Archive talk:A/E Rragar Runner

Do whatever you want to it, possibly a dupe 88.106.79.126 09:23, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * nope but sliver armor is good--Relyk 09:41, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * methinks Sliver Armour should be in there. 2 spells, with long recharge times, to solo an entire dungeon? bad idea for a PUG :P ScythemasterCactus 10:48, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * only need to kill specific enemies. Also, if this is well, then 600/smite CoF/SoO is aswell... which is argued alot, its more of a guide of the dungeon. Change as you want. 88.106.79.126 10:55, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * There is a GUIDE for this so making multiple builds is just clogging up build space. Add it to the article about the specifics of this build.-- X  11:14, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Build:A/E Kathandrax Solo Build:A/E Darkrime Delves. One is in testing, the other is in great, i dont care if this is changed but deletion not needed.Really needs to be a Dungeon Section added to PvX if you have problems, but there needed 88.106.79.126 12:49, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I ran this awhile back with two sins, pretty frustrating just with two sins. Wouldn't it be wise to put up to a guide or something to say which charr to kill in order, or a guide through the dungeon ?ViNcE [[Image:Manly Elite Skill.jpg|19px]] 21:34, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I made the dungeon with this build in 1h and 30mins. The third floor's Flesheater and foes around him took very long time to kill. I'd rather run A/Me with Ether Nightmare, CoP and Ebon Sniper Support than this.. Razon The Monk 16:33, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * EVAS and EVSS are not very good for soloing this dungeon, Maybe if you made team of 8 sins running similar builds but with slight variations, this could be turned into a speed clear of sorts just to get the end chest and for rep. Essence of Celerity could be thrown in so you can take out dark escape and GoS therefore making room for more skills allowing for more survivability or damage as you see fit. Maybe you could have sin with the ebon battle standard of honor and of wisdom to pump out more damage and to help EVAS and EVSS recharge faster. --208.118.6.161 21:23, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

usage
kill stuff is eeeuh, kinda small. could you make a proper usage please? Riktw 18:15, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, "Kill Stuff" is not exactly the most informative guide I've seen lol - something like this therefore -
 * Run to dungeon
 * Level 1
 * - Pick up keg, blow up wall (remembering to cover SF)
 * - Run to Rragar, aggro, seperate him from mobs and Sliver him till he retreats, picking up key
 * - Run to exit
 * Level 2
 * - Run all the way to Rragar
 * - Seperate him from mobs and Sliver him till he retreats again, picking up key
 * - Run to exit
 * Level 3
 * - Run to Maneaters
 * - Sliver them (that will take some time methinks lol), pick up key
 * - Run to boss lock
 * - Kill Hidesplitter then Rragar (again slowly).
 * Hmm, this would be ok for soloing if you wished to I suppose but the time it takes would be too slow for PUGS, not to mention you have the whole issue of how to get the group to the end chest on Level 3... A/Me would more than certainly be faster, even if it is just from a soloing point of view --Ying Tze 14:08, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

You can't kill the charr warden, he kills you too fast >.>--Relyk 11:02, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep, had the same problem (admittedly trialling in HM), could not get him down. With luck I suppose and hitting him first time, combined with a lucky EVSS hit, maybe possible.--Ying Tze 11:24, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Why were you trying to kill the Warden? All you do is go after Rragar repeatedly. (Disclaimer: I'm not sure if the Warden drops a key or something that you need to finish the dungeon.) ··· [[File:Dannycbf.PNG]] 19:36, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ying is terrible. Look at the build, kthnx. Also, kill rragar first and dont be a shitter on lvl 3. Life   Guardian  23:22, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * so, I guess this is faster than earbite/signet of infection? Drahgal Meir 00:50, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd understand if i got a run probably, but 15k is a waste when there's a wiki that can give instructions on how to do it. anyways, there's a door behind the group with the warden, which leads to rragar's room to get the key, and im pretty sure you have to kill him to open it.--Relyk 01:06, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

I like this build idea, but i need a walkthrough badly, because no one in doomlore shrine will teach me, even if i offer 10-20 ecto :D
 * Too bad we dont have a name to go with that pretty smiley face you've got there.-- Ikimono "Mutton Chop Man" [[Image:Monk-Paragon-icon.png|24px]] 03:25, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

i think you make your group bring sniper and evas to kill the warden and rragar--Relyk 06:20, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * otherwise you would have to keep using sniper and evas to kill the prophet until he dies, then do the warden, which takes a crap load of time--Relyk 06:24, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * has anyone actually tested if you need to kill the warden, or are we still working off of theory? ··· [[File:Dannycbf.PNG]] 19:59, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

According to the map you need to go that way to get the dungeon key for the lock at the end of the first level, so i'd say it was necessary. I too have had trouble with this (i tried it in nm) however i may just have been unlucky. 82.8.227.172 15:12, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, first up, the text I posted at the start was an "example" not gospel. Author could use and tailor.  Yes, it contained mistakes, sorry for that - it was late.  Bad oops on kill order for bosses.  Anyway, the Warden on Level 1 HAS to be killed to open the door to get to Rragar. I've now tried this a number of times, can be hit and miss with Level 1.  However, taking 2 human sins with this kinda setup (throwing in Signet of Infection in) helps tremendously and also opens up running payees (1 tanking, 1 leading people) on Level 3.  People still may find this slow so an Essence of Celerity maybe prudent for speed and allowance of an extra skill.--Ying Tze 17:25, September 6, 2009 (UTC)

Recommended Equipment
To minimize the damage you take, what do you think about having a martial weapon of enchanting with "I Have the Power!" inscription, and a shield or focus with the inscription "Sleep Now in the Fire" for +10 armour against fire (the damage dealt by Ignite Arrows, a Charr Seeker skill bypassing SF)? Anyways, that was just after running to the first appearance of Rragar, I may find a good reason not to have it yet, and I'll continue testing this build =]

As of now
I can't get this build to work because I can't kill warden, someone wanna update build?--Relyk 17:46, September 13, 2009 (UTC)
 * Why were you trying to kill the Warden? All you do is go after Rragar repeatedly. (Disclaimer: I'm not sure if the Warden drops a key or something that you need to finish the dungeon.) ··· File:Dannycbf.PNG 19:36, September 2, 2009 (UTC)  Brandnew 19:00, September 13, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, you do need to kill that warden. And I laughed this off the moment I saw it because of the fact that I used to duo or trio with guildies using an essence, signet of infection, and "Finish Him!" for things that get taken out on the non-runner, and those runs took around 30-45 mins. This build is too slow to get through desirably for running. Dream Traveler Haru 00:10, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * yeah i agree, this build is too slow. but if you do want to do kill warden...as u enter the room there should be a fiery rock on the left of the group. hide behind that. target the healer first and proceed to take them all out until just you and the warden are left. you can then drop SF and just spam EVAS and EVSS. KillerGrandma 03:31, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * this took half an hour to kill rragar and hideplitter in normal mode. dont even ask about the fleshweavers you need to kill in order to get the boss key.  all in all, well over 2 hours on lvl3 alone.  very slow solo.24.59.186.220 03:11, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * A guy i talked to claims 25-30 minutes and max ev title--Relyk 02:44, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * forgot to sign my first one, but 30 minutes??! Granted i was rank 6 trying this...i think it counts for something that i was in Normal Mode.  If rank helps that much, it should be noted on the main page.  And like a said...i blew off a red rock candy when i started fighting rragar and hidesplitter so i could attack faster with a zealous spear to regain energy.  That candy was almost gone by the time they both were dead.  Also, i should note, i used EVSS about 25 times on one single fleshweaver before it died.  Only an estimate there, so i counted for the next one....19 times before i landed the 10% crit....thats closer to 5% chance.  Maybe i was extremely unlucky.  Like i said though, r6 vanguard normal mode.  Those were on the ritualist ones cause they healed, first smiter that run up on me gave me some trouble, but i killed him fairly fast.  The ritualist fleshweavers though...i dont see any expaination for those on the mainpage.  I dont doubt the 30 minute claim though because its very possible with extreme luck on your side.  I must ask though...was that the while dungeon or just lvl3?  I'll be testing this further, i like the idea of this build.  I'll need to max my vanguard rank thats for sure. 24.59.186.220 03:11, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm.... 25-30min does seem extremely hard solo.. you can dodge most of the patrols from the key group in lvl3 to the boss and the groups you can't dodge the perma could always pull away. That way the boss would go down alot easier with PUGs with EVAS/EVSS. Although I'm not sure how easy it would be to get the PUGs to the key group, by yourself that key group would be a bitch to kill. From a payees perspective I would gladly help a little bit(taking down boss/key group if possible) to make the run 10-15mins faster then a 600/smite run.Consitini 08:54, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Why hasn't this terrible build been deleted yet?
Someone remove it already.
 * Perhaps because it's not the build thats terrible but the user? I would change 1 or 2 skills BUT this does work and well if you know what you're doing. I used to run very similar to this all the time takes about 30 minutes. I think alot of you are forgetting that EVSS can take out a foe in one shot. With warden kill the monk first then focus on Warden and thats easy. As far as getting groups to boss on lvl 3 also easy called running.Brian78wa 19:17, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

2 more votes
gogo - Athrun Feya  15:10, November 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * Not every dungeon works with this dupe build -.-; Dream Traveler Haru 01:32, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * ups--Relyk 04:45, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

can someone please make a new build that can actualy run rragars menagerie?