Archive talk:W/Me Hex Breaker Axe

Also ta tag on this plz, this owns Hax necro's. - Unexist  16:21, 16 February 2008 (EST)
 * its done, majesty.-- AESTHE  T  I  C 
 * Parasitic Bond? -Shen 17:54, 16 February 2008 (EST)
 * Lol, yeah. This is easily countered. Rickyvantof 18:23, 16 February 2008 (EST)
 * not rly. still buys you an initial 3-4 seconds of not being hexed, which is huge.  Thc 22:11, 16 February 2008 (EST)
 * A bit decent communication and it's actually leet when they're pb'ing, since your ranger is prepared for a reckless/faintheartness then. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  10:26, 17 February 2008 (EST)
 * if your running this against anti-melee in TA have your monk veil you for awsomeness.-- AESTHE  T  I  C 
 * I thought Hex breaker functioned like Spell Breaker, but it doesn't, so never mind. -Shen 09:34, 17 February 2008 (EST)

There aren't enough anti-melee hexes in GvG to warrent the tag. Blind and blocking are used much more often. Needs to have GvG tag removed. 76.89.84.136 01:52, 17 February 2008 (EST)
 * Sineptitude. &mdash;  Skadiddly [슴Mc슴] Diddles  01:53, 17 February 2008 (EST)
 * have you obs much in the last 2 months? B-surge isn't meta. and blockway meta is changing from AoG buff.Sineptitude is common lately.-- AESTHE  T  I  C 

All these different Eviscerate Warrior pages for what is basically the same build are such a waste. We need to have a single Eviscerate Warrior template page:

The only current Eviscerate Warrior build that really deserves a separate page is this one - http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:W/D_Harrier%27s_Axe. Zuranthium 02:42, 17 February 2008 (EST)
 * I think we should use the Shock Axe as a main (since it's the best), and put all of the other utilities (rtouch, hex breaker, death's charge) as optionals. &mdash;  Skadiddly [슴Mc슴] Diddles  02:46, 17 February 2008 (EST)
 * That's going to be one hell of a usage section. --71.229 02:48, 17 February 2008 (EST)
 * Meh, it's not like it's hard to understand how to use Rending Touch, D-Dagger, Hex Breaker, etc. Shock is the one that actually could use some advice on how to utilize it most effectively. Zuranthium 03:04, 17 February 2008 (EST)
 * I mean more on how many goddamn subsections there are going to have to be. --71.229 03:06, 17 February 2008 (EST)
 * If we merge we must make a general ranger build, usages are just a similar as the different evisc axe builds are.-- AESTHE  T  I  C 
 * NO.       &mdash;  Skadiddly [슴Mc슴] Diddles  03:12, 17 February 2008 (EST)


 * Lol, yeah, the Ranger builds need to be separate. They have different Elites and usages. All these various Axe builds have basically the same purpose. That's the only reason why I think the W/D Harrier's Haste + Natural Healing Eviscerate Warrior should be on its own page in comparison to these other ones - because it's specifically built more towards splitting. Zuranthium 03:27, 17 February 2008 (EST)
 * Yes.       -- AESTHE  T  I  C 
 * oh and if you copy/paste that or squint your gay.-- AESTHE  T  I  C 

It's not my problem the builds section will be clogged up with 12093 more or less the same builds. It might be a bit confusing for the ordinary n00bz0rz, but again, that's not my problem. Rickyvantof 06:20, 17 February 2008 (EST)

Meh, I don't really see the point of this. Sineptitude just spams, easily going through Hex Breaker. --Readem 10:14, 17 February 2008 (EST)
 * A bit decent timing and you have a useless ineptitude. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  10:28, 17 February 2008 (EST)
 * In RA it's a good counter against SS. Lotsa Necro's carry that. Rickyvantof 11:23, 17 February 2008 (EST)
 * Er, no. They have 3 clum spammers. With various hexes. They can still rape you. Oh, and this is uselss in RA. Just use pbond on the war twice. --Readem 11:31, 17 February 2008 (EST)
 * It's still going to serve you better than Shock. With Hex Breaker you atleast have a chance of getting the occasional spike though. --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]Tab  Moo  11:32, 17 February 2008 (EST)
 * Funny thing is, I doubt anyone going to PvX will choose this over a shock axe/rending touch warrior. Rickyvantof 11:34, 17 February 2008 (EST)
 * I doubt anyone would choose this over shock axe, anywhere. --Readem 11:35, 17 February 2008 (EST)
 * Sineptitude counter. Shock isn't going to do anything for you if you can't hit anything. --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]Tab  Moo  11:36, 17 February 2008 (EST)
 * Frankly, shock is a touch skill, so it will do anything for me if I can't hit anything. Rickyvantof 11:38, 17 February 2008 (EST)
 * Frankly, if you aren't going to contribute to a discussion, don't bother. The fact is against 3 Ineptitude messes, you aren't going to get anything done while they're KDed. --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]Tab  Moo  11:41, 17 February 2008 (EST)
 * This will save you from having to cancel frenzy, then wait for your monks to heal/draw alot of times TBH. alot easier to get spikes through when your unnafected by the next 2 hexes.-- AESTHE  T  I  C 
 * As a Warrior, you'll never be spiking solo, at least, when you're doing it properly, so a Shock is definitly more useful, for any other warriors, sins or derv spiking along with you. Even if you are blinded/unable to hit, it's useful. Rickyvantof 17:19, 17 February 2008 (EST)

This is still pretty worthless. Unless you know you are going to spec against Hexway or ineptisins, hex breaker is shit in comparison to shock-train. --Readem 18:20, 17 February 2008 (EST)
 * even though shock is useful when your unable to hit, being able to hit is more useful...-- AESTHE  T  I  C 
 * oh and readem on your vote you needa think this is for more then gvg, in RA i would never run shock axe over this, cuz 1 skill could shut it down.-- AESTHE  T  I  C 
 * In ra, you would always be running shock axe over this, since you don't have that much hex necro's, and otherwise they just p-bond and hex you again. In ta, they will also do p-bond, but it gives your ranger a warning so he'll be dshotting the real hex. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  09:55, 18 February 2008 (EST)
 * people in RA are stupid though, they use IP on you then start attacking you with a sword, and call you noob if they kill you.-- AESTHE  T  I  C 
 * What does IP Mean? Colonel Hawk 00:26, 19 February 2008 (EST)
 * Insidious Parasite. --Readem 00:45, 19 February 2008 (EST)

This build is simply terrible. No one who doesn't fail at TA would run this. You run either shock or rend (and sometimes plague touch). Also, eviscerate is sub par in comparison to cripslash/BB/dev hammer (in coordinated 4v4). Unless you know you are going against hexway/ineptisins (which isn't really viable anymore, as said by ensign on guru), you bring shock. Shock is by far, the best utility a Warrior can bring in a balanced build. So go ahead guys, spec against hex pressure and lose 80% of your matches. I really don't care tbh. --Readem 01:07, 19 February 2008 (EST)
 * You're right about that other stuff are better 4v4, but still, it's good enough to have documented. Otherwise like 3/4 of the pvx builds could be deleted, since you wouldn't run em anyway. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  08:17, 19 February 2008 (EST)

:O
This lookz gud.
 * thanks, please sign your comments though (~) .-- AESTHE  T  I  C 

Dchop imo

Lame
If your have hex breaker up, your not using frenzy enough, frenzy = more pressure, hence, this build is epic fail
 * ... --Dark0805 ( Rant /Contributions ) 12:15, 19 February 2008 (EST)


 * No u. God  box   12:22, 19 February 2008 (EST)
 * indeed. --Dark0805 ( Rant /<font color=#ff11aa>Contributions ) 12:25, 19 February 2008 (EST)
 * lolwut u so nub Rickyvantof 12:27, 19 February 2008 (EST)

You guys do know that Hex Breaker is now a Skill and not a Stance, right? So Frenzy and Hex Breaker will stack. Spaggage 12:39, 19 February 2008 (EST)
 * Exactly. thats why i expressed my problem with that idiots comment about it being lame. --Dark0805 ( Rant /<font color=#ff11aa>Contributions ) 16:05, 19 February 2008 (EST)

Rickyvantof
"Leave Hex removal to your supporters."

Chances are Ineptitude isn't going to be manually removed. Correct me if I'm wrong. -<font color="Black">Shen 18:53, 19 February 2008 (EST)
 * He also thinks Hex breaker is a stance, his vote is fail, so is readems, but w/e.-- AESTHE  T  I  C 
 * [DD axe vote] i think he is just against this build, p-spike can be used as a ranged interupt (from full range) and hex countering>Heal Sig for TA.-- AESTHE  T  I  C 

I herd people baed at the game, use this over shock. c/d? If you merely theory-craft, gtfo. There is a reason this has never been used in top level play. There is a reason no one in TA runs this (including Cirque, Arrowz, Duham, Greg, Iso, and people in [Wins]). Ineptisins is now beatable without having to spec (heard reading guru is good). Besides, put this into the variants of another build. Not like maintaining Hex Breaker, needs a full on page of explanation. ffs. --<font color="Black">Readem 19:22, 19 February 2008 (EST)
 * should be assigned to AT GvG cat or something - Rawrawr  19:28, 19 February 2008 (EST)
 * I hope you aren't addressing me. I'm pointing out what I see to be an irrelevant comment. -<font color="Black">Shen 19:51, 19 February 2008 (EST)
 * No, merely all of the people who think this will be the next meta, and that it is actually useful. --<font color="Black">Readem 20:00, 19 February 2008 (EST)
 * It is useful,not as useful as shock axe, but i just wanna know why you rated this a 2 and Disrupting Axe a 4 when this can int from full distance + has some hex countering.-- AESTHE  T  I  C 
 * DD is better than any Mesmer int for frontliners. Also, you can run a shadowstep or something on a W/A, which is much better than Mesmer utilities. Moush 00:31, 20 February 2008 (EST)
 * Shadow Axe was popular. This has never been. People run DD/Pspike for different reasons. Pspike, is for builds such a rawrspike, which generally has few ways to disrupt aegis. DD however, can also interrupt vital res sigs and split, but suffers from after-cast delay and obstacles. --<font color="Black">Readem 01:13, 20 February 2008 (EST)

Lol. I don't think Hex Breaker is a Stance... Rickyvantof 01:12, 20 February 2008 (EST)
 * Lulz, gud. --<font color="Black">Readem 01:13, 20 February 2008 (EST)


 * You don't? God  box   10:28, 20 February 2008 (EST)
 * I don't. Rickyvantof 15:52, 20 February 2008 (EST)
 * By bad, seems like you do with comments above.-- AESTHE  T  I  C 

Hex Breaker not for warriors anymore?
I think we need to try hexbreaker with d/me as they have IAS as enchantment. --Rimo 04:30, 18 April 2008 (EDT)
 * /agreed.[[Image:Impossible_Odds.jpg‎|19px]] Frans  04:33, 18 April 2008 (EDT)
 * archive? --[[Image:Rebirth Infidel.jpg|21px]] <font color="Black">aesthetic
 * skill changes are only for 2 weeks.--[[Image:Rebirth Infidel.jpg|21px]] <font color="Black">aesthetic
 * Yes, but it shows at least what they have in mind, btw i still made a d/m before i knew it was only temp. Ive been playing it very succesfully in RA. --Rimo 18:01, 18 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Then we Archive it if it's still nerfed in two weeks, hurf durf.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 18:05, 18 April 2008 (EDT)

Archive
Hex Breaker r stance now. This should b archived imo. <font color="Red">Frost  <font color="Pink">eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!  03:02, 23 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Done. ~ <font color="#444">ĐONT <font color="#444">* <font color="#444">TALK  11:11, 23 May 2008 (EDT)