Archive talk:Team - 1 Hero EA/SF Mimicry

This actually looks nice. Let me know when you're done ironing it out and it gets moved to testing.  RąʂKɭɘş ♣  14/f/japan  10:06, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Done and moved to testing. --Aria Frost  [[Image:Energy_Surge.jpg|19px]] 10:19, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

I've also tried SF heroes with mimicry but they sadly use it to get another SF instead of getting EA... --Aria Frost   10:27, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Using rodgort's invocation is lame; searing flames has higher dps, especially when you can hit the 19 breakpoint with ele lord or GoEP. use mark of rodgort-- Relyk 10:35, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree. mark of rodgort would be recommended. make rodgort's invocation an optional, i also would add meteor or liquid flame as an optional. and take out flame burst. --Qwer 10:39, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry but I don't get why mark of rodgort should be useful... foes would start burning in any case with the first SF or with Rodgort's Invocation (either by the SF player or by the EA hero)... Flame Burst is very useful when you want to quickly strike a melee group hitting you meanwhile you are focused on spamming the farthest foes with SF (during its short recharge time). --Aria Frost  [[Image:Energy_Surge.jpg|19px]] 11:32, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Because then you don't rely on the first SF cast to cause burning, and the targets will almost always meet the prequisit of burning for SF to trigger. (Meaning the player doesn't waste casts of SF to start the burning.) PewPew   QQ   13:00, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * RI only gives 4 seconds at 19, which inevitably means SF will be used for burning anyways. MoR is useful not only because of perma-burning, but you can set off burning with liquid flame, meteor, fireball, or wanding before SF. This avoids initiating Burning with Searing Flames such as on melee that are separate from casters. The only use for RI is spiking, otherwise go for training stuff with searing flames using mark of rodgort. Your hero will help trigger MoR as well.-- Relyk 19:36, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Why not run arcane mimicry on the hero so they copy your own SF? Wumpa 07:39, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
 * It could be an option but I'm suspicious that the hero would mimicry it even out of combat (thus wasting it), btw I'll try that to see if it works fine. --Aria Frost  [[Image:Energy_Surge.jpg|19px]] 09:19, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
 * You could just micro it yourself, probably not the worst thing in the world to micro Wumpa 23:12, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Why the superior rune? 15+2+2+1 = 20. :/ AegisDok 04:12, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Because Elemental Lord is a secondary optional (since AoR is more useful as a cover enchantment), also: EA may not be always up (mimicry recharging or rupted). --Aria Frost  [[Image:Energy_Surge.jpg|19px]] 09:19, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
 * how about switch player/hero roles, mimic their SF, take Air of Superiority, and micro their mimic of your EA? if there's going to be double mimic, AoS would help more with SF than EA. Fianchetto 17:10, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, if you run EA, then you can also run Arcane Echo, which you can then use to duplicate SF when it's mimicked or RI/something else when it's not. Wumpa 23:12, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Those are both stupid ideas-- Relyk 23:14, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Can I ask where you got this idea? MrWaffles 17:06, 20 August 2012 (UTC)MrWaffles

About player/hero switching
It could be eventually added as a variant, but I think it may only be effective against the largest mobs, because Air of Superiority (on average) gives the recharge benefit only once every 10 enemies killed. --Aria Frost   13:45, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * and besides SF, Meteor is also better on a player with AoS. Fianchetto 17:46, 1 February 2012 (UTC)