Talk:PvX wiki/Archive 13

Get Ready To Trash Builds

 * Feedback:Skill update previews/20110317 --96.240.34.47 03:55, 18 March 2011 (UTC)


 * fuck--Bluetapeboy 03:47, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Flux
gww:Flux. What response, if any, should PvX have relative to this? I thought that either a small template for the front page, describing briefly the Flux condition as it changes, or creating a new category for vetted builds (and only vetted builds) to be placed into if it is determined that they thrive in that Flux condition of that month would suffice (i.e. Ganking builds in the current Flux, Lone Wolf). This of course would entail a janitorial duty, likely new policy, and not-a-few trashed builds made "purely for this month's condition", but it merits addressing at the least. I would of course volunteer to upkeep the category personally, as to reduce the load on the active Admins as much as possible. Aonsephonie 22:25, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * +1. Anvil God 22:40, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Make a page called Flux, put the info on it, we'll link it as a news article once it's written up. - Auron 23:30, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Like Auron said. I haven't played much in quite a while (and definatly not PvP), but i personaly don't see Lone wolf (not I said lone wolf, not flux), being an issue in terms of the builds being submited (as in, it won't effect them, just the tactics with which you play).
 * If later Flux's actually effect builds more directly, then it might be worth thinking beyond the scope of the info page.  ~ PheNaxKian talk  23:37, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The idea was more to direct users to builds which may be more effective as a result of Flux(es), rather than change the way that builds are vetted or submitted. I think the news page well achieves this. Aonsephonie 00:18, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * User:Aonsephonie/Flux. Aonsephonie 00:51, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

3/7 hero
Hey everybody, I have a suggest that we remove all the general hero team builds and the general hero builds and put them all in one meta general hero team page. Right now there are a lot of 3 hero team builds which are now useless and a lot of very similar general 7 hero team builds. Also there are many general hero builds that are a part of a team and also listed under different team builds. I feel that this is ineffective and unorganized. I would do it all myself but I do not know how everybody feels about that. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 173.20.190.196 (talk &bull; contribs) 16:48, 20 May 2011 (UTC).
 * We won't be doing that because:


 * 1) There are zones within guild-wars with max party size of 4
 * 2) Certain hero builds don't mesh together
 * 3) If you wanted an enormous page with every individual possible hero build ever made... we would trash it. Just doesn't look neat enough. -- [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px|link=User:Chieftain Alex]] Chieftain   Alex  17:21, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

The page could show recommended heros for 4 person parties. You could mention hero builds that don't work together. There are not that many good hero builds that would be placed on the page. Having many different pages with one or partial hero builds isn't very neat either, but they are still maintained. I just think people would like to go to one general hero meta page instead of many different ones to find good hero setups, but I can see why no one is interested.
 * So you'd want multiple different setups on the same page? How would that be vetted? The reason we have separate pages for builds is so they can each be vetted on their own. What would really be gained from putting D/S/M, Racway, Sabway, Discord and RoJway (+ etc.) on the same page? --  Toraen   talk  16:59, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

I guess your right. I just have bad internet so I disconnect when im checking out builds here. If they were all on the same page it wouldn't matter.

7 Necro Heroes
So who wants to make the 7-necro discord team? ^^ DarkMugen 17:43, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
 * No. Just, no. -- Jai . -  17:48, May 27 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks like the 7 discord hero idea, the first thing that probably comes up in every noob's mind, has finally reached PvX after a while... kill it with fire! Vorpal [[Image:Ether Renewal.jpg|19px]] 18:27, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Use 8-man. Run /N and run both Necrosis and Discord like an Architect. [[Image:AsuraSignature.jpg|15px]] Anvil God  zzz...  20:58, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Redesign?
I've been building up a list of stuff that needs to be done with the main page for a while, and I think it's time to actually get some of it done. Mostly because I'm bored and have little else to do here, and partially because someone brought up splitting FA/JQ from CM recently, so why not get a bunch of other stuff with it? That's all I can think of for now. --  Toraen   talk  03:33, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * New User Guide: This really needs a place on the page, or else we'll need to spam it at every new user (we may want to do that anyway).
 * Flux: Needs to be on the page as well, alongside the name of the current flux (which can link to the GW/GWW page)
 * Portal bar: Maybe just remove it, since the portals are actually fairly inefficient for getting to builds and the guides are largely unfinished and unused. They are also linked from the Builds by Category section anyway (except Codex obviously but who cares we don't even store builds for it). Links to categories of game-related guides can replace it, and I think would be better than just a single link to Category:Guides. Maybe move it down from the top section if we do this though.
 * Builds Section: it's kinda bloated honestly
 * Cutting down the featured builds sections: There are barely enough builds in trial to fill 4 slots anymore, and I really think we'd be fine with 2 (or even 1) slots for each section (tested, untested, trial). I'd like to set up Autowikibrowser or something to rotate the builds more frequently (oh hey, I'm an admin so we can bring Auto-Toraen back!).
 * Integrate Build Pack links with the Builds by Category section: Fairly obvious
 * Builds by Campaign: entirely useless thanks to PvX:WELL and has to be updated for each build manually. Many builds are not tagged at all for this and I don't see any reason to when virtually all of them would end up with multi-campaign.
 * FA/JQ split: They're areas with very different requirements. Some builds are valid in both, but then we can just throw both tags on. Makes builds easier to find and isn't that hard to do.
 * Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Not to mention getting all the campaigns + EotN is like $40. And yerr, I would have preferred that a while ago. -- Jai . -  03:56, July 12 2011 (UTC)
 * FA/JQ should've been split from the start, not that anyone cared about them until more recent changes, specifically the most recent one. Agree with the rest although it doesn't seem like it would be worth the effort to mess with portals.-- Relyk 05:54, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Another benefit of this split: people can't just tag a build for CM ambiguously anymore to make a build seem more useful than it actually is. --  Toraen   talk  07:19, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The sad part is that once we're done we'll probably have about 5 builds for each area. -- Jai . -  14:10, July 12 2011 (UTC)
 * Acceptable since that's basically what those areas consist of. --  Toraen   talk  14:24, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * That's the sad part. -- Jai . -  22:48, July 12 2011 (UTC)

Crap, I've been leaving minor edit on. Anyway, got some changes on the editcopy and I'd like some feedback. The top section is asymmetrical now, but I couldn't get everything to fit otherwise (I don't really want to add another row to it but I might have to). I've got to head out so I can't do anymore just now though. --  Toraen   talk  21:13, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Maybe make featured for general, SC and hero to fill space? 82.95.65.117 21:38, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to reduce clutter on the main page, and also having a featured build for each area would take up a lot of space. I left the PvP side alone for comparison, it obviously wouldn't stay that way. --  Toraen   talk  02:50, 14 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Add the Daily Zaishen Combat (PvP) under the Flux, at least. Maybe more.  —ǥrɩɳsɧƴ ɖɩđđɭɘş  [[Image:Grinshpon blinky cake.gif|19px]] 07:03, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I suppose you mean link to guildwarswiki for zaishen combat rather than update daily ourselves-- Relyk 08:12, 14 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Why? Just be like: Zaishen Combat: Guild versus Guild Zaishen Mission: gw:Some PvE mission Zaishen Vanquish: gw:PvE land Could that be done through something like an RSS feed or whatnot? We might as well have that on the front page. "Oh, a quest, lemme grab a build." That's pretty much why I come on here, other than to lurk around and see if an admin is needed.  —ǥrɩɳsɧƴ ɖɩđđɭɘş  [[Image:Grinshpon blinky cake.gif|19px]] 16:41, 14 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Quick points:
 * a) I know of no RSS feed that would enable what Grinch wants (admittedly i've only looked at gw.com and gww, so it may be out there one some other fan site I don't frequent).
 * b) before somebody brings it up, no we can't do it like gww (we lack the extensions, and even if we did I'd rather not steal the code for that system (it's complex for a wiki >>))
 *  ~ PheNaxKian talk  18:58, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Footer
It has the wrong license again. --  Toraen   talk  05:28, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't notice this section. Just told Bumble.  ~ PheNaxKian talk  17:13, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

HELP
I am a new user, why can't i create/edit my user page? I want to do a new build. Thanks for attention -  Tiagos1 10:55, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Other users have had this issue. Toraen has been working at it for the past week or so. You'll likely have to be patient and get autoconfirmed-- Relyk 11:53, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * That sucks. Thanks anyway - Tiagos1 12:03, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

help
how do i make a new build


 * PvXwiki:About, PvXwiki:Style and formatting, PvXwiki:Writing good builds, PvXwiki:Build_Naming_Policy in that order.  —ǥrɩɳsɧƴ ɖɩđđɭɘş  [[Image:Grinshpon blinky cake.gif|19px]] 16:59, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * You may also not be able to (I'd have to check our filters to be sure). I belive currently unregistered/new users can't create pages (there's been a lot of spam recently so some things features for unknown/new users have been restricted).  ~ PheNaxKian talk  17:05, 25 July 2011 (UTC)


 * That was me at the top there, I made an account now, so how can I post my build anywhere, like my userpage even? I cant seem to edit my userpage. MysticIntervention 17:12, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The restrictions apply to IPs and New users, and prevent you from uploading images or creating any pages other than your talk. We're trying to get them lifted (they're based server-side, so only Curse admins can modify it), but we need a different captcha installed so we can do that without getting a bunch of junk pages from spambots. As a temporary solution, make a link in PvXwiki:Sandbox to the name of a build you want to create, and ask someone to make that page for you so you can edit it (I'll try to periodically check the sandbox). --  Toraen   talk  17:23, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

PvP Section
This could do with a ridiculous amount of clearing up, can't leave you guys in charge of anything! I'll probably roll through it tonight and change everything (minus the gvg section, i have barely played recently, just HA and RA really) tag some shit for archiving and post ALOT of builds. Can't really do it when I'm at work so... Also, are there any pvp players left visiting the site except jake? Rawr 10:48, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok maybe not tonight as im off out but another day soon... Rawr 18:54, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I should just rfmc you now right? --  Toraen   talk  01:28, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I tombs now and then. I obs as well. I just cbf to take control of that mess. Gl to you sir. Vincent Evan [Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 02:05, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I used to play quite a bit of tombs and top 100gvg(as if top100 even matters anymore tho :/) till past month or so, still checking site tho. I can help write up builds whenever i'm on tho. Roland 05:55, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Now looking at sunday until i'll have time to do anything (between work girlfriend & going out) anyway so have time for that meta caretaker thing to go through, does it give abilities like BM used to or does it just let me slap on meta tags? Could do with a group of bandwagoners like i used to have to get builds into their proper rating section within a couple minutes ^_^ Rawr 10:35, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Lets you denote builds as no longer being relevant to the section they're in, introduce new meta pvp builds by whapping meta tag on it without voting, but doesn't give BM status (role no longer exists) - so you can't change votes iirc. -- [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px|link=User:Chieftain Alex]] Chieftain  Alex  14:22, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks, i will wait for that to go through then before writing most up. Btw, who are you? No offence just wondering as i should of known you if you were around in BM days? 213.131.109.129 15:36, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm a whoru, except the rest of regular pvx trolls have stopped visiting, so I'm more prominent. So no you shouldn't know me. -- [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px|link=User:Chieftain Alex]] Chieftain <font face="Calibri" color=CC6633 size="2.5"> Alex  15:39, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
 * To be honest nearly all of the good people left like a year or 2 before i stopped contributing anyway - not so much a fan of alot of the people towards the end of pvx (paticularly the ones who clearly had no idea what they were talking about but INSISTED they were right all the time) Rawr 15:43, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Sounds like PvX throughout it existence for the most part. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 16:54, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Hello! i am newbe
Hello! i am new! what's up? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.192.15.83 (talk) at 13:41, 23 August 2011 (UTC).
 * look up and see for yourself. -- Jai . -  14:17, August 23 2011 (UTC)
 * This looks like random vandal post to me. -- [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px|link=User:Chieftain Alex]] <font face="Calibri" color="Black" size="2.5">Chieftain <font face="Calibri" color=CC6633 size="2.5"> Alex  10:53, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

PvP Skills in skillbars
Can we have a page or something set up to let people know that PvP skills in the template make the code unusable/unreadable by guild wars? No More  Mr Nice  Sin  12:35, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * That would be the most recent news post, basically. Feel free to remove any PvP skills from bars if you've got the time. I'm going to go through myself later and fix all of them since the fix doesn't seem to be as easy as we thought. --  Toraen   talk  14:32, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Metadescription
Hi guys, I just wanted to let you know (if you don't have one already), our new wiki manager Tesla will be adding a metadescription to your mainpage, if you don't like the way it's written. Feel free to rewrite it, it's designed specifically for Google search though and should be well written already. (: -- Bumble talk 15:58, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Seems like it didn't work. Metadesc isn't in our parser tag list, so I'm guessing the extension isn't actually live for some reason. --  Toraen   talk  23:46, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Google Trends for PvX
Holy shit who are all these Fins :D  <font face="Calibri" color="Black" size="2.5">Chieftain  <font face="Calibri" color=CC6633 size="2.5"> Alex  15:50, 7 December 2011 (UTC)