Archive talk:P/D Scythe Paragon

cost too much energy for a Panragon, even with leadership...

Nah, it's enough I would think... the 25 energy is only payed once... then anthem of flame keeps it up. Go for the Eyes should give 8 energy every time you use it, as well as Anthem of Flame. frvwfr2  (talk···contributions) 10:43, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

Command at 9?
Command is unnecessarily too high, I think. You could lower command by quite a bit since it's only used by GFTE, then pump leadership higher for more energy returns. Only reason for high command is using a shield, but this build uses scythe.
 * More crits (via GftE) is better than more energy (this build doesn't need it). BTW, what's with "Only reason ..." when you yourself identified another reason in the previous sentence? --68.112.142.241 12:22, 24 October 2007 (CEST)

Needs 5 votes
All builds require 5 votes before they are moved to any category. Since this build originated at guildwiki, it went to default to the "Good" builds section. I am going to place it back there --Sirron Eblibs 09:13, 25 July 2007 (CEST)

Working Build
Utilized this build more or less every meaningful location in both Nightfall and Prophecies, and honestly it is one of the most fun and easy to maintain builds out there. If you troubles with lag or a slow processor, like I do, you will find this build still effective. Currently, I surround this Hybrid Spiker with the Motivation henchmen for more reliable recursion for Aggressive Refrain, and it has paid dividends thus far.

One of the above comments made reference to the possibility that this build may have energy problems, and that just is not true. With a meager 30 energy (the base amount), I can keep all of my chants up without a problem, and that is with absolutely no energy support such as Blood Ritual around me. Aggressive Refrain is the only substantially expensive skill, and it's generally only used once per map; just make sure to throw on Anthem of Flame or some other short lived chant or shout about halfway through the Refrain's duration, insuring that it need not be put up again.

Not perfect by any stretch, this build is still fairly unique and enjoyable to play, not to mention fairly inexpensive for those frugal players among us. It is flexible enough to take out casters and warriors alike. In the current PvE environment, anti-chant seems to be its only meaningful weakness, but arming your heroes with the correct counter will make sure your up and running in no time. Best of luck to all of you attempting this build; I hope it works as effectively for you as it has for me.Madriel222 15:40, 5 September 2007 (CEST)

Archival
Sorry, but this was an early NF fad. I think now it should be archived, as it isn't really that good anymore. -- Guild of  Deals  08:47, 9 February 2008 (EST)

Different version.
This one hasn't got perma cracked armor and uses Soldier´s Fury lolwut it´s bad, but whatever. [build prof=p/d lead=10+1+1 comma=8+1 scy=12][pious assault][eremite's attack][victorious sweep]["go for the eyes!"]["lead the way!"][anthem of flame][soldier's fury][optional][/build] So, yeah. It sucks, but it's better than the current build.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ  08:17, 23 March 2008 (EDT)
 * You can use Purifying Finale to negate the Cracked Armour. Or, you can just use Drunken Master as a non-elite Onslaught (or just use Onslaught, though you lose "TPIY!"). I'm pretty sure this or something like it is still very viable. Widow maker 17:56, February 13, 2010 (UTC)