User talk:The Gates Assassin/Elites that should never be used



Just to name a few bad Monk elites. -- Guild of  Deals  16:16, 23 February 2008 (EST)
 * I'm debating on putting in:
 * Think they are bad enough?
 * Think they are bad enough?
 * Think they are bad enough?
 * Think they are bad enough?


 * Life Sheath isn't horribad, and BP is good in TA. --[[image:GoD Sig3.jpg|20px]] Guild of  Deals  16:41, 23 February 2008 (EST)
 * You're wrong about Palm Strike, go to my userpage and look down find the assa build there. [[Image:Sebsig.jpg|19px]]  Seb2net  (Talk)  16:49, 23 February 2008 (EST)
 * You are bad if you palm strike is bad tbh. not at all assasins need to have a super fast spike. see a/e aod sin. palm is a versatile elite albeit underpowered and WELL'd by others. --Dark0805 ( Rant /Contributions ) 16:53, 23 February 2008 (EST)
 * Not to be mean, but thats a terrible build for palm strike. It's a crappy elite. The after cast makes it a telegraph more than a good skill.--[[Image:GatessMoebius Strike Icon.jpg|20px]]The Gates  Assassin  17:03, 23 February 2008 (EST)
 * haha, you'll never understand the awesomeness of that one. [[Image:Sebsig.jpg|19px]]  Seb2net  (Talk)  17:05, 23 February 2008 (EST)
 * 75 + 80 + 130 + 100 = 385 damage spike. That is over the course of: 1.5 + 1.33 + 1.75 + .25 + 1.75 = 6.58 seconds. Pretty bad spike, not to mention if they move at all the spike is dead since they will be out of range of Viper's. It also lacks snare. I'm Guessing the awsomeness of that build is the bug in Heart of Shadow and Viper's Def that makes you poof to earshot instead of nerby?--[[Image:GatessMoebius Strike Icon.jpg|20px]]The Gates  Assassin  17:11, 23 February 2008 (EST)
 * Archive:A/any Deadly Arts Spike Sin has pretty much the same damage. And anyway, my build can easily fit in dark prison or my personal favorite: Shadowy Burden. [[Image:Sebsig.jpg|19px]]  Seb2net  (Talk)  17:54, 23 February 2008 (EST)
 * That can shadow step, snare, does 500 damage, 20 second recharge and is nearly all armor ignoring damage.--[[Image:GatessMoebius Strike Icon.jpg|20px]]The Gates  Assassin  18:17, 23 February 2008 (EST)
 * Where the heck does that damage come from? The only skill missing from my chain is falling spider. Are you counting poison? [[Image:Sebsig.jpg|19px]]  Seb2net  (Talk)  05:17, 24 February 2008 (EST)
 * I don't count degen for a spike. It takes way to long to do any real damage.--[[Image:GatessMoebius Strike Icon.jpg|20px]]The Gates  Assassin  14:55, 24 February 2008 (EST)

(Resetting) Illusionary is a niche skill, but by no means bad. It has its glory days and is still fun to pull out every now and then.  Seb2net  (Talk)  13:11, 28 February 2008 (EST)
 * Nah it is a pretty bad skill. A DPS of in the 40s exactly isn't good, mesmers in the frontline aren't either. Just take a warrior and get real damage. Would you ever run an IW in a serious GvG? Hell no--[[Image:GatessMoebius Strike Icon.jpg|20px]]The Gates  Assassin  14:18, 28 February 2008 (EST)


 * Honestly, 42 DPS is slightly more than Flare or auto-attacking. Mesmers are meant for shutdown IMO. --[[image:GoD Sig3.jpg|20px]] Guild of  Deals  07:38, 1 March 2008 (EST)
 * ...but thats all it can do. Flare sucks, its a fact. An auto attack is equal to that yes, however it enhances the damage. An axe is that + bonus damage. So IW is an auto attack you can't stop, an axe is that but with more damage and able to be stopped.--[[Image:GatessMoebius Strike Icon.jpg|20px]]<font face="Monotype corsiva">The <font face="Monotype corsiva">Gates  <font face="Monotype corsiva">Assassin  13:55, 1 March 2008 (EST)

Warrior:
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rant of disagreement
any more the eviscerate executioners strike spike dont work that much but its fairly effective. very weak against any type of anti-melee and shock is a costly interrupt skill. Misfate 12:41, 6 April 2008 (EDT)

Keystone Signet
Was fucking epic when it was at 10sec recharge. --71.229.204.25 01:09, 14 April 2008 (EDT)
 * That it was. WTB 15s recharge for it. <font color="#DD2200">Lord Belar 21:39, 14 April 2008 (EDT)

Palm Strike
Also you have to invest nearly 13 into critical strikes to make it worth it, which you can't always do. -_-'...--Relyk 11:20, 25 April 2008 (EDT)

It's terribad!  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ  11:28, 25 April 2008 (EDT)
 * I've seen the skill used. --[[Image:GatessMoebius Strike Icon.jpg|20px]]<font face="Monotype corsiva">The <font face="Monotype corsiva">Gates  <font face="Monotype corsiva">Assassin  15:28, 25 April 2008 (EDT)

Locust's fury?
Is super mega horribad and not on your list =P--Goldenstar 19:22, 23 June 2008 (EDT)
 * 0.0 oops--[[Image:GatessMoebius Strike Icon.jpg|20px]]<font face="Monotype corsiva">The <font face="Monotype corsiva">Gates  <font face="Monotype corsiva">Assassin  20:27, 23 June 2008 (EDT)
 * meh, too lazy atm.--[[Image:GatessMoebius Strike Icon.jpg|20px]]<font face="Monotype corsiva">The <font face="Monotype corsiva">Gates  <font face="Monotype corsiva">Assassin  20:28, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

some of these
got buffed. lyssa's aura now rocks, defy pain and flashing would both be decent in a good farming build, WotA does wonders on an A/E, etc. cba to look through all of them. though some still suck epically, of course.-- reason '''.  decrystallized '  I frenzy-healsig. '' 20:06, 10 October 2008 (EDT)
 * stay away from VoR its baaaaad.--<font color="Black">Simpson Man [[image:simpsonsig.png]] 20:22, 10 October 2008 (EDT)
 * VoR is amazing. ups two months late. 16:28, 11 December 2008 (EST)

wc
I remember playing ab with you and showing you my wastrel's collapse build and you thinking it was awesome. Smity Smitington 18:34, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Experts Dexterity
Unless your a LOL bow ranger in pve, and then you still should not be using it, there are better elites.
 * This list is years old, many of the elites have received significant buffs since he made this page. - Auron 10:57, September 8, 2010 (UTC)