Archive talk:N/A Dancing Death

Interesting sample for energy managment, you'll be gaining alot if target foe dies. Tho it's less dmg, the energy managment is seriously nice. Unexist 16:04, 15 June 2007 (EDT)

I think this is very good build, because in 1hr i do 4 glad points. You have big dmg and mana.
 * Let me just point out... you can get Glad Points with ANYTHING. I believed Readem proved that at one point with images, and, I myself have earned 2 Glad Points running an Echo Mending build.  Honestly, anything words in RA.  [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  16:33, 15 June 2007 (EDT)

Why not an insightful poisonous or cruel sword/axe/spear of fortitude? Swiftslash \\  23:07, 15 June 2007 (EDT)

We need to consider merging all these dancing dagger builds once the vetting system is activated. Shireen sysop  00:58, 16 June 2007 (EDT)
 * /Agree Swiftslash \\  [[Image:Impale.jpg|19px]] 02:32, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

Aside from all that, this is commonly run is RA/TA. Ran into 3 N/A's and an Mo/W in TA. Crazy spike, but very gimmicky. Monks have a hard time because these solo spike 3 people at once. --NYC Elite 11:33, 18 June 2007 (EDT)
 * Gimmicky how? The condition requirement for SoTS makes it analogous to a SA-G-FT war.
 * As for merging the builds, I think we should do that based on the Elite Skill, as they lead to some different strategies. This has more degen and energy, AP builds have fast recharges and more energy, and I use Toxic Chill as it's both cheaper and more spammable than other Poison skills. Egon 21:34, 21 June 2007 (EDT)
 * From my experience, Reaper's Mark has more energy than Assassin's Promise. SR + RM and you're getting back at least 30 energy, not counting SoLS. --NYC Elite 04:54, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

Take Iron Palm instead of Signet of Lost Souls for more pressure and damage output. Silverfury 19:00, 8 September 2007 (CEST)

This is basically a not-as-good SoJ sin. Pretty much it has less armor and gets a little more energy. --Entoros 23:27, 12 October 2007 (CEST)

Equipment Template
I added one for the listed equipment. I don't usually see equipment templates on build pages but I wish I did... It would make trying out new builds much quicker.Devi 19:56, 18 July 2007 (CEST)

Vote
Original sin caster had been around since january, this was submitted in june, thus low innovation.Bob fregman 16:22, 26 August 2007 (CEST)

We can dance if we want to
We can leave your friends behind But if your friends don't dance And if they don't dance Well then they're no friends of mine. —ǥrɩɳsɧ ƿoɲ  03:52, 17 September 2007 (CEST)
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Slight Variant
With the DP nerf the energy cost of the build is lower. Thus Icy Veins could replace RM for more damage, but less energy. Swiftslash \\  (contributions  * sandbox ) 13:50, 20 October 2007 (CEST)
 * Icy viens is a better choice because of more dmg but if u have trouble with energy managment then use reapers mark but if u use either one it is still a very good build. Personally I would use reaper's mark though D66Rago 23:20, 24 November 2007 (CET)
 * Both of you make excellent points on the choice of elites. However, I think that Icy Veins would be a better choice for spiking damage and you could just use Signet of Lots Souls as a good enough energy buff.  That's just my decision though. Lyssan55 23:25, 24 November 2007 (CET)

Deadly Paradox nerf
Now fifteen energy. Still viable? --71.229.204.25 03:08, 30 November 2007 (CET)
 * I don't think so, this had a low energy pool that was filled by death, but it probably doesn't deal enough dmg anymore... [[Image:Image-Dark_Morphon's_Siggie.jpg‎]]Dark Morphon  (contribs)  13:06, 1 December 2007 (CET)

The nerf doesn't do much to this build, the dmg output is still fine, when the enemy dies you still get a huge income of energy, so I really don't see what the problem is Araziel 15:54, 1 December 2007 (CET)

Got to agree, especially in AB where there's alot of deaths around the player. Soul reaping, Reapers Mark, and Signet of Lost Souls are plenty energy management for this build. Unreal Havoc  17:14, 2 December 2007 (CET)
 * I'm thinking this should really be an AB-only build. If nobody disagrees in the next couple days I'm going to remove the RA tag. Zuranthium 03:25, 11 February 2008 (EST)

The nerfs
Energy is easy enough to maintatian, and dealy paradox should recharge augury fast enough?--Relyk 11:28, 20 March 2008 (EDT)

put a CM tag?
the build was great for CM on the luxon side. killed gunther w/ ease and could cap the amber mines solo. put a CM tag on it?.--IM BLUE! Da Ba Dee Da Ba Die

outdated
this needs to be updated. Deathly paradox is now 15e and reapers is pretty crappy. i'd suggest this:

used it in RA and owned lol IV good vs lots of melee cause they bunched up and iron palm is a good KD to stop res  That  Twin   Tom  15:42, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
 * No Deadly Paradox, which is practically the pinacle of Assacasters. IV is pretty bad outside of HA and maybe AB, and even in HA, it's only for old IV spike gimmick. --[[Image:GoD_Hammer_and_Sickle.jpg|19px]]  Guild  of   Deals   15:47, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
 * with Iron Palm and IV you dont need Deadly Paradox cause u can kill em in one cast IV and by then ur spike has recharged [[Image:That Twin Tom sig.jpg|19px]] That  Twin   Tom  16:03, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
 * If your spike has recharged by then then youre spiking too slow. -- Jebus  contests  18:43, 24 November 2008 (EST)

So, why is this outdated then? Reaper's is not great, but with this you have more than enough energy to keep DP up. 82.26.175.134 13:39, May 26, 2010 (UTC)