Archive talk:Me/A Neutral IW

Daggers with 3 DM? The double strike chance is so low you'd be better of recommending a sword/axe and offhand for the energy/armor. Egon 19:09, 7 June 2007 (CEST)
 * I've had no problems with energy and armor is high enough with feigned neutrality up constantly. The slightly higher DPS from the daggers is more useful than more energy or armor. Scythes are betters still, situationally. -Jwideman 03:20, 10 June 2007 (CEST)

Out of date isn't this? Can't use deadly paradox with dark escape. 67.71.49.34 00:01, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Viability in Question
Reasons: Readem (talk *pvxcontribs ) 16:03, 14 June 2007 (EDT)
 * Nerf to Deadly Paradox
 * Not enough energy anymore, unfortunately. Without Dark Escape, it's plausible, but it's still sore in the department. WTB Archive. T_T [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] cedave (contributions_buildpage)  17:25, 2 December 2007 (CET)

Survivable, perhaps move this to PVE only, as it does stack enchantments on it'self. But in the PVP arena it is definately lack luster. No reliable IAS, so it's pressure is sorely lacking. Good self survivability though. Shireen sysop  16:34, 15 June 2007 (EDT)

Testing
Should we move this build to Testing again? I'd say the +25 cap on armor stacking has impacted this build quite a bit. I can't test it, don't have IW, but if someone else could do it? Dr ag nm n  talk  14:35, 9 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Grrr. People. The armor cap is 25 for more than one skill, but it can be exceeded by a single skill. Like the maximum speedboost is 33%, but Dash can go to 50%. Shido 14:40, 9 August 2007 (CEST)

More dagger mastery
I found this build more effective with 9 dagger mastery. Using IW without an IAS or a lot of double strikes makes it lose its purpose. Feigned Neutrality will go down to 8 seconds, but if you have an "of Enchanting" it can last 9-10 seconds. i suggest you make it Illusion=12 Shadow=9 Dagger=9 --Guild of Deals 19:56, 22 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Illusion 16, Dagger 0: damage per 'hit' = 42
 * Illusion 12, Dagger 9: average damage per hit = 34 + 0.18 * 34 = 40.12
 * 81.164.190.251 18:08, 29 December 2007 (EST)


 * No, make Illusion 16, Dagger Mastery 9, and Shadow Arts 9. --[[image:GoD Sig3.jpg|20px]] Guild of  Deals  12:27, 6 January 2008 (EST)

If it doesn't use Dagger Mastery, use a Sword and a Focus. Rickyvantof 09:05, 8 January 2008 (EST)

You know what would be so broken
too bad it doesn't work Q_Q + ℓγ ss άή [rage]  00:52, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh christ that would be imba...-- Ikimono "My beard is thick." [[Image:Monk-Paragon-icon.png|24px]] 03:10, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * except you would run out of energy incredibly fast, using 10 energy a second. Drahgal Meir 03:13, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * But it's 160 dps D:. You don't need energy for long :p Life   Guardian  03:16, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * so you kill one thing then run around useless until you die? Drahgal Meir 03:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * it has 6 optional slots. + ℓγ ss άή <font color="#007766">[rage]  03:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't have GW reinstalled on my comp, but I remember someone from GW Guru a long time ago that made a similar idea. Basically (and I'm not sure if it actually works with IW), you can use the dual until about 15 secs after using the prerequisite. So theoretically you could use a lead, then IW, then spam EA to hell for 15 seconds. Has anyone tried this? If so, you'd have a retardedly high amount of DPS that would likely wipe a team within the 15 seconds you have to spam EA. However, I would be pretty surprised that this would work if no one has actually done it yet. -- Jai Goes <font color="Purple">Monksassin Monksassin-icon.png 03:27, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll test it when i get home in an hour. Could be an interesting bug/exploit.-- Ikimono "My beard is thick." [[Image:Monk-Paragon-icon.png|24px]] 03:37, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Expect a next-day nerf if it somehow happens to work. -- Jai Goes <font color="Purple">Monksassin Monksassin-icon.png 03:56, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Doesn't work, just tested. Life   Guardian  04:10, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm just gonna ignore that for a minute and stay in my dream state filled with 160 DPS and 5 optional slots... -- Jai Goes <font color="Purple">Monksassin Monksassin-icon.png 04:12, 26 August 2009 (UTC)