User talk:Sannse

Hey. I would've used my own welcome template but it isn't suit for people who don't make builds ;< -- &mdash; 16:14, 25 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the welcome! -- sannse (talk)

Dear Sannse
I've not been an active administrator on this wiki for quite some time, so the recent decision with regard to checkuser status is unlikely to impact me. Indeed, I'm not even particularly opposed to the notion of unflagging inactive administrators, per se. What I do not understand, however, is why decisions are being made by wikia more or less without the consent of PvX's administrative team, in particular, the bureaucrats. Though inactive, I appreciate the fact that PvX has been treated relatively well by Wikia, and I fail to see what wikia stands to gain by interfering with day-to-day administrative decisions. Honestly, what possible difference does it make from your POV if we have one user capable of accessing checkuser or ten? And if we'd like to add a few more, so what? The fact that one might be sufficient is, frankly, irrelevant. Who cares if they're "necessary" or not? If we decided to give fifty additional users sysop status, would you tell us that we couldn't because fifty was too many?

To be fair, you did provide a reason, so let's take a brief look at that reason, shall we? You stated in your General message that "we would like to move PvX a little closer to the rest of the wikis on Wikia." Unfortunately, that statement is inherently problematic: PvX is intrinsically different from other wikis. Checkuser is a far more important tool for PvX than for the vast majority of more traditional (read: encyclopedic) wikis simply by virtue of the fact that PvX is oriented around a voting system, not to speak of the unusual prevalence of trolling. More to the point, however, how exactly does reducing/limiting the number of people with checkuser status move PvX closer to the rest of wikia? The fact that we have more users with checkuser than most strikes me as an exceedingly insignificant difference. It's not as though a new user is likely to look at the local user list and say "huh, this wiki has 23 users with the checkuser flag, I guess this can't be a wikia wiki." Frankly, I'm amazed that wikia considers the number of checkusers that a particular wiki has more important than maintaining the best possible relationship with that wiki.

On behalf of the administrative team here, I'd like to formally request that you restore checkuser flags to all administrators. Either that, or I'd like a much more compelling explanation as to why wikia has an interest in limiting the number of administrators with checkuser and as to why wikia is making decisions on behalf of the administrative team sans consultation. *Defiant Elements*  +talk  21:05, December 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, sorry for the delay, I have replied alongside the original conversation -- sannse (talk) 05:52, December 20, 2009 (UTC)