Archive talk:Team - HNPF

a hero needs UA,no ? CloseImpact Too Muh Bruh  09:54, 13 September 2008 (EDT)
 * No. Drag  nmn   talk cont  10:08, 13 September 2008 (EDT)
 * UA is changed now. Read the Sep 10th update #1. --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]]  Ressmonkey (talk)  10:41, 13 September 2008 (EDT)

Video, please?--Fallen (talk ) 11:07, 13 September 2008 (EDT)
 * U dont really need a video, although u dont have video software so I couldnt make one anyways. --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]] Ressmonkey (talk)  11:14, 13 September 2008 (EDT)
 * OR a map/screen of how to get to the boss area [[Image:That Twin Tom sig.jpg|19px]] That  Twin   Tom  15:37, 13 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Image added. --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]] Ressmonkey (talk)  20:19, 13 September 2008 (EDT)

OIC didn't read updates x] u just let ur heroes do all shit, you dont even fight?CloseImpact Too Muh Bruh  05:55, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
 * nope. --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]] Ressmonkey (talk)  09:27, 14 September 2008 (EDT)

Don't you need to at least be in compass range to the get the reputation points? That's how it works in dungeons.  ℓγssάή is  ѕяѕ  вѕήѕ   11:12, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Stangely enough, not here. --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]] Ressmonkey (talk)  13:05, 14 September 2008 (EDT)

shhh...don't let them nerf it.  ℓγssάή is  ѕяѕ  вѕήѕ   14:44, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Why, no one cares about norn title anymore-- Shadow [[Image:Relyk Sig.gif]] 21:33, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Actually, its a really easy max title and it also helps with norn skills, but it really isnt as useful since the ursan nerf (Goddam u A-Net!). --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]] Ressmonkey (talk)  21:54, 14 September 2008 (EDT)

4th hero should be fall back too, instead of charge, so u dont need to micro--Thc 18:04, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
 * But then theres one second downtime and really uve got nothing better to do during that time. --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]] Ressmonkey (talk)  18:16, 15 September 2008 (EDT)

Old Norn Hero Farm
This seems actually like the old one that got deleted, except, there is 1 leecher now instead of someone who needs to get rezed. also, for the red points. if u flag past the points the siege ice golem will only hurt and not kill anyone...Nibelhim 21:51, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Ok, TBH that statement is wrong in 3 ways. First of all, it wasnt deleted, it was removed as per the database crash which is kinda different.  Secondly, the change to Unyielding Aura makes it impossible to be ressed.  Thirdly, they will die.  Maybe not all of them but some of them.  Snares + Water Trident + High damage in HM = death to stupid henchmen.  And if 2 people die, you wont have enough damage to be able to kill the facet of existence.  If your healer dies (high chance), youll all die to the Facet of Spirit. --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]]  Ressmonkey (talk)  22:07, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
 * lol vids are good too [[Image:That Twin Tom sig.jpg|19px]] That  Twin   Tom  14:13, 16 September 2008 (EDT)

Why sac?
Is there a reason why you need to sacrifice yourself instead of going with the group? If so, the article should state so. If not, then say that you can use whatever as primary char (might as well join in). 132.204.105.198 09:52, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * The trick is that heroes alone do not spawn mobs. So you don't want to walk with them, or you slow down/might die. The saccing is only convenient cause then you can see what the heroes are doing. You do not need to sac, but you can't come along with the heroes. Drag  nmn   talk cont  13:58, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * wat do YOU do then i dont get the usage [[Image:That Twin Tom sig.jpg|19px]] That  Twin   Tom  14:48, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * You only have 1 job that you really need. That is getting the blessing.  Saccing is jus tnice because it allows you to see what the heroes are doin/where theyre going and also allows you to micro Thunderclap or Rigor Mortis vs enemies that use spells/block. --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]]  Ressmonkey (talk)  15:37, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * (EC) I'll read the usage again, see if it is unclear and edit it. Drag  nmn   talk cont  15:39, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * ohhh so that person is the blessing person...u dont really need a speed boost etc for that..id just say go get the blessing btw cause not everyone knows the name of the NCP [[Image:That Twin Tom sig.jpg|19px]] That  Twin   Tom  15:39, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * No wonder I didn't find that unclear part. Ill edit it anyway. Drag  nmn   talk cont  16:05, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * lol :) [[Image:That Twin Tom sig.jpg|19px]] That  Twin   Tom  16:06, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * also i found that heroes wait like 5-10 seconds after each facet spawns to attack it, if u suicide and call the facets the second they spawn it speeds up the run by 40-50 seconds plus i found my vekk was using thunderclap as a last resort skill Moosymoose 10:37, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

worth doing?
I tried it out and it works pretty well, but only yielding 75 rep per boss, therefore giving only 450 rep per run. With these numbers i think "is it really beneficial to waste all the time on this for a worthless title?" I mean if ur title farming, (which i am but not norn atm =]) sure its a fine way to farm for points. but its gonna take u a hell of a long time to go from r5 to max lol.
 * And theres no better way. This generates ~5000 points per hour, while NPF (with people) generates ~5000 points per hour.  This is only dependant upon your ability.  NPF is dependant upon the ability of your entire team.  If a couple people suck at NPF, you are screwed and it takes 70 minutes to do a run or you just might not finish.  Also, 5000 points per hour on NPF does not include getting a group.  So basically this is the best way to farm norn point short of a REALLY good NPF group. --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]]  Ressmonkey (talk)  20:56, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * yh plus even with npf it took AGES!!!!! with this u dont need to find a team and monks which took ages too [[Image:That Twin Tom sig.jpg|19px]] That  Twin   Tom  03:09, 18 September 2008 (EDT)

but u need path of revelations....its kinda annoying if u alrdy done that for air of superiority^^ eh i fcked it up lol... -- Wuhy 09:11, 17 October 2008 (EDT)
 * i did it wit my bro my heroes and 3 henchies and it worked fine...u just need a m8 that haunt done it [[Image:That Twin Tom sig.jpg|19px]] That  Twin   Tom  10:41, 17 October 2008 (EDT)

each run takes between 5 minutes including the time it takes to abandon/retake quest/rezone/stuffing around. Each run gives 450 points and it takes 356 runs to go from no rank to max rank taking between 25 and 30 hours to max ur rank, presuming you have already beaten eotn on your character you should already be r2-r4. Unless you can rush 6 books in under a day this is the fastest way to farm norn points.

seems nerfed ?!
I just tried it and it worked 1 time for me with only 6x 50 norn points in HM O.o I abandoned the quest, i took it again from Kersh, but each next try I didn't got any norn points anymore :(
 * OMG, i believe, I forgot to get blessing xD shame on me ^^
 * Its also meant to be done in Hard Mode, so you should be getting 75 * 6 points per run. Otherwise, taking the blessing is usually a good idea =P --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]]  Ressmonkey (talk)  18:47, 1 December 2008 (EST)

MUCH faster run
If you exit from Central Transfer Chamber and go left and take the portal, you spawn just south of the area. Its about 5x closer. And there are waaay less enemies. You can go H/H this way and still beat this build. --Risus 03:52, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) this is H/H. 2) Theres stuff in the way which will in HM kill ur people. ---  Ressmonkey  (talk) 20:25, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * He's saying that if you go form battledepths, you can just run up and kill the facets with your full team and still finish quicker than what this build is doing. Life   Guardian  22:40, December 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * From my experience it takes longer to fight there because you have to kill through about 20 enemies, even in that short distance. ---  Ressmonkey  (talk) 22:47, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

ummm
Ive already done the quest and accepted the reward...does that mean i cant do this??? -- <font color="black" size="2px">Ajsnuker   22:18, December 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep, sorry. --- <font color="Blue"> Ressmonkey  (talk) 22:47, December 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope. See above, the 5th comment in the "worth doing?" section (reading FTW!). Replace a hench with a leecher who has the quest. Obv the leecher can get the blessing but does not run with the heroes. --War_Pig5 14:22, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Obsolete?
Hero Speedbook gives much more rep over time than this method, even on double rep weekends. 216.195.26.128 13:35, February 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep, archiving. --- <font color="Blue"> Ressmonkey  (talk) 13:51, February 16, 2010 (UTC)