Archive talk:A/any Beguiling Steel

Usage
This build was first created primarily used for GvG ganks. &mdash; Rapta   (talk|contribs) 13:40, 4 July 2007 (CEST)
 * So add gvg tags or..? - Skakid9090 13:41, 4 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Without Expose, this will fail. Readem (talk *pvxcontribs ) 13:43, 4 July 2007 (CEST)
 * it can easily replace burden =D.... in fact i say we change burden to expose or siphon since its costly and ineffective on daggers w/o SA - Skakid9090 13:45, 4 July 2007 (CEST)
 * -20 armor on a 60AL target =~ 33% AP? &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.216.123.72 (contribs) 07:43, 26 July 2007.

first used by me for RA monk killing actually. was pumping this build the day they turn beguile into a shadowstepdaze.

Checked and Reviewed
For Viability. Readem (talk *pvxcontribs ) 06:54, 7 June 2007 (CEST)

The attack chain can't be done that way. It should be like this: black lotus strike &rarr; twisting fangs &rarr; black spider strike &rarr; blades of steel. --Arthas 11:38, 10 June 2007 (CEST)
 * Right, excellent point. ‽-(єronħ)  no u 19:00, 10 June 2007 (CEST)
 * the beguiling haze pop up image is wrong, @ 12 shadow arts it should be 8 seconds, and this build also works for Competitive missions. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.167.78.115 (contribs) 10:33, 27 June 2007.
 * Everything works in CM. This doesn't work better there then a SP sin since caster's usually can't do mutch against you there anyway. Haze is nice to daze monks so they can't protect themselves against the spike. Unexist 21:04, 8 July 2007 (CEST)

Unfortunatly Black lotus strike is a lead attack ?(nerf i dunno) so tiwstign fangs cannot follow it so it is a useless build now Ace 22:53, 22 November 2007 (CET)

A BH/Recall sin could become very powerful in GW:EN. - Krowman    19:03, 30 July 2007 (CEST)

I just saw one of these running GoLE to counter the energy costs for Shadow + BH. &mdash; Rapta   (talk|contribs) 17:55, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

Thats a pretty smart idea.--Atlas Oranos 20:07, 2 August 2007 (CEST)
 * pretty wierd one though, this bar is already low on space outside of the spike. Alpha fireborn 05:29, 8 August 2007 (CEST)

Viable - energy?
How is this viable? Its a 53 energy chain (including black lotus gain)... doesn't even meet +3 crits &mdash; Skuld 23:48, 28 August 2007 (CEST)


 * I have no idea either. It makes no sense at all to me.[[Image:Healer's Boon.jpg|19px]]  MasterOf Guild's  00:06, 8 September 2007 (CEST)
 * I use it with Zealous +5energy Daggers and full radiant armor. That's 38 energy. 10e ShadowBurden (28e) 15e BeguilingHaze (13e) 10e BlackLotusStrike (20e+1zealous+1naturalregen) 10e TwistingFangs (10e+1z+1z+1nr) 10e BlackSpiderStrike (3e+1z+1nr) 5e BladesOfSteel (1+1z+1z+1naturalregen). And that's not counting critical hits. You can add a rune of attunement to your armor to get 40e and have some more leway, but you can pull off the whole combo with 38 energy. It worked perfectly well before the nerf... you might want to wait 1 or 2 seconds after using shadow burden to start chain. --Lann 22:09, 12 September 2007 (CEST)
 * The perfect amount of time for the target to get the hex removed, great. -Sardaukar Blackfang 00:45, 29 October 2007 (CET)

Nerfed
no longer effective due to Black Lotus Strike nerfAbadabadoo 22:56, 15 November 2007 (CET)