Archive talk:Team - 2 Man Discordway

Discord Smiter
The Discord Smiter is an optional hero. But who would it replace?!? --Supernick530 18:41, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * I guess the N/Rt healer, i've been running this 2man for ages but now looking back on this page, where did the second rt healer go? a N/Mo won't heal as good as a rt. Also some arena's need 2 rt else you will get blowed up --Bio. 23:10, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * The n/mo healer shouldn't be there anyways.-- Relyk  talk  23:13, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Relyk, you're saying that the build should be as it is but without the N/Mo HEALER, but WITH the N/MO smiter, am I understanding you right? --Supernick530 15:47, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Bio, The N/Mo healer offers 2 things that a N/Rt Resto can't offer. Dwayna's Sorrow is a strong counter to AoE dmg (minions blow up and keep u alive).  Dwayna's Kiss and Cure Hex counter hex heavy teams, which discordway would otherwise have trouble with. --Supernick530 20:22, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Restarting this thread since no one's answered. If I want to use the optional N/Mo Smiter, then which hero should I drop? --Supernick530 20:22, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * the n/mo (like i said already) or the blood necro-- Relyk  talk  23:55, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Definitely instead of the blood necro. (wtf is it doing that a human couldn't with "you're all weaklings"?) --Chieftain Alex 22:57, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

On another note, why is SoH listed both as a "regular" skill and in the optional spot?69.249.223.63 19:26, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Then bring Convert or Remove Hex on the prot. Oh wait, it already is. And there are very few hexes around, especially playing as a caster, that are threatening enough to warrant a hex removal, and this isn't really the best thing to run if you're using physicals. A N/Rt is better in like 95% of situations. Also, Dwayna's Kiss is not a hex counter. -- Jai 's Crappy Christmas Sig ...   -  22:38, December 1 2010 (UTC)

2 Man Spirit Farmer
Any idea if this could be used for the 2 players?71.236.34.138 07:18, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Run whatever you like, it'll always either work or fail. Minion Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg 09:16, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * It will work, however due to the heroes being forced to provide their own conditions {assuming one human has painful bond} the discord spikes will be less quick when engaging into battle.-- [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px]] Chieftain  Alex  16:35, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Needs at least one BiP
The large HP bosses could wipe you out if all your necros have no more Energy. --173.66.203.20 03:26, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Then you kill sth that doesn't have 4k hp to restore energy inbetween? ofc you shouldn't use it for gate of abbadon/shiro, but thats it. Falrach 08:19, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
 * in alittle nicer way, i would recommend running an alternative team if killing SUPER HIGH HP bosses I Luv Cheetos 23:45, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * This is ALOT better for SUPER HIGH HP bosses; and everything else. Archive:Team - 2 Man Necroway --96.240.34.47 01:48, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I have to agree, well atleast it looks nice, someone should update it and un-archive it because im sure it wouldn't be too bad. its like a 2 man sabway IMO I Luv Cheetos 02:23, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Team of 10
Last i checked most of the game doesn't have a team of 10 (3 players, 7 heroes) and unless you have mercenary slots you can't run a 1 player 7 necro team anyways so wouldn't 'Full Discordway' be pointless to the majority of the players? just my two cents there =) I Luv Cheetos 02:53, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The key phrase being "unless you have mercenary slots."  —ǥrɩɳsɧƴ ɖɩđđɭɘş  [[Image:Grinshpon blinky cake.gif|19px]] 15:47, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
 * ok but, who actually has merc slots AND 4-5 necro characters at level 20? Forbiddenbludge 23:23, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * If you have the Merc slots anyway, you could create a pvp nec, copy it, delete, create copy, delete etc until you have 4-5 necro mercs. done. -- [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px]] Chieftain  Alex  23:35, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * But do very many people have merc slots AND the necro heroes to run something like this? I Luv Cheetos 23:44, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Can someone explain to me why they changed the wording at the top of the build page? it made more sense before, and now it is suggesting that you can run that whole team with merc slots, but it is 9 heroes and a player. its just a bunch of discord builds thrown together so you can build your own team (unless im missing something where some of the builds are optionals to the others) I Luv Cheetos 02:37, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Diffrence?
whats the diffrence between this and two man discord way the builds are the same as are the suggestions for human players?
 * they ARE the EXACT same build! --96.240.34.47 17:19, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

You have way to little healing for this to work.

WTB deletion? this is same shit as twi man discord with a N/Me  and N/P optionals

Fail
More than 4 or so Discords is massive overkill. -- Jai . -  02:39, March 20 2011 (UTC)


 * I would say that one-man (with mercs) is overkill; two-man less so, because (assuming proper balancing of the two teams) you gain an ability to split very well, as well as splitting targets; much less danger of firing six Discords on one foe, if the humans are taking separate targets. In that case, I do believe the speed increase makes it a good deal more worthwhile. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.> .cнаt^  03:17, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

deletion?
why does this still exists? It is just a copie paste of 2-man discordway...89.51.238.64 10:25, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Imo just revert all edits back to the 2 man 6 hero builds - not many people have 7 necs anyway. -- [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px|link=User:Chieftain Alex]] Chieftain  Alex  10:45, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Use this?
I can't find the 7 hero Discordway build, so should I use this in replacement?--173.66.203.20 02:30, 8 April 2011 (UTC)


 * there never was a 7 hero discordway on pvx...someone changed it in 11 random discord bars a while ago and called it fulldiscordway, so i reverted it back. Just replace second player with a discord bar...the discord guide may help you, if you really want to buy 4 merc necro heroes.89.51.255.68 09:09, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Archive
Discord in general is somewhat dated. 7 hero builds are far more relevent, and converting this to 7 heroes would mean requiring 4 mercenary necro's. -- Jai . -  02:01, April 26 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree, why bother with something as inefficient as this when you can run a much better teambuild yourself. Imo the whole concept of 2-hero teambuilds can be trashed, except for The Deep and Urgoz maybe. Also who wrote these discord bars was on crack Vorpal 11:17, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
 * this is an excellent write-up, just a couple terribly theorycrafted builds. And this is still relevant as 2 players may prefer to use dual discordway. However I doubt this will ever be meta anymore now that pvx has listed all the other oped crap and revetting would get it trashed. This would be terrible in both urgoz and the deep. Given all that, I see no reason to keep it in the buildspace.-- Relyk 19:45, 21 May 2011 (UTC)