Archive talk:Mo/R Dwarven Deliverance

Anyone know why this doesn't have a template code? -- Lann 14:33, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Because someone forgot to make it Mo/R. Anyways, you need Deldrimor r9 to near-upkeep SQ v_v -- Come visit [[Image:Infidel sig.JPG]] my grass shack!  14:45, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Its not that hard to get to 8 or 9. HM Dungeon runs or just completing the book and turning it in will get you to 7 and near 8. --[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px|19px]] Lann 14:47, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * interesting, but ultimately inferior. If you wanna do the party-wide heal thing, healer's boon + heal party.  --Thc 14:51, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * You can't spam heal party. --[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px|19px]] Lann 14:55, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Unless you bring a bip :3 -- Sazzy  15:26, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * And were does your energy comes from? :3 --  Super Igor  *ninja!!*  15:37, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * That would be a team build sazzy. And 5 energy spells? --[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px|19px]] Lann 15:54, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * 3, 5 energy spells compared to 1, 15e spell. --[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px|19px]] Lann 15:55, 27 June 2008 (EDT)


 * ofc u can spam HP. GolE, divine spirit should be more than enough. --Thc 16:24, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * thats not spamming. That is just using them 2 times in a row every 30 seconds, and the latter only reduces cost to 10e every 60 seconds. --[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px|19px]] Lann 16:25, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * It's PvE, so your whole team shouldn't be taking damage; only your frontliners should. In an organized group, party heals aren't that important, and a couple strong heals (HB+Heal Party) will be better than a lot of small heals. With Heroes and Henchmen, however, this should be work fine, because they're pretty reckless, tbh. ــмıкε  нaшк  16:56, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * This is a single build. Not an organized pve team build where skills have to play together. --[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px|19px]] Lann 17:19, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I understand that, but you still play with a team. The efficiency of your heals depends on how bad the rest of your team is (Heroes and Henchmen are bad, and you'll really benefit from the party-wide heals) and the area that you're taking this to (if it's mostly physicals, you don't have to worry too much about AoE). This will still work with a good group, but it'll really shine when every team member is being hit (which also isn't too uncommon). ــмıкε  нaшк  17:25, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

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Why 3 partyheals? One that is spammable like fuck with 40/40 heal and serpent's quickness should be enough imo, or you're doing it wrong. Also, SoA owns. —ǘŋ Ɛxɩsƫ  17:41, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * You cant put SoA on everyone. And this works well to counter stuff like burning and areas with lots of eles that use aoe. --[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px|19px]] Lann 18:21, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Sacnoth Valley, Catacombs of Kathandrax --[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px|19px]] Lann 18:23, 27 June 2008 (EDT)


 * NOT EVERY BUILD WORKS IN EVERY SITUATION THIS ONE IS FOR PLACES WITH HIGH PARTY DAMAGE WOW THAT WAS PRETTY HARD TO FIGURE OUT NOW WASNT IT. &mdash;  Skakid  18:25, 27 June 2008 (EDT)


 * ALSO PARTY-WIDE HEALING WINS IN PVE HARD TO FIGURE OUT WASNT IT. --  Super Igor  *ninja!!*  18:26, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * lol. --[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px|19px]] Lann 18:27, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * "GUILD WARS IS A GIANT GAME OF ROCK-PAPER-SCISSORS. THERE IS NO ONE BUILD THAT WORKS IN EVERY SITUATION!"  --[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px|19px]] Lann 18:28, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Also, this is meant to run with a Heal/protect hybrid. Such as WoH/SoA. --[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px|19px]] Lann 18:34, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Chuck Norris wins everywhere. I don't really care for Hybrids in PvE; just run a couple Healers and an Imbagon, tbh. ــмıкε  нaшк  18:39, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * yeah 2 of these and an imba gon would work too --[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px|19px]] Lann 18:42, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * While imbagon is leet, u say it as if they're as easy to find as ursans. -- Sazzy  19:10, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Hes talking about build teams sooooooooo im guessing its with a team. --[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px|19px]] Lann 19:15, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I'm usually the one playing the Imbagon. XD ــмıкε  нaшк  19:28, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * (EC)Team builds with a team :o ?! U serious? -- Sazzy  19:28, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * amagash :o --  Super Igor  *ninja!!*  19:33, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Team builds usually = with people you know. --[[Image:Lann-sf2.jpg|19px|19px]] Lann 19:32, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * You're shitting me right :o ? -- Sazzy  19:36, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Hmm...
Wonder if it would work decently well on heroes if you drop out DS. Still able to spam some party healing. --Guild of Deals * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 20:16, 29 June 2008 (EDT)
 * You'd want to micro Serpent's Quickness for when you need it, but other than that, I'm sure it'll work fine although they probably won't be using the party heals excessively. I don't really care for taking Monk Heroes, though. ــмıкε  нaшк  21:57, 29 June 2008 (EDT)

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I don't think so, UA is great and all but, you can't spam party heals every 3, 7.5 and again 7.5 seconds. -- Frosty  02:51, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Serpent's Quickness only reduces recharge by 33%, so, it would be 5, 11 and 11, but this would still give more party healing, even if you added Serpent's Quickness, than UA. UA means that you can choose between Prot and Healing Prayers, though, and still get decent single-target heals (Dismiss Condition works fine), but this has a fairly weak Patient Spirit that won't likely save your team, unless you bring an overkill on Protection (Imbagon+Aegis+Shield of Absorption).
 * If I wanted to spam party heals and have better targeted heals, I'd play Build:E/Mo Ether Renewal Bonder, although that isn't a Monk Primary, so it might not be the best example for comparison. Unarchive it if you like, but I don't think I'd run this with UA and ER around. ــмıкε  нaшк  16:25, 22 October 2008 (EDT)