PvXwiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 5

WTF


Anyone gets it?Ereanor 20:45, 1 August 2007 (CEST)


 * yeah, it's a crappy IW build. &mdash; RAWR! [[Image:Skasig.jpg|19px]] Skakid9090 20:46, 1 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Removed those, with the reason of wtf? Readem (talk *pvxcontribs ) 20:49, 1 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Restored vote removed by Readem. gcardinal 22:57, 1 August 2007 (CEST)

Catergory Changing
Is there any way to automatically change the category when there are 5 votes and the overrall rating gets changed to trash/other/good/great? Misfate 06:00, 7 August 2007 (CEST)

Nope. GCard said to hard. -- frvwfr2  (talk · contributions) 06:03, 7 August 2007 (CEST)


 * It's on our ToDo list, but it's tricky indeed do don't expect it to happen too soon, sorry. –&thinsp;H HHIPPO  &thinsp;&lsaquo;sysop &rsaquo; 09:53, 7 August 2007 (CEST)

Another Round of Deletions
Ahoy, slightly more than 2 weeks ago I moved all of the "abandoned" builds into the trash section. Considering there are a few hundreds builds that need to be deleted, I was wondering if it is possible to run that script we used before to get rid of them all. Though, I took a sample (I was stupid not to have written this down while I was trashing them) and quite a lot of them have discussion pages, though very few have ratings. If it's possible to change the script slightly to delete this ridiculous number of builds, it would be a lot easier than deleting each one manually. Garrik Fel 06:07, 7 August 2007 (CEST)


 * We're currently testing a new special page and a modified script to handle the expired grace periods. Will be installed in the next days. I'm afraid discussion pages will have to be checked manually, since they might contain requests for moving the build to user space. –&thinsp;H HHIPPO  &thinsp;&lsaquo;sysop &rsaquo; 09:59, 7 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Special:GraceExpired is up now. In the next days we will run a script that will delete all trash builds that have no ratings and no talk page (that's about 180 builds). –&thinsp;H HHIPPO  &thinsp;&lsaquo;sysop &rsaquo; 23:27, 8 August 2007 (CEST)

Played Tournament Builds
How about extracting builds from and converting into real thing? Maybe with a few comment on the usage and things like that? part for guide project ? gcardinal 11:48, 11 August 2007 (CEST)
 * User:Hikari created [dV]'s build from the July tournament I believe. Auron asked him to rename it to Archive:Team - E-Denial Hex Pressure. As Hikari states on the talk page, we have all of the builds used in our 'Great' section. Do you mean to document the team builds that the top competitors use in the tourneys? - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] Krowman   20:50, 11 August 2007 (CEST)

Hero Builds
One of PvXwiki's greatest weaknesses is the appalling lack of Hero builds. A great number of my friends from my previous guilds have commented on this. I'll be submitting a few in the next couple of days but this is an area we need a lot of work done.  —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ  〚 ₮ /ḉ/ Д 〛 14:55, 16 August 2007 (CEST)

Trial stage
How long a build should remain at the trial stage, if no one wants to discuss it? --Lumenil 12:11, 21 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Essentially, the Trial phase was intended primarily so that authors could, if they like, get some feedback prior to the actually voting period. As such, the Trial phase is entirely optional, and it is pretty much entirely up to the author.  [[Image:Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  19:46, 21 August 2007 (CEST)

Editing Help
Where can i find help on the language we use in editing? And how do we do a header in user page?--Hroatgar 23:42, 26 August 2007 (CEST)

Anyone can help me?--Hroatgar 18:50, 27 August 2007 (CEST)


 * What do you mean by "language used in editing?" Code-wise you mean, to make a fancy-schmancy userpage or whatnot?  —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ  〚 ŞƳŞŌƤ 〛 23:14, 27 August 2007 (CEST)
 * do you mean english? or possibly this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editing_guide ? any help?--Coloneh 03:26, 28 August 2007 (CEST)
 * No its ok i found it by myself its like HTML but whit template. Thank you anyway.--Hroatgar 04:35, 28 August 2007 (CEST)

Help needed
Please check out and do what you can to make database up to date with all GW:EN skills. We need:
 * Complete gwBBcode skill database.
 * Icons (full size as the one we have now) with names corresponding with skill ID.

Please do what you can, we need this fast! gcardinal 18:44, 31 August 2007 (CEST)


 * How do I update the database or what can I do in general?  —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ  〚 ŞƳŞŌƤ 〛 18:56, 31 August 2007 (CEST)


 * Also, on MSN if you want to explain to me what needs to be done.  —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ  〚 ŞƳŞŌƤ 〛 19:00, 31 August 2007 (CEST)
 * GW:EN 100 skills added . Please check for errors. gcardinal 11:22, 1 September 2007 (CEST)


 * Ebon assassin skill not listed:- See build

[build prof=Rt/Mo name="M Bison Defeating by Servant of Glaaki (Not Argo)" pro=3 com=12 cha=9 spa=9][Pain][Wanderlust][Vampirism][Shadowsong][Painful Bond][Boon of Creation][Summon Spirits (Kurzick)][Unknown skill id 2235][/build]
 * Umm... theres no PvE skills, cuz they are near worhtless, but will be added. The guy just wanted to get it out quick. [[Image:User Frvwfr2 signature.jpg|User:Frvwfr2]] frvwfr2  (T/C/Sysop) 00:29, 3 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Umm... theres no PvE skills, cuz they are near worhtless, but will be added. The guy just wanted to get it out quick. [[Image:User Frvwfr2 signature.jpg|User:Frvwfr2]] frvwfr2  (T/C/Sysop) 00:29, 3 September 2007 (CEST)

Searching builds by skill
Is there an easy way to find all the builds which contain a specific skill?

For example I want to find all the builds using the elite skill "Lightning Surge" as it is the only elite I have.

Using the search box is not particularly helpful for this as it doesn't seem to do literal searches. Bonsai nine 09:26, 3 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Type the skill in the search, click search, set the namespace to build. That should do it. --Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me /sysop 09:28, 3 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Although it does give a lot of results with just words that happen to be in the skills name in them... :/ --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me /sysop 09:31, 3 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Oh well, I'll resort to using google site search instead, e.g. http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site:www.pvxwiki.com+lightning-surge+good-build Bonsai nine 18:14, 3 September 2007 (CEST)

A build search system is being worked on by Gcardinal and Hhippo. <font color=>—ǥrɩɳsɧ <font color=>ƿoɲ  〚〛 23:46, 3 September 2007 (CEST)

Dungeon builds or guides?
After beating a dungeon, I got to thinking... should I write our build up as it was, with a few tweaks, and submit it as a build, or should we have a guide for each dungeon (listing the challenges posed, like enemy skills to watch out for, enemy spawn locations, and dangerous terrain) and let people decide specifics for themselves? (If such a project is already started, I'd like to pitch in, I just haven't found any such projects yet). - Auron 15:17, 8 September 2007 (CEST)

Dungeon guides seems like more of a GWiki kind of thing, a build article could also outline options and leave room for variants. Tycn 15:21, 8 September 2007 (CEST)
 * In principle it's a GuildWiki thing. But they don't seem to have much there and, more important, they refuse to include links to builds. So it would indeed be nice to start such guides here, with links from the guides to suitable builds and from that builds to the guides.
 * Furthermore, such guides could also be useful for missions and other key parts of PvE. In that case it would be nice if we could keep some builds that are available to players at that point of the game, even if they are inferior to builds that are accessible later. To that end we could either have a new category for something like 'Guide builds', or extend our (currently unwritten) criteria for archiving builds and use that category. –&thinsp;<font color="darkblue" face="times">H HHIPPO  &thinsp;&lsaquo;<font color="blue" size="-2">sysop &rsaquo; 15:56, 8 September 2007 (CEST)
 * I like the dungeon guide/build idea, but don't like the suboptimal early PvE build idea. Early PvE is just so easy, that it shouldn't really matter. [[Image:User Frvwfr2 signature.jpg|User:Frvwfr2]] <font color=#6e8b3d>frvwfr2  (T/C/Sysop)
 * Well, it's probably not urgently needed, but it wouldn't hurt either. So if anyone submits such builds, why not. –&thinsp;<font color="darkblue" face="times">H HHIPPO  &thinsp;&lsaquo;<font color="blue" size="-2">sysop &rsaquo; 17:02, 8 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Because it's really just another excuse to vet a bad build. Only times I get wiped in PvE are against those unexpected fire nuker bosses. A similar project to this was discussed about 1 1/2 months ago above on this page . Still think it would be a good set of guides to host. - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   18:28, 8 September 2007 (CEST)

Monday, I'll have Portal:Player versus Enviroment up and ready to go with spaces for guides and builds for all of the dungeons in GW:EN. We have to decide upon this issue now before the first steps are taken to fill in the guides.  —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ  〚 ŞƳŞŌƤ 〛 18:46, 8 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Dungeon guides are quite a good idea. Also, perhaps we should add a Dungeon section to PvE builds. --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me /sysop 18:51, 8 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Create a section with links (even if they're red) to the dungeon guides for GW:EN, and the regular missions for all the chapters, and we can fill them in once your draft is up. - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   18:52, 8 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Perhaps that should be put in a subpage of the main portal or divided into one portal for Proph, one for EotN, one for Factions, one for NF, or something, because every single mission and every single dungeon is going to take up a lot of space in that portal. --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me /sysop 18:56, 8 September 2007 (CEST)
 * I was thinking of Portal:PvE be more for Elite Missions and Dungeons than for things like "Kodonur Crossroads" or something.  —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ  〚 ŞƳŞŌƤ 〛 18:58, 8 September 2007 (CEST)

SOD and Bannings
I am making a request to have all SOD related pages, including discussions about the guild, removed from this wiki. I further request to have the bannings of Napalm Flame and Nova removed. AS per policy, Guild pages should not be here. If the PvX guild needs deleted also, so be it. I'd like opions on this, please. Bluemilkman 02:34, 10 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Remove ban for what? And people are allowed to make guild pages in their userspace. Єяøהħ 02:38, 10 September 2007 (CEST)
 * I'm pretty sure last time this was discussed consensus was that guild pages in Userspace are fine. Even if not, only User:Ibreaktoilets/SoD would need to be removed. Why is Napalm's ban even remotely contestable? One could reasonably disagree with Nova's ban, perhaps, but Napalm's was inarguably deserved, I thought. --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me /sysop 02:40, 10 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Also it was requested by Napalm. But yes, Nova's is arguable. Єяøהħ 02:41, 10 September 2007 (CEST)

When a guild causes mass chaos on a Buildwiki, something needs to be done, and as Napalms and Nova's ban came about as a result of that guild, they should be unbanned. Nova should not have been banned in the first place. P.S. I hate indents. Bluemilkman 02:46, 10 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Nova and to a lesser extent Napalm are the ones who caused the "chaos". --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me /sysop 02:48, 10 September 2007 (CEST)
 * It's not the guilds fault, its cuz of NPA, etc. on here... [[Image:User Frvwfr2 signature.jpg|User:Frvwfr2]] <font color=#6e8b3d>frvwfr2  (T/C/Sysop) 02:50, 10 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Napalm still violated policies and asked for the ban, weather it was Build related or not.
 * Nova's is arguable, so argue if you disagree. Єяøהħ 02:51, 10 September 2007 (CEST)
 * We don't remove bans arbitrarily. They broke policy, they got banned.
 * Edrama is everywhere. Edrama is, basically, an inextricable element of PvP. People rage, people burn bridges, and people make enemies; that's how it goes. I don't see the point or value in disallowing mention of a specific guild. All users involved need to grow up.
 * Also, I support Nova's ban. - Auron 02:53, 10 September 2007 (CEST)

SoD did nothing. Napalm+ibreaktoilets got into an argument ingame. ibreaktoilets kicked Napalm out of guild causing Napalm to post banme's. And then Napalm got banned and then Nova stepped in and told Grinch to grow up, Making lots and lots of QQ+chaos. Now Rawr left. Misfate 03:17, 10 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Nah, rawr is at his gf's for the weekend. [[Image:User Frvwfr2 signature.jpg|User:Frvwfr2]] <font color=#6e8b3d>frvwfr2  (T/C/Sysop) 03:19, 10 September 2007 (CEST)
 * He said he was leaving the wiki... --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me /sysop 03:20, 10 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Where?? [[Image:User Frvwfr2 signature.jpg|User:Frvwfr2]] <font color=#6e8b3d>frvwfr2  (T/C/Sysop) 03:23, 10 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Rawr's talk page. [[Image:Shield_of_Deflection.jpg|User:Misfate|19px]] Misfate 03:23, 10 September 2007 (CEST)

More Work To Be Done: EoTN
For anyone who has some extra time on their hands, we need people to start looking through the various tested and untested categories to identify EoTN builds for EoTN or which use EoTN skills and affix to those builds. *Defiant Elements*  +talk  21:42, 11 September 2007 (CEST)

Wtf???
Umm, rezz sig is a pic of a muffin, but GCard is the only one who has edited it... More errors than that too. <font color=#6e8b3d>frvwfr2  (T/C/Sysop) 22:03, 11 September 2007 (CEST)
 * What? Where? –&thinsp;<font color="darkblue" face="times">H HHIPPO  &thinsp;&lsaquo;<font color="blue" size="-2">sysop &rsaquo; 22:33, 11 September 2007 (CEST)
 * http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Rawrawr_Dinosaur#i_xplain Here], a few minutes ago it was muffins in the rezz sig spots... Wish I had screened... Will if I see it again. [[Image:User Frvwfr2 signature.jpg|User:Frvwfr2]] <font color=#6e8b3d>frvwfr2  (T/C/Sysop) 22:40, 11 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Ibreaktoilets was uploading stuff over our images, Thumbs up down and sideways got protected considering how many pages that affected, and I protected Res after restoring to origonal. Єяøהħ 23:11, 11 September 2007 (CEST)
 * You should have seen the the Untested Template glitch :/. Whole server was down, before I RV and protected lulz. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 23:35, 11 September 2007 (CEST)
 * What page was that? –&thinsp;<font color="darkblue" face="times">H HHIPPO  &thinsp;&lsaquo;<font color="blue" size="-2">sysop &rsaquo; 23:52, 11 September 2007 (CEST)

Secondary Profession
Ive seen a few build with a secondary monk/ritualist only for a perma rez, and while I know it does make the build better, it makes it much harder to find what your looking for while browsing through builds. I think we need some sort of guideline on wether a perma-rez is reason enough to switch a build from /Any to /Rt or /Mo.--Coloneh 06:42, 17 September 2007 (CEST)
 * anyone have a thought on this?--Coloneh 22:43, 4 October 2007 (CEST)
 * I have mixed feelings on this. While sticking /rt or /mo on any random /any build for a hard res is retarded, in some cases(i.e. mesmers), Res Chant or FoMF is probably the only reason you're not /E with GoLE or something similar. For another example, an axe warrior that's W/Rt for DPS would be fine with me, because if you weren't bringing DPS, you'd go W/E or W/D. In addition, builds that are almost exclusively ran as /Rt or /Mo for DPS or FoMF or Res Chant should, imo, be stored as such. --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me /sysop 23:17, 4 October 2007 (CEST)
 * If the build is made worse by going /mo or /rt for a hard res, we should point it out as such so it can bring res sig instead. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 02:49, 5 October 2007 (CEST)