Archive talk:Team - TA Physical Balanced Redux

zzz will finish later. Have to go social grind and like 8 new show seasons are starting tonight. --Dark0805 ( Rant /Contributions ) 19:35, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

bumppppppp. --Dark0805 ( Rant /Contributions ) 12:51, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
 * i approve of your use of my terrible mes bar —Tab  McPiplup  ツ  16:55, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I thought, "needz moar mes shutdown. (second pause) pblock. (second pause). tab is sexified gold." --Dark0805 ( Rant /Contributions ) 19:00, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I'd add Black-out --great skill that can be used offensively and defensivly-- instead of ether and drain + Waste not want not for E management (after black out)MrBArtel 02:14, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

Needs more 3 w/r with erf shakur and d shot--75.94.77.148 16:55, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Or maybe not. Brandnew.  16:56, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Lolz p-block-- Shadow [[Image:Relyk Sig.gif]] 21:21, 27 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I run Pblock on the wars instead-- Get Your Wood On  Discuss  21:34, 27 September 2008 (EDT)

The Build
I like it, and i am very surprised. Half the shit on this wiki makes me urk on the inside, but when i saw this a little warm glowing light went on inside and made me very happy. Being an avid fan of mesmers i must say, that bar is quite delicious. Isnpire VoR and throw it back at them! OWNED. I dont know how many of you guys play mesmer, but scoring a Pblock on some whore is possibly THE MOST satisfying experience in Guild Wars. This build is manly. Its not pussy like def builds and not gay like conjure whores. Its just fucking awesome. Mad phat ineruptz and shutdown to make the enemy cry themselves to death. Dont even have to test this to tell you it will rape. 20:54, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Its really hard to run mesmers in TA succesfully, but this seemed to fit. That bar is a very simple idea but it is great. The entire build is just an attempt at a balanced build that is specced against balanced (and all the other meta shit in TA currently). --Dark0805 ( Rant /Contributions ) 22:46, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
 * ^+1 This build... I likes it. Mesmer is sexy. MadPropz 142.177.126.180 07:21, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

Natural Stride?
Ehm why does the Monk Run NS whit all thoose Defiles and hexes and blah, should run a Dual Stance, since the team doesnt have a Necro Anti-Melee... Massive  02:37, 30 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Go Go Sprint monks!Sgt Skills 06:34, 30 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Its meant to play like an HC monk. You run around hitting patient and WoH on recharge and never stop kiting. Stride is to make kiting even better and IMS in TA is great for certain maps. --Dark0805 ( Rant /Contributions ) 07:44, 30 September 2008 (EDT)
 * IMS actually sucks like hell in TA(besides for warriors<3), once they get to you you're dead(lolhammers). Also, NS is pretty much countered the second it's getting up(grasping, defile) as it ends when hexed. Changeeee. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  10:52, 30 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Oooh, good point about grasping/dd. I'll change. What should we do? Double stance, disc. bash, or just disc.? i think disc. --Dark0805 ( Rant /Contributions ) 11:22, 30 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Just one stance + guardian. You'll need guardian because your ranger doesn't have natural stride and your mesmer doesn't have lolinstaselfheal. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  09:48, 1 October 2008 (EDT)

Mesmer bar
Is lolutilityfest. At least bring pleak, so you can spank monks. Also, ether + drain delusions is prty bad on this mesmer bar, alot better stuffs to take. —ǘŋ Ɛxɩsƫ  10:48, 30 September 2008 (EDT)
 * EDD is amazing on pretty much any bar, its nearly 3 regen off their monk and theres already enough interrupts on this bar. and its +6 (+8?) energy every 12 seconds. --Dark0805 ( Rant /Contributions ) 11:22, 30 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I'd just go shame/P-leak if you want E denial. I guess Ether phantom/drain delusions is more reliable E denial, but shame on spikes = win. P leaking guardian has a similar effect. Jonas 14:16, 30 September 2008 (EDT)
 * 8 energy like every 14 seconds isn't that great e-denial, pleak wins alot more(bringing whole blue bar down with a interupt). —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  09:46, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Already has (the team) 3 fast recharging interrupts, and pblock, and the mes bar isnt meant to be an active component of the team. Its pblock/etherDD on recharge, and spam utilities. The more skillless that bar is the easier it is for it do all the shit it should be doing. Pleak is all nerfed out also. --Dark0805 ( Rant /Contributions ) 11:06, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Actually, Ether+Drain is almost the same edenial as Leak, its about 0.1 energy/second different. Energy Management + not having to land the interrupt means its better imo. Tab 11:22, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
 * I was too lazy to do the math but that sounds right. And Pleak=not getting more energy management. Whats so great about that bar is its a mesmer with fucking WoW and an item. --Dark0805 ( Rant /Contributions ) 11:26, 1 October 2008 (EDT)

Ups, I just looked at the actual build. Take Shock or Rip if you want an axe, I prefer hammers in TA though. Tab 11:30, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Axe>Hammer when theres a pblock and double edenial. rip fails when theres p block and double edenial. shock could work and it makes pushing through a spike easier. But I wanted another ranged interrupt to roll balanced. --Dark0805 ( Rant /Contributions ) 11:37, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Axes are fine, hammers just harden me. Power Spike is much more redundant than Rip. You already have ED'd interrupts and Pblock, whereas your only enchant removal is Drain. Shock would probably be the best option if you want to stick with axe though. Tab 11:40, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
 * W/e. I like shock much more anyway. --Dark0805 ( Rant /Contributions ) 11:41, 1 October 2008 (EDT)

So this shits on balanced, but doesn't 8/10 teams play hexway instead of balanced now? Brandnew. 11:42, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
 * You have purge, ed, veil and inspired hex, so I guess... don't be bad? - Misery  Is  Friendly  [[image:Misery Dog obaby.gif|19px]] 11:43, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
 * ec me less:< Pblock+Inspired on the mes, Purge/Remove+ridiculously easy to land ints on the ranger, Veil (+Spotless) on the monk. Enough anti hex there yet? Tab 11:44, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
 * lol, nvm me. Brandnew.  11:46, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
 * I must say I'm in deep love with the boringness of your mesmer bar though. Brandnew.  11:47, 1 October 2008 (EDT)

something has gone terribly wrong...
there is a M/Rt with no hard rez >.<-- PWN3D! <>  FROGGY!   14:16, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
 * hard rez in TA nice1 Rawrawr Dinosaur 18:05, 1 October 2008 (EDT)

Rawr
How is purge//li ming//WoW//(and spotless on the monk) not enough defense for a hex-condition meta?? You can WoW//dshot(which should be stupid easy) balanced knocklocks and theres pblock for linebacking if you have to. --Dark0805 ( Rant /Contributions ) 18:06, 6 October 2008 (EDT)

Archive?
Saint 12:14, 31 January 2009 (EST)
 * anyway, nobody runs this anymore so we can achieve. --Melvelet 15:08, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * This won't win in the current meta Moomoopumpkinpai 02:32, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to Archive this
srsly those bars are so outdated. -- <font color="Black">Drah 04:15, September 8, 2009 (UTC)