Archive talk:Me/E GoE Denial

wtf is glyph of essence for...--Aesthetic
 * i second that Edwina Elbert  [[Image:Sandstorm.jpg|20px]] 00:08, 9 September 2007 (CEST)
 * instant cast Diversion or Shame Sneaky Take a Bow 00:15, 9 September 2007 (CEST)
 * u do realise u kill all ur energy with GoE, dont u ? Edwina Elbert  [[Image:Sandstorm.jpg|20px]] 00:17, 9 September 2007 (CEST)
 * ofc i do, it takes like 2 secs to get 5 energy back to use power drain or get energy back from using shame to use drain enchant Sneaky Take a Bow 00:23, 9 September 2007 (CEST)
 * still, you're using GoE on a 2 sec cast ... let's be serious ... Edwina Elbert  [[Image:Sandstorm.jpg|20px]] 00:25, 9 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Weapon swaps. Tycn 04:06, 9 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Why bother weapon swapping when the gain from the skill necessitating is almost nonexistent? Just stop using the worthless skill that's making you lose all energy(GoEssence). --Edru viransu //QQ about me /sysop 21:35, 9 September 2007 (CEST)
 * PBlock is your instacast diversion, tbh. Pleak would be a fine instacast Shame, too. --Edru viransu //QQ about me /sysop 00:29, 9 September 2007 (CEST)

Get rdi of GoE then perhaps the build wouldn't fail so much. It's jsut such an unnessacry hinderance to yourself!--Drowning Pigeon 21:26, 9 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Again, weapon swaps. Tycn 09:35, 10 September 2007 (CEST)
 * I understand weapon swapping to counteract losing all energy for a powerful effect or to hide energy from energy denial(or swapping to a low set before death), but you'd be better off not using glyph of essence at all and just sitting in your 40/40 set instead. --Edru viransu //QQ about me /sysop 14:11, 10 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Me too. I don't like 40/40 weapons except when facing interrupts though, they tend to throw off my timing. Tycn 14:39, 10 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Weapon swapping is unnecessary in a build like this. I can understand what you are trying to do, but at a sacrifice of 2 seconds on signet of humility and 4 energy from power drain, you can have a slightly faster diversion, as well as more e-management. Switch GoE for GoLE. But I also favor energy over health... 525hp/58e mesmers, but only for gvg. I have faith in our monks.Mcsneaksneak 19:55, 15 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Your monks aren't going to save you from pre-nerf ritspike no matter how good they are, unless you've got multiple copies of SB. --Edru viransu //QQ about me /sysop 19:49, 15 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Who ritspikes in gvg?Mcsneaksneak 19:55, 15 September 2007 (CEST)
 * No one. Pre-nerf, a lot of people farmed the ladder with it. In fact, the finals of the May monthlies was ritspike versus paraway. --Edru viransu //QQ about me /sysop 20:09, 15 September 2007 (CEST)

This needs a Usage section. --Kyrax 07:49, 10 September 2007 (CEST)

Archive:Me/Mo MoR Domination Mesmer, Archive:Me/E GoR Domination Mesmer, Archive:Me/Rt E-Surge Domination Mesmer, GO. –Ichigo724 16:42, 10 September 2007 (CEST)

PB > Insta Diversion. Nuff said.

Hai guise, check this out.
Fabio from kF ran goe diversion, and he's arguably one of the best mesmers in the game. - Auron 00:36, 15 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Average Joe wiki user isn't, sadly. Skakid9090 00:37, 15 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Hai guise, check this out. iQ, arguably one of the best guilds in the game, ran a backline consisting of a release enchantments boonprot and a healing light healer. In serious play. In the finals of the GWFC. Against WM. Also, Soul Wedding, arguably one of the best monks in the game at times, has ran such builds as Glimmer of Light monks and Scribe's Insight boonprots. --Edru viransu //QQ about me /sysop 02:17, 15 September 2007 (CEST)
 * No reason not to document this imo. Divert LoD the rest is cake. - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] Krowman   01:39, 17 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Pblock LoD, imo. --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me /sysop 01:47, 17 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Bblock should be used on the prot monk's dismiss or RC imo. Of course, most people aren't good enough to get dismiss or RC.  I honestly only played against one mesmer who was really good at getting those, and Deviant Khan isn't human.  But getting the prot monk's aegis works just as well, and is conveniently easy.  That shuts down every one of his skills except for gift and veil, basically.  If you just want to get lod, just take power lock or divert it.  Who cares if it doesn't also get dwayna's kiss?  Pluto 05:40, 18 September 2007 (CEST)
 * LoD is a healing monk's only truly excellent skill, so PBlocking it is not as beneficial as disabling the prot, like Pluto said. It is very powerful, so you still want it to get disabled, that's why instant-Diversion is win for it. - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   19:56, 18 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Yeah, the only other important benefit of pblocking an LoD is to shutdown their infuse. Pblocking the SoD is better, although honestly, why not just Leak him or diversion him normally? This build would deserve at least a 4 rating even if GoE was just an empty slot, though. --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me /sysop 22:52, 18 September 2007 (CEST)
 * True, true. - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   22:58, 18 September 2007 (CEST)
 * As that was a bit ambiguous, I feel I should clarify that I was suggesting Pleaking or normally diversioning the LoD and PBlocking the SoD. --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me /sysop 23:13, 18 September 2007 (CEST)
 * wow get a life you nerds

Variations
Ether sig anyone? Redo 12:22, 20 November 2007 (CET)
 * No. - [[Image:Unexist sig.jpg|20px]]<font color="Black">Unexist  14:29, 19 January 2008 (EST)
 * Epic Close Impact   talk  15:42, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
 * ? --  Super Igor   *ninja!!*  15:44, 31 May 2008 (EDT)

Archive
Let's archive this? No point in running GoE anymore since LoD nerf. - <font color="Black">Unexist  13:32, 24 January 2008 (EST)
 * [dR] ran a Glyph of Energy/Essence mesmer build. It totally raped the other team's monks. Smooths 01:50, 17 February 2008 (EST)
 * This isn't really much different than a regular Pblock mes with a few variants. Moush 19:58, 24 March 2008 (EDT)
 * However, it's not needed. Getting the WoH makes your pressure own hard, but it's not as matchbreaking as LoD(they still have patient spirit). —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  07:54, 16 August 2008 (EDT)