Archive talk:Rt/N Hybrid Caretaker

Very common among high ranked HB-players. Can someone set it to Rt/N? --Luuck 15:14, 15 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Gj getting the bar wrong off observ. No essence strike, you use rip enchant, WoS is shit, you run resilient weapon--Goldenstar 15:24, 15 March 2008 (EDT)


 * What observ have u been using? This is pretty much the standard. Try again. --Luuck 21:37, 15 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Moved to Rt/N--Manbeast15 02:30, 16 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Thx mate :) --Luuck 06:32, 16 March 2008 (EDT)

Isn't Caretaker's Charge considered to be a bad elite? Yagami 16:56, 17 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Cleaned up the discussion stack :P It is outside of HB. Most HB players use it because it's great for self-preservation while dealing decent damage at the same time. --Luuck 17:54, 17 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Aye, you're going to be holding ashes all the time so it's a free 71 damage and 47 health every 4 seconds, it's nice pressure--Goldenstar 18:08, 17 March 2008 (EDT)

Rip Enchantment imo, pwns Rend. Soothing Memeories sux, E-management is fine, bring spirit light. Is Life better than Pain or is it not needed? I'd say WoW is better than WoS too, but I dont do HB so. Or do hero builds work different from normal for those skills....--Relyk 21:43, 17 March 2008 (EDT)
 * The benefit of WoS is its role as a counter-counter-blockway. In other words, blind stops dying alot better than a 50% block that can be penalized/circumvented with Defile Defenses or any of the other counter-blockway.  I don't HB, though, so I couldn't say which is better in HB meta. --[[Image:Mafaraxas_sig.jpg|click moar]] Mafaraxas  22:53, 17 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Wep of shadow is better because the monk has gaurdian and blocking is far more easily countered. WoS forces someone to switch targets, WoW forces them to click Rigor Mortis xD Rainbow Ftw
 * Rend Enchantments is more standard because you can micro it before spiking. Removing all enchantments at the same time is also a lot more useful than removing one and then giving time to recast. --Luuck 03:22, 18 March 2008 (EDT)

think i rem seen some Spirit Burn06:11, 18 March 2008 (EDT)~
 * I press 'v' for rigor... 24.141.45.72 17:02, 18 March 2008 (EDT)
 * I click everything... Rainbow Ftw

Like i said, WoS sucks, Resilient Weapon is much better as it's anti-spike and anti-pressure thqat can be maintained permanently. Rend is necessary for spikes but essence strike should be rip enchantment. Like it said, whoever did this bar pulled it off observ wrong.--Goldenstar 16:33, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
 * I'm agreeing with Goldenstar on that.--Relyk 21:35, 19 March 2008 (EDT)

curses should be lowered ; hardly ANYONE has 7 enchantments on them 99.230.8.105 22:17, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
 * It's to lower the penalty per enchantment. Perhaps ur right tho. --Luuck 03:14, 20 March 2008 (EDT)
 * also, WoS is the best option for a player monk using this hero; Resilient weapon is not needed in thisbuild as Prot Was Kaloai adds an armour bonus anyway... WoS is a much better spike stopper, resilient weapon's effects aren't as useful in HB as it stands with the chance of facing fast spikes outweighing the likely-hood of pressure builds. Btw Goldenstar I'm actually on observe, not copying from it... ltp HB plz. srsly am I only the onyl person on here with any top 100 HB experience?Rainbow Ftw

"utilising Caretaker's Charge in combination with Protective Was Kaolai to deal significant damage."
It doesnt give any extra damage using prot was kaolai... just a health and energy management synergy..
 * The point is that it's more spammable because of the e-manage, thus more pressure. --[[Image:Mafaraxas_sig.jpg|click moar]] Mafaraxas 13:57, 20 March 2008 (EDT)
 * I'd hope your using an item with caretakers O.o--Relyk 00:46, 21 March 2008 (EDT)

Did you even see the build ? Asrael 12:07, 21 March 2008 (EDT)
 * he was pointing out you should never use caretakers without items

Its meta
Its meta, should be vtd Great or something because its one of the most popular solocappers atm. --Igor 06:49, 21 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Needs one more vote to become great. God  box   12:33, 21 March 2008 (EDT)

Useable in Ra?
I think this is useable in Ra and Ab too. Why this have no Ra tag? Illoyon 17:35, 17 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Because there's plenty of better things to run as a rit. This is here only because the bar is very hero-friendly.  And high-ranked folks have used it. --[[Image:Mafaraxas_sig.jpg|click moar]] Mafaraxas  17:53, 17 April 2008 (EDT)

TBH
Make it Rt/Any with an optional slot with dash/recall/rend/rigor/utility skill of choice--Golden Star 13:22, 15 August 2008 (EDT)

WoW vs WoS
In mainbar. Discuss. 17:07, 16 December 2008 (EST)
 * In HB the blind is bettur, mainly because of Rigor. --F rosty 17:09, 16 December 2008 (EST)