Build talk:Team - 3 Hero A Time for Heroes Run

What about Mesmers, Necromancers, Elementalists, and Monks??? Troah 00:26, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * monks should not run this tbh...when 55'ing ATFH is much better on a monk.97.112.112.150 00:33, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * havent added eles or necros, didnt spend the time. and note at bottom--Relyk 06:23, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Tested on my rt in nm it works... changed Asura scan for YmLaD and disrupting dagger for ancestor's rage. will test in hm as soon as possiable. I surprised half of the ppl i ran with my heros build (don't have nf on account so only 1 monk hero). Any ways excellent build ;P-- Elf-eElf.jpg 23:41, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ranger Build works with non 105hp variant of the Bonder builds very well. Might want to post those builds as the builds you have don't work well with more than 105hp I've found. Nevertheless, very good builds, another thing i can do on my Ranger.--Zedone2 00:49, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Vote this 5. Works on all professions, tested on all except ele and it will obviously work there. Also d-dagger works fine for all of them... YMLAD is not needed but can be put on anything except warrior/paragon/ranger because of some energy problems.

So whats the regen? just mending and watchful spirit wont counter the burning82.73.139.17 20:14, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * You also have Succor and Feel no Pain/Mystic Regeneration/Blood Renewal/Frigid Armor to handle it. There's also the delver title, which gives HP per skill use. Toraen TheJanitor [[image:ToraenSig2.png]] 16:04, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * someone mentioned you dont need regen except succor/mending/watchful spirit with near max delver--Relyk 07:13, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

I had some problems with my nec and changed the build to this 'Any/A'-variant with much better success [OAcS05PTHQ0kuMvldPHMNM2kA] gee 20:08, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Another 'N/A'-variant [OAdj0xE6HSdPHMNMvl2ktB0kHQA] IMHO its easier to maintain than the version on the page, esp. 'Blood Renewal' with 7sec and 15% sacrifice is annoying. gee 10:42, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * if there are no objections I would change the N/A variant and add the Any/A next time 178.24.133.177 21:15, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

New Ranger version
Hey I just created a new R/D version of this, using the below skillbar (of course Punishing Shot could replace Savage Shot but I didn't have that skill unlocked) and I was wondering if it would warrant it's own page, or just go down here under variants, or choose to be ignored, but it managed HM with the heroes so I think it deserves a mention somewhere. Here comes da BOOM! 06:26, April 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * except its slow compared to using daggers--
 * Except its faster than a 55 monk, at less than 3 minutes, and I'm pretty sure 55 is faster than this build. Here comes da BOOM!

E/Mo Bonder
How about just two E/Mo bonders with Ether Renewal? Or maybe add it to the optional? (Sig not working on this page. Looks like coding error somewhere, don't have time to fix it atm)--UnwokenSpirit
 * you can if u want, it just means more microing--

Elementalist build is retarded

 * ward of stability is retarded
 * IAU lasts the same, has no casting time, and costs half as much energy.
 * doh Da Sonic 02:53, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * and can't be maintained as well as taking up a pve slot. doh.-- Relyk  talk  04:05, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

One Bonder
Should be bringing incoming, enduring harmony, and make haste. Incoming to get the heroes up there faster, make haste to get you to the GD faster, and enduring harmony to make IAU and make haste last longer. You can drop maybe 10 seconds off your run and get IAU to last the whole time. Ressmonkey 16:18, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

Why does each hero have Protective Bond?
Why does each hero have Protective Bond? Are they supposed to cast it on each other as well as one hero casting it on you? The Texas Hammer 01:20, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Read the notes section. Toraen TheJanitor [[image:ToraenSig2.png]] 01:23, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I thought since you only see one icon on the player, then the other heros' PB got dismissed. The Texas Hammer 01:35, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Asuran Scan nerfed, so now what?
With the nerf of Asuran Scan (at least for the purposes of these builds), what do you suggest we use to increase damage output? So far I've been using Alkar's Alchemical Acid for Cracked Armor, but what else could we use that is better? :/ 70.171.27.95 19:36, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
 * EBSoH probably. Cracked armor doesn't do much for dagger hits. Better to go with extra bonus damage. -- Toraen TheJanitor [[image:ToraenSig2.png|link=User:Toraen]] 20:39, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I use I am the Strongest to avoid deeds interrupts, but ebsoh probably has better overall damage output. With IatS!, the run is only about 6-8 seconds shorter than with asuran scan.  I dont know about ebsoh's speed.  Anyways, its still completely viable, even if the hero bars make me cringe every time I see them. Ressmonkey 02:09, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I cringe because you only need two heroes to do it-- Relyk  talk  04:03, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Or you could just wade in with aoe heals + interrupter henchman, use pain inverter, lol as destroyer blows itself up. -- Chieftain   Alex  17:28, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * That is a very old debate. The consensus, no.  Why?  Probably because u cant run ppl. Ressmonkey 19:00, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Competitive for time though. Takes about a minute and a half h.h way. -- [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px]] Chieftain  Alex  19:01, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah but you cant run people.-- GWPirate 关 19:21, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I ran someone with 3 roj with divine/heaven's and pi on my warrior (which i noted awhile ago on speedbooker), it's not as fast or reliable as the any/A for obvious reasons. So please shut up gwpirate-- Relyk  talk  22:12, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

I changed Ascan out, but this could probably do with a rewrite to what the Build:A/any Speedbooker uses. -- Toraen TheJanitor 07:17, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

meta?
Shouldn't this be meta? The majority of atfh runners use this build...and on atfh ZM day it's almost all you see all day long. -- Moto   Saxon  21:49, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Meh


I'm disappointed that daggers are slow D: Cɥıǝɟʇɐıu Alǝx  17:42, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

I find it funny how theres a build to run the easiest mission ever which a PvEnoob like me finished with an horrible team composed by: Me(Ranger), PI mesmer, Two Discrods, Two monks(UA,HB), Something I dont remember and last but not the least, A SoS RITUALIST WITH ALL THE BURNING AROUND. Silent  17:48, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Disrupting Dagger
What is the point of running this over "YMLaD!" on some professions? Illoyon 10:19, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Its cheap especially for 20 base energy professios where ymlad is tight. -- Cɥıǝɟʇɐıu Alǝx 10:26, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Ymlad gives more time to get PI off though QQ [[Image:They.jpg|36px|link=User:They]] 10:34, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, this is for running the mission. It should be noted you can kill the boss in hard mode in like 20 seconds with proper PI and a spirit spammer. [[Image:They.jpg|36px|link=User:They]] 10:35, 13 May 2012 (UTC)