User talk:Minion

So I'm going to ban the other one now. -- Toraen   confer  01:42, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Cheers, man. Where would I be without my LOLBLACKLIST box. Can I not just copypasta everything from /excluded talkpages or is the redirect enough? ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 01:55, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Get anything you really need over here, but I'll probably do all of your userpage moves via the bot account if/when Phen does the merge. -- Toraen   confer  02:25, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Offtopic... but fix your image to point at your talk page. Chieftain  Alex  09:22, 3 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Couldn't be further from the truth, Alex. The topic of my talk page is me. Cheers. Also, I thought images weren't allowed redirects? ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 09:25, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Pretty sure theres no other way to have an item in your signature and direct it to your talk page, I spotted Dandy trying to add a redirect to your image.. but that doesn't work anymore on PvX. [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px|link=User:Chieftain Alex]] Chieftain   Alex  09:27, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Interesting. Now give me all your bones? Making consets to get rid of the tonnage of EoCs I've stacked up. Made and sold 20 last night; 11k each and they all went in 10~mins. Madness. that's wild profit when people give you the mats for free! Even when you buy them :p ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 09:30, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Hacked
Is it true? D: Vincent Evan [Air Henchman]   03:35, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes. I cry. On Christmas, too. Nice news to wake up to. Should be able to get it back+rollback, though I don't have any codes. ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 03:41, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * We may not see eye to eye on many things, but I do sincerely feel bad for you, Minion. Best of luck recovering what you can. Maybe I can help now and then. Care for like... 20 zkeys? Vincent Evan [Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 03:52, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Cheers for the offer, but I've already stolen my guild's pension fund, so I'm good for gold. Just need to cap a few elites for my heroes. ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 03:54, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Doh, alright. Best of luck, sir! Vincent Evan [Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 04:04, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Victory is mine! Sorry about your account though, shit blows D: rąʂKƴɖooƿɭɘş 21:41, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Anet owe me a beta code for gw2 imo. ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 21:43, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Hey Excluded/Minion, I feel really sorry about your hack mate. If you need anything, like money or materials let me know, I'm willing to donate! Vorpal  23:24, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * List of things I need: Flames of Balth. A fuck load of flames of balth. Shit, I missed Santa! My alter-ego is on holiday at the moment. ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 00:01, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You say your guilds pension fund. You mean my pension fund. if im gonna do a nice deed for Christmas I damn well want credit.HerpDerp 05:33, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Good deeds go unnoticed. I donated to comic relief, but I never get a name check. ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 05:45, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, you're not a continent of starving children where one donation is pretty much meaningless. I gave you 100% of that money and you aint even a continent.HerpDerp 05:49, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

FYI, I got my account back today... But it was not a pretty sight. I am 90k in debt because Phill is not that generous + I'm down about 1500k in stuff. ~  Ӎiñon  22:48, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The fuck? Got your account unlocked but not restored? D: [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px|link=User:Chieftain Alex]] Chieftain   Alex  00:19, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Interrogation time
Among the things stolen on my account included a VS and a Dhuum Soulreaper which was on my Dervish hero on my necro. Therefore, I can only presume that Someone on PvX who knows I use derv heroes on my necro who thought it fit to check would have done something like this. Either that or some Asian fuck had too much time on their hands... Either way /rollback will occur soon, hopefully. ~  Ӎiñon  22:56, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I thought they couldn't do rollbacks on individual accounts?  ~ PheNaxKian talk  00:57, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thankfully, since last Halloween they had the ability to do so. ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 01:00, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I've hacked quite a few accounts in my days and I always check heros for superior vigors. You're paranoid. rąʂKƴɖooƿɭɘş 01:48, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Rightly so now you've admitted to hacking accounts :o Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean I'm being plotted against! ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 01:51, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * If I were a hacker, I would check heroes. Why does this seem implausible to you? Anyway, keylogger or shoddy security (to be fair, keylogger falls under shoddy security as well)? Dzjudz sig.png talk 01:55, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't do anything stupid that would allow any viruses or keyloggers/spyware in... But I have now scanned and found nothing. I don't like using antiviruses because they just slow me down. If I get a virus, combofix will get rid. On the hero thing; you seriously think you'd check every hero on every character for runes after taking 1800k in essences and gold? That 16k or whatever they are now pales. ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 02:08, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Yo Rask remember when you were telling me about how you hacked Tom's account? Bait set  HerpDerp 02:13, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I would. Especially as I'd be checking each character for weapons anyway. :3 It's not like you'd be short of time to do it.
 * ps You're paranoid. PewPew   QQ   02:26, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Not paranoid enough apparently :). Dzjudz sig.png <font color="#47d1de">talk 02:58, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * So someone here is the culprit.. Tom I don't hope you use the same passwords on every site. If that were the case a PvX or Guru Mod, or someone else with access to your accounts, would be the most logical suspect. *awaits Torean's response* <font color="Black">Vorpal [[Image:Vorpal_Signature_1.jpg|19px]] 03:23, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I changed my passwords for everything after the backdoor hack on Kingdom of Loathing. Also, you constantly post about Markway and melee heroes on pvxwiki and guildguru, I'm guessing it's more likely someone from guru would hack you.--Christmas sig.jpg talk  05:05, 29 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Any gold selling site will probably have a script set up (or just a sweatshop of workers) to handle stripping characters and their heroes. Also, no one actually has access to user passwords wiki side. That would require backend access (not a single user on PvX has this - unless you count the Curse staff with accounts, and even most of them don't have direct access to it). Guru probably works the same way. -- Toraen   confer  08:14, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

If you had to have sex with 3 people from pvx
Who would you pick? rąʂKƴɖooƿɭɘş 11:51, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You, three times. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 15:33, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm horridly straight, and I only know two girls on here. Maybe Dandy would be my third or something. -- Jai' s Computer -  15:58, December 29 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll be gentle.. at start. -- DANDY ^_^ -- 22:42, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

The three people above me-- talk  16:02, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Who are the girls? Lau, Raine, Novii...? There are probably more, lurking. ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 19:00, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Aon and Lau. Those are the ones I know of. -- Jai' s Computer -  05:44, December 30 2011 (UTC)

Lau, Raine, and, eh, wild card.. Oskar. I'd obv. be high with him, so it could probably be quite enjoyable. Danny could be alright, at least I know he looks alright ;D is also a solid "we're high and horny"-game. -- DANDY ^_^ -- 22:42, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd do Danny, Phen and Dandy. I'm pretty sure lau isn't single and I'm not a home-wrecker ;o rąʂKƴɖooƿɭɘş 23:00, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem, I'm fine at messing things up for myself. Danny, Jake and hmm, Dandy (can't resist a poro, especially young ones!). - <font color="CornflowerBlue">Athrun <font color="CornflowerBlue">Feya [[Image:Athrun snow sig.gif]] 09:48, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd do myself. Though, obviously, I am already doing myself. --Brandnew 10:54, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * That's another possibility. Be the forever alone guy ;)  Shadow Enter 2012 12:31, 30 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Gotta catch 'em all -- DANDY ^_^ -- 22:21, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

From Generic healer
Hang on; if this tripe is allowed in as a "pug build" why was Rit lord party healer trashed? The only difference between this and rt lord is the hex removal. ~  Ӎiñon  07:31, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * stop beating a dead horse minion. Rant about it on your talk page. --Christmas sig.jpg talk  08:24, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * This is why we can't have nice things. rąʂKƴɖooƿɭɘş 08:50, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Because it's the only thing Monks can run in pugs. Rits have like 1028347 options, and monks have one (because smiting gets wasted in pugs). -- Jai' s Computer -  09:04, December 31 2011 (UTC)
 * Eh, since when was quantity of builds per profession something to take into account? This build is awful. The reason I was willing to concede the Rit was worse than the UA party healer was because it has prots; this doesn't. Double standards is obvious. ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 09:18, 31 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Minion, the problem here is your lack of grasp of what constitutes a good or bad build and the extent to which you will back-up your own builds despite gaping flaws. I actually just took the time to read through the Rit Lord healer PvX and guru and have a few comments to make. Please don't take these comments as an opportunity to essay me. Having read both sites, I believe you have already said anything useful that could be said, and a whole lot more too... So, here goes.


 * - It is interesting that you chose to kick and scream about double standards. Particularly interesting considering that the build you posted was essentially a variant of this which was already archived. Turns out, if you look through this build's edit history, the first version of the build was almost exactly the same as the one you posted but somewhere along the line was rectified by me and hosted for a while until archived for exactly the reasons we are still telling you right now. If people aren't being fair to you, it's not because they're here to inherently dislike you (as you somehow believe), it's because you've made them dislike you by so blindly defending everything you try to paste your name to.


 * - On the subject of double standards, I thought I'd mention that while your vote of 3.4 on a generic healer build is, of course, completely valid because "it has no prots". I'm struggling to believe that you immediately followed this up by ranting about how a a rit lord healer with absolutely no prots, and even less utility (hex removal, res and/or fast on-demand casting), is so great. And that how 1 group heal, 2 ~direct heals and a short burst of strong party regeneration (SoL) is somehow "too many" heals whereas as 1 group heal, 2 direct heals, and 2 continual party regeneration skills is, of course, perfectly acceptable.


 * - In regards to my previous point, I figured that something was making you believe that monks with UA should always and only have prot (and perhaps this belief caused the rating which you gave the generic healer bar). Yet many of the posts on guru are references to how poor your UA build is (the most well used pug monk build (for fowsc) hasn't a single prot). However, these warning signs were ignored completely and a "full" analysis was done of the healing ability of a Ritlord compared to your version of a UA monk which, I will mention now, has only 7 in Healing prayers. Not only this, but then feeling some sort of achievement when rit lord turns out higher. This is actually crazy, and I'm surprised none of the forever-scrutinizing guru community picked up on it. It's like asking someone which of two kittens is cuter when one is simply a dog with a cat mask. (At this point, I'll also throw in that if used wisely, almost no heal in the game is better than Seed of Life and that seems to have been omitted ).


 * The PvX community has tirelessly told you that you're wrong, that your statements are often ridiculous and ill-conceived and that while builds may "work" in pve of course they should do, it's pve. I speak not only for myself when I say I am fed up and that your behaviour really must change if you plan on continuing to actively contribute to this site. Instigating drama to the extent that you have is not something that has been ignored.


 * If you feel I've made any particularly unjust remarks, you can contact me on msn (AthrunFeya@gmail.com) and we will sort things out from there. Of course, if you choose to ignore this plea and follow up with a tl;dr, do not expect there to be no consequences. - <font color="CornflowerBlue">Athrun <font color="CornflowerBlue">Feya [[Image:Athrun snow sig.gif]] 11:41, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, and happy new year. - <font color="CornflowerBlue">Athrun <font color="CornflowerBlue">Feya [[Image:Athrun snow sig.gif]] 11:42, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * My issue was that a pure healer has always been bad in PvE since Hard Mode. If there's no mega damage mitigation elsewhere, a dual monk backline (which is the norm in pugs) needs some form of prots. I find it hard to believe that build was ever in Great, and I don't care that you call it generic healer because WoH Hybrid is also a healer but half the bar consists of prots that mitigate far more damage per energy than a single Heal Party. Oh, and it has Seed of Life still, so that skill is moot. That being said; supposedly your generic healer build is run alongside a prot character? A WoH Hybrid, most likely, or Burst. It was only a side point, though, I'm not trying to defend the Rit Lord (it's been deleted once/archived once) but yeah, it's still doubly standardy. Both builds were measured heavily on energy management also. The generic healer, as it is on the page, would have failed immensely, with only 3 regen and spamming a 15e spell. There was obvious bias towards my build, of course.


 * Prots are important in PvE, especially when you have no tank. It's not the job of the warrior to take defy pain to survive; they take as much damage as possible to make things dead and stop hurting you. SCs are a different story. How many 7H teams rely on ST or PS to tank? All of them.


 * Out of all the new years, this will be one. ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 18:39, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You didn't address lau's first or second point and went off on a rant on why you should use WoH Hybrid instead of Generic Healer.--Christmas sig.jpg talk  20:50, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Now that was funny--Silven Shadow 00:35, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * After reading this again, I have to apologise. I had no idea you were talking about how amazing UA and heals were in Speed Clears. I agree with you. Because that's surely where your knowledge of PvE ends; Big balls of foes, centred around a tank. Patient sucks in general PvE; it's too slow to react and so is Heal Party. This is why a full heal bar is bad; not to mention you don't have enough time to use all those heals without one already having recharged. ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 01:26, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * "the most well used pug monk build (for fowsc) hasn't a single prot" UA's in FoW are some of the worst healers in the game and that bar would be more effective with SoA and maybe Spirit Bond. Not like it would matter though. They would still just use Heal Party to heal 20 damage on one guy. Probably not a good idea using them as proof pure heal UA is great. HerpDerp 01:42, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Again this build is GENERIC, it's used in PuG and Balanced Guild Teams for PvE, and yes it does put out. First off, in speed clears you don't generally need prots on monks because it's a speed clear, you shouldn't be dying because you generally have tanking skills (not to mention faster killing), so no, prots would not improve the current UA builds. In, Balanced and PuG, PvE prots are always really good, which means having a prot monk aswell as a healer is ideal. Not having a single hybrid, because of course you will not be nearly as effective as you would specializing. I think the biggest problem here is that most people just don't know how to monk because I've personally done everything in the game as a Monk and have had no trouble with anything. If you can see where damage is going to pop up you can precast patient, so no there's no problem with that and dwayna's is super strong 1/2-1s cast. Managing energy is just something you have to learn, you don't need skills for it (besides HP) just brains, eg. don't spam shit, don't use the wrong spells, use 40/40 sets. With a decent prot, there's been no place in the entire game where I've had to spam the crap out of heal party, to the point that I use /Me for Auspicious Incantation with the recharge time. Chucking prots on a healer just means you have less time/energy to heal, because you're not going to be stocking up on 5e prots in PvE. And this is Guild Wars, damage mitagation =/= to just prots, offensive skills, positioning can mitigate way more damage than any prot, which some people still don't understand after IDK how many years in this game. None of your claims make any sense and it seems more like you're just annoyed over getting a build trashed. --Silven Shadow 04:23, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Bitch, please. I let that build to rest long ago after realising it was subpar. ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 05:34, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I like how you make it sound like it didn't take like 20 walls of text to make you "realize" that. -- Jai' s Computer -  05:36, January 2 2012 (UTC)
 * I "realised" it after reviewing unbiased facts/scenarios. ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 05:41, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * /facepalm -- Jai' s Computer -  06:15, January 2 2012 (UTC)
 * You took a single example lau provided to support her point and expanded on it as your entire argument.-- Relyk 07:40, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Her other points were silly. I took this as the most serious one that I could actually respond to. ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 07:55, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Why did you feel the need to respond at all? Also, dismissing an opponents points as "silly" isn't a very effective technique to convince people of their wrongness. Good luck with that though. A new misery  11:51, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Not respond? Crazy talk. But thanks for agreeing she's wrong. ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 11:54, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * He never agreed that she was wrong... <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  11:57, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi Minion, I asked you to MSN me if you had any problems, not essay me with useless bullshit. Now, if you do have a problem over the next few months you now have no choice but to contact me using this method. Your friendly pvx admin - <font color="CornflowerBlue">Athrun <font color="CornflowerBlue">Feya  22:53, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 22:54, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * So everything was cool as long as he never responed to you on PvX and because he did he gets a 3 month ban? Someones time of the month? HerpDerp 18:37, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * no? - <font color="CornflowerBlue">Athrun <font color="CornflowerBlue">Feya [[Image:Athrun snow sig.gif]] 19:08, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Everything was cool if he knew when he had lost the game. And he just didn't knew.  Shadow The Mayans are wrong! 19:20, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah he doesn't knew at all. Should have dropped the wrench before lau dropped her hammer. rąʂKƴɖooƿɭɘş 00:46, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Happy 2012
Best wishes mate! <font color="Black">Vorpal  15:33, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Indeed; see you at the other end! ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 19:58, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm going to pee on you both. rąʂKƴɖooƿɭɘş 20:40, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Relevant. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 05:01, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Vincent, you just won my heart. rąʂKƴɖooƿɭɘş 00:26, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I love Chappelle. Everything of his is genius. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 01:21, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Drip drip drip I agree. rąʂKƴɖooƿɭɘş 01:33, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Ssssss on you! Ssssss on you! <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 01:38, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Ssssss on you! Ssssss on you! <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 01:38, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Zzz
So I heard anet was throwing a welcome back party or some shit? <font face="Constantia" color=SlateGray >Cɥıǝɟʇɐıu Alǝx 20:10, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You really should reinstall, if only for the hound. [[Image:They.jpg|36px|link=User:They]] 20:22, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, this is my party. Have a crate of fireworks between you all! ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 20:30, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I will start the timer. How long will it take for drama to appear and how long until the ban --  Sh @ dow / /  Haze  20:35, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * There won't be enough sand to count the days. Anyway; time to finish grinding these Unlucky/Lucky/Survivor titles. ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 20:47, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sure you'll be bestest of friends with Soi. -- Jai .  -  20:58, April 25 2012 (UTC)
 * Was waiting for someone to drag soi into this. LET THE FESTIVITIES BEGIN! Welcome back minion![[Image:They.jpg|36px|link=User:They]] 21:14, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Ectos
Got 3 more stacks after I gave you one (lol). 00:20, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Now I can get leg skillcap lazyway! I think Pirate can get you down to two stacks ^^ ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 00:25, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Lmao, I make ectos faster than I give them away, true story. [[Image:They.jpg|36px|link=User:They]] 00:31, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Images
Yo, max image height is 19px. Use the following provided code to resize the image to height=19px! ~  Ӎiñon  Appearance of: ~  Ӎiñon 

-- <font face="Constantia" color=SlateGray >Cɥıǝɟʇɐıu Alǝx 09:48, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * i herd Rask's image is 35px >: ( Ӎiñon Minion_Watching_Jew.jpeg 13:27, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * 35px wide, but 19 high. (you've got to put the x in front of the number to make it 19px high btw, just "|19px|" makes it 19 wide - you want "|x19px|". <font face="Constantia" color=SlateGray >Cɥıǝɟʇɐıu Alǝx  13:42, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Mk. ~  Ӎiñon Minion_Watching_Jew.jpeg 13:55, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

About that Underworld run
It just shows me dislike for your attire --  PermaSwag    08:12, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Well basically you're less than a nobody perma, so it doesn't matter. <font face="Constantia" color=#D2691E>Cɥıǝɟʇɐıu Alǝx  11:53, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Got a shitty Spanish monk after you left and I had to save the day. Day was lost when every melee was bodyblocked by vengefuls without a shadowstep QQ. ~  Ӎiñon Minion_Watching_Jew.jpeg 20:41, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

You remind me way, way too much of Juze.
Have a shitty day. -- Jai .  -  11:47, May 17 2012 (UTC)

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From Build talk:E/A Assassin's Promise

Don't bring offsite BS on here. We don't care if he said that on Steam/Skype/Facebook/whatever crap people use to talk to others. We won't except it as valid evidence of anything, not to mention it makes you look like a giant dick. <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  12:39, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Slightly offtopic, I'm a giant dick too but I keep that shit on pvx, minion. I start work in an hour so peace. [[Image:They.jpg|36px|link=User:They]] 12:52, 17 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Does he really need evidence to prove that 0-0-0 is blatant vote balancing? <font face="Constantia" color=#D2691E>Cɥıǝɟʇɐıu Alǝx  13:43, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * No, but that wasn't the issue here, my issue was he was taking a conversation held off PvX and brought it onto PvX. Which we have never excepted for the precise reason That I could say to Toraen "That <Insert username here> is a real douchebag and does nothing but whine and cause work for us". If he then went and posted a screenshot of that, it would then be expected that some other admin should ban me for breaking NPA (a wiki based policy). But, why should I be banned for saying something, off wiki, without that user even being aware I said that?
 * That example's a bit abstracted from this situation, but I think it illustrates my point as to why that screen was a dick move, and why we don't consider it fair evidence. That's not to say he wasn't vote balancing, but just that conversation is irrelevant as far as an admin is concerned. <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian  <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  17:17, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Even if jai knew it would be screenied? <font face="Constantia" color=#D2691E>Cɥıǝɟʇɐıu Alǝx  17:35, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Even if he knew. <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  17:57, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I only know Jai from PvX. I was discussing the build with him and was actually getting somewhere to explaining why Searing Flames was bad in comparison to AP and EA fire (for heroes). I've seen a lot worse of posting off-wiki, but it's usually out of humour (Relyk's first and last conversation with danny, for example and Rask's shoe balancing trick). None of the admins were having ig that Jai was votebalancing, even though it was blatantly obvious (especially when I fired the discussion again and everyone started lowering votes in response). In that respect, I felt what I did was justified. I certainly would not post NPA of any kind because I don't care about NPA and NPA doesn't help. Someone's opinion differing from a vote matters. ~  Ӎiñon Minion_Watching_Jew.jpeg 18:35, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * No, what you did was not justified. Frosty had handled it and people revoted, as they're allowed to. As far as admins were concerned that was the end of it. The users then went back and lowered their votes. Now, alerting the admins to this is fine, however you decided that wasn't enough, that you had to publicly show up Jai, by posting a conversation he held with you in private, and I've yet to see has actually said it's OK for you to post said conversation. <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  20:19, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I didn't ask his permission. What Alex meant was "expect everything you say to be taken into account, wherever you say it." It's a PvX argument, therefore I see no reason treating it any differently. I don't think the format matters, and I would post the whole thing, I don't care. The point is, that bit matters. Something different about your scenario with Toraen and this real instance; votebalancing is serious but bitching about someone then sharing that bitching does nothing. Also, you have to look at the chronology of all this; I posted on the AN before the votewipe. If you mean the first time Frosty removed votes, the 0-0's just became 1-1's so really, no one took his warning into account. This is why I posted the quote from Jai. ~  Ӎiñon Minion_Watching_Jew.jpeg 20:46, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Even if Rask said it was fine to post our own discussion of the AP Ele, it's taken out of context and irrelevant to discussion that has already taken place. Admins don't hold users accountable for what they say off the wiki, as it's in confidence. Whether you're aware of that or not, it's a consideration when you post on the admin noticeboard. The fact you used defamatory remarks to attack Jai's position from a conversation outside of the wiki should be a red flag. I understand that you want to "blow a whistle" on the issue, but simply stating that the votes were vote balancing would've been more effective.-- Relyk 23:09, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I see your point. I won't be doing it again, but just to point out it wasn't intended to appear as an attack against Jai, merely "proof" if proof be needed. ~  Ӎiñon Minion_Watching_Jew.jpeg 23:31, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Checkuser
Hey soi/minion, you do know that socking is against the rules right? It also doesn't help that you evaded your original ban with soi sticker. Putting all of that aside, everyone I have contact with assumed you were both at the same time. pooned boob 00:24, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * You and Jai still butthurt? Go find one of those forms and come back to me. Already told Jai. Dun b paranoid. ~  Ӎiñon Minion_Watching_Jew.jpeg 01:02, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * You don't seem to understand, Big, one of our administrators, checkusered you. Your cover is blown dood. [[Image:They.jpg|36px|link=User:They]] 01:17, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * How much did you pay him in gilworz gold to checkuser him? You're like the mafia, but powerless. ~<font face="Calibri" color=black>Soi_ɹәʞɔ!ʇs 01:21, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify; we are not the same person. ~<font face="Calibri" color=black>Soi_ɹәʞɔ!ʇs 01:23, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * As an aside, Big having checkuser is pretty surprising. -- Jai .  -  01:27, May 18 2012 (UTC)
 * I've had Checkuser before most of the other current admins did. Big so strong. And yeah, 4 out of your last 5 IPs matched. Explain. -- <font color="#342EFF">Big <font color="#00008B">McStrongfist  01:38, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Can I email you, Big? For personal reasons. ~  Ӎiñon Minion_Watching_Jew.jpeg 01:50, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah you can -- <font color="#342EFF">Big <font color="#00008B">McStrongfist  09:36, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Protip, I suck dick twelve times better than you, so I hope you have some cash to pay him off. [[Image:They.jpg|36px|link=User:They]] 02:00, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't need to pay anyone off. ~  Ӎiñon Minion_Watching_Jew.jpeg 02:04, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * But I do? [[Image:They.jpg|36px|link=User:They]] 02:07, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I am subtle like a cheetah. [[Image:They.jpg|36px|link=User:They]] 04:21, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Now I don't know what you e-mailed Big, so you may want to enlight myself and the other admins via e-mail, or if that e-mail wasn't related to this in anyway, actually explain the matching IPs. <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  15:04, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

god damn
ninja minion. I hate you.-- Relyk 09:18, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Trollbait less
and his point was that even a shitty E/A dagger build outdoes your retarded AP build. Suck mad dicks yo. 01:39, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * nou. also lol you're wrong. ~  Ӎiñon Minion_Watching_Jew.jpeg 03:03, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

bitch
plz -- DANDY ^_^ -- 22:50, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Soup? ~  Ӎiñon Minion_Watching_Jew.jpeg 22:52, 19 May 2012 (UTC)


 * That's actually a Finnish expression for having some alcohol, and yes, I can confirm that I am drunk, as of right now lying in bed next to my even more drunk friend. -- DANDY ^_^ -- 01:41, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Dandy you drunk finnfuck, you damn well know that Minion is banned. D: Pathologically speaking, Minion is probably getting off on you replying to him while he is blocked, or in the midst of making another sock; you don't care though I bet. In fact, your drunkardness is probably bringing out a darker side, or at the least a more ungivingafuck side, within you, and I like that berry much! <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 01:56, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Minion came back
In case youll be back in the next century, I wrote a little song for you. I suggest watching the original before.

Old admin Athrun had problems of his own.

She had a banned Minion that wouldnt leave is home

She banned and she banned and she banned Minion again

She banned him again for so many days...

But Minion came back with a different name

Minion came back, we're sure he is a socker

But Minion came back, he just couldnt stay away.

Give me a ban, go. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

So our admin Frosty swore he'd kill Minion on sight

He loaded up his banhammer with fails and dramamite

He banned him and he banned him everytime he came around.

57 IPs of Minion, is all that he found...

But Minion came back with a different name

Minion came back, we're sure he is a socker

But Minion came back, he just couldnt stay away.

Give me a ban, go. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

So his army of socks was just going to bloom

He had an army of socks as big as the Moon

But Athrun came up and he banned him again

But this time the ban is forever... Ok...

But you know! Minion came back with a different name

Minion came back, we're sure he is a socker

But Minion came back, he just couldnt stay away.

Give me a ban, go. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

So he created a new account very very fast

He pissed off even who of patience has the best.

Ok I must admit it was an epic fail.

Not a comment was left behind to tell the awesome tale...

But Minion came back with a different name

Minion came back, we're sure he is a socker

But Minion came back, he just couldnt stay away.

Give me a ban, go. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

What is funny is that he screwed him on his own.

They banned every IP till he stood up alone.

Now you may come again if you dont stay around.

Stay away for a while, till a good behavior you have found.

And Minion isnt back with a different name

Minion isnt back, he got his IPs banned

And Minion isnt back, he just should wait and pray.

Give me a ban, go. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

Sing it all again!

And Minion isnt back with a different name

Minion isnt back, he got his IPs banned

And Minion isnt back, he just should wait and pray.

Give me a ban, go. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

Louder ban! BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN.

LOUDER! BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!

A little quieter ban. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

Quieter ban. <font color="grey" size="2px">Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

Quieter ban... Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

Shhh quieter... Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by Silent (talk) at 15:13, 1 June 2012‎ (UTC).
 * tl;dr You missed out the bit where he didn't give a shit about being banned and continuously posted anyway. <font face="Constantia" color=#D2691E>Cɥıǝɟʇɐıu Alǝx  15:55, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Why is it that every time you post about minion, it's to defend him?-- Relyk 19:53, 1 June 2012 (UTC)