Archive talk:E/Me Mist Form Raptor Farmer

Discuss Please-- 00:43, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

When he explains how to use the build he doesn't mention using Mist Form...
 * Totally inferior to permaform sins ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG]] 01:27, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Stop making Raptor builds, it's annoying and pointless now, since there are plenty of them. &mdash; [[Image:DestructiveWasGlaiveInvert.jpg|20px]] eX tinctioN (Talk /Contributions ) 05:26, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * ^, also, farming raptors doesn't give much useful stuff anymore. -- Sazzy  06:45, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Interrupts. ---  Ressmonkey (talk)  16:17, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * You cast Stoneflesh or whatever its called, then Glyph and run into the cave. Once Glyph runs out, use Mist form.  No interrupts.  --[[Image:Crossfire's Signature.JPG]] 16:33, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Say wut? I thought mistform negated the damage, but all the rest still happens, eg, the interrupts? -- Sazzy  17:09, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Magnetic Aura.--[[Image:Crossfire's Signature.JPG]] 17:19, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Not exactly failsafe with that many raptors hitting you but it will do i guess -- Sazzy  17:51, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * I already went over this on the SS raptor farmer. With that one, you will probably get interrupted through blind.  With this one, which has a 250% better chance of being interrupted then blind, ull still get interrupted more.  Try again Crossfire. --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]]  Ressmonkey (talk)  18:23, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Why deos the build state something about /A farmers. E/Me is by far the best. ---  Ressmonkey (talk)  18:25, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Shadow_Form | HA FUCKING HA!!! LOL--[[Image:Crossfire's Signature.JPG]] 18:39, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Yeah... I dont like the E/A SF farmers.  If u take too long u die.  I prefer to use Archive:E/Me Renewal Sliver Raptor Farmer except with Glyph of Renewal instead of WaF and Mental Block instead of Magnetic Aura.  So wut? --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]]  Ressmonkey (talk)  18:44, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * (EC)meh, I agreed on adding signet of disenchant and hexbreaker in uw as that completely fucked up the economy, but wrecking SF completely was a bit overboard. (solo green farm etc) -- Sazzy  18:45, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Those fuckers, they nerfed shadow form... --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]] Ressmonkey (talk)  18:47, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Lol Shadowform i miss youu :P--[[Image:Crossfire's Signature.JPG]] 00:21, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

It works for sure now
Cant be interrupted, energy is GREATLY managed. Like each spell u cast you gain like 30 energy ^^, and you still farm the boss. 5-5-5 material?-- 19:21, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Can Armor of Mist be exchanged for EBSoH? Or do you absolutely need the IMS and armor? Otherwise, it looks very sexy, tbh. ــмıкε  нaшк  20:55, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * The IMS should be used but yes it can be replaced.--[[Image:Crossfire's Signature.JPG]] 20:56, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * And then there's Intensity instead of Glyph to deal slightly more damage, although you'll be counting on Air of Superiority to renew it. ــмıкε  нaшк  21:00, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * AoS was taken out for MAgnetic aura because without magnetic aura you will die and a lot of -6 energys will pop up.--[[Image:Crossfire's Signature.JPG]] 21:01, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

successfully farmed
I got a Turtle shell longbow, 2 saurian bones and a Gold scroll from my first Youtube run. Im uploading the video now. Gotta take a few minutes before they actually allow the video on youtube.-- 21:30, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * 3 5-5-5s so far. gj. [[image:IAmJebus_sig2.jpg|19px]] * Jebus  *   Is    I  22:56, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * blindingfireflames is your youtube account? [[image:IAmJebus_sig2.jpg|19px]] * Jebus  *   Is    I  22:59, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * YUP :) blind the fire is my ele.--[[Image:Crossfire's Signature.JPG]] 23:13, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Glyph of Sacrifice
Works better than Glyph of ele power imo. Use it RIGHT before you use mist form. The original concept makes you take some damage before putting up mist form. Discuss please.-- 09:25, 5 July 2008 (EDT)

Apologies
Hey sorry I edited this post a couple days ago without signing up... and then read the rules about not changing other peoples posts >.<

The line changed was: A staff with +30 health +5 health, a staff with +60 health, and 20% enchantments.

I assumed you ment: A staff with +30hp +5 energy or +60hp staff, and an additional 20%enchant staff.

--PuneY 09:56, 5 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Np.--[[Image:Crossfire's Signature.JPG]] 09:58, 5 July 2008 (EDT)


 * i don't think a staff can have +60 health (+30 prefix, +30 suffix) and a 20% longer enchant mod :P, which is why i suggested the alternate weapon set, but the +30 +5nrg one can... so long as the +5 nrg is the inscription and not the suffix. - good build btw :D

--PuneY 10:09, 5 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Thanks ^^--[[Image:Crossfire's Signature.JPG]] 10:12, 5 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Yes it can, Hale Staff head and Staff wrapping of Fortitude. / Fros  T  alk  \ 10:23, 5 July 2008 (EDT)
 * But it said +60 health and 20% enchanting, so that'd be two wrappings. ــмıкε  нaшк  10:24, 5 July 2008 (EDT)
 * ups, well said. / Fros  T  alk  \ 10:25, 5 July 2008 (EDT)

this works perfect this works perfect ceratin after the SF nerfAxelfoly 04:20, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
 * ups ^^ <3--[[Image:Crossfire's Signature.JPG]] 08:16, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

atribs
say 12+1+1 earth, shouldn't it be 12+1+3? IC YF IF T YF I VE 22:36, 19 July 2008 (EDT)


 * Yes thank-you. Wasnt it that before?!--[[Image:Crossfire's Signature.JPG]] 23:31, 19 July 2008 (EDT)


 * And now it's 11+1+2? Err... there's more then enough time to aggro and cast everything with only 10 water magic + GoEP or 12 water and Glyph of Sac, so why is everything in water? IC YF IF T YF <font color="#055000">I <font color="#011000">VE  18:30, 20 July 2008 (EDT)

Heroes
Set Gwen (or Norgu) up with this build, and flag them at the beginning for an increased run time of approximately 3-5 seconds, as well as a safer run (via Cautery Signet) by negating most of the effects of Rekoff's Twisting Jaws, at the cost of half the gold (no drops, just gold) [build prof=Me/P fast=12+1+3 command=12][Fall Back][Make Haste][Symbolic Celerity][Cautery Signet][Optional][Optional][Optional][Optional][/build] <font color="#011000">IC <font color="#055000">YF <font color="#099000">IF <font color="#0CC000">T <font color="#099000">YF <font color="#055000">I <font color="#011000">VE 18:40, 20 July 2008 (EDT)
 * It affects drops. --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]] Ressmonkey (talk)  18:47, 20 July 2008 (EDT)
 * agreed. i just want to see the hero die from burning :P [[image:IAmJebus_sig2.jpg|19px]] * Jebus  *   Is    I  19:57, 20 July 2008 (EDT)

yup, i prefer mist form to stoneflesh/armor of earth/ etc, i use this to clear the cave in 2.5min.. they dont break aggro [: oh guess what, I failed trying to make the build again... could someone help me fix it? HareeMuh 17:32, 12 October 2008 (EDT) [build prof=E/Me watermagic=12+1+3 earthmagic=8+3 inspirationmagic=8 airmagic=4] [Glyph Of Swiftness][Mist Form][Intensity][Ebon Battle Standard Of Honor][Sliver Armor][Mental Block][Mantra Of Resolve][Channeling][/build]
 * Make sure to leave a space between "build" and "prof", and there can't be any spaces in the names of the attributes. ــмıкε  нaшк  17:36, 12 October 2008 (EDT)

battle standard
channeling should be swapped for battle standard of honour, energy isnt that much of a problem as you can get energy air of superiority.Lodgeinator 09:18, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Mantra of Resolve screws ur energy. --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]] Ressmonkey (talk)  15:45, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
 * not realy if you start with 70 energy(easy with energy storage and edification) then you can compleat the run each time with no energy problemsLodgeinator 09:45, 31 October 2008 (EDT).
 * No... Mist Form doesnt stop the effects of attacks, just the damage.  You will lose 16-32 energy every time u use a 1 sec cast skill because of manta of resolve. --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]]  Ressmonkey (talk)  21:05, 31 October 2008 (EDT)
 * but magnetic aura can block disrupting so you wont lose as much energy as that, try it it works.Lodgeinator 08:04, 2 November 2008 (EST)
 * Can people test the build without channeling as the energy it gives isnt needed(far more effective to get more damage eg ebon battle standard).Lodgeinator 09:59, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Faster Variant for People with max titles

 * Or close to max titles.. r9+ Asuran at least; others are optional.
 * Note: Activating Mist form 1/2 late ish will usually drop your HP enough to have a 20s long "By Ural's Hammer!"

[build prof=E/Me earthmagic=12+1+3 watermagic=8+1 inspirationmagic=9 energystorage=5] [Mindbender@10][Mist Form][Magnetic Aura][Channeling][Ebon Battle Standard of Honor@10][Sliver Armor][By Urals Hammer@10][Mantra of Resolve][/build]


 * Usage:


 * Activate Mantra of Resolve
 * Walk to cave
 * Cast Mindbender
 * Aggro by looping along the left side of the big rock in the centre
 * Run towards rekoff
 * As soon as you're in range (or mindbender is about to run out) cast Mist Form
 * Magnetic Aura --> Channeling --> EBSoH --> Sliver Armor & "BUH!"
 * If Rekoff magically ends your mantra with wild strike, be sure to reapply it in time
 * When Rekoff dies, start your chain again, starting with mindbender to halve the casting time of your whole chain


 * Note: If you take Intensity over BUH! make sure to cast it before sliver armor, as it will often not cast in time of rekoff dying with high ranks in the Ebon Vanguard rank
 * enjoi :* <font color="#011000">IC <font color="#055000">YF <font color="#099000">IF <font color="#0CC000">T <font color="#099000">YF <font color="#055000">I <font color="#011000">VE  13:05, 7 December 2008 (EST)
 * I'm using similar build but without Magnetic Aura which I think is needless. I prefer using AoS than MA, thanks to AoS I can keep all skills active almost all the time, regardless of Rekoff death which not always occur before SA ends. Weapons i use: spear with 20% ench and +5e insc, water focus with 20% HCT and +15e/-1e insc.

[build prof=E/Me ins=7 ear=12+1+3 wat=10+1 ene=4+1][Mantra of Resolve][Channeling][Air of Superiority][Armor of Mist][Mist Form][Sliver Armor][Ebon Battle Standard of Honor]["By Ural's Hammer!"][/build]
 * MoR->Channeling->AoS->AoM->aggro raptors->MF->SA->EBSoH->"BUH"->keeping all skills active. I have 101 energy so i don't have any problems with energy management. One run (28-40 raptors) takes me 70-90 seconds. Failure rate: very close to 0% ;). 83.7.12.126 18:06, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry to tell you, but if you want speed, a warrior with a paragon hero is the fastest.--Xutar 04:10, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Question
Sorry if i'm being thick but i often see people looking for leechers during the raptor farm and i was wondering what the advantage of it was?195.137.63.16 17:14, 3 January 2009 (EST)
 * There is no advantage. People tend to think the drops are increased, but they arent. --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]]  Ressmonkey (talk)  09:30, 4 January 2009 (EST)
 * Actually youre wrong. Drops are actually increased, but your party member gets no drops for theyre notin range. ive done at least 1,000 runs and without a partner, i usually get blues, and purples.  With a partner, its more golds.  But mainly, the best part of leeching, is to get free exp.   -Crossfire  <font color="#B3C51B">XIV [[Image:Crossfire-Winter Gift.png|19px]]  10:39, 4 January 2009 (EST)
 * Im just letting you know, there is no advantage to having leechers. You may think there is, but there isnt.  This discussion is over, take it to Rata Sum since there are at least 5000 arguments about this a day. --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]]  Ressmonkey (talk)  13:21, 4 January 2009 (EST)
 * Only money and shitty mcwhiteitems are increased. --<font color="Purple">Ojamo  <font color="Green">(>.<( O=(- -Q)  13:25, 4 January 2009 (EST)
 * But people who arent within radar range receive no drops. So loot scaling probably applies to the number of people within radar range of the drop.  So, if you really are getting around loot scaling, you should see a HUGE (300% at least) increase in non-gold drops, which I doubt you are.  If you see an increase in gold items or something along the lines of 50% increase in drops, its random chance. --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]]  Ressmonkey (talk)  13:42, 4 January 2009 (EST)
 * Well it cant hurt to have leechers. I only take my friends for free Asura.  -Crossfire  <font color="#B3C51B">XIV [[Image:Crossfire-Winter Gift.png|19px]]  22:14, 5 January 2009 (EST)
 * They can rezone for you=faster run
 * Smart people know how to do that without leechers. --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]]<font color="Blue"> Ressmonkey  (talk) 19:30, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Mantra of Resolve Nerf
MoR reduced to 5 second duration.. wonder if this build will still be viable.
 * Build probably isnt viable. But it doesnt matter because everybody runs W/N if theyre decent because its just better. --- <font color="Blue"> Ressmonkey  (talk) 00:23, September 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * Except for maybe those people that aren't farming for drops but rather for asuran points on their eles.../GaspThe End.66 01:57, September 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * /leech... --- <font color="Blue"> Ressmonkey  (talk) 02:06, September 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedbooking is better AFAIK. --[[Image:Jaigoda_endrant.jpg|/rant]]  Jai  writes a  lot . . . 02:09, September 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well for me, my warrior isn't there yet, and is still working on survivor (so I probably won't get there anytime soon) and I care more about festival drops than asura reputation points. Fortunately, I had a 'sin handy and perma-d the weekend away, but I sure didn't like the big ol' middle finger A-Net gave to caster farmers. --Falseprophet 20:39, September 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * This build still works with mor nerf.Lodgeinator 13:53, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Archive
this should be archived as per may 21 update nerf to sliver armor.

Sliver Armor Nerf
doesnt work anymore because of sliver armor nerf -_-


 * May A-net burn for the sliver update. "Fixed a bug" my arse :/ 145.53.249.48 06:41, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Still have to test it, but probably Rekoff would take too long to kill and that could be a problem. I used a variant of this build to farm them, but I'll probably have the same problem, may try later. Anyway, many sliver farms are dead now T.T --Lhoj 07:48, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

New way to farm after SA nerf
I believe I have a new way, tell me if I'm wrong people but yea. [build prof=Ele/Mes water magic=12+1+3 Insperation?=12 [Glyph of Swiftness][Mist Form][Channeling][Spirit of Failure][Radiation Field][Mantra of Resolve][Ether Nightmare][Cry of Pain][/build] &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.47.144.220 (talk &bull; contribs).

It's more like:

and you only need to show the skill bar anon-- Relyk  talk  19:57, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Does it work though?