User talk:Fianchetto/Archive 1

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Vorpal  01:10, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Aww just for me? Hilarious, clap clap Fianchetto 01:21, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem. Welcome to PvX btw! :) Vorpal [[Image:Vorpal_Signature_1.jpg|19px]] 01:57, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

PvX:1RV
Be careful not to break this policy. If you disagree with a revert, you should bring up your argument on the talk page instead of re-reverting. You did bring it up, but didn't let anyone involved respond. --  Toraen   talk  20:53, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Not that it's a huge deal, but it's been on talk page before any of the edits. Plenty of time for any of the editors to respond who wanted to, but seriously the math's too straightforward to deserve any. However I'm here to have a good time and not get drawn into blame games, so I'll leave it alone. Just nobody max out Smiting ok thanks Fianchetto 00:12, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

USE THE SHOW PREVIEW BUTTON. You're spamming RecentChanges with a TON of tiny little edits >.>--TahiriVeila 05:38, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh hey, it's watching me. Didn't know about that, sorry. Fianchetto 05:42, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Btw anyone know why some sections aren't auto-TableofContents-ing? ThanksFianchetto 05:44, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * You have to close the PvXbig tag before starting a new section. --  Toraen   talk  06:14, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Image uploads
Please remember to add a licensing tag to them. The file upload page has a drop-down menu for choosing the license, for future reference. --  Toraen   talk  21:22, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Image macros
They're not arguments. All they do is degenerate the discussion even further (and it's been pretty bad so far). Please stop spamming them. --  Toraen   talk  17:17, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * And they are not even funny! Shadow 17:18, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

By popular demand


I stopped dagger test right when adjacent targets died, to maximize average dps gained from splinter aoe. Also SoH+Judge's Insight on both me and pet, even though nobody, or very few, would do that with real mobs. I was surprised that daggers had a higher spike moment, but wasn't surprised that AP had higher dps again. This shows that assassin secondary can be used by almost anyone (except probably war/para because of low energy regen) to achieve some of the best and easiest dps in pve. AP: more dps and caster range, but takes more skill and timing. Daggers: lower dps (including aoe), melee range, and requires aid from other teammates, but easier skill-wise. The choice is yours. Fianchetto 03:20, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Youdo realize that the dmg on the dummies is NOT measured right? And the main flaw in your bar is that it has no energy Falrach 06:44, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Uh, nobody uses JI with daggers. It prevents Curses and Orders from working and AP on base dagger damage is pointless. Also, 4 second DPS measurement isn't a valid estimate of long term damage (why did you revert the images anyway? Just confuses people trying to follow your argument). --  Toraen   talk  07:03, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * (Gah Toraen eced me with same words) Why did you stop at 12 seconds for daggers? That's a very poor indication of dps. And sticking JI, EBSOH, IAMS, and SOH on pet will skew the actually DPS. Did you sit on top of MoW and use EBSOH with the AP spike? Because no one actually does that in-game and heavily skews the actual damage of the spike.-- Relyk 07:05, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It's viable to run in with an AP spiker though becuase lolPvE. --  Toraen   talk  07:09, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * And use EBSOH? I mean sure you could, but you totally miss the point of using AP over daggers lol.-- Relyk 07:32, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Honor just goes wherever most of your party is. So unless you're going physway, AP would allow Honor to be more effective. Alternatively, you could take some decent damage reducing skill and AP in the frontline. We should probably mainbar Honor over YMLaD if we're after pure damage over utility though. Fianchetto 23:26, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Utility as in the KD for knocklock?-- Relyk 00:32, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Someone probably already mentioned it, but SoH isn't only buff that people almost always have with dagger spammer. There's SoH/orders/mop/splinter +aoe effects of various spells(arage/smite spells). The real power of dagger spammer isn't single target damage, though that's pretty ridiculous, but in the power to kill everything around that one target when you kill him. Also, I'm very confused by the reverting of pics, try doing a test with buffs over 1-2min. So far you either do a test with buffs for about 3sec(which is so skewed to AP spammer its not even funny) or you do an actual test over an extended period of time without buffs(which is entire point of dagger spammer). Roland 00:46, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Orders is only good with physway, and even then it's 2.75s cast+aftercast every 5s when you could be doing lots of things better than giving +17dmg a hit. Imo that's an example of over-focus to the point of inefficiency. And I'd be glad to test longer than 4s if Anet changes MoD to trigger AP. What's a reasonable estimate of Honor's dmg difference if APspiker places it with other midliners compared to daggerspammer placing it for himself Fianchetto 19:42, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Just noticed that the pet is on avoid. Lol. [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px|link=User:Chieftain Alex]] Chieftain   Alex  13:16, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I thought it would be prettier if it didn't keep hitting while I screenshotted. Think about it, how else would you get 160 dps Fianchetto 15:45, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * :D yeah realised that somewhat after typing it :p [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px|link=User:Chieftain Alex]] <font face="Calibri" color="Black" size="2.5">Chieftain  <font face="Calibri" color=CC6633 size="2.5"> Alex  16:01, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Whatever, I have my own share of pvx brainfarts Fianchetto 16:20, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Has been moved to User:Fianchetto/N/P Paramancer due to PvX:WELL. Please do not submit troll builds to the Build namespace. -- Toraen   confer  08:53, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * If anyone wants a serious build based on Mark of Fury, adren, and cracked armor, say the word :p But yeah, there's no way Malign+Holy Spear can ever be serious Fianchetto 15:45, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

IA Ranger
What was the point of putting this on the talk page? -- Relyk 20:57, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Why, to see if you were paying attention! And to...talk. Yes. Fianchetto 21:02, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Admin Noticeboard
Fianchetto, I'd like to help you remind about a policy. The AN is not a talk page. Discuss matter through private talk pages or build talk pages only. The AN is for pointing out flaws, and is not for continuing about it. Please create another topic or create a topic on the build's talk page. Greetings,  Shadow Honor The Elementalists! 22:47, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Just to give shadow some context; he's been hammered twice before for discussing on AN :P [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px|link=User:Chieftain Alex]] <font face="Calibri" color="Black" size="2.5">Chieftain  <font face="Calibri" color=CC6633 size="2.5"> Alex  23:21, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
 * That's why I help other people now to prevent another ban. My good deed this year :P. PREVENTION! (Now, there is one exception, and that is with ***)  Shadow Honor The Elementalists! 23:22, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
 * haha much appreciated Fianchetto 03:10, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Your cat problem
You can stop them coming near your house/window by placing waterbottles outside. I think the fear of them falling on them scares them... Or maybe the humidity/moisture they give off... Or when you've got time, throw some of the bottles at the cats. Make sure to scent the bottles with your hate; the cats will recognise not to return. You're welcome. Soi Sticker 07:34, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * No clue how it works but it's not "falling on them", but you can place milk jugs full of water on your lawn to prevent dogs from crapping in your yard.  RąʂKɭɘş ♣  14/f/japan  07:51, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Raskles, tell me how you know this. <font color="black" face="script ms bold">Shadow  <font color="darkblue" face="script ms bold">Chivalry  07:58, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * We do it in our lawn, they just don't like the jugs for some reason, no clue why.  RąʂKɭɘş ♣  14/f/japan  09:41, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * spray bottle, if that isn't enough, get out the supersoaker-- Relyk 10:32, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Flamethrower*  RąʂKɭɘş ♣  14/f/japan  10:51, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Get a dog. When you hear the cats at ~3am go and casually take him for a stroll around the garden. It's good fun. Pew  Pew   10:55, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * lol knowing the folks here, laying liquids around is just begging for a prank, and i'm still on engineering dept's Wanted List. if i suddenly stop submitting random builds for a few weeks, you'll know they finally got me :((( Fianchetto 16:01, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Stop posting shit. <font color="Black">Vorpal [[Image:Vorpal_Signature_1.jpg|19px]] 17:08, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * on my talk page. Fianchetto 17:26, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Bit harsh, Vorpal. Fianchetto's contributions are a blast from the past! @Rask; I think it's seeing their reflection, scares them because it's deformed and they get depressed. Soi Sticker 20:04, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * or they see themselves doing their thing in the reflection and get embarrassed. cats probably have dignity or something. are pandas cats? Fianchetto 14:51, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
 * It works with opaque jugs, doubt it's the reflection.  RąʂKɭɘş ♣  14/f/japan  15:13, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

1RR
Violate it again and I will shove my foot up your ass-- Relyk  21:47, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * the removal was stupid. wanna email me your feet? &#9823;Fianchetto [[Image:Mending.jpg|19px|link=User_talk:Fianchetto]] 21:51, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Giving heroes Heart of shadow and Viper's defense is stupid as fuck <font face="Calibri" color=black>Chieftain Alex  22:22, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Removed it again Fian, look at the RC for the reason why. Cheers, --  Shadow Step 22:24, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * that whole page is pretty pointless since anyone can run through NM mobs with Shadow Form. but if you're going to take a hero along, might as well use it to hop around terrain. it's not rocket science &#9823;Fianchetto [[Image:Mending.jpg|19px|link=User_talk:Fianchetto]] 22:30, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Not true, it is not pointless. I can tell you, I am quicker with that build than sf, on a sin! --  Shadow Step 22:32, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * there shouldn't be fixed builds because you won't be able to take along 7 of the same heroes is this a bad joke? do you take 7 any/P's for running? and i'm pretty sure shadowstepping every few seconds is faster...if the mob doesn't have hexes (again, SF advantage and why people trash vote it) &#9823;Fianchetto [[Image:Mending.jpg|19px|link=User_talk:Fianchetto]] 22:36, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I do, yes, what do you think. I have 7 Paras???? Nooooo. I always take my paras, my monks and if I need something else I take them. You know, you don't get every hero from the moment you step into any world? --  Shadow Step 22:42, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * sigh hello internets. i didn't say you had 7 paras, your RC note says you use 7 of the same heroes (i assume any/P) which is just...yeah. there's already Build:Any/A_General_Shadow_Form_Runner and Build:Any/A_Desolation_Runner which has same/better IMS with shadowstepping (which is much faster than ground travel). only reason to bring a hero is if you're bad and need support, or if you want to spam shadowsteps. i never thought this would get so complicated... &#9823;Fianchetto [[Image:Mending.jpg|19px|link=User_talk:Fianchetto]] 22:55, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * How about this: You're all idiots because that build is retarded. If you're taking a hero (without spell protection) running then I assume you don't need spell protection, in which case why can't you go /P and run incoming + fallback? If this is supposed to be an actual hero build to be used in the party then why the fuck is the entire bar dedicated to IMS? Maybe you guys should start looking at the big picture before you go at each other's throats for stupid shit, and fianchetto maybe you should be less of a whining child when it comes to people editing the wiki. People are allowed to have opinions, when there's a majority opinion then you're shit out of luck, period. 75.142.155.43 23:24, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * ^ was me  Rask ✂  ✂  ✂  ✂  23:25, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Now, calm down. Serious. Why you can't go solo /P is because your heroes act as meat shield. Running with 8 instead of one increases your chance of survival enormously. Thereby, using multiple heroes with several important shouts, they will be kept up indefinetely. Fall Back+Incoming=33% IMS and 26 Heal per seconds, and that heal is more than enough when running. There is no reason to attack users, and there is a reason why this build can be used. It's for those that like to run from the start and don't like to kill every thing. --  Shadow Step 23:28, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Raskles, you badasss... --  Shadow Step 23:28, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * We don't store builds because people are too retarded to hit 1-7 and dodge enemies. Sorry to say.  Rask ✂  ✂  ✂  ✂  23:35, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * We do, since day 1 --  Shadow Step 23:41, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * 12/f acting like a kid again...and i'm pretty tired of the "majority" here being stupid.
 * hi...it wasn't about "solo /P." it was about some geniuses deleting stuff because they didn't understand, or they've never dungeon raced. nice work guys. &#9823;Fianchetto [[Image:Mending.jpg|19px|link=User_talk:Fianchetto]] 23:49, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm going to make a greasemonkey script that replaces all text between ":" and " Fianchetto [[Image:Mending.jpg|19px|link=User_talk:Fianchetto]] " with "I'm a drama queen, give me attention plz". 75.142.155.43 00:58, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * funny how you think i enjoy dealing with this idiocy. (if you're going to spam all over this wiki, at least try to be a more interesting troll.) anyway, i assume people know the point of shadowstep travel...starting this section was pretty stupid, huh &#9823;Fianchetto [[Image:Mending.jpg|19px|link=User_talk:Fianchetto]] 15:07, 17 March 2012 (UTC)