Archive talk:W/any Triple Chop Warrior

Discussion
New build, replacing old one that got nerfed. Discuss here. &mdash; Rapta   (talk|contribs) 17:09, 28 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Well if you're willing to remove the PvE Hero tag and leaving it as a PvE general, this build can be made much better by just adding Whirlwind Attack instead of Bodyblow. Also I don't much like self heals, I'd rather take Save Yourselves or even put some points into Tactics and go for Shields Up (it's still good for PvE pressure relief, especially if two people are carrying it, the nerf really only killed the D-Shot semiimmunity it gave in GvG). Also go Rt secondary, 3 in Restoration and use DPS sig (or add that in optional). While ur at it you can just make the att spread 12+1+1 Axe, 8+1 Str and 10 Channeling and take Splinter Weapon yourself (but more often than not it's just better to have that on another character). EDIT: Ooops I noticed SY and DPS are already in variants. :D 78.2.44.140 06:30, 30 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Congratulation, this build has been added to my favorites since it's simple, easy and fun. [[Image:Sebsig.jpg|19px]]  Seb2net  (Talk)  06:39, 30 March 2008 (EDT)

No more body blow?  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ  01:20, 2 April 2008 (EDT)

Whirlwind in Variants?
Why is Whirlwind Attack not mentioned in the variants section of this build? Since it removes the need for a zealous weapon for energy management if used instead of Cyclone Axe it should be added. Irkm Desmet 06:41, 7 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Be bold. If something obvious like that is missing, feel free to add it yourself. --[[Image:Mafaraxas_sig.jpg|click moar]] Mafaraxas  09:56, 7 April 2008 (EDT)

Dupe
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:W/any_Cleaver One skill difference. (Mr Pink57 15:00, 5 May 2008 (EDT))
 * Well the thing is that the elites are different, which can very differently change the use of a build. Triple Chop Warrior allows PBAoE mass dmg through spamming cyclone axe+triple chop+whirlwind attack. any_Cleaver's elite is used for a lot of dmg to one target and only uses cyclone axe for easy adrenaline gain. If it was only one or two normal skills different then it would be a dupe, but in this case the elite is different, and since the elite is the main body of most builds, these two builds are not dupes (though they are similar. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Crimmastermind (contribs) 01:48, 25 June 2008.
 * I agree, AoE damage is very different than single target damage. They both do great damage but deal them a different way. --[[Image:Dervsig.png]]Angelus ( stalk ) 12:09, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

lol
a build spamming Triple Chop and Cyclone with no WWA. -- -Ch ao  s-   10:41, 23 January 2009 (EST)
 * Please... fix it. If you want to leave it as a hero viable warrior build leave some hero optionals. If you want to make it hero only, do so. At the moment, this is pretty crappy and the only reason I could see for taking it as the bar stands currently is in a full physical team with orders etc where you were missing one more physical player. - [[Image:Miserysig.PNG|117px]] (talk)  10:44, 23 January 2009 (EST)
 * Absolutely agree, it has no Whirlwind Attack, SY! isnt even mentioned as variant and how come its in Great section? --Anonimous. D: 10:47, 23 January 2009 (EST)


 * SY is actually mentioned. I'll be away for a few hours but will see what I can force myself into doing sick atm and it leaves me tired :< -- -Ch ao  s-  [[Image:TheDentist.jpg|19px]] 10:51, 23 January 2009 (EST)


 * Havent noticed.
 * Changed it around little, added Whirlwind, Body Blow 14 strength because you are using EC removed funny things like Mending Touch in Variant section tell me what you think. --Anonimous. D: 10:52, 23 January 2009 (EST)
 * As I know nothing about PvE, I'll keep my nose out, but a vote wipe is in order, yes? - [[Image:Miserysig.PNG|117px]] (talk)  10:57, 23 January 2009 (EST)
 * Purge conditions is pretty bad, except maybe if you are enterring an area with a lot of conditions and interruptions.Pika Fan  10:59, 23 January 2009 (EST)
 * Bad PvPer question here, do you really need Enraging Charge with Triple Chop and Cyclone Axe on the bar? - [[Image:Miserysig.PNG|117px]] (talk)  11:00, 23 January 2009 (EST)
 * Yeah Misery if you can this needs re-vote.
 * Enraging Charge is good if you are using SY! or Whirlwind Attack and you can use Flail straight away or cancel it after battle. --Anonimous. D: 11:03, 23 January 2009 (EST)
 * Fair enough. Vote wiping. - [[Image:Miserysig.PNG|117px]] (talk)  11:05, 23 January 2009 (EST)

Dismember vs BBlow, +100 damage vs +38, 5 adren vs 7. Surely unless your running a team with lots of cracked armor (Weaken Armor + Extend Conditions!) dismember would be the better choice, + heal redux from deep wound. Frosty  po!  11:08, 23 January 2009 (EST)


 * That 100 damage you can only benefit from only once so in long term Body Blow would be more effective. Long term is area attacks...good point. --Anonimous. D: 11:15, 23 January 2009 (EST)

major on strength btw :< -- -Ch ao  s-   11:27, 23 January 2009 (EST)
 * So? - [[Image:Panic_sig7.gif‎]] 11:32, 23 January 2009 (EST)
 * it means that I question it, duh. hits breakpoint for enraging tho. -- -Ch ao  s-  [[Image:TheDentist.jpg|19px]] 11:34, 23 January 2009 (EST)
 * Thats the point... ever played hammer warr b4? [[Image:Frostrage.jpg|19px]]Frosty  po!  11:38, 23 January 2009 (EST)
 * today. this is an axe build. -- -Ch ao  s-  [[Image:TheDentist.jpg|19px]] 11:39, 23 January 2009 (EST)
 * Guess what? It hits the EC breakpoint if you use an axe, too. - [[Image:Panic_sig7.gif‎]] 11:41, 23 January 2009 (EST)
 * Point is you take major for bp [[Image:Frostrage.jpg|19px]]Frosty  po!  11:42, 23 January 2009 (EST)
 * has so strong adrenaline gain I wouldn't say it's needed, but do as you please. -- -Ch ao  s-  [[Image:TheDentist.jpg|19px]] 11:49, 23 January 2009 (EST)
 * If you run Enraging Charge run with 14 strength it is very useful to hit that 4 adren breakpoint. For high armor Warriors having -35hp doesnt pose any problem. --Anonimous. D: 12:24, 23 January 2009 (EST)

Conjures
I want to remove them, absolutely useless it would requre you to swap to Elemental Axe so you are no longer effected by orders or trigger Barbs, Mark of Pain. If you wanna make similar Build with Conjure it is better to simply make another article. --Anonimous. D: 14:00, 23 January 2009 (EST)


 * makes unable to use zealous axe with conjure. just remove it. -- -Ch ao  s-  [[Image:TheDentist.jpg|19px]] 14:02, 23 January 2009 (EST)
 * Done. Now someone needs to add Luxon SY! to Variant section some people might get confused seeing only Kurzick version. --Anonimous. D: 14:06, 23 January 2009 (EST)
 * utter retards perhaps.-- Ikimono Needs more Paragon [[Image:Monk-Paragon-icon.png]] 14:07, 23 January 2009 (EST)
 * Not really, newer players coming to PvX for builds but w/e. --Anonimous. D: 14:10, 23 January 2009 (EST)
 * Simply put, when someone sees "Save Yourself!" they -should- assume the version they have. Though i guess someone could get confused.-- Ikimono Needs more Paragon [[Image:Monk-Paragon-icon.png]] 14:16, 23 January 2009 (EST)

HB
+ Whirlwind is more epic. Fox007  17:09, 23 January 2009 (EST)
 * is a cliche, dependant on the size of the mob, can spam less. this is also older. -- -Ch ao  s-  [[Image:TheDentist.jpg|19px]] 05:28, 24 January 2009 (EST)

I took off hero usage since the build now has sunspear skills &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eastwind II (contribs).
 * I wonder what the tag did there anyways. -- -Ch  ao  s-   00:15, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

EBSoH
throwing this into variants because it destroys not only with the aoe skills, but with a MM, which everyone runs now to some degree.Atomisk8115 22:57, 30 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh wait its already there -_- ITS GODMODE Atomisk8115 22:57, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Archived?
Why exactly was this build archived? I don't think it deserved to be in the great category, but 100b is certainly not better for general use... Dok 05:02, November 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * It has become inferior. | --  Dark Mugen  05:04, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * So an axe build gets archived because a sword skill is arguably better? Yeah, that makes perfect sense. o.O Jimbo321 20:51, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Reverted. The reason given for the archiving by Life Guardian - "Triple Chop became inferior to Hundred Blades following 100b's buff" - is completely insane. Jimbo321 21:19, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, yeah, not entirely sure why it was archived. Would've reverted earlier had i seen it. - [[Image:Porororroro lau.gif]] Athrun Feya - 21:22, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

"Archiving an axe build because a sword elite got a buff is preposterous." Not very. It's the same profession, just buy new gear. -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 21:24, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * My point is that Hundred Blades getting buffed has absolutely nothing to do with an unrelated axe build. The only thing that's similar is that they're both Warrior builds that provide some PBAoE. But the same can be said for Enduring Scythe and WE Axe. Jimbo321 22:44, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * What other kind of AoE is a warrior going to be doing besides point blank? o.o Anyways, I'd say this is inferior to WE Axe since you can spam Cyclone with that and have energy for Scan, Power Attack etc etc. Spaggage  talk  22:47, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * You're not taking into account the fact that they're just different attributes. I should force through a water build for PvE.
 * The profession is the same and the purpose is to deal AoE damage. I don't care about the qualities of the build, and you can well unarchive the build, but the fact that it's an axe build should play no part in that reasoning. -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 22:52, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Variant?
Posted this up as a trail build but then i was directed here, it seems the build i posted is slightly similiar so i thought maybe you would add it to your variants?

OQcTEZJ/HC3B8JqAq4t8q4vSVE -- FlashingTurtle 21:41, February 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, to be honest, the bar on the build page is better. -- Chaos?  -- 21:49, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Archival
No problem here, as long as 100b is also archived. Both are terribly inferior to other warrior builds. Dok 18:31, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Uhhhh no-- Relyk  talk  20:34, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * That guy is not very 'manly' is he?--<font color="Blue" face="cambria">Pirate 20:41, September 20, 2010 (UTC)