Archive talk:Team - GvG Dervspike

gotta love it when you can dedicate 6 players to utility and support because only 2 are needed for damage. Bob fregman 13:26, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Usage sections? Also, I always thought the spike went Wearying&rarr;Chilling&rarr;Mystic, not Wearying&rarr;Mystic&rarr;Chilling (as it's ordered now). -- Mafaraxas 14:36, 21 January 2008 (EST)
 * Wearying->Mystic. Chilling is mainly for farming NPCs and stuff. --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]Tab  Moo  17:00, 21 January 2008 (EST)
 * lol our build got jacked if this is k i n k y that posted this, or some1 from [time] or [bro] tsk tsk man, tsk tsk. himynameisbobbyjoe 14:43, 21 January 2008 (EST)
 * 3 month old dR build. Better luck next time. --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]Tab  Moo  16:10, 21 January 2008 (EST)
 * Was going to say something myself, but wasn't sure whether or not it was dR, heh. --[[Image:Mafaraxas_sig.jpg|click moar]] Mafaraxas 16:59, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Heart of Fury, good for pressuring in between spikes and also during spikes, so your attacks hit faster.- Jak123X 15:59, 21 January 2008 (EST)
 * There's not really room on the derv bars for that. --[[Image:Mafaraxas_sig.jpg|click moar]] Mafaraxas 16:59, 21 January 2008 (EST)
 * The Derv builds are confusing since you don't put in a usage section or something for whether the rit powers SoMS with judge's insight or something. And wouldn't you put draw on the monk or ele, or is that just HA? I agree that Heart of Fury would be more useful than guiding hands, or i guess the other team magically pre-prot's when a derv shadowsteps to them.
 * They do if they don't suck. --71.229.204.25 23:20, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Why not put in sundering weapon on the rit/mo? One splinter on the derv, the other sundering for condition stack.

You might want Shadow Walk, Dash, and Heart of Fury on those Derv Bars. &mdash; Rapta   (talk|contribs) 23:06, 21 January 2008 (EST)
 * Thats more the ha VERSION. oops caps &mdash;  Skadiddly [슴Mc슴] Diddles  23:10, 21 January 2008 (EST)
 * Tell [apr] that. O_o &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 23:17, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Build suited best for AT? Why? @AT, if they know you a bit(which they will if you're r200ish) they will go make a counterbuild(deticated split for example), and most of the halls at AT are split maps. - Unexist  07:57, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * It sucks at splitting. This isn't something you'd run as your regular build, its nowhere near flexible enough. It's more something you swap to on 8v8 maps to counter blockway guilds. --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]Tab  Moo  10:09, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * How come you can run spike builds @ AT, when everything is split map except for burning(which isn't that common in tournaments). Go explain that to me. - [[Image:Unexist sig.jpg|20px]]Unexist  13:18, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * There's this magical thing known as switching builds for different maps. Nomads and Burning are both very good maps for this build. As I keep saying, this build is not something to run in every single match and farm the ladder with. It is however a very effective blockway counter in tournament play. --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]Tab  Moo  13:30, 22 January 2008 (EST)

Kill b-song for something more useful. Swiftslash \\  (contributions  * sandbox ) 10:30, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * No sac is good, there's nothing else particularly useful for a smite bitch to run. --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]Tab  Moo  10:31, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * Castig :O Smite hex would work, RoD for ench spam on dervs. Iono. Opponents will kill spirit faster than you can say "Swiftslash iz nab". Swiftslash \\  [[Image:Impale.jpg|19px]] (<font color="Black">contributions  * sandbox ) 10:33, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * Bloodsong is best for the slot. period. the thing needs to be recast like literally once a year, outputs highly repectful unreducable damage, and heals itself. No sac is just the bow on the package.[[Image:Dark0805sig2.PNG]] 12:16, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * lol. Swiftslash \\  [[Image:Impale.jpg|19px]] (<font color="Black">contributions  * sandbox ) 12:52, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * While Dark exaggerated it's usefulness, it's the most useful of a fairly mediocre set of options for the last slot. If you feel it's useless, you can always take Life instead. --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]<font color="Black">Tab  <font color="Black">Moo  13:09, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * Not saying it's bad, it's just meh. Life at 3 resto is leet tho. Swiftslash \\  [[Image:Impale.jpg|19px]] (<font color="Black">contributions  * sandbox ) 13:34, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * Try reading the variants. --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]<font color="Black">Tab  <font color="Black">Moo  13:35, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * Meh added after, no fair :( Swiftslash \\  [[Image:Impale.jpg|19px]] (<font color="Black">contributions  * sandbox ) 13:52, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * It was in before, but after I checked it was badly worded. I'll let you off this time:p --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]<font color="Black">Tab  <font color="Black">Moo  13:53, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * Aww hugz4u. Swiftslash \\  [[Image:Impale.jpg|19px]] (<font color="Black">contributions  * sandbox ) 13:54, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * Hugz4me 2?[[Image:Dark0805sig2.PNG]] 13:58, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * Hugz4u. HUG REVOKED --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]<font color="Black">Tab  <font color="Black">Moo  14:00, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * Oh woot! GROOP HUG 4 ALLZ.[[Image:Dark0805sig2.PNG]] 14:03, 22 January 2008 (EST)

Is gudness ISnowBunnyI 14:03, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * <3333333333333333333--[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]<font color="Black">Tab  <font color="Black">Moo  14:04, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * Back to topic plz. HUGZ! Swiftslash \\  [[Image:Impale.jpg|19px]] (<font color="Black">contributions  * sandbox ) 14:15, 22 January 2008 (EST)

Isn't AoG better to use now?--Relyk 22:10, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Request for Dark's hug to be revoked
Support Oppose
 * 1) &mdash;  Skadiddly [슴Mc슴] Diddles  14:30, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * 2)  Swiftslash \\  [[Image:Impale.jpg|19px]] (<font color="Black">contributions  * sandbox ) 14:46, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * 3) I'm a cold, heartless bastard Pluto 17:15, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * 4) THIS IS HOW MUCH SKA HAS DESTROYED MY SELF ESTEEM[[Image:Dark0805sig2.PNG]] 17:56, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * 5) He's too ugly to give hugs. - [[Image:Unexist sig.jpg|20px]]<font color="Black">Unexist  10:29, 23 January 2008 (EST)
 * 1) Just to be different :) Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk - Contributions 13:55, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

Neutral
 * 1) tbh. --[[Image:Mafaraxas_sig.jpg|click moar]] <font color="black" face="calibri">Mafaraxas 19:10, 22 January 2008 (EST)

Update
this build imo. New dervspike uses AoB dervishes with an EC mesmer. The enchantment removal and damage is imba, and the build as a whole is more effective than this one. Smooths 18:40, 29 February 2008 (EST)
 * Can we get a skillbar(s)?? — ( ɔ \ ʇ ) uɐɥʇıǝɹ [[Image:Reithan_Sig.jpg|19px]] 20:21, 3 March 2008 (EST)
 * It's an entirely different build. It warrants creating a new page. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 20:25, 3 March 2008 (EST)
 * Do it. :P — ( ɔ \ ʇ ) uɐɥʇıǝɹ [[Image:Reithan_Sig.jpg|19px]] 21:07, 3 March 2008 (EST)
 * There are a bunch of other variations in that section as well. --Mala[[Image:Mala_sig_Mind_Blast.jpg|19px]] 07:26, 4 March 2008 (EST)
 * Linking Offsite =/= Putting up the build. But thanks, anyhow. — ( ɔ \ ʇ ) uɐɥʇıǝɹ [[Image:Reithan_Sig.jpg|19px]] 12:54, 4 March 2008 (EST)
 * I'm pretty sure he posted that link so someone with the initiative could post it easily (and with all the correct bars) --[[Image:Mafaraxas_sig.jpg|click moar]] <font color="black" face="calibri">Mafaraxas 14:16, 4 March 2008 (EST)
 * Initiative? Nonsense, doesn't exist. I've never seen it, anyway. — ( ɔ \ ʇ ) uɐɥʇıǝɹ [[Image:Reithan_Sig.jpg|19px]] 19:26, 4 March 2008 (EST)

Archive
This should be archived, since ancestors nerf hit this in the balls. Also, [LaG]'s build is alot better spike on burning. —ǘŋ Ɛxɩsƫ  07:52, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
 * lulz no, doesn't need to be archived because of Ancestor's Rage nerf. The AR on the primary rit is still over 100 damage.  Change the B-Surge to a the normal B-Surge and everything is fine.  The only thing that actually needs a major rework is the Mesmer.  Gaze Of Balthazar 23:53, 23 March 2008 (EDT)

Well, now it should be archived, bye bye shadow step spiking Marxon Aurion 04:52, 11 July 2008 (EDT)