Archive talk:R/E Wailing Forest Farmer

yew liek?-- AESTHE  T  I  C 
 * Looks like it should work, but the concepts are almost exactly the same of that of the other farming build. --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]] Ressmonkey (talk)  22:37, 14 January 2008 (EST)

The quest reward bow from the Blankets for the Settlers isn't even a max bow. You should change that lol. Natsopaani 00:48, 15 January 2008 (EST)
 * its only 2 away from max and it has -2 in stance so its good for taking spirit woods out.-- AESTHE  T  I  C 

ok, i get the non-max bow, but why does this have "unsurpassed" forest farming ability, is it the speed it does it or what? I will test this tonight when I have free time. Looks good. 76.106.2.248 06:41, 15 January 2008 (EST)---oops, my bad 06:43, 15 January 2008 (EST)

Would Savage shot instead of Disrupting shot work too? Then you would have a NF only build + you can interrupt faster. Karasu (talk) 06:47, 15 January 2008 (EST)


 * Sacrafici- it just farms faster then any other Forest Farmer,and Karasu-Savage would work fine, just less damage.-- AESTHE  T  I  C 

I used to run::

without any problems. dshot is wonderful to take out the spiders' poison. Just fire once and hit dshot right after when you aggro them, you'll interrupt their healing spring with the normal shot and dshot apply. I even ran it with a zealous longbow of fort, doesn't really matter much (3 spiders fails though, 2 tops) – Ichigo 724  16:16, 15 January 2008 (EST)

Is this significantly better than the one above? I mean unless it is substantially better I would think that it wouldn't matter which one you take would it?--Cursed Condemner 19:58, 15 January 2008 (EST)

I got an idea, merge and make something actually original... ---  Ressmonkey (talk)  20:13, 15 January 2008 (EST)

Why not take poison tip signet instead of apply poison? That way you can take kindle arrows for more damage. Cabaex 09:24, 16 January 2008 (EST)


 * Spirit Shepherd – Ichigo 724 [[Image:Ichigo-signature.jpg]] 09:27, 16 January 2008 (EST)
 * I like this alot more becuz 1) you gain more energy 2) you gain energy no matter which foe your fighting and 3)This makez you immune to basically everything when they use iron mist since your only taking earth damage WOOH! Abadabadoo 07:32, 19 January 2008 (EST)
 * Only, you know, you gain plenty of energy (topped out), using the one I posted above, aren't screwed when you have to kite and can easily take 6 shepherds as well without having to heal (so iron mist invincibility is pretty meh). – Ichigo 724 [[Image:Ichigo-signature.jpg]] 09:23, 19 January 2008 (EST)
 * your not screwed when you have to kite with this one either... and how can you take on 6 spirit shepardz, if that one could then this one should no problem becuz this actually has more damage reduction from lightning damage then the mantra unless you have high inspiration becuz armor buff addz up to about 50% damage reduction Abadabadoo 10:53, 19 January 2008 (EST)
 * I don't recall claiming this one couldn't take 6. And you are screwed when you have to kite, +25%(stormchaser)-28%(armorofearth)=-3%, kiting isn't exactly going to work properly. – Ichigo 724 [[Image:Ichigo-signature.jpg]] 12:09, 19 January 2008 (EST)
 * Yes but you do notice when you attempt to kite they use iron mist on both yourz and the current one so basically when you kite you get iron mists on you and your invincible so you can kill them Abadabadoo 13:29, 19 January 2008 (EST)
 * and btw with yourz you do have to heal when taking on 6 shepardz... Abadabadoo 13:31, 19 January 2008 (EST)
 * No you don't. Wanding doesn't exactly do much. And I meant kiting from spiders and the likes as well. I never get iron misted. – Ichigo 724 [[Image:Ichigo-signature.jpg]] 13:38, 19 January 2008 (EST)
 * Since when do shepardz just want? they do have spellz you know Abadabadoo 15:24, 19 January 2008 (EST)
 * Since rangers have been solo farming them with a long/flatbow from outside casting range. So they've been wanding rangers repeatedly for over 2 years. – Ichigo 724 [[Image:Ichigo-signature.jpg]] 15:43, 19 January 2008 (EST)
 * You win i lose =( lol gg but this build still is quite effective Abadabadoo 17:29, 19 January 2008 (EST)

Theres no need for that bow because of Stone Striker converts the damage to elemental and the reduction is only to physical damage. + the stats of the bow are just like a horn bow and horn bows have a really long re-firing time and its not max damage. Huynh 20:17, 29 January 2008 (EST)

I also see no need for the minor rune in expertise, for it doesn't reduce any of the skills energy cost nor does it increase the effect of skills because non of them are form the expertise skill line.Huynh 21:00, 29 January 2008 (EST)
 * 7 is a breakpoint for 10 nrg skills. and a blankets bow is good so you can unguent alot less, and more time killing,in the end its a little faster.-- AESTHE  T  I  C 
 * Whoops i was only looking at break points for 5 nrg skills -_-, but still i dont see how the bow helps reduce troll ungent usage? Does the "Reduces physical damage by 2 (while in a stance)" really help because you have stone striker up and doesn't the damage become elemental? Huynh 16:43, 30 January 2008 (EST)
 * O i never noticed it only reduced physical damage:O-- AESTHE  T  I  C 

Added Storm's Embrace as an optional skill as i find its useful when running as it refreshes from elemental damage, which if stone striker is up then this is all damage.

I added Stoneflesh Aura it reduces the damage to 0 so u don't need to heal so fast.

offtopic lawl
sorry just had to lawl at 1 part of this build - 'Counters: Lag' !!!!! something gw is getting pretty renown for sad to say & it doesnt matter what time of day it is or if your in your home districts you still lag like a muvaf**ker. possibly one of the main reasons thats currently putting me off playing gw entirely because theres bad lag then theres completely retarded lag. ahh fond memoeries of glitching into NPC's & enemys & the 5sec cast time for dash as well as other really fast casting skills. think LAG should be added to every builds counters because gw is predominantly getting good at it. also its nothing to do with my connection. i run 8mb ADSL

62.56.60.31 14:20, 16 January 2008 (EST)
 * Lag is the almighty nerfbat that pwns all farming builds. They dont need izzy to do anything anymore. --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]]  Ressmonkey (talk)  07:26, 17 January 2008 (EST)
 * lol. The only time GW lagges in when you're running, and you get stuck while your pc shows you're still running on. The only other lag I experience sometime is when my connection fails. - Star Seeker  |  My talk  10:18, 17 January 2008 (EST)
 * God, I hate that running lag the most. I have died countless times from it. Huynh 00:36, 18 January 2008 (EST)
 * Counters: lag is funny indeed :P --[[Image:Styxx_HL.jpg|19px]] Frans  11:21, 17 January 2008 (EST)
 * i never rly lag, but i rubberband when pulling sometimes,idk if that counts.-- AESTHE  T  I  C 

Vote.

 * can somone plox.-- AESTHE  T  I  C 

looks pretty good
 * Sorry, but imo totally inferior to classic R/Me.....You can use Forked Arrow and that'll do just about enough dmg equivalent to that Burning Arrow. Also you say it's alright to not have a fiery bowstring....I think it's pretty important,cuz you're farming a buncha forest dwellers that are like....trees. Also, Iron Mist doesn't immune u from ALL attcks.....The friggin stalkers that use em will own you with their lightning damage.
 * Burning and + dmg > two arrows. Fiery bowstring + Stone Striker = Earth damage, bowstring is redundant. Iron Mist + Stone Stiker = all damage taken is earth damage, all non lightning damage is negated = invincible. - [[Image:GenericWikier1.jpg|19px]] Generic Wiki-er  01:17, 21 March 2008 (EDT)

Added Storm's Embrace as an optional skill as i find its useful when running as it refreshes from elemental damage which if stone striker is up then this means all damage.

Iron Mist
91.152, the note that you put on the build is incorrect. You do not take damage from lightning damage while under Iron Mist, because Stone Striker converts this damage to earth type first, therefore making it negated by Iron Mist. I've done this farm, that's the way it is. - Generic Wiki-er  15:03, 23 March 2008 (EDT)

Other farming places
Are there other places you can use this build to farm? Agnusmaximus 6:57, 27 July 2008(EDT)

Incendiary Arrows for Burning Arrow?
i'm not very familiar with the run, but i stumbled across the build and thought that making your degen AoE could be schmexy.-- reason '''.  decrystallized '  Shock is a costly interrupt. '' 09:08, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
 * I was thinking of the same thing too. It would make Shepherds a lot faster, but Spiders might become a problem without the extra BA damage. I'll try it and see. - [[Image:GenericWikier1.jpg|19px]] Generic Wiki-er  19:12, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Tried with Incendary, Dshot, Triple Shot, and Ignite (stupid, yes, but meh). Worked well, minus scatter from Ignite. RtW would probably be the better option. - [[Image:GenericWikier1.jpg|19px]] Generic Wiki-er  20:26, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
 * why RtW and not apply poison?-- reason ' . ' decrystallized   Mending pwnz0rs teh DoA.  21:26, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Spideys have melandru's resilience. – Ichigo 724 [[Image:Ichigo-signature.jpg]] 21:50, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
 * orite.-- reason ' . ' decrystallized   Mending pwnz0rs teh DoA.  22:02, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

equipment
– Ichigo 724  08:16, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Fiery bowstring
 * Stone Striker &rarr; Converts elemental and physical damage you take or deal to earth damage.
 * Yeh, I noticed that too the other day, but forgot to edit it -_- - [[Image:GenericWikier1.jpg|19px]] Generic Wiki-er  09:53, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

Can we get some run pictures please
I was wondering if we could get some pictures of the run as you go over to the forest and through out the actual farm please --Noeon Knight Blood 17:00, 23 December 2008 (EST)

looool merge
Just look at the builds. Removing. -- › Srs Beans R Srs  17:03, 23 December 2008 (EST)

Armor of Earth is completely unnecessary. Savage Shot is better than Disrupting Shot. Penetrating Attack and/or Sundering Attack and/or Asuran Scan will dramatically speed up kills.--ClavisRa 19:22, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Might I suggest using a flatbow of pruning (20% vs. plants) since 95% of what you are killing is plants (switch to 15^50 shortbow for the spiders)...oh, and asuran scan is a hex spell which puts you in range of your foes' spells which kind of defeats the purpose of the farm. Personally, I like keen arrow for the added damage, or poison tip signet for a quick non-removable prep. Also, Dwarven Stability to lengthen Storm Chaser helps, too (especially for the run to the forest, which you should also have a +45/stance shield for as well)---Retired gwamm 17:32, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * 20% vs. plant mods are not exactly easy to find...so that would be an unnecessary requirement for many people. Karate [[File:KJ for sig.png]] Jesus  17:37, 9 December 2009
 * Cleaned up a bit because Iron Mist will NOT make you immune to all damage, it will fuck you really hard Tyrael [[Image:Life Sheath.jpg|19px]]  Meow  16:22, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Stone Striker converts everything to earth damage, thus Iron Mist will make you invincible to everything. Toraen TheJanitor [[image:ToraenSig2.png]] 19:02, 22 January 2010 (UTC)