Build talk:D/any PvP Avatar of Grenth

Needs more the meta build in RA, ok if i change it to the meta RA build?, with the same elite ofcourse. --Lukky SjoerD 18:46, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * No. What bad people run in RA does not reflect what build should be posted. Idiot 18:47, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The GvG/HA build version will always take presidence over the RA version. Also this is crazy. Frostels 23:08, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm seeing two version of AoG dervs popping up now, the first one is this focusing on mass condition pressure, the second one is this:

This version focuses on more damage and life steal. I think it's worthy of a different build but not entirely sure what to name each one. Frostels 10:43, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * split spike/pressure would be enough-- Relyk  talk  10:45, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, looking back it's only 2 skill difference, could just make 2 optionals and note their uses, yeah i'll do that. Frostels 10:49, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Windwalker?
With 2 enchantments on the bar, one of which is a teardown? Seems like Blessed would work better. 76.250.38.1 21:10, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I was thinking the same thing. Ajsnuker 21:21, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Why Rending Aura....?
Instead of like Balth's Rage or Whirling Charge for more condition spam (since Aura Slicer already has cracked armor). If the recharge is all that matters, then Whirling Charge seems like a better combo with Aura Slicer.

Sorry, I just got back into town and I'm still catching up with the dervish changes. Karate  Jesus  22:41, 20 February 2011  (UTC)
 * Oh, well Rending Aura was originally on it cuz its amazing, but Frosty really liked Aura Slicer. Balths Rage would be better with it, but no one actually runs AS. Idiot 00:36, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * It's all about the recharge and AoE cracked armor. Whirling Charge doesn't really work cause if you use it with Wearying, it will tear down the enchantment and you won't get the effect. Frostels 07:22, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm reopening this. Rending Aura is never, ever run in my experience. Ever. Put it in variants, but it shouldn't be in main bar. I've only seen Grenth's Aura and Mystic Corruption.  —ǥrɩɳsɧƴ ɖɩđđɭɘş   15:23, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Call me biased if you want, but I'm still completely mystified as to why people run Grenth's Aura at all. I'm not buying the selfhealing argument, especially when you want to be stripping it most of the time anyway. --Lemming 10:05, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, we only document what people run, not if it's good or not. If the meta for monks tomorrow was Crystal Wave, we'd still have to put it down. The only reason I can see it being run is to hurt a prot monk's RoF or sheath or something or by making damage go under the spirit bond limit (useful in tombs, I suppose).  —ǥrɩɳsɧƴ ɖɩđđɭɘş  [[Image:Grinshpon blinky cake.gif|19px]] 12:08, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I wasn't arguing that it shouldn't be listed. I was just looking for answers. --Lemming 18:59, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * it is actually pretty awesome lemming. you ignore all prots (aside from shielding), and can easily split/farm NPCs. It would easily be the best flash enchantment if Harrier's wasn't so good. Also, wearying charges at about the same rate of GA, meaning it is maintainable. Readem 19:27, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Grenth's is a quick to recharge as most other flash enchantments so it's great teardown fuel, makes you steal health so you ignore most defences and get healed, and it steals a little when it's cast, too. 86.23.65.151 21:59, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Interrupt version
Is actually pretty good, run wearying, lyssas assault & lyssas haste. Hit guardian and soa for pain train 86.130.5.140 23:56, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I concur with this. 141.165.227.54 18:28, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

CM tag
I literally walked through every gate in FA to Gunther. We rolled without being stopped and nothing stood to this. The tag should be applied here. 141.165.177.90 17:22, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

crippling victory blows dick 209.189.130.127 19:36, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Then change it to crippling sweep, more people use sweep anyway. Kelvo 23:50, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

ra meta
run as often as AoB in ra.Illoyon 10:26, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Why not fleeting stability and pious fury over harriers haste and heart of fury. Heart of fury was nerfed a while ago.
 * Fleeting Stability is in Earth Prayers. [[Image:AsuraSignature.jpg|15px]] Anvil God  zzz... 18:03, 30 June 2011 (UTC)