Build talk:Team - 3 Man Plant Fiber Farm

Improvement of the 600/smite plant fiber farm which needs to many players to actually succeed. Farm works fast and clean. Takes about 4-5 minutes to finish. If not even less. Eiion X 13:03, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Question, tank, give him Deadly Paradox and MoP Le Shadow Form Slayer    [[Image:Marker.jpg|17px]] 13:47, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The dervishes can delete stances so you'll have about 0.1 sec to be safe on casting shadow form. That's where Glyph of swiftness is better then Deadly paradox. MoP isn't needed as the VoS can spike the groups solo in HM.Eiion X 15:11, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * A ye, the stance remove. Forgot about them. Well, MoP looked cleaner and a one hit Le Shadow Form Slayer    [[Image:Marker.jpg|17px]] 15:44, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Derv could use ebon escape, freeing up secondary. Smity Smitington 16:54, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * but then what is the attribute split? 166.164.118.126 05:59, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The derv can spike with just eremite fine. No need for MoP, so would just be a waste of a skill. And yes it would be possible to change Death's Charge for Ebon Escape. This is build isn't finished yet so. Eiion X 12:44, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Testing
If anyone wants to test this you can always PM me in-game. For those who believe you can't spike without MoP. Eiion X 12:49, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I believe you can, I just wondered ;) Le Shadow Form Slayer    [[Image:Marker.jpg|17px]] 13:32, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Sin primary necessary?
Is it absolutely necessary for the tank to be a sin primary? you've got bonds so energy should be easy. Seems like it would make more sense to use deadly paradox than glyph of swiftness (even on a sin primary) and doing so would open this up to allow any class (execpt maybe war/para) to be the main tank.--TahiriVeila 13:47, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It would be possible on an Elementalist i think. But since you run Deadly Paradox you have chance to get your stance deleted. Ending in your SF not taking long enough to stay alive, since the dervishes can delete stances. So Glyph Of Swiftness is better Imo. Eiion X 15:09, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Tanking
The tank needs to agro groups at the right time, you should make a youtube video or something to get the right agro time. Sjan  13:24, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, us two tried it with a monk hero (no problem with that). The main problem is tanking the whole is somewhat a problem, and disaggro is a pain. There are several spots that work (there is an absolute line where no group will lose aggro). Find this line and you will succeed! Le Shadow Form Slayer    [[Image:Marker.jpg|17px]] 13:56, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Well the best way to don't get anything disaggroed is to just leave the outer right group and ball em in the center. This way you'll get the 25 kills and you can ball em all together Eiion X 13:58, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, at the ele boss, the absolute line is the path from the hill onward. At the monk boss, this is the same, a path (walking from the ele-monk) that comes from between the cliffs. Good Luck! Le Shadow Form Slayer    [[Image:Marker.jpg|17px]] 13:59, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Build updated and moved to Testing
Let's start rating this build? Build should be in his final face now but new comments are still cool ^^ Eiion X 11:33, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Dacookiemaster
Which farm is done in 2 minutes? <font color="3333CC"><font color="3300CC">Le Shadow Form <font color="3366CC">Slayer     07:49, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
 * This is more ment to have a synergy between plant fiber farming and people who want to raise there Sunspear Title track Eiion X 10:51, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
 * using an assassin, i can either mantra farm them or use whirling for a farm from 1-2 minutes a piece. Dacookiemaster 02:14, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd like to see it <font color="3333CC"><font color="3300CC">Le Shadow Form <font color="3366CC">Slayer    [[Image:Marker.jpg|17px]] 08:10, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Blind
How do you deal with the blind from the derv enemies? Also, why not use Essence Bond instead of Blessed sig, since you have 0 in Divine? 71.214.238.18 01:48, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Blind doesn't affect VoS's damage packets. They're generated on attack, not on hit. No idea about Blessed sig though. --  Toraen   talk  01:57, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * We used both, there seems to be no problem at all with both <font color="3333CC"><font color="3300CC">Le Shadow Form <font color="3366CC">Slayer    [[Image:Marker.jpg|17px]] 08:19, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Optimizations
No reason to have blessed sig on the monk, just put Balthazar's Spirit on yourself and you will gain energy from the 0-damage packets that are redirected to you because of Life Bond. Also, it's more efficient in terms of SS-points/time to just spike the groups down the first hill and re-zone, rather than running all the way over to the monk boss and killing the spawns over there. Of course you can always bring 2 tanks, 2 bonders and 2 spikers and split both ways.24.79.106.31 18:48, 6 April 2012 (UTC)