Archive talk:Team - GvG Ele Split

someone do this up for me plox--TahiriVeila 22:26, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * new meta is to throw as many eles with op bars as humanly possible in a team and split the fuck out of the opponent? In that case I'm calling   Thomas   So   Dutch  07:20, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * meh. take advantage of what's op. This is what would've won us the mAT if our fucking snare hadn't DC'd in the first round of singles (before that we had be kicking the shit out of [srs] with it).--TahiriVeila 15:04, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

written up fgt. --Frosty  11:52, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Hexway is gay, this isn't.--Ikimono  "...And my axe!" 15:39, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

i am confused, if you are splitting with four eles, the prage isn't going to kill anything, no? or do you play this somehow differently? pardon my ignorance, i have not played/obsed in a few months. &mdash; Maf so rational. 07:04, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * You don't split all 4 ele's, most likely just the 2 MB's, and then occassionally the MoI/Bsurge. MoI, Bsurge and Prage make up the main team (with monks obviously). --Frosty  [[Image:Frostcharge.jpg|19px]] 11:01, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * its just ele split with most utility dropped tho. ranger and hammer are amazing at pushing stand (they can kill 2 healers usually), and an axe and bsurge just dont offer that utility, just a bit more defense. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk &bull; contribs) (UTC). 20:49, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * I thought retarded defense was what turns you on?  Thomas   So   Dutch  14:37, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * Only in tombz --Frosty  [[Image:Frostcharge.jpg|19px]] 14:48, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * or arenas :D &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk &bull; contribs) (UTC). 17:33, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks interesting (Empty Palms 11:52, December 30, 2009 (UTC))

Looks like no utility other than snares though? Exo Oo 18:43, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Blind + Gale.--174.101.236.236 06:35, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Since when are snares not utility in a split build?--TahiriVeila 07:24, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * i single water ele wont be everyone at once, and its easy enough to shut down...(mesmer, ranger, hammer, pnh). &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk &bull; contribs) (UTC). 18:30, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * ^^ was kind of my point Exo Oo 23:47, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

why is there an axe warrior in this build lol? generally-speaking, a hammer would be better. You should also probably mention, that this build is specifically used on burning isle to get lord damage. I mean, you can kill the other team, but in a decent match-up in an AT this will assuredly go to 28 minutes. --Readem 15:48, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * PR is for pushing kills. + Gale > Shock + Bulls > Gale is a good kill pusher if needed.--Ikimono  "...And my axe!" [[Image:Monk-Paragon-icon.png]] 06:46, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's a split build..... --Frosty  [[Image:Frostcharge.jpg|19px]] 14:32, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

i miss my cripshot ranger :( -- 15:40, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Vote wiped
Now that yumy and a bunch of others ran this in monthly, can we realize that I was right a month ago?--TahiriVeila 20:47, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

thanks for not believing Americans that actual play. k cya in a year --Readem 20:52, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Talking to me or the people who badvoted?--TahiriVeila 22:44, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

all this build needs
is some R/A's. Shitty (except OP) gimmick comp ftw! 24.150.172.32 19:39, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah cuz R/A seems like a brilliant idea in a gvg split build?--TahiriVeila 19:47, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Lol. -- Chaos  -- 19:56, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

will finish doing usages for remaining bars tomorrow, too tired to do it tonight
^ --TahiriVeila 04:17, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Just need to do the two stand eles, i'll get to it at some point--TahiriVeila 04:37, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * is there no build to cp from? -- Chaos  -- 08:47, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I've been writing them up from scratch since I don't think any other split builds have usages written on them with accurate tactics--TahiriVeila 19:10, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

can we get a 5th vote on this already? zzzz--TahiriVeila 02:07, February 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Done.--Ikimono  "...And my axe!" [[Image:Monk-Paragon-icon.png]] 06:08, February 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * ACTUALLY I WAS THE ONE THAT DID THE FIFTH VOTE. DON'T TAKE MY CREDIT, FUCKER. &mdash; Maf so rational. 15:15, February 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * actually, i provided the fifth vote. it just got removed ;) -- Ang el <font color="DarkBlue">us 22:08, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

defy pain
its a lord damage build, defy pain is oodles better then evisc. Gringo 22:04, February 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Probably, I'll change later or you can if you like.--TahiriVeila 22:20, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

i've never seen this run with a monk runner (especially with the current map rotation), should we just remove it? Gringo 05:03, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * We still use it on frozen and uncharted against teams we know will be running the same thing. But that's pretty much I'd suggest removing it from the main page and listing it as a mini skill bar variant under the flagger.--TahiriVeila 05:16, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Also I'd drop strip for shock arrow and probably glyph for aura. The extra damage is much more useful at stand than strip.--TahiriVeila 05:18, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * stripping prots and lyssas aura off blood bitches is immensely helpful, you make up for the damage by stripping off a prot and getting extra damage in that way. Gringo 05:29, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Preference really, but yeah dropping lyssa's does relive quite a bit of pressure.--TahiriVeila 16:21, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

latest mAT
was just won with this but with a devhammer instead of the defy pain warr. Any need to change or add variants? -- Amor  12:12, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Tbh the frontliner should just be made variable. Defy pain, devhammer (/A or /P), and SW are all effective in this slot.--TahiriVeila 23:59, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

updated 5/05/10
Lemme know if i missed anything--TahiriVeila 18:23, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

badupdate
http://pvx.wikia.com/index.php?title=Build:Team_-_GvG_Quad_Ele&diff=1066904&oldid=1066899 1k to whoever tells me why dev hammer is named Jatt Kittenstomper... pvx needs ficksin BerserkerConan 21:20, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * whoru? Jatt Kittenstomper is one of the most famous hammer wars who played top gvg. He was rawr's hammer war for most (all?) of the golds they won with rawrspike--TahiriVeila 21:22, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * <font color="Lime"> «No <font color="Black"> Ѵit..« 21:25, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Also please stop changing Jatt Kittenstomper to Conan, you're NOT a well known hammer warrior.--TahiriVeila 21:27, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Stand
How does this kill at stand? played Infuse many times against it and can't remember a single wipe, can you actualy kill at stand with it if opposing backline is good? Dino Dave 16:12, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * its not that hard to spike someone out with 4 eles + your frontline/spiker at stand. you must have been playing pretty bad teams. i personally have been playing quad ele with a rit/p SS spear spiker and you wipe shit so fast -- <font color="DarkBlue">Ang <font color="DarkBlue">el <font color="DarkBlue">us 16:19, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2 Rodgorts + chain lightning + shard storm + DW is big damage. Spiking like that every 8s or so on top of the pressure of two mind blast eles spamming MB/Immolate for pressure causes wipes.--TahiriVeila 16:28, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Spiking every 8s with a skill that causes exhaustion is baed... also dshot BerserkerConan 16:33, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * dont feed him. Gringo 16:37, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Right that's why quad ele has won the mAT like 4 times in the last 6 months. Learn to cancel, learn to position, learn to blur the ranger, learn to blind the ranger. Get good or stfu--TahiriVeila 16:39, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * why the fuck are you deliberatly causing drama by feeding a troll? leave him alone. Gringo 16:44, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure that there are plenty of things that trolls fear more than being ignored. -- Chaos?  -- 17:07, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm much more afraid of a big black man breaking into my house and anally raping me than being ignored :< --TahiriVeila 17:14, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't think anyone would read my suggestion http://pvx.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:TahiriVeila&diff=1069978&oldid=1069918 BerserkerConan 19:02, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * None of those skills cause exhaustion btw. --<font color="Black">Frosty  [[Image:Frostcharge.jpg|19px]] 19:24, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Chain does if your attune gets stripped--TahiriVeila 19:26, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * And even then, you can just use Shell Shock and even then, a couple of Chains without Attune won't kill ur energy. --<font color="Black">Frosty  [[Image:Frostcharge.jpg|19px]] 19:32, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah that's why the comment about spiking every 8s with an exhaustion skill is retarded--TahiriVeila 19:36, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah that's why the comment about spiking every 8s with an exhaustion skill is retarded--TahiriVeila 19:36, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Proposal to change into a Generic Split Build
K so as the monthly showed, this type of build is pretty much how to win Guild Wars, however 1 Fire ele imo should be optional for a ranger of other chars such as another warrior, an assassin (Palm Strike), A fire ele ofcourse, even a ranger. And it is also apparent that Defy Pain is generally the number 1 of choice since you can just sit in the lord room and do damage. k discuss. --<font color="Black">Frosty  22:27, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * cool discussion. --<font color="Black">Frosty  [[Image:Frostcharge.jpg|19px]] 09:01, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

I keep seeing in this build lately. Super lame. EisenhowerSmash! 18:25, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll fix stuff up this week. --Lemming 19:24, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Unmeta this. Nobody plays this anymore, they just split with trip melee--TahiriVeila 23:38, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Go ahead, but the update is tomorrow. --Lemming 23:45, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
 * ups! just a map change? or skills too?--TahiriVeila 00:10, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Updated Bars

 * Will Properly right up the page tonight if no one objects.--TahiriVeila 15:39, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * But quad/trip ele :( <font color="Black">Frostels 15:41, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Move this to ele split and make anew page for the bars people run?--TahiriVeila 20:15, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I think 3 ele is distinct enough from R/N/E to merit a separate page. --Lemming 01:53, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Will Properly right up the page tonight if no one objects.--TahiriVeila 15:39, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * But quad/trip ele :( <font color="Black">Frostels 15:41, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Move this to ele split and make anew page for the bars people run?--TahiriVeila 20:15, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I think 3 ele is distinct enough from R/N/E to merit a separate page. --Lemming 01:53, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Will Properly right up the page tonight if no one objects.--TahiriVeila 15:39, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * But quad/trip ele :( <font color="Black">Frostels 15:41, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Move this to ele split and make anew page for the bars people run?--TahiriVeila 20:15, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I think 3 ele is distinct enough from R/N/E to merit a separate page. --Lemming 01:53, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Current bars
Mainbar hammer + WC conjure sin. Air ele ele is changed to a fire ele with bflash + sig. Needs more variants added to monks (sin secondaries are way more common than war now) and a new flagger bar (could probably use a minibar woh variant along with the standard rt/a flag) then it's ready for a meta tag.--TahiriVeila 05:41, 29 May 2011 (UTC)