his friends (which is inevitable when Minion's block ends and he tries to push through his next roleplaying build). The last incident saw Alex reduced to petty arguments and archaic kitchen jokes 1 (which is a shame because his posts tend to suggest he's reasonably well educated and therefore should've really grown beyond these things 2)  and it wasn't the first time 3. I stress that these edits were not even a reaction to Minion's ban, they were both prior to this event (and I suspect there are other, similar edits hidden in Minion's impressively long list of deleted builds). Lastly, Alex has been with us on PvX since 2008 and became more noticeably active in the last 1-2 years. I would generally expect anyone who has been with us for such a time to be able to answer this 4 themselves. Admins should have an intrinsic knowledge of how PvX works and be able to apply common sense to both policy and situations which fall outside of it and this particular edit leads me to believe that Alex is not yet ready to do this. Overall, you could say I believe that the possible benefits don't outweigh the risks of letting Alex become admin, hence my opposition. - Athrun Feya  [[Image:Athrun snow sig.gif]] 14:58, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 4) While I am sure he would do a fine job with the janitorial side of being an administrator, I have absolutely no faith in his ability to perform the other side of the job. He seems to have difficulty remaining unbiased and at the same time throws accusations of bias around willy nilly. His arguments in discussions are often not well grounded in logic and I just do not feel I could trust him with the full range of administrative tools. I don't have time at present to go contribution hunting, but if this is still running in about a week I can add some examples. A new misery  21:02, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 5) He has clearly shown that he can't be unbiased. While I do truly respect his opinion and that he does fulfill the janitorial aspect that doesn't entirely mean he is admin material. We have Phen and Toraen who do a tremendous job at keeping up this site. Even if we didn't have them, I still fear of how one-sided he is. He has defended Minion's builds to the point of something that is scary. And while talking with him on GW, he does know that Minion is indeed a troll. I fail to see any productive point to helping a troll do what he wishes to do. When I see idiotic posts such as and his cute little "trolling" scale create two major issues. A: He has marked people wrongfully as trolls, and B: he has made it a point that those who he does defend (argument wise) are, to his opinion, bigger trolls. There is so much inconsistency in how he deals with the community that doesn't make him a good admin.  Vincent Evan  [Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 21:25, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 6) After looking at certain contributions, I am shocked by the fact that you have indeed gone to certain lengths that are not acceptable as admin. For normal users, they are neither and many blocks may follow these changes.  Shadow  Talk  21:29, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 7) per dandy, lau, and misery, as well as my own disappointing interactions with him. Danny 21:31, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Neutral

 * 1) Though having a list of solid contributions, he has been involved with Minion in a pretty negative way. I think he will support the community well, but I doubt about some issues. Nothing personal.  Shadow   Talk  13:03, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) While he does provide a ton of contributions for the community, I feel he has issues when it comes to handling conflict, specifically those involved with his friends. If things turn around in the future I'd have no problem changing my vote to support, until then I'm neutral.  RąʂKɭɘş  ♣  14/f/japan  13:21, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) If he hadn't done crap like this (along with a bunch of other stuff attacking Lau) in response to Minion's block, this would have been an easy decision for me. As of now, I don't feel totally confident that he would stop acting out of emotion as he did. Otherwise, I think he would be a very good admin. -- Jai  .  -  13:31, January 25 2012 (UTC)
 * 4) On one hand, he's been willing to help even with the not-so-glamorous-or-fun image tagging and it's certainly noteworthy that he has no block log. He's got a fairly level head for someone who's been here for so long. On the other, I am slightly worried about him having access to vote removal, especially given Lau's 4th link. --  Toraen   confer  16:55, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 5) An interest in admin tools doesn't make him a good choice for admin. I don't see a stand-out quality that qualifies him as an admin, and I don't really think the wiki needs another admin. That being said, I don't see anything necessarily wrong with him being promoted. &mdash; Skakid  Rally- kupo! [[Image:S9M.png]] 20:09, 25 January 2012 (UTC)