Archive talk:Team - AB Shatterway

I believe you misspelled "shitterway" ;D Karate  Jesus  00:39, 11 November 2009
 * LOL i cant tell if thats a burn or if your just saying that this build is lame.Ajsnuker 00:45, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * It's a bit of both, but OP shit is OP. So....yea. Karate [[File:KJ for sig.png]] Jesus  00:51, 11 November 2009
 * Either you play for fun or play to win. And if shit wins then being clean is a waste of time. Less wikicry please76.185.20.44 05:01, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * This build is pretty fun tbh :).Ajsnuker 05:18, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * fgt. -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 23:17, November 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * I vote that we change the "a" to an "i" in the title. I thought of this totally original joke before seeing this talk page.--War_Pig5 07:53, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Plague sending on necro, mend condition off monk and replace it with prot spirit imo. Consitini  09:25, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

DISCUSS
DISCUSS/RATE OR WHATEVER!!! Ajsnuker 22:58, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

please? O_o Ajsnuker 00:43, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * replace defile defenses with plague sending, you have sa--Relyk 00:50, November 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * Optionals isn't good enough? Ajsnuker 01:32, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * i dont see any optional slots--Relyk 05:40, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * Variants, even. I suggest dropping that HUGE spec into shadow arts. 3 is fine. ~ Big  [[Image:Big sadface sig.PNG]]  sysop  11:07, November 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * I thought it would be appropriate since the pieway CE necro has 8 spec shadow. Ajsnuker 17:00, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Lets get this and the other 3 AB builds out of testing.Ajsnuker 04:26, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

I can't decided whether I think this is good or not. -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 23:17, November 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * only because no one has told you either way. Gringo 23:19, November 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * Augury seems meh to me there, I wouldn't stick IV on the necro. The sins can gank stuff well and MoP + dual attacks is lol. Overkill on conditionremoval. -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 23:28, November 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * IV is like 100 aoe dmg, potentially every 5 seconds (realistically less, but it makes shit pop). augury is the only available deep wound for R/As, and its a free 100 dmg thusly. And im assuming FF is for energy management, but the monk bar should have draw if thats the case. Gringo 01:16, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * FF can be used for energy management but i was thinking more on the lines of using it to get dangerous conditions off the sins, like blind and cripple. Ajsnuker 03:05, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * Most other elites are pressure and/or bad, and I can't think of any other one than WK in the morning. Impale? -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 10:07, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * How about twisting fangs and taking out the points from dark arts? Also PS or SB on the monk is really nice. The necro needs plague sending so the monk can drop the condition removals. Wazzaa4u 19:25, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * Your grammar and terminology is utterly retarded, but I was surprised to find your points werent. Mending Touch + Mend Condition + FF is lol. I could actually consider keeping mendtouch on the monk so it can get rid of covered cripple/deep wound without having to rely on a baddie necro. Prot Spirit. -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 19:47, November 24, 2009 (UTC)


 * Will you rate this if i main-bar prot spirit and plauge sending? Ajsnuker 22:45, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

OoV
Seen it done with Order of the vampire. Hate these groups, they blow up my normally beastly frenzy heal sig monk <font color="Pink">Smity Smitington talk2me 13:42, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * Done with 1 OoV derv healer and 3 R/As [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  19:33, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

IV sucks
Take CE or CF ffs--TahiriVeila 07:05, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed. This type of team usually relies on weapon spells for interrupt and AoE. Support Rt is voted great in AB: Build:Rt/A AB Support Ritualist - could it work here? --War_Pig5 07:53, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * IV, WoD, SS, WK. you can fit like any necro elite in here.<font color="green" size="2px">Ajsnuker 19:12, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * lol WoD in AB. I'd prolly bring Weaken Knees even though it sucks after the nerf. -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 20:26, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Mark of Pain is fun, but you won't get instagibs with two shittering assault sins so npcs will probably just run around and avoid the damage... could work in groups of human players, however. Personally, I'd lower shadow arts and soul reaping to spec 8-9 into blood magic and take strip enchantment(replacing MoP)... or you could take pain of disenchantment, but I prefer soul bind or smth. Defile defenses should be mainbarred, or toss wild strike on one ranger.Gimme 06:07, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * I H/H AB, so MoP doesn't work for me. -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 09:47, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Defile Defenses used to be mainbar but if you read above everybody else wanted plague sending and prot spirit on the monk... so....Majority rules :/.<font color="green" size="2px">Ajsnuker 21:07, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Why does it have to be one or the other? Of course you need something to get rid of the conditions once you FF them, but you can still dump a utility skill like return for defile.  Otherwise, rangers with blocks will be pretty resistant to this build.. there is always wild strike, btw.75.92.47.248 03:33, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Muffin is a shitter. May this be noted. -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 21:34, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * I only added Muffins Idea so he could revote and put this in the great category. Everyone had an overall of 4.8 - 5 except for Muffin who gave it and overall of 3. Landing this build in the "Good" category.<font color="green" size="2px">Ajsnuker 21:36, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Muffin is popular enough for you to have it removed by posting on AN. -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 21:38, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * running 3 R/As and an Orders derv means you can support other teams if ur team dies off and ur not grouped, thus its more resilient to deaths + easier to run. Not to mention its much easier to get ppl to run 3 R/As (which is very easy to run and hard to mess up) . Did i mention taking a necro sucks in this team build considering you can output more damage with 2 Warriors and Nukers [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  23:28, November 30, 2009 (UTC)  [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN    <font color="Green">crabs  23:24, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't think you did mention. -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 11:32, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Lamer way
one of the rangers needs wild strike <font color="HotPink">Smity Smitington talk2me 02:02, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * Unless you run GFS for Jagged there's no point. <font color=Orange face="Comic Sans MS">Shazzy diddles 03:47, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * Removing IAS, Removing IMS (really good for AB), Removing defensive blocking. It's good utility to have it on at least one of them.--<font color ="Blue">Ikimono <font color ="Brown"> "...And my axe!" [[Image:Monk-Paragon-icon.png]] 05:31, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

lol... its gonna get archived after update >.>, my only vetted build -- <font color="black" size="2px">Ajsnuker   05:30, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Omg noober lrn ply ^___^
 * Also, AB builds don't count anyways. -- Chaos?  -- 10:22, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * But i suck at PvX -- <font color="black" size="2px">Ajsnuker  [[Image:File-Ajsnukerprage.jpg|19px]] 23:45, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Which means you fail at copying from top guilds which mean you fail at life. I'd an hero if I were you. --Brandnew 00:26, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * My first build was a blood necro, then I made some terrible HA theorycrafts with no HA experience, went to QQ that these builds have to work, somewhere in between I raged at TahiriVeila for trashing my Shadow Form warrior runner (it actually works decently). I would say, that with a little intelligence, there is hope for everyone (some IP on today told to listen to Chaos cause Chaos is pro! ^_____^). -- Chaos?  -- 13:24, February 26, 2010 (UTC)