Archive talk:Team - 600/Smite Rragar's Menagerie

As of now the build is working great. I hold no guarantee that it'll work for you if any conflicting updates come. I have stopped playing so this build won't be updated by it's author. Hiphopopotamus
 * This should be in the team section, but looks good otherwise. Glimmer is a bit odd, but you'll have plenty of energy i suppose from essence bond ~  Jujipoo [[Image:Jujinicon.jpg|16px]] talk 03:14, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * so wut happens when a charr shadowblade uses beguiling haze?--Relyk 03:20, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Im gonna go with SB stops it at first and visage makes them lolenergy after that. Air can also remove conditions.  Life [[Image:WikiLOD7.gif]] 03:23, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * the daze is still like ~7-9 seconds and ur gonna get interrupted trying to cast soa/sb :/ unless u precast soa as well and it lasts long enuf--Relyk 03:34, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know for sure, but I'm pretty sure most of them die before SB runs out. And the visage is still lolenergy for them.  Life [[Image:WikiLOD7.gif]] 03:38, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Just don't cast Shield of Absorption when you engage them until the shadowblades die that teamed with visage should take care of them. You can take mantra of resolve if you want but it's not that necessary here. Hiphopopotamus


 * I've rarely seen Mantra of Resolve used, since SB takes care of any would-be daze, and Ancestor's does the rest. ··· Danny   Does   Drugs  22:18, 7 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Though, doesn't the Ranger normally take QZ over something? ··· Danny   Does   Drugs  22:19, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * ah nvm, just use sb, forgot its a spell >.< it wont be a problem since visage is lolenergy :P--Relyk 00:36, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

QZ isn't needed here and if anything it will hinder you especially at the end boss fight. Far better to reap the benefits of a high beast mastery attribute because EoE really does help a lot here. Frozen soil also helps against the charr and the end boss fight. Hiphopopotamus
 * Is it true they will only use BH if you have a staff or wand?--Relyk 02:44, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Not sure. But I haven't had any issues so far. ofc, I use SB so that could be why, too. ··· Danny   Does   Drugs  17:38, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You have to remember the negatives of QZ can help...when fighting the menders and prophets they will run out of energy very easily, i use this trick when fighting Zoldark in Vloxen HM

Why the ranger hero? standard 600/smite works fine, just bring "Finish Him!", or stick "FH!" on Rt/Smite and its even better, easy too. 81.97.84.131 20:57, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

EPIC FAILS?
I have a working build that uses only myself and one monk hero. That's an extra 15k per run. :D and no Im not telling
 * this is faster and guarantees no fails, provided you're not absolutely terrible at this game. Anyone without a mental handicap can run it with just 600/smit, but it takes a few dozen times longer. ··· [[File:Danny-sig.png]] 18:29, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I dont know why people are so hellbent on protecting their builds from getting to the public/pvx wiki. When you run somebody, they are going to camp your skillbar usage and just test it out and put it on wiki..No point in claiming something if you dont show the build.23:56, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * surprisingly the people here 600/smite the dungeons themselves then post the builds here--Relyk 00:19, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * If you actually pay attention in runs, there is really no secret at all. Athrun [[image:Athrun_Sig.gif]]Feya  20:04, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well im going to go see if I can test this build out now.(pr0adam) [[Image:Healers Boon adam.jpg|19px]] 15:25, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * If u keep em from public the dungeon won't get swarmed... It happened to SoO bout a year ago i ran that (10K) and suddenly other people start runnin they wont actually get there so no one wants runs anymore and suddenly u are workless srsly to all PvX nubs... run a dungeon ONLY if u CAN make it to the chest...
 * Was that supposed to be English? Think before you type you illiterate moron--TahiriVeila 19:40, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * actually it is lern2read and if u don't understand ask me and else...shut up
 * please sign your comments with --Relyk 23:11, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually Relyk you only need four tildes. And tbh mister IP, nobody is going to believe that you invented SoO 600/Smite. Also, what the fuck did you mean by "other people start runnin they wont actually get there so no one wants runs anymore and suddenly u are workless srsly to all PvX nubs". Coherent sentences or gtfo. + ℓγ ss άή [rage]  00:42, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The first people to run SoO used Balanced Stance. Fleeting Stability was the next fad. Both only lasted about 2 weeks before IAU got noticed. Just out of curiosity, Mr. Anonymous, how much mental power do you think it takes to go OH SHIT THEY USE SHOCK I BETTER BRING A MOTHER FUCKING ANTI-KD. And how much brain power does it take after that to start experimenting with ways to manage energy? Channeling was used long before anyone brought a Ranger for QZ. No one invents anything in GW. Builds are a conglomeration of ideas that manage to blend together until it reaches an optimized level. Hell, I could claim I created the Vloxen 600/Smite because I went OH SHIT CTT ON A RANGER, but I'm not a faggot and I'm sure someone else thought of it long before I did. ··· [[File:Dannycbf.PNG]] 14:45, 26 August 2009 (UTC)


 * i don't say i invented it and i don't want to pretend like i did but... if every1 tries to run it,fail would u take a run and have a 90% chance on failure? no u won't waste you're time on that... so that is the impact it has to put these builds on PvX... i'm not saying i invented it (duh) and danny just a quick quote : The first people to run SoO used Balanced Stance... mo/r/w ftw? u can't manage you're energy without storm unless you go ele witch is very hard so they always used IAU (as far as i now) some for fleeting plz correct me if i'm wrong
 * Are you 4 years old? Speak coherent English or gtfo. And tbh, just because a lot of people run something, does not mean it will fail 90% of the time. Dungeons are easy a fuck, and anyone who fails at them when they have the proper build is bad and should probably /uninstall. + ℓγ ss άή [rage]  23:25, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * dude i'm not trying to make fun of people unlike other people here ^ but u go on a shards run and u have a chance that it will take over an hour to complete it would u like that when u know u can do in 30-40 mins? no u won't and tell me you're name in game and run raven for me beacuase Dungeons are easy a fuck, and anyone who fails at them when they have the proper build is bad and should probably /uninstall

and my whole point is that people runned SoO, failed and wasted everone's time
 * Learn to find good runners. Also, people managed energy just fine before Storm Chaser went meta - you can finish the run using Mantra of Resolve with no problem if you really feel like it. Also, Raven's Point isn't hard to run by any means. Even Frostmaw isn't too much of a challenge once you've done it once or twice. ··· [[File:Dannycbf.PNG]] 19:32, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * yes but... people HAVE to do it once or twice before they try to take leechers and raven is annoyin cause of the mind shockers
 * if you're complaining about people being bad at the game, try guru - they might actually give half a fuck there, but there's a decent chance you'll just be told to stop being a shitter and go back to WoW, mostly because you're being a massive faggot. ··· [[File:Dannycbf.PNG]] 21:46, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Of course some people are terrible at running dungeons but that really has nothing to do with anything. Saying something like how people run SoO, fail and waste everybodys time, isnt a reason for everybody to not go on a run ever again. People still want a BDS and people will still get runs for SoO. Not EVERY runner is terrible, I do SoO in like 30-40 minutes as long as the leechers arent annoying.(pr0adam) [[Image:Healers Boon adam.jpg|19px]] 21:51, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

and u run for 8k whilst before the noobs came u had a party fast when asking 10 thts the point... but stop this discussion it has no use to discuss stuff to hypocryte people...
 * i have no idea what your saying--Relyk 10:14, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I think he is angry at us because he now makes a grand total of 40k/run instead of 50k/run. And why? Apparently for not keeping a build secret, which is ironic seeing as the moment you use a build infront of others you've basically made it publicly available. Athrun [[image:Athrun_Sig.gif]]Feya  13:49, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * ^ViNcE [[Image:Manly Elite Skill.jpg|19px]] 17:55, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

hypocrite is a hard word to spell. grammar and spelling really does say a lot about a person's intelligence. ··· 22:03, September 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * tell me about it i still cant spell hippocryteDr Rawr 21:53, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * I drew a comic once about someone reading hypocrisy out loud as hippo-crispy. Found it!, hmm apparently I was a fucked up 15 year old. Athrun [[image:Athrun_Sig.gif]]<font color="Grey">Feya  22:00, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * suicidal poet likes words?--Relyk 23:15, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

''hypocrite is a hard word to spell. grammar and spelling really does say a lot about a person's intelligence''

Indeed but tell me where did you're capital letters go?And because u are all so confident that those pages does not cause noobs to run Soo,Rragar and others I just took a run trough SoO the time was :2 hours from portal arbor-SoO untill the chest spawned well before the build was on PvX it took people 30-40 minutes and good people 25-30 minutes. I have a sreenie of the run but that ain't proof so i won't edit it.
 * Tbh, nobody is going to remove any 600/Smite builds from PvX so, take the drama to your mama and gtfo. EDIT: Referring to your comment from ages ago: I will not run Raven's for a whale sperm covered eviscerated pubic hair licking cunt muffin such as yourself. + <font color="#004466">ℓγ <font color="#005566">ss <font color="#006666">άή <font color="#007766">[rage]  21:04, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

U can't so.. ofcourse u won't and I'm saying it's dumb to post builds on PvX when they used to run dugeons so... I know you can't remove the builds from PvX just saying the editor ^ is a dumb shit to post them...
 * As a side note, I love people who try to sound intelligent <3 Then shit all over their attempt in the subsequent reply. Srs dungeon running bsnsnsns. <font color="Maroon">Athrun [[image:Athrun_Sig.gif]]<font color="Grey">Feya  21:09, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

Lmao true fact or no? go ahead and deny it i'm listening.
 * No actually, I can run Raven's, and I did for about a week and a half, until I got bored of it because it was too easy. + <font color="#004466">ℓγ <font color="#005566">ss <font color="#006666">άή <font color="#007766">[rage]  21:19, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

Pvxwiki keeps track of builds, go yell at guru for coming up with them.--Relyk 21:21, September 5, 2009 (UTC) I know what PvX does... but keeping track of builds for dungeons is dumb as there will be way too many runners causing people to wait longer before they can leave to their dungeon so please put on all builds or none because if u only put a few on all PvX'ers will go on them /rant
 * You assume pvxwiki somehow cares about the guildwars economy and players--Relyk 00:09, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * You guys do prove you don't I'm saying u should that's all but please put all builds on...
 * They obviously don't care about economy, why should they? Posting the builds on this wiki is exactly the same as running other people for money, they obviously get to see your build. Btw, go to school and get some grammar-lessons, I'm dutch and even my grammar is better. >_< 62.51.100.134 10:43, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * <3 Eight more builds for a full house. <font color="Maroon">Athrun [[image:Athrun_Sig.gif]]<font color="Grey">Feya  10:55, September 6, 2009 (UTC)

the best part is when he brings up the fact that i cbf'd hitting shift and immediately uses the improper form of "your". does anyone even know what he's arguing about anymore? it sounded like he's angry that there are bad runners, but I'm not even sure now. ··· 18:16, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * He also used does not do in the second sentence. He thinks there's a correlation between dungeon running builds being posted on PvX and retarded dungeon runners. Although we do have a large collection of retards here (<3) I can't see this being true. One run doesn't prove or disprove anything - the sample size is too small for anyone to give two fucks. <font color="Maroon">Athrun [[image:Athrun_Sig.gif]]<font color="Grey">Feya  18:40, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * most people here don't run dungeons, besides you pve-ers. a lot of people here spend most of their time in RA, or at least that's the feeling i get. (generally, every time i go into RA, someone pms me asking if i'm danny from pvx, or to say hi. lol.) ··· [[File:Dannycbf.PNG]] 18:42, September 6, 2009 (UTC)

i'm not english either ^^ and yea i prob should've known theey didn't care
 * most dungeons aren't hard to run after you do it once. most people are too dumb to finish the first run though. along with shitters who yell at you for being retarded after you die from them loding a ghost or pulling a group to your smiter.--Relyk 08:23, September 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * suprisingly i agree relyk and the people that can't finish a first run should not even try it...
 * when someone's advertising "FREE TEST RUN", just don't take it. ;o ···  Danny  Pew   Pew  19:36, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

just another 600/smite, most A/E(or /Me), 600/Smite, or 55 monk builds get vetted great. what has the world come to???--68.227.202.180 23:29, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * We're talking about GW PvE here. This shouldn't be a surprise of any kind. ···  Danny  Pew   Pew  21:49, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * This is part of the Dungeon Build series, see Dungeon Guide for all Dungeon builds. It kind of has to be great--Relyk 23:28, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Update
This build needs a redo since the update on spell breaker