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Anon vandal
I would strongly urge you not to pursue any acts that could result in the damage of this person's property, be it intellectual or otherwise. - Krowman    06:37, 7 December 2007 (CET)
 * ph33r Cedave. Misfate  06:38, 7 December 2007 (CET)
 * I don't mean to be an ass. It's just the Hyde to my Jekyll. [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] cedave (contributions_buildpage)  06:39, 7 December 2007 (CET)
 * Regardless, it's a bannable offense, at the very least. :/ -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 10:56, 8 December 2007 (CET)
 * Meh.. Ban me then. I could use a 3-day vacation. I'd be more worried about it if I was wikignoming still, but since I'm looking for an apartment, working more hours, and have deadline week coming up, it wouldn't really bother me. I'll refrain from now on, though. I'll play nice. [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] cedave (contributions_buildpage)  11:08, 8 December 2007 (CET)
 * That's all I was looking for from you, tbh. :) -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 11:20, 8 December 2007 (CET)
 * Let's just hope for both our sakes that I don't get anymore vandal-stalkers. Things might get messy then, especially if he/she catches me on another bad day. T_T [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] cedave (contributions_buildpage)  11:29, 8 December 2007 (CET)

Contest
It's an awesome-sauce contest. You should enter. &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 02:56, 10 December 2007 (CET)

AB
with me :D--Shadowsin 09:51, 11 December 2007 (CET)
 * When is you on? [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] cedave (contributions_buildpage)  03:31, 12 December 2007 (CET)
 * rite now. :D later today i suppose.. it is 4 am. here. Ign = Shadowsin XxEdit :my baed.--Shadowsin 10:13, 12 December 2007 (CET)
 * Well, I'm on central time, and I currently have no free time. This weekend I'll try to get on; best bet is like early am on friday or saturday night. I'm Cedave The Harlot normally. [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] cedave (contributions_buildpage)  08:15, 13 December 2007 (CET)
 * You r free now? :P--Shadowsin 08:17, 13 December 2007 (CET)
 * I have 4 hours before I need to be up for school. I got home from work 30 ago and I'm doing a project. T_T [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] cedave (contributions_buildpage)  08:35, 13 December 2007 (CET)
 * ._. sucks 2 b you. --Shadowsin 08:41, 13 December 2007 (CET)
 * Meh. I have my own apartment a few weeks from now, I have an amazing girlfriend, and my life is generally amazing for the shithole I pulled myself out of. But.. that's my personal life, so let's keep it out of good places and fun times. ^_^ [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] cedave <small color="#AA226D">(contributions_buildpage)  09:03, 13 December 2007 (CET)
 * ._. so it will rock to be you after 2nite :D--Shadowsin 09:13, 13 December 2007 (CET)
 * Pretty much. Except I'll need about 102948091374890571 cups of coffee to function tomorrow. Haha.. [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] <font color="#AA226D" face="times new roman" size="2">cedave <small color="#AA226D">(contributions_buildpage)  09:16, 13 December 2007 (CET)

/highfive
on new sig.--<font color="green" face="arial bold">Victory <font color="red" face="arial bold">is <font color="green" face="arial bold">Santas 19:44, 19 December 2007 (EST)
 * ty. <3 [[Image:CedaveCane.jpg|7px]] <font color="red" face="times new roman" size="2">c e d  a   v e   <small color="#AA226D">( contributions _ buildpage  )  00:20, 20 December 2007 (EST)
 * That's an epic sig. Figure out how to use it without it taking up 4+ lines of code. >.< -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 01:58, 20 December 2007 (EST)
 * The first version had 10 lines of code. Be greatful for the which you have. Besides, after Christmas, it'll be gone. Haha. [[Image:CedaveCane.jpg|7px]] <font color="red" face="times new roman" size="2">c e d  a   v e   <small color="#AA226D">( contributions _ buildpage  )  16:13, 20 December 2007 (EST)
 * Armond is greatful. You must be full of greatness in order to be an admin :P <font color="#CD2626">&not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 17:09, 20 December 2007 (EST)
 * Would that be greatnessful? [[Image:CedaveCane.jpg|7px]] <font color="red" face="times new roman" size="2">c e d  a   v e   <small color="#AA226D">( contributions _ buildpage  )  17:12, 20 December 2007 (EST)

Comp
gogo Tycn 00:36, 20 December 2007 (EST)

Your sig
Seriously, it's way too long. Take a screenie, crop it, upload it, make the image redirect to your userpage. Once you've taken out the code for all the alternating colors it'll be a ton smaller. -- Armond Warblade 02:23, 24 December 2007 (EST)
 * I swear, in two days it'll be gone. And I probably won't be contributing much seeing as it's Christmas Eve/Day. I'd do the image thing if that wasn't the fact, and if I wasn't on a fagtop that was lacking paint. [[Image:CedaveCane.jpg|7px]] <font color="red" face="times new roman" size="2">c e d  a   v e   <small color="#AA226D">( contributions _ buildpage  )  05:39, 24 December 2007 (EST)

Yay.
Sig no longer WTB banhamma. <font color="#AA226D" face="times new roman" size="2">cedave <small color="#AA226D">(contributions_buildpage)  03:31, 26 December 2007 (EST)
 * no but it it is still better than mine D: --Shadowsin

seh-dayv
Is how i read your name. Wrong?Bob fregman 15:52, 26 December 2007 (EST)
 * In English, it's just Cedave, pronounced "seh-dah-vay." On the user page. --Mafaraxas 16:55, 26 December 2007 (EST)
 * I still see it as seh-dayv.Bob fregman 17:01, 26 December 2007 (EST)
 * Well, if you want... I'm sure Cedave won't cry himself to sleep over it. (it's arabic, btw, which he also mentions on the user page) --Mafaraxas 19:05, 26 December 2007 (EST)

cedaaaaaave
if my deity killer has monkey grip can he wield his greatsword one handed :/ -- Armond Warblade 19:29, 26 December 2007 (EST)


 * That sounds reeeeeally corny.--[[Image:ViYsig5.jpg|19px]]<font color="Darkblue">Victoryisyours (<font color="Darkblue">talk /<font color="Black">RfA ) 19:30, 26 December 2007 (EST)
 * :/ Either I figure out a way for him to use a greatsword one handed or he has to use a bastard sword... -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 19:38, 26 December 2007 (EST)
 * Don't you think a bastard sword would be more appropriate? :P Lord Belar 21:05, 26 December 2007 (EST)
 * Screw flavor, greatsword does 2d6 and bastard sword does 1d10. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 22:16, 26 December 2007 (EST)
 * ...you completely missed the joke. :( Lord Belar 22:25, 26 December 2007 (EST)
 * Did not. I'm just tired enough to be allowed to ignore it. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 22:27, 26 December 2007 (EST)

That's it. I'm sick of all this "Katana" bullshit that's going on in the d20 system right now. Bastard Swords deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.

I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine Bastard Sword in Germany for 10,000 Euroes (that's about $20,000) and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid steel with my Bastard Sword.

European smiths spend years working on a single Bastard Sword and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest blades known to mankind.

Bastard Swords are thrice as sharp as Japanese swords and thrice as hard for that matter too. Anything a Daisho can cut through, a Bastard Sword can cut through better. I'm pretty sure a Bastard Sword could easily bisect a samurai wearing pieces of wood for armor with a simple horizontal slash.

Ever wonder why Japan never bothered conquering Medieval Europe? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Knights and their Bastard Swords of destruction. Even in World War II, Japanese soldiers targeted the men with the Bastard Swords first because their killing power was feared and respected.

So what am I saying? Bastard Swords are simply the best sword that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the d20 system. Here is the stat block I propose for Bastard Swords:

(One-Handed Exotic Weapon) 1d12 Damage 19-20 x4 Crit +2 to hit and damage Counts as Masterwork

(Two-Handed Exotic Weapon) 2d10 Damage 17-20 x4 Crit +5 to hit and damage Counts as Masterwork

Now that seems a lot more representative of the cutting power of Bastard Swords in real life, don't you think?

tl;dr = Bastard Swords need to do more damage in d20, see my new stat block.  —ǥrɩɳsɧƴ ƿıę  22:29, 26 December 2007 (EST)


 * NO ONE IS ANSWERING MY ORIGINAL QUESTION -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 22:33, 26 December 2007 (EST)

That's it. I'm sick of all this "Greatsword with monkey grip" bullshit that's going on in the d20 system right now. Lightsabers deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.

I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine lightsaber on Ord Mantell for 2,400,000 Imperial Credits (that's about $18) and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid steel with my lightsaber.

Jedi smiths spend years working on a single lightsaber and refocus the crystal up to a million times to produce the finest blades known to mankind.

Lightsabers are thrice as sharp as Kaminoan vibroblades and thrice as hard for that matter too. Anything a vibrosword can cut through, a lightsaber can cut through better. I'm pretty sure a lightsaber could easily bisect a Imperial Officer wearing a fetching black uniform with a simple vertical slash.

Ever wonder why the Empire never bothered conquering all known space? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Jedi and their lightsabers of destruction. Even in the Galactic Civil War, Imperial soldiers targeted the men with the lightsabers first because their killing power was feared and respected.

So what am I saying? Lightsabers are simply the best sword that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the d20 system. Here is the stat block I propose for Lightsabers:

(One-Handed Exotic Weapon) 1d12 Damage 19-20 x4 Crit +2 to hit and damage Counts as Masterwork

(Two-Handed Exotic Weapon) 2d10 Damage 17-20 x4 Crit +5 to hit and damage Counts as Masterwork

Now that seems a lot more representative of the cutting power of Lightsabers in real life, don't you think?

tl;dr = Lightsabers need to do more damage in d20, see my new stat block.  —ǥrɩɳsɧƴ ƿıę  22:36, 26 December 2007 (EST)
 * They already do 3d6+random jedi bonuses. You're nerfing them. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 22:39, 26 December 2007 (EST)

That's it. I'm sick of all this "Masterwork Transformer" bullshit that's going on in the d20 system right now. Optimus Prime deserves much better than that. Much, much better than that.

I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine copy of every episode of Transformers in Japan for 2,400,000 Yen (that's about $20,000) and have been watching them for almost 2 years now. I can even cut fanboys of solid fat with my Transformers knowledge.

Japanese smiths spend years working on a single Optimus Prime toy and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest toy known to mankind.

Optimus Prime is thrice as sharp as other Transformers and thrice as hard for that matter too. Anything Megatron can cut through, Optimus Prime can cut through better. I'm pretty sure Optimus Prime could easily bisect a Decepticon wearing full plate with a simple vertical slash.

Ever wonder why the Decepticons never bothered conquering Earth? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Autobots and their Optimus Prime of destruction. Even in World War II, Megatron targeted Optimus Prime first because his killing power was feared and respected.

So what am I saying? Optimus Prime is simply the best Transformer that the world has ever seen, and thus, requires better stats in the d20 system. Here is the stat block I propose for Optimus Prime:

(One-Handed Exotic Weapon) 1d12 Damage 19-20 x4 Crit +2 to hit and damage Counts as Masterwork

(Two-Handed Exotic Weapon) 2d10 Damage 17-20 x4 Crit +5 to hit and damage Counts as Masterwork

Now that seems a lot more representative of the cutting power of Optimus Prime in the show, don't you think?

tl;dr = Optimus Prime needs to do more damage in d20, see my new stat block.  —ǥrɩɳsɧƴ ƿıę  22:45, 26 December 2007 (EST)

WTS Stat Block spam?
So, anyway, yes Armond. You can. Monkey Grip lets you wield a Greatsword one-handed. You can also wield an off-hand or a shield, or a Tower Shield incurring normal penalties, unless you have Improved Tower Shield mastery, in which case you can the ability to use it to perform Shield Bash attacks as if it were a Huge shield, incurring normal penalties. Finally, Monkey Grip does not allow you to wield larger weapons in your off-hand, unless you have taken the Improved Weapon Mastery feat for said weapon. If so, treat such weapon as though it were one size smaller when calculating penalties. Got all that? <font color="#AA226D" face="times new roman" size="2">cedave <small color="#AA226D">(contributions_buildpage)  02:57, 27 December 2007 (EST)


 * Excellent. Looks like my guy doesn't have to cheat to get all his feats for exotic weapons. (He gets a bonus feat at first level, assuming he has weapon focus for the weapon chosen, so I took weapon focus and the bonus feat for some random martial weapon at first level and then took exotic weapon prof at third and used the Warblade's ability to change them all to the bastard sword instead of whatever martial weapon it was.) -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 07:28, 27 December 2007 (EST)
 * I only speak English and Spanish, not mindless and incomprehensible rambling. Lo siento señor. But that sounds good, so I'm gonna go with: "Nao u can hurts ppl real baed!" and "Fo' sho' nukka!" [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] <font color="#AA226D" face="times new roman" size="2">cedave <small color="#AA226D">(contributions_buildpage)  07:36, 28 December 2007 (EST)
 * Bwah hah hah. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 15:12, 29 December 2007 (EST)

Lolwut?
Shadowsin has love for meh? <font color="#AA226D" face="times new roman" size="2">cedave <small color="#AA226D">(contributions_buildpage)  01:17, 7 January 2008 (EST)
 * bwah aha hah >:D-- Shadow sin  01:18, 7 January 2008 (EST)
 * He has an unfavored on his sig for a reason :P --[[Image:Mafaraxas_sig.jpg|click moar]] <font color="black" face="calibri">Mafaraxas 03:02, 7 January 2008 (EST)

Skakid
i don't get the comment you left me about skakid... &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Matti Nuke (contribs).
 * It was sarcasm. Skakid is roxorz. Deal with it. [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] <font color="#AA226D" face="times new roman" size="2">cedave <small color="#AA226D">(contributions_buildpage)  15:47, 7 January 2008 (EST)


 * NOT REALLY NO IM RATHER BAD &mdash;  Skadiddly [슴Mc슴] Diddles  20:37, 2 March 2008 (EST)

;o
Get up pic of the trackingball keyboard plz. - Rawrawr  09:01, 7 January 2008 (EST)
 * Oh dears. Forgotted about that. I'll try to remember for tomorrow. Camera phone pictures = suck, but it should still be good enough. Especially because, if nothing else, the duct tape and other jimmy-rigging materials should give you the idea plenty. It's quite a tangly mess though. Inadvisable. Two USBs to one moving contraption. Utter fail, but hilarious to use nonetheless. [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] <font color="#AA226D" face="times new roman" size="2">cedave <small color="#AA226D">(contributions_buildpage)  15:46, 7 January 2008 (EST)

Fun Builds to Play
Needs to be a category, too. Was gonna put this on PvX:Real Vetting's talk page, but then I realized Gcard might nuke me for even suggesting adding another category. Discuss pl0x? <font color="#AA226D" face="times new roman" size="2">cedave <small color="#AA226D">(contributions_buildpage)  16:30, 7 January 2008 (EST)
 * Also, discuss [[Image:Megawatchlist.JPG]] I need to clean up WL.. [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] <font color="#AA226D" face="times new roman" size="2">cedave <small color="#AA226D">(contributions_buildpage)  16:33, 7 January 2008 (EST)
 * That's nothing imo. You should see mine after big abandoning sprees. I never remember to set it to not automatically watch them, and it makes my fingers hurt just going through checking all the little boxes >.> <font color="#CD2626">&not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 16:34, 7 January 2008 (EST)
 * Wait wait wait.. How do you automatically watch something? Lemme guess, something in preferences that I've completely overlooked/ignored? [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] <font color="#AA226D" face="times new roman" size="2">cedave <small color="#AA226D">(contributions_buildpage)  16:40, 7 January 2008 (EST)
 * Watchlist tab in preferences. Check the box that says "automatically watch pages I edit" <font color="#CD2626">&not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 16:41, 7 January 2008 (EST)
 * Actually, it really says "Add pages I edit to my watchlist" <font color="#CD2626">&not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 16:42, 7 January 2008 (EST)
 * Lulz. Figures. I never really paid attention to much of my preferences, but that makes things a lot easier, eh? [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] <font color="#AA226D" face="times new roman" size="2">cedave <small color="#AA226D">(contributions_buildpage)  16:44, 7 January 2008 (EST)
 * I have 151 <I>after</I> cleaning. You need to watch more. Lord Belar 17:46, 7 January 2008 (EST)

Thanks
Thanks, Cedave, but I think i know how wikis work and i'm very dissapointed with this. Facts:

.-I (well not me, my 11 year's old child did) submit a build

.-Five Days later is absolutlely clearly duped by another user (6 skills including Elite + Res skil = 7 duped skills)

.-Policies start being violated (you can check BM section of rawrawr talk page. He admits doing it)

.-8 days later the build my child sumbmitted, with a 4.44 clean rate that is being WELLED.

Please, i beg for your help to understand this or an admin to explain it to me. And to my child. He's crying right now. Chuki 02:23, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * Less emotional manipulation, more links to the builds in question. --71.229.204.25 02:24, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * Sorry, but cannot avoid that. It is really frustrating.:
 * http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Rt/any_Warmonger%27s_Supporter - Firstly submitted build
 * http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Rt/Mo_OoS_Hybrid_Support - Submitted Five days later
 * -- Chuki 02:31, 8 January 2008 (EST)


 * p.s rawrawr talk page: http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Rawrawr_Dinosaur#BM_Vote._.28Are_you_already_BM.3F_I_didnt_know_policy_was_approved...
 * --Chuki 02:34, 8 January 2008 (EST)


 * tbh it is a little inferior (Holy Veil is awesome and DPS is >>>>>>> Rezsig), but that's a Variants fix, not a WELL fix. You were right to remove the tag.  I'd suggest asking for a merge in your entry on the Admin Noticeboard. --71.229.204.25 02:41, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * Thanks. At least, someone sensible. Thanks for your support. Chuki 02:43, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * Unfortunately, a lot of similar builds sometimes pop up at the same time. But... I think this is possibly duping. It's hard to copy that many skills with the same functions. Albeit, the later submitted one has more utility, it should be WELL'd and Holy Veil perhaps incorporated into your build. Death Pact Signet, on the other hand, fails in small arenas. A team seeing that going off knows that two people are dead once they drop the already DP-suffering target. I don't really know how it wound up in Great for RA/TA with that skill on the bar, other than it's utility-heavy front. [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] <font color="#AA226D" face="times new roman" size="2">cedave <small color="#AA226D">(contributions_buildpage)  16:14, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * Mid-posting that last comment - I still chose to post it due to the ideas that came across - I've decided that it isn't duping. Brief question to a guild member settled that one. But.. I'll still have to look at both the builds. I'm not a fan of Life, nor am I a fan of Death Pact in arenas. Perhaps we should look into trading life for a different more Utility-oriented skill. Unfortunately, the only reasonable option that I can think of at this point is Blood Ritual, seeing as if you happen to be accompanied by another Ritualist or Monk, or any other caster for that matter, they would certainly be infinitely glad to see that cast when energy is needed. Then again, saccing skills are alwasy dangerous in small PvP. I'll think on it, and if anyone has ideas, feel free to chime in. [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] <font color="#AA226D" face="times new roman" size="2">cedave <small color="#AA226D">(contributions_buildpage)  16:14, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * Strength of Honor. --71.229 18:26, 8 January 2008 (EST)

The lulz...
Have been compromised..-- Shadow sin  16:22, 8 January 2008 (EST)

que?-- «º¤¥Ω☼Vør <font color="Darkgreen">råx☼Ω¥¤º» 16:23, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * must be on the inside to understand o.o.-- Shadow sin  16:25, 8 January 2008 (EST)

im inside my house and i dont understand ur logic phails...-- «º¤¥Ω☼Vør <font color="Darkgreen">råx☼Ω¥¤º» 16:27, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * lrn to undertand moar then.-- Shadow sin  16:30, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * They hazn't been compromised yet. Grinch and DE still need in on it. But yeh, looks like teh lulz got compromized. [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] <font color="#AA226D" face="times new roman" size="2">cedave <small color="#AA226D">(contributions_buildpage)  16:39, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * u r fial? -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 16:53, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * I r not fial. I no not wut fial mean. [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] <font color="#AA226D" face="times new roman" size="2">cedave <small color="#AA226D">(contributions_buildpage)  17:00, 8 January 2008 (EST)

it means fial -- Vør <font color="Darkgreen">rax 17:01, 8 January 2008 (EST) lulz... xD-- Shadow sin  17:01, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * indents = non-fukkup, Shadow. Also, fiel in spanish means trustworthy. Is that what you're goin' for there? [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] <font color="#AA226D" face="times new roman" size="2">cedave <small color="#AA226D">(contributions_buildpage)  17:09, 8 January 2008 (EST)

u fial and no one here speaks spanish(dont pay any attention to the first thing i said under this title thingy or watever its called) Vør <font color="Darkgreen">rax 17:16, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * Qeu, tu est bete mon ami, arrete sil'tu plait.-- Shadow sin  17:19, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * Yo hablo español debuti. Y algo de francés. Jejeje ;-). Cedave, tío, vaya pedazo de discusión más tonta en el admin noticeboard... joder... si ya estaba todo liquidado con la decisión de Armond... oye que te agradezco mucho el interés que tomas por mantener la wiki "limpia". Can translate if you eant ;-p Chuki 17:51, 8 January 2008 (EST).
 * Meh.. my translator's not great, but:
 * "I speak Spanish debuti. And something of French. Jejeje;-). Cedave, uncle, goes piece of more dumb discussion in the admin noticeboard ... fuck ... if it was already quite liquidated by the decision of Armond ... I am grateful to you very much for the interest that you take to support the "clean" wiki."
 * Lord Belar 17:59, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * All I remember of Spanish is how to call your mother a whore and say you have a tiny dick. Also, I lol'd at fuck being a verb. --71.229 18:00, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * Fuck's a verb in english, too. :P Lord Belar 18:01, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * Yeah, but it's not as funny when you point that out. Fucker. ): --18:03, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * lolz!!!! Not a bad translator Lord Belar.... Debuti = Cool and Tío = Dude (Uncle!!! yeah it also means uncle!!!!
 * 71.229, you only need to know one more: "Una cerveza, por favor!" ;-p Chuki 18:04, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * Tus bragas, por favor. :P --71.229 18:05, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * It's official: firefox pwns you. :P Lord Belar 18:06, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * Chingar also means to fuck, kinda. Also, machine translation ftl. Thanks, Chuki. Rapta and me have a long history of conflicts like this, and it seems to have largely accumulated here. Two very similar builds, with slightly different playstyles that he doesn't seem to want to acknowledge, and a bias towards Rawr for some reason, or what's coming off as such. Your build won't be WELL'd so long as I'm around. And I promise, if it does get WELL'd or flame-rated, I will QQ PvX. There's plenty of fight on each side, and certainly neither is gaining ground. imnsho, Rapta needs to back the fuck down and admit that they're two different builds. Both deserve their place, or at least, the later-posted should be merged with yours. I'm probably going to take the night off here, soon, but I'll be back on later I'm sure, and if nothing else I'll be back by tomorrow. (EC big time) Also, "Un trago mas, ahorita!" is more appropriate. [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] <font color="#AA226D" face="times new roman" size="2">cedave <small color="#AA226D">(contributions_buildpage)  18:06, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * One more gulp, now? I'm assuming it got translated wrong. :P Lord Belar 18:09, 8 January 2008 (EST)


 * So now everyone here knows how to buy beer, solicit sex, and get your ass beaten in any Spanish-speaking country. Don't say we never did anything for you. --71.229
 * Oh? Mind compiling a list? :P Lord Belar 18:09, 8 January 2008 (EST)\
 * Una cerveza, por favor! = A beer, please!
 * Or: Un trago mas, ahorita!
 * Tus bragas, por favor. = Your pants, please. (to a woman)
 * Or: Tus calzoncillos, por favor. = Your pants, please. (to a man)
 * Tu madre es una puta. = Your mother is a whore. (rough)
 * Tienes un pene pequeno. = You have a tiny penis. (rough)
 * And you're set! --71.229 18:13, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * Cool! Now I can go to mexico, or talk to local construction workers! Or the annoying hispanic kids at school who refuse to speak english. :P Lord Belar 18:17, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * Remember to bring a video camera. --71.229 18:19, 8 January 2008 (EST)


 * lolz!!!! = !Me parto el culo!!! - I broke my ass = lotslotslots of laught that make my ass broken


 * Se me saltan las lágrimas, cedave, tío, con tu último comentario. Eres la ostia, tronco. (This is one of the best things you can say anybody - something like: you are, so, so, fucking good people, dude. Chuki 18:26, 8 January 2008 (EST)

Better: And btw. Thanks Chuki. ^_^ <font color="#AA226D" face="times new roman" size="2">cedave  <small color="#AA226D">(contributions_buildpage)  18:27, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * Otro trago, ahorita! = Another (drink of whatever you were drinking), quickly/now!
 * Una cerveza, por favor! = One beer please!
 * Quieres cogerme? = Wanna fuck me?
 * Cuanto cuesta coger? = How much does a fuck cost?
 * Chingate, putito, y dile a tu madre que chinguese = Fuck you, you little fag, and tell your mother to fuck herself.
 * Eres maricon = You're a flaming faggot.
 * Dame tu mujer, veyendo que no puedes usarla, penito = Give me your woman, seeing as you can use her, Mr. Little Dick.

Btw. I've had 14 EC's editing my own Talk Page. Goddamn I'm popular today. <font color="#AA226D" face="times new roman" size="2">cedave <small color="#AA226D">(contributions_buildpage)  18:28, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * I like the straightforward half-literate gringo approach better to be honest. --71.229 18:31, 8 January 2008 (EST) so that's how you call someone a faggot in spanish, eh?
 * That's like saying you like IWAY or Furry porn. [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] <font color="#AA226D" face="times new roman" size="2">cedave <small color="#AA226D">(contributions_buildpage)  18:37, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * You like IWAY and furry porn. ): --71.229 18:39, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * I like IWAY, but not furry porn. [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] <font color="#AA226D" face="times new roman" size="2">cedave <small color="#AA226D">(contributions_buildpage)  22:54, 8 January 2008 (EST)

Build Issue Resolution?

 * (damn EC's) They are the same build, and that's what you should realize before being able to vote effectively. However, you can go ahead and argue this all you'd like, provided that you can support your points effectively. That last point is the difference between good and bad build debates. Too often do I see people arguing for a build on an entirely false premise, and this is beginning to go down that line. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 18:10, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * My biggest reason for stepping in is Rawr's invalid vote, followed by your attempted WELL. You know me by now Rapta, and you know I'll fight for anyone who can't fight for themselves, or for any thing that deserves fighting for. You know my points, I know yours, and in the end, I think it comes down to a merge to the first build, or a separation of the two as different builds. One is more caster support, containing Hex Removal, while the other is survival-focused, containing AoE heal/sac prevention. [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] <font color="#AA226D" face="times new roman" size="2">cedave <small color="#AA226D">(contributions_buildpage)  18:17, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * Yes, that'll be an argument for the plethora of newbies coming to this wiki and arguing that by grabbing any build, change one skill, and submitting it, leads to a favored build. Maybe people should get started on that new WoH build variant with Cure Hex instead of Holy Veil. I heard it encourages people to heal for more and spend less time microing Veils. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 18:28, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * Can we try to keep this to one page? If people are looking for excuses to change one skill and submit it as a great build, they can look at the ranger builds. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 18:35, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * Another EC.. Taking it to the other board. Magebane vs BHA ftw... [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] <font color="#AA226D" face="times new roman" size="2">cedave <small color="#AA226D">(contributions_buildpage)  18:36, 8 January 2008 (EST)

It seems it is not....
.... Chuki 18:24, 9 January 2008 (EST)
 * The delete tag says the two builds are being merged; weren't you fine with that? --[[Image:Mafaraxas_sig.jpg|click moar]] <font color="black" face="calibri">Mafaraxas 18:26, 9 January 2008 (EST)
 * Well... rapta and skakid revote their already removed by an admin votes, took the build down to good builds, just inmediatly merge the "inferior" build into their own build and make the merge. the merge is just the skill bar that the "superior" build had. I were fine with a merge, not with a trolling - vandalism - do_what_i_want_cause_pvxwiki_is_mine. That sucks. Chuki 18:35, 9 January 2008 (EST)

Didn't I ban you on the 8th for a week? -- Armond Warblade 19:36, 9 January 2008 (EST)

Thanks again
Cedave, what can I say.... I don't know how to express how grateful I am because of your help. I hugely appreciate all your effort and you massive waste of energy to defend my cause. It faded from being my crusade to be your crusade. Thanks. I haven't done a so vehement defense even if i had spoken english like Shakespeare. I wouldn't be able to do a so crushing arguments even if i had been a democrat candidate. Thanks again. Thanks for believe in me. Please, don't hesitate to ask for any help or any other thing you need to. Gracias amigo. Chuki 02:33, 10 January 2008 (EST)

You
are not allowed to leave. ...Bitch. XD -- Armond Warblade 00:02, 5 February 2008 (EST)
 * PW:NPA &mdash;  Skadiddly [슴Mc슴] Diddles  00:03, 5 February 2008 (EST)
 * NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUuu... Wut armond said! >:O-- Shadow sin  00:05, 5 February 2008 (EST)


 * Friggin lame. You better actually show up again in the summer. --[[Image:Mafaraxas_sig.jpg|click moar]] <font color="black" face="calibri">Mafaraxas  00:15, 5 February 2008 (EST)


 * My leaving is a massive culmination of things, most of which many of you know, have heard about, or have been involved in. Also, it has to do with a large lack of time on my part. High school + practically full time work + girlfriend + friends leaves me little time to spend putting forth futile efforts into the things that I truly believe in or trolling user pages. I'm not leaving for good. This is simply me saying that I'm retiring from active duty. Another very large factor in my leaving is that, quite simply, most of what we have on this site is just wrong. Meta doesn't belong on here, nor should it be meta, if a single N/Me can counter anything that meta throws at it, which, if you hadn't guessed, is something that I'd come to realize recently through experimentation. That's not to say that I don't love this site, or that I don't think that this site has any worth, but that I think that the way things are run here isn't for me. Neither the Toucher, SP, nor BA/BHA Rangers have ever been very good, beyond allowing rather unskilled players an easy way to apply not-so-great pressure. I think that pretty much sums up more than half of what I have to say about the policies, so I won't bore you with too much more text or details. Having berated all that I needed to, I'd like to end this on a good note: I've loved my time here, and I've had great fun for the most part. I love all the people I've met here. Even Rapta. I just simply think I'd prefer to keep my acquaintances with those I've met here in a place where my bureaucratic views and admonitions won't clash with the common. I hope most of you decide to keep in touch with me through alternative methods. ^_^ [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] <font color="#AA226D" face="times new roman" size="2">cedave <small color="#AA226D">(contributions_buildpage)  00:31, 5 February 2008 (EST)


 * BAs are epic pressure (dshot) &mdash;  Skadiddly [슴Mc슴] Diddles  00:32, 5 February 2008 (EST)
 * BHA is utter trash, i tried it, you cant even reduce the arc with 4x arrow speed, it almost always misses decent players.-- Shadow sin [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG]] 00:47, 5 February 2008 (EST)
 * BHA does suck, though I've had a lot of fun with BA in FA. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 00:54, 5 February 2008 (EST)

Wut? You can't leave, you have to take care of my unborn child (*gasp!*)! You have a family to feed (*slap!*)! NOOOOO!!! MY BABY!!!!! (This epic ownsome pwnsome soup opera brough to you by -- Guild of  Deals  17:09, 10 February 2008 (EST))