Archive talk:Any/R Raven Blessing Stygian Farmer

Think I did everything right, give me a hand if I didn't. Bad soles 14:07, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Add EBSoH and the other ebon that gives skill recharge (dunno if it works fro the raven attack or not) And maybe BUH even though it only lasts 10 seconds at r9+ =S --Sam6555 14:58, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Honor doesn't work, recharge probably won't either, since it says spells, not skills. BUH? EDIT: oh....Urals. Dosn't work, read the effect of raven more closely. and tried the recharge ward, no dice. Bad soles 15:01, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm i'm sure I saw a vid on youtube using raven + EBSoH.........oh well :P --Sam6555 15:10, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, so I just found the vid on youtube, when EBSoH ran out he was still doing 140 dmg. =S here it is --Sam6555 15:24, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

For Future Builds
If you are posting as an Any/Whatever don't add runes since only the primary profession can use the runes. You can add something like, If Running a Paragon use Command=12+1+3.-- 15:51, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Heh I should'a thought and put that build as a video :) --Sam6555 15:59, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Apologies, didn't know I had the runes on there ;) Bad soles 16:37, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Winds?
Why? Bad soles 17:12, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I have no clue, unless they decide to use GB on the spirit instead of you.....but thast still doesn't do anything :P --Sam6555 17:13, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Chucked it, don't have the slightest idea how it's useful. apologies If I missed something. Bad soles 17:31, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * its as a decoy. keep them busy for a bit for more time.--|[[Image:Hipowi_sig.jpg]] Hipowi  pew pew pew  17:32, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * "them"? --Sam6555 17:33, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see.......but where do ya drop it? you'd need to place it before you took quest, and they would kill it too quick to help much. Bad soles 18:20, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * just a retarded theorycraft, never done this in my life. in hindsight, should have put in on the talkpage not the buildpage. my next idea is ebon escape to get to npc faster--|[[Image:Hipowi_sig.jpg]] Hipowi  pew pew pew  19:14, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * And for my next act............55 armor so GB doesn't have as much effect. --Sam6555 20:17, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * from the video, they still hit you so that wouldnt be a good idea--Relyk 20:47, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * lightbringer signet ^^--Relyk 20:48, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Well obviously keep your normal armor on first >.< --Sam6555 21:43, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Relyk,how does more energy on a bar that uses raven blessing help? maybe gaze for a little bonus damage though. and Hipowi, the step is useful, but in HM you die if you end up on wrong side of npc, and in nm you don't really need it. Bad soles 02:02, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
 * yer gaze, not paying attention :D and put in Tryptophan Signet so you dont die so fast--Relyk 06:53, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Works
5-4-X it.-- Ikimono "a rabid grizzly bear"  21:44, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Rank
You could mention about Norn and Lightbringer Ranks - with low Norn Swoop is too weak to kill them in one Raven Blessing run (although it can be easily overcome by Snow Storm and Light of Deldrimor)--Sipuss 13:05, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll add that, thanks. but you have to be pretty low in both of em, just getting my mesmer though NF and EoTN got me enough to kill them. ALSO: please, sign posts with 4 tildes, so we can see who you are =p. Bad soles 02:59, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Votes
I'd like some. It works, and is the best option for nearly all classes. Bad soles 22:00, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * moved to testing. ··· Danny   Does   Drugs  22:03, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Oops. I thought it was in the proper mode to be voted on. sorry, and thanks danny for fixing that. yay for being a pvx nub. Bad soles 23:17, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * np. lol. just for clarification, trial is for build-editing, testing is for voting. ···  Danny   Does   Drugs  04:23, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

yeh, figured that out. but trial means the same thing as testing if you think about it. reading the rest of the box might help =p. Bad soles 04:39, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * it has to do with PW:VETTING. Also, use : to indent, to keep a thread flowing properly. =p ··· Danny   Does   Drugs  15:14, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Ebon Battle Standard of Wisdom
44-60% half-recharge on spells. Swoop is spell, add? 08:03, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Honor doesn't work, Wisdom probably won't either--Sipuss 11:06, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Honor doesn't work? I haven't tested it, but that'd seem contrary to game mechanics, since it's previously worked with everything. Intensity/BUH might be good options, too. ··· Danny   Does   Drugs  16:42, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

It was told at the beginning of discussion page and also in note under video link. Intensity and BUH won't work either, as Blessing will take them off. The only way to halve Raven Swoop's recharge is by weapon mod I think. I'm using Kerrsh's Staff and it works well for that build--Sipuss 22:10, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Raven Swoop is armor ignoring I'm pretty sure. If it is then it actually does go with game mechanics because honor doesn't add to any armor ignoring damage. -- Drah 22:14, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, that would mean Wisdom may be able to work even under Blessing. Will have to check that EDIT: It works...--Sipuss 22:18, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks then. I guess I must have had trouble noticing the difference since I always use QZ on my ranger. Should make it a good deal quicker, for all classes. Bad soles 23:15, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Out of curiosity - I haven't had the chance to try running this yet - but is it possible to do without the /P? Specifically, would it be plausible to go /R to take QZ? ··· Danny   Does   Drugs  14:59, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Probably yes, just take Natural Stride to compensate "Fall back!". "Can't touch this!" isn't really needed, for NM at least. Will check it later. --Sipuss 20:49, 8 June 2009 (UTC) EDIT: Works. This can be even Any/Any, but it can be hard to make a good aggro without 33% speed boost. Note: checked only in NM.
 * Not sure why you'd go in NM if you can go in HM - I'll have to test it out later with just Nat Stride. Maybe it'd have to bring a self-heal of some kind just in case. ··· Danny   Does   Drugs  21:18, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

OK, checked HM, works pretty much the same. Why NM ? - For me, gems drop more often on NM than HM :F --Sipuss 21:32, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Gems, being rare drops, have a naturally higher drop rate in HM. ··· Danny   Does   Drugs  15:10, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

That's why I said "for me". I've always had such weird luck ;o --Sipuss 20:53, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No you haven't, the drops gem drops are higher for everyone in HM. ^_^ Brandnew 20:55, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

You do know what word "luck" means ? --Sipuss 13:05, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Problems
(this is in HM) The group never seens to agro the same way, even though i run the same path while agroing them. Half the time one dosnt get body blocked and the other half they scatter from swoop and go around the NPC. Is this normal??? Then i have thoes 1 in 4 sucessful runs..so i can do it ʞɹɐp  soɐɥɔ  03:45, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Just practice it a bit tbh, it takes a while to get it down nicely. practice moving to the left and right behind npc to get em stuck. are you using NR? helps alot.  My Soles Are Bad 04:03, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * NR being? And i use drunken master with FB. ʞɹɐp  soɐɥɔ  04:16, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Nature's Renewal. It makes it so Dark Aura takes longer to cast, giving you more time to get into position. Overall, you'll probably fail half the time because agro is erratic.  Life [[Image:WikiLOD7.gif]] 04:17, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * thats limiting...as the build is Any/P and NR a ranger skill :/ ʞɹɐp  soɐɥɔ  04:24, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Go /R for HM.....have it in notes on page, should put a secondary HM bar probably, since people seem to ignore text in favor of copying skill bars and not reading.  My Soles Are Bad 04:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Going /P is completely unnecessary. CTT! is overrated for this. All you need is a IMS.  Life [[Image:WikiLOD7.gif]] 04:31, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm...that sounds convincing, ill have to try that ^_^ ʞɹɐp  soɐɥɔ  04:35, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe just make a mainbar /R with both HM and NM skills on in? Like RB, storm chaser, Natural stride, NR, QZ, Wisdom?  My Soles Are Bad 04:36, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * That's all you need for NM.  Life [[Image:WikiLOD7.gif]] 05:04, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * NM isnt worth it imo, the drops dont compare to HM. <font color="black" face="arial">ʞɹɐp  <font color="Purple" face="arial">soɐɥɔ  05:08, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The only worthwhile drop is a gemstone anyways, and its drop rate isn't affected by NM/HM.  Life [[Image:WikiLOD7.gif]] 05:11, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * That does HM fine as well.  Life [[Image:WikiLOD7.gif]] 05:11, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Have 12 in wild already, no reason not to use the stances. Also: no reason not to place QZ after you have pulled, gives you more time in QZ to attack....give me a few to upload a photo. <font color="hotpink" size="2px"> My Soles Are Bad 13:43, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, gemstones, as rare-value items, should drop more in HM. I'm not sure whether it's been confirmed or not, seeing as they're Rare Collector items, it'd be hard to guess. ··· Danny   Does   Drugs  15:13, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * @ Life, i dont mean golds i ment the gems...i thought that because they are sort of a "gold" item they would drop more in HM.. <font color="black" face="arial">ʞɹɐp  <font color="Purple" face="arial">soɐɥɔ  15:29, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Theoretically, yes, they should drop more in HM as a rare item. However, since they're also collector's items, it's hard to tell. I'm not sure anyone's done any research on the topic, either. My personal opinion is that they would not have been made "rare" items if they were not intended to drop more in HM. ··· Danny   Does   Drugs  15:33, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh and does EBSoW stack with QZ or no. --<font color="black" face="arial">ʞɹɐp  <font color="Purple" face="arial">soɐɥɔ  15:36, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 50% is hard limit I think, why I didn't put it on there. <font color="hotpink" size="2px"> My Soles Are Bad 16:29, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * QZ is placed after you have pulled. It's NR that you cast beforehand.  Life [[Image:WikiLOD7.gif]] 19:38, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Yea, got confused by someone mislabeling picture they put up. fixed it <font color="hotpink" size="2px"> My Soles Are Bad 19:40, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Is this nerfed? cuz they always agro wrong doesn't matter how i aggro they always kill me?-- HardBeatzz 08:06, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Practice hard you must. Brandnew 07:54, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Can anybody show me? My ING is Krikke Blackarrow.--HardBeatzz 08:06, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The video shows you, doesn't it? ^_^ Brandnew 08:08, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes i know ^^ buth i do exact as in the video buth still they aggro wrong, 2-4hungers always come around the npc and kill me.--HardBeatzz 08:10, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Just have a little more practice and you'll start learning it, patience is key! ;) Brandnew 08:12, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Will do :) --HardBeatzz 08:13, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * if you are too close or too far from the NPC you will get hit/attacked or have then run around the npc --DarkChaosSig.png 17:40, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I can get pull and everything right but it seems like 50% of the time the hungers scatter when I use swoop