Archive talk:Team - Desolation Run

why?--Relyk 22:49, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

To get Vabbian armor early, instead of doing 10 missions and quests to get to Kodash
 * you know you cant do the desolation mission right...? ViNcE  [[Image:Manly Elite Skill.jpg|19px]] 23:09, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Lol, this build is so shittertastic. You can do it solo hella easy. Life   Guardian  23:24, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * lol @ Resurrect. :P --Carnivorous CupcakeCarnCupcake Muffin.jpg 23:37, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

You don't need to do the mission, that's the point, you bypass the missions to get the armor. I know what Resurrect does, its there for a reason.
 * Once again, you don't need two people to run this. Life   Guardian  00:12, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

How would you run through the Desolation solo?
 * By not being bad lol. Using UA and resurrect is terrible. Life   Guardian  00:15, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Through the Desolation from Sunspear Sanctuary, going through the haze, mate. And you can solo that?
 * Yep. No worm. Life   Guardian  00:19, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

We don't use the wurm either. We run along the outta rim of the haze
 * I know...it's easily soloable. Life   Guardian  00:25, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

That's just the way we do it :P

I would like to see a video of that solo, sandy and I are getting some videos of this build uploaded as I type this and they will be added to the build.
 * Nah, no videos, because frankly i don't really want the build getting out. I'll get a screen in a sec, and you'll just have to trust i didnt use a worm =\. Life   Guardian  02:32, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Desolationsolo.jpg

Okay, I am really wondering how you did that. There is a large area where there are no safe spots to stop at. Also, please don't make fun of one build if you are not willing to show a better one.
 * If you think about it hard enough, it's fairly obvious. Similar principle as yours. Life   Guardian  03:25, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Similar, but once you reach the end of the safe areas there is a large gap that only a wurm can cross. We had to use a UA res chain to get across because there are no safe areas. Unless you show a screenshot of you standing out there past where our first video shows, which is on youtube under desolation run part 1, then I have to say you used a wurm.
 * Where exactly? oh, and if you could kindly indent properly and sign with 4 tildes (~), it would be much appreciated. Life   Guardian  03:35, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

In the middle of the first area with sulfurous haze there is a rocky area you can stand on, it is the last one until you get to safety, sandy is working on a screen shot as we speak. --Vv W 03:39, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I think i know what you're talking about. I'll try to get screens of me on the haze in different areas when i have the chance. Doing fow runs atm, so could be a while. Life   Guardian  03:41, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Videos are up, and after looking more at your route and what not I can see how you could run that, but it isn't going to be nearly as fast or as fool proof as our dual running build.
 * Oh it's fool proof alright. And you used an essence ffs. What a giant waste of cons. Life   Guardian  04:46, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * . 6 hawt pics that should be enough to prove it wasnt done in a worm. Life   Guardian  05:14, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Elite kurz for ze win. life has good taste. great taste. and you showed two skills, idk if you were trying to cover them all up. but.. dark escape and stability. anywho... gg's life.  Akio _Ka  t  suragi   [[File:Akio_Katsuragi_Sig.jpg]] 05:32, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Nah, dont care about those two :p Tbh, if you're lucky, you can run the whole thing by just straight up hitting safe spots. Extremely unreliable though. Life   Guardian  05:36, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I've grown to lazy for runs recently. once i started pvp'ing more. now just uw stuff. and ra/ta/ab is all i do... and waste $ on armor. but i'm sure this phase will pass eventually. maybe i'll hit that "title" phase one day. for now only title i look at is gladiator, and its horrible anyways. but still my only title i'm proud of lol. XD  Akio _Ka  t  suragi   [[File:Akio_Katsuragi_Sig.jpg]] 05:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Wait, so you can run from the Gates of Desolation to where? Where ever is great for me because my video card doesn't support past Moddok Crevice in NF but it does support the Desolation.-- $ɧor₮  talk  08:07, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * funny -- -Ch  ao  s-   08:07, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah thanks.--TheShortOneKlhksjdnfsig.jpg $ɧor₮  talk  08:16, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Life, whats the point of censoring the professions if the pic clearly shows an assassin? :p --Carnivorous Cupcake 09:46, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Secondary profession much?--TheShortOneKlhksjdnfsig.jpg $ɧor₮  talk  10:05, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

My guess is an A/Me with echo dash --Vv W 11:57, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * ^ My bet is echo dash + dwarven stability--TahiriVeila 12:27, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I saw Dark Escape so my guess is Echo Dark Escape with Dwarven Stability ^^. Although I still can't see how you would do it solo, tell me. ='(--TheShortOneKlhksjdnfsig.jpg $ɧor₮  talk  17:15, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Of course =) --Vv W 14:33, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't know about any of you, but I like this build. I would much rather dual run it and use a con with a very small chance of failure than use a solo build where you have to get lucky.
 * thats nice but i dont think any of us wanna uselessly run thru desolation 2 get vabbian armor keep it 2 urself :L --86.169.20.121 15:17, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

This used to be a common run, but when it was nerfed a while back everyone seemed to lose interest. Sandy and I have made a good bit of gold running this already, so hopefully having it on pvx will get more people to try it. --Vv W 15:49, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not a nerf when people lose interest >___> people just realized it was so ridiculously easy and shouldn't bother paying for a run for Vabbian armor. + ℓγ ss άή [rage]  16:06, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

We've also learned that by doing this run and getting to Kodash Bazaar, you can get the quest "To Vabbi!", thus skipping several missions in NF
 * ^that's interesting actually--Relyk 17:08, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

It actually was a nerf, the run was originally done by having everyone who cannot use a wurm die out of radar range of the wurm spoor, then the runner could enter the wurm and travel to the desired area.
 * K, so, i think you misunderstood what i meant. If you do it my way, you can't fail. If you straight up dwarven+dash, you can make the run,, but it's extremely unreliable. Life   Guardian  23:21, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I understand what you mean, Life. We designed a way to make the run reliable. An essence of celerity is easy to replace, even if making this run with only one person. 1k per stop = 5k for total trip. I respect that you can do it solo, congrats to you. Other people may not be able to, and that is why we devised this buildSandy The Assassin 23:41, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Zzz, waste of an essence, just be good and do it the normal way, solo. Don't need wurms. Invincible  Rogue [[Image:Invincible_rogue_siggy.jpg]] 01:00, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

If you can do it solo odds are you don't need the run. People still get runs to droks, and I think paying for runs is a waste of money, but people like to get to places faster. --Vv W 02:47, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Eh. life's badass. i side with life. besides. still a waste of an essense. sigh.  Akio _Ka  t  suragi   [[File:Akio_Katsuragi_Sig.jpg]] 06:16, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

With Life's build you can make it across easily enough, but because of its unreliable nature you cannot use it to run people. As for the essence, if your not going to try this build don't worry about it. --Vv W 19:15, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * tildes or whatever. i know its w from the edit page. but dont forget to sign. and i run other things, so ya. i dont have to worry about it.  Akio _Ka  t  suragi   [[File:Akio_Katsuragi_Sig.jpg]] 17:33, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Unreliable? lolwut. Life   Guardian  23:07, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * He said that using just dwarven+dash was unreliable, not the build that he actually uses. Drahgal Meir 23:13, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Drah mcreading comprehension. Life   Guardian  23:16, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

To be perfectly honest I am a little tired of this solo build, if you want to talk about it post it on pvx and talk on its page. This build is still more reliable than any other. If you don't believe me then try it, if you will not try it please keep your opinion to yourself. --Vv W 00:38, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * im 100% sure there's a quote somewhere here on pvx that says something about not having to test a build to give your opinion and know wether it'll work or not. so people dont need to test it to give their opinion. Sir Nothing 00:41, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

You can at least understand why I am saying this, I mean the fourth comment on the build was that it is "shittertastic". At least watch the videos first. --Vv W 00:52, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It is shittertastic? It has been proven via screenshots that you can do this reliably solo. Without waiting for someone to use resurrect on you. Drahgal Meir 00:54, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Obviously you haven't bothered with the videos, but without anything to show the average player how to solo this, it would seem this build is the only build available. Unless you want to post the solo build on here, lets talk about the dual running build. --Vv W 01:04, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to waste my time watching a build that I'm never going to use. Also please learn to indent. Use one more : than what the last person posted. Drahgal Meir 01:08, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * or you could just ya know, do the missions and put off getting armor for another 2 hours. dying every 3 seconds while running isnt really my bag baby Sir Nothing 01:11, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

If you want to use the "do the missions" argument then talk to the people who still do the droks run, and if your not planning on using the build whats the point of posting here? --Vv W 01:28, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Er... how are you comparing those two runs? lol. the ratio has to be like 1:6 or so time wise lol. or, with the story comparing missions and times, i'd say like 1:15. lol. srry. just had to comment on that XD  Akio _Ka  t  suragi   [[File:Akio_Katsuragi_Sig.jpg]] 01:48, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Just because I don't plan on using the build, doesn't make my comments any less correct. Drahgal Meir 01:50, 29 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm comparing them on how even though its probably better to do the missions, people still do the runs. And what comment are you talking about being correct, the last thing you said before that was an opinion. --Vv W 01:53, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * comments* meaning all of them Sir Nothing 01:54, 29 August 2009 (UTC)


 * The only comment I see of his that isn't an opinion is "It is shittertastic? It has been proven via screenshots that you can do this reliably solo. Without waiting for someone to use resurrect on you." Yes this mystery build works, yes you don't have to res, but is that what he was talking about? --Vv W 01:59, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * or maybe he's saying that any comment he does have is probably correct about this build so dont shit on it cuz you obviously posted this build on pvx so that you could get comments and criticism, no? Sir Nothing 02:03, 29 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Sandy and I mainly posted this so that we could share it, we have been doing this run for months now and sharing it online might make it more popular. Unfortunately people who refuse to see how it actually works like to throw their comments out there.  --Vv W 02:06, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * people are free to comment on any build they please, and according to the comments so far on this page, it's not getting too popular Sir Nothing 02:09, 29 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, its their loss. My alliance at least has a guide to using this now. --Vv W 02:12, 29 August 2009 (UTC)


 * this needs to be a guide page rather than build--Relyk 16:15, September 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * Why is that? Sandy basically did put a guide into it, but that has been removed so that the video link is the only guide for it. This page only shows the builds now. --Vv W 04:46, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Need someone to run me to Remains of Shalaja and Kodash ^^ PM Me The Short Lich-- $ɧor₮  <font face="comic sans MS" color="teal">talk  14:31, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Tried soloing this.. took a lil practice but I found safe spots in which I can safely get over the sulphur. From Gate of Desolation to the comp mission I have screenies of the safe spots for the first half of sulphur but the second half I'm still working on. Build wise it was basic...Dwarven stab+dash+dark escape+shadow sanc+Deaths charge+Heart of Shadow. Really only needed dash+DS for the sulphur.Consitini 08:31, October 5, 2009 (UTC)


 * Try using Lively Was Naomei, that way instead of having someone else with you to resurrect you, you can do it yourself. I don't see the problem with resurrect if this solo build everyone talked about has a self res.--Vv W 22:44, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Is it possible 2 take on the mission storyline from kodash bazaar? If it is I would love to do this 2 skip some missions :D

Everyone knows that this mission is EASILY Hero and Henchable even in hard mode, right? I mean, you're in fucking Junundu Worms, you're basically invincible. Why would you make a build and waste cons when it is exponentially easier to just H/H it 02:29, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * lolautist. The build is to run through the desolation, not do the mission Gate of Desolation. Life   Guardian  02:36, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

works, just take 2 ppl, something most people here don't have.

Doesn't this seem a little exploiting
May be just me, but Anet made the haze for a reason, to make sure people don't do this kind of thing. Nightfall and Factions were made to be un skipable. Finding a bug that allows you to get through the haze I bet will be fixed soon. It isn't that hard and doesn't take that long to do a few missions. --24.159.219.162 20:54, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * you can't skip a step in the story line like prophecies and only rich people would bother with this since they cbf with a extremely boring storyline thats a waste of time--[[Image:Relyk chtistmas2.jpg|20px]] Christmas Relyk  23:21, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

You don't have to be rich, we charged 4k, and unless someone else is running this for a much higher price, it shouldn't be hard to pay. Sandy The Assassin 00:43, December 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * Sandy, I think he means that since you cannot skip any of the story by taking this run, and since the only reason to go out there then is for the armor, you will probably be at least temporarily rich. --Vv W 02:53, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Anon above me doesn't understand that anet has tried to make running harder about 3 or 4 times in 4+ years, and they couldn't possibly "fix" this because it's not a bug. If they made sulferous haze kill you instantly, tons of people would /rage the second they hit desolation and tried H/Hing it. And the run isn't really that useful and getting elite armor early isn't anything they would give a fuck about. <font color=Orange face="Comic Sans MS">Shazzy diddles 04:46, December 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * Mainly sandy and I saw it as a challenge to make a build capable of easily running a place that was once a popular spot. Back in the day all sorts of people made the run to vabbi for armor, but now its quite different.  All they would have to do to fix this is have the haze remove enchantments when it is applied. --Vv W 03:44, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * anet doesn't care--[[Image:Relyk chtistmas2.jpg|20px]] Christmas Relyk  03:47, December 9, 2009 (UTC)


 * Exactly --Vv W 15:58, December 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * removing enchants wouldnt stop the solo way, mabye just a wee bit harder with no dwarven...98.23.14.225 22:48, December 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * The solo way is slow enough that it is only for people who want a challenge, not for people who want vabbian armor early. --Vv W 16:59, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

Wow!
"Great Build Vv W! This looks really cool to use! I'm gonna try it once my friend gets on!", this is an example of what the build creators wanna hear. This is why I don't post builds to PvX. That and then all the noobs would swarm the running areas. --Xilarth The Wise
 * Neato<small style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Arial Unicode MS;border-style:solid;border-width:2px;border-color:white;background-color:brown;padding:1px 5px 2px 6px;"> Consitini  10:01, January 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * lol I was hoping more for constructive criticism when sandy and I put this build on pvx, not "Lol, this build is so shittertastic." Still, I am more than happy with the rating it got.--Vv W 05:05, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Archive?
Out of date build, easily soloable without cons with relatively the same speed. Either replace it with a desolation running guide or archive it. Demonic Sin Ex 03:02, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

I'd very much like to see you solo this in the same amount of time we can do it :) Sandy The Assassin 13:01, October 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * proven by showing :) Demonic Sin Ex 22:30, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Terrible Build...Easily Completed SOLO without ANY resurrection skills
Really bad build. FOR EXAMPLE, Gate of Desolation - Remains of Sahlahja can be completed in less than 3 minutes if done properly with any build that has a speed boost. No help from other players...no resurrection...no WURM...just pure skill and proper knowledge. Watch 1:04 - 1:34 on this video Video:Electric Celerity - Domination Trailer for proof or message me "Next Top Runner" in game. Btw the secrets of running Desolation (Not running on the edges)...will be revealed in a large, comprehensive guide set to be released by Electric Celerity in 2 months time. Keep an eye out for it. --Next Top Runner


 * It's not for running Gates - Remains, it's for running Sunspear Sanct to Kodash Bazaar. 204.31.133.119 14:47, October 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Gate of Desolation - Remains of Sahlahja is part of the Sunspear Sanctuary to Kodash Bazaar run. This "team" build is meant to mainly tackle the toughest of the sulfurous areas...which is the Sulfurous Wastes. --Next Top Runner


 * Correct. Of course it can be done solo but this is more reliable method. Not every one is pro like you and can solo the run.


 * Which is why i am creating a new solo build/guide and getting rid of this duo build. Demonic Sin Ex 21:26, October 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * I saw your new solo build, and even though it works it is not as easy. This build is for people who are not as skilled at the game.  I would appreciate it if you could keep any and all feedback on here constructive and talk about your solo build on its own page, which is found at . --Vv W 22:11, October 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * I understand that this is easier and more people can do it this way. I am NOT degrading anyone of lesser skill level than me...I actually appreciate the effort at running from SS to Kodash Bazaar from other runners.  Just stating that this is a not as good a way to do it and that there are more efficient and quicker ways of completing it.  I really don't want to be thought of as an arrogant, cocky, overconfident bum in this situation, just stating my two cents.  I am here to help and provide criticism on things I believe can use improvement upon because I care about the running community as a whole.  That means EVERY SINGLE runner regardless of skill level. --Next Top Runner 22:47, October 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh no, I geared that comment more toward Demonic Sin Ex and his "getting rid of this duo build" idea. --Vv W 00:30, October 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * By that I mean to archive this build, as the solo build is more efficent and equally reliable after a few practices. I have shown your friend Shady the run, and he seemed to like it.  Demonic Sin Ex 00:36, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * we'd probably delete this rather than archive since absolutely no one ran it except the authors--Relyk not@Wikia 02:53, October 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh well it was an unique build while it lasted lol. Demonic Sin Ex 06:38, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

That's not true, Relyk. I know several people who've run this build. 24.98.40.44 12:12, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Delete
Once again, delete this old build. Demonic Sin Ex 01:45, 25 November 2010 (UTC)