Build talk:D/any General Vow of Strength Farmer

= Merge = Since there are so many Vow of Strength builds, I think it makes sense to combine them all on one page, like we did with the Vow of Silence farms. ZStepmother (talk) 17:36, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm really not sold on this since the only common skill is VoS in this case. You've listed Sand Shards as mainbar, but two of the proposed merge builds don't even have it (though they do all have Eremite's, that should be listed mainbar instead). -Toraen (talk) 02:38, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * The only odd one is the Vaettir farmer (hp stacking), all the others are the same concept: use VoS to spike groups of enemies, use earth prayer / mysticism enchants to stay alive while creating a ball. While you are correct that they only really share VoS and Eremite's, a lot of the listed skills are shared between the different builds.  The page is not entirely complete yet, but I don't see why this wouldn't be an improvement over what we have already. The ultimate goal is to help people figure out their builds, and a page like this provides players with all the info they need to create their own VoS builds for other farms (mainly Nick sets), while giving some good examples of how to utilize the skills to the fullest. ZStepmother (talk) 12:20, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Sidenote: I just copied the format of the Vow of Silence page, so if you didn't like the formatting here, you'll probably want to edit it there too ZStepmother (talk) 12:25, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * The Vaettir and Raptor builds might be good candidates for staying separate. They utilize Mark of Pain and go for one clean spike instead of spike+autos. That strategy doesn't really pay off anywhere else since MoP will cause scatter if the spike isn't clean (I can't think of any other farmable groups off-hand that are big enough). Including it on this page might be misleading to anyone trying to build for a nick farm or similar. -Toraen (talk) 13:59, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Made some edits. I'm still not sure the D/N's belong here, but I'd feel better as long as they're separate from the others and MoP's reasons for use are called out. -Toraen (talk) 14:22, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Is it really necessary to slowly reduce PvX into one megapage per profession for each section? --DefinitelyNotHanz (talk) 21:10, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Well no, but the VoStrength farms are all so similar that it can fit on one page. And like I said, this gives people the info they need to create their own farm builds (which is mainly useful for Nick set farming, since the popular farms are all on this page now). The point of this website is to aid people with finding the right build, so why not give people all the info they need to do so? ZStepmother (talk) 21:34, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Don't underestimate how lazy people can be. Most are probably going to check the meta section, see no Vaettir build, check Great, still no build by that name, and conclude PvX doesn't have one. Reducing visibility isn't helping anyone. "create their own farm builds" - sorry but people wouln't be coming here if that's what they intended to do. They most likely just want to press ctrl + c and load it up. IMO the builds shouldn't be merged, instead a new page should be created for Nick set farming that's free to be more vague because of the wide variety of places it has to cover. --DefinitelyNotHanz (talk) 21:48, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Then I guess we should start creating seperate pages for Build:D/any General Vow of Silence Farmer again? I don't mind really, I'll just create new pages for the VoStrength farms that were missing then ZStepmother (talk) 21:58, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * We made the Vow of Silence page because they were all generally the same exact build and tactics with little variation. True all of the VoS builds have VoS in common and a few other skills, but many have very different tactics and skill differences.  The Vaettir and Raptor farms are prime examples but I would also argue the Ministerial Commendation Farm and Smite farm should also be separate.  The others I could see being merged. Mozo (talk) 02:46, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

I'm vaguely in favour of this merge but would keep the raptor and vaettir farms separate for the mentioned reasons. I've also taken the liberty to tweak the merge draft a bit. --Krschkr (talk) 01:15, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
 * With all the anniversary stuff going on, I kinda forgot about this page. I'm totally fine with leaving out the raptor and vaettir farm. Other than that, is there anything that needs to be done before we can put this build on the build namespace? ZStepmother (talk) 09:06, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I've completed the merge and archived the builds with the exception of Vaettir/Raptor as above. Could do with some votes. - Chieftain Alex (talk) 10:19, 3 May 2020 (UTC)