Archive talk:Rt/A Hidden Caltrops Ritualist

Screw discussion, eh? XD ــмıкε  нaшк  12:19, 12 August 2008 (EDT)

This is the best flagger in the game at the moment. Discuss that. :) Zuranthium 18:04, 16 August 2008 (EDT)
 * It was pretty obvious that Hidden Caltrops would become popular, it's like an unlinked Freezing Gust but makes them move 50% slower instead of 66%. =P ــмıкε  нaшк  18:20, 16 August 2008 (EDT)
 * cripple slows 66% no? Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 13:56, 17 August 2008 (EDT)
 * No it's 50 lol. -- Frosty  14:09, 17 August 2008 (EDT)
 * No, it's 50 alright. Brandnew.  14:10, 17 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Lol. i've never looked it up tbh Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 14:17, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

I've been wondering why empathic rits haven't become just as popular to counter this. It seems like it would exactly counter the caltrops and then be added defense at the stand instead of added offense. Or is it just that a snare is more valuable as offense and defense than just con/hex removal?ComfortOsprey 11:06, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Hidden Caltrops is in Assassin prof, with Dash, no IMS for a Rt/Mo -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 11:11, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Ah of course, thank you.ComfortOsprey 16:46, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

Why dont you use Mo/A? Just curious, don't GvG. But it seems liek it would be better bc veil/mending touch. --Thc 18:19, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * weapon spells > enchantments Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 15:25, 5 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Yup, and for channeled Strike, and spirits (Recup) and pwk :> -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 15:31, 5 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Because a monk runner doesn't have extremely good stand defense; a snare, the best partyhealing as a runner and split defense in one. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  15:11, 25 November 2008 (EST)

Nerf
Only way this is viable is if you got full resto and full shadow, but then it's a bit zzz cause ur a rit and show have teh channeling :> -- Frosty  19:14, 9 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Go to the Euro Bar, WoW and Weapon of Shadow. - Misery  Is  Friendly  [[image:Misery Dog obaby.gif|19px]] 19:30, 9 October 2008 (EDT)

Nerf
ــмıкε нaшк  19:15, 9 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Look above... -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 19:29, 9 October 2008 (EDT)


 * Agree whit fROsty, only possibly is to take down the Channeling and go Weapon of Shadow, go highah Deadly~.. Need atleast 6 to be perma (5sec snare 7sec cripple use a (33% mod might be possible?)) and its okai;P Still dont think id use it ;/ 89.191.25.44 04:29, 10 October 2008 (EDT)

at 6 spec it lasts its recharge if neither is removed. it costs the monks ten energy to remove and is effectively an unlinked cripshot. unless the meta proves me wrong, this is still amazingly good. stop being bad. --Dark0805 ( Rant /Contributions ) 08:26, 10 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Take like 8 or 10 shadow arts tbh, just drop channeled(nobudy runs that anyway; WoW and WoS makes your stand invincible). Then it's still the best flagger elite. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  10:12, 10 October 2008 (EDT)

Rt/W?
What about "YAA" > Hidden Caltrops and Sprint > Dash? 121.220.165.53 07:24, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
 * HC is much harder to remove the snare of. unless you use empathic Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 07:28, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
 * So I herd YAA was elite [[Image:Tai_Sig_Image.png|19px]]McTai  07:29, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Your point? -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 07:36, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Mending Touch kills "YAA!" on any Mo/E or E/Mo Flagger. It's a pain in the ass to get rid of Caltrops. --[[Image:GoD_Hammer_and_Sickle.jpg|19px]]  Guild  of   Deals   07:38, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
 * My point would be that HC is better and Dash is better, so that is why you use those two skills. - Misery  Is  Friendly  [[image:Misery Dog obaby.gif|19px]] 07:39, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Charge if you wanna go /w -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 07:40, 28 October 2008 (EDT)

Dash vs sprint. Dash is 3 sec. at +50%, and sprint is 8 seconds at +25%. So they're about the same. But if you trying 2 dodge for example BHA, Dash would be better because its full increase only takes 3 seconds.RandomthingT7 17:29, 29 October 2008 (EDT)
 * You totally missed the recharge and uptime, Dash gives a higher overall speed boost and you can afford to use it on recharge on a flagger. - Misery  Is  Friendly  [[image:Misery Dog obaby.gif|19px]] 17:56, 29 October 2008 (EDT)

Resiliant Weapon
Seeing this a lot over Weapon of Shadow. (71.82.120.38 00:53, 26 November 2008 (EST))

Build and Optional
There is many Ritualist flagrunning Builds what could be merged, but idea against those Dual stance and Aegis Monks. [build prof=Rt/A Dead=10 res=12+1+1 spa=8+1][Mark Of Insecurity][Weapon of Shadow][Soothing Memories][Wielder's Boon][Weapon of Warding][Protective Was Kaolai][Recuperation][Dash][/build] Loses snare, but lets say you got snare and enemy Don't do the Split : D I know it's a hex and i can be removed, but if the runner would hex the same target with Warriors maybe then its easier to kill : ]  ~Enarrrz.   hello.  17:06, 29 November 2008 (EST)
 * Too bad Mark of Insecurity sucks, and Hidden Caltrops is OP. --Ojamo  (>.<( O=(- -Q)  17:30, 29 November 2008 (EST)
 * Looks like MoI is now imba.  ~Enarrrz.   hello.  04:52, 14 December 2008 (EST)
 * might work now --Ojamo  (>.<( O=(- -Q)  12:19, 14 December 2008 (EST)
 * like crap it would work better than HC. hc requires usually a hex removal + condi removal. this requires just one of those, and doesn't actually snare them. But at stand i suppose it isn't too bad. but not the bestt Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 12:48, 14 December 2008 (EST)


 * MoI is also excellent, but for a different purpose. It's a completely different build, so post a new apge if you want.  —Ska Kid [[Image:Skakidasaur.gif|19px]] 12:48, 14 December 2008 (EST)
 * Alread has been made.  12:51, 14 December 2008 (EST)
 * meh. Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 12:51, 14 December 2008 (EST)
 * Archive:Rt/A MoI Runner  12:51, 14 December 2008 (EST)

Nerfed
Archive... ShureShot Masta Rangah! 00:31, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


 * yeah its useless now with the nerfGeneralmurgahn 00:33, 6 March 2009 (UTC)