User talk:Readem/Archive 1

Sig Testing
Test: Readem 01:04, 2 May 2007 (CEST) Test: Readem (talk *contribs ) 01:05, 2 May 2007 (CEST)

Woot, it works, yeah! Readem (talk *contribs ) 01:08, 2 May 2007 (CEST)

Here comes trouble. ;-) - Krowman  (talk • contribs) 07:21, 3 May 2007 (CEST)


 * Imao, shhh Multi-tasking! On Guild wiki too :D Readem (talk *contribs ) 07:25, 3 May 2007 (CEST)

(Insert relevant comment here) - Skakid9090 00:04, 8 May 2007 (CEST)


 * (Insert irrelevant and offtopic yet humorous response here) --[[Image:Rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   00:08, 8 May 2007 (CEST)

Gah, you guys are not getting the point Imao... Readem (talk *contribs ) 02:16, 8 May 2007 (CEST)


 * Relevant LOL. - Skakid9090 02:24, 8 May 2007 (CEST)
 * Sorry, I guess what I ask for is too much ;) lol... Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 02:27, 8 May 2007 (CEST)

Gonna lawl when Solus takes his rant against your irrelevance over to this wiki... - <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman  (talk • contribs) 07:29, 8 May 2007 (CEST)

It'll happen lol. *shrug* <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 07:30, 8 May 2007 (CEST)

SOLUS SMASH *BOOM* - <font color="Black">Skakid9090 23:38, 8 May 2007 (CEST)

Heh. This is Les Bos!!!! Anyway, mind if I steal that Userbox? Ni 06:22, 12 May 2007 (CEST)

You can burn it, blow it up, sell it on Ebay, I really don't care. Cuz whatever, I do what I want :p. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 08:34, 12 May 2007 (CEST)

Looks like we have a very observant user here :) -- Nova   --  (contribs) 21:37, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

Votes
lmao, I got 0. There is no way I can lose XD. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 19:27, 13 May 2007 (CEST)
 * Dang it, you beat me! I got 0 as well. --[[Image:Rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    21:49, 13 May 2007 (CEST)

Lottery
If you got 0 as your lottery ticket, please visit vote page again and re-vote. We are sorry for inconveniences. GCardinal 23:30, 13 May 2007 (CEST)
 * But now I have to give away personal info! I know your ways! You can't get me!!! <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 04:11, 14 May 2007 (CEST)

Newer New New Sig Testing
Newer New Test 1: <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 04:12, 14 May 2007 (CEST)
 * Yep, it works. --[[Image:Rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   04:22, 14 May 2007 (CEST)
 * Since people ignore it anyway, I am changing my sig back, w/ the exception of the pvx contribs part ;). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 02:53, 24 May 2007 (CEST)
 * What was the difference? ^_^   -- Nova  [[Image:Jirouji-Nova.jpg]] --  (contribs)
 * Exactly ;P. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 03:01, 24 May 2007 (CEST)
 * Oh oh I know! The testing one linked to GuildWiki while the current one is linking to PvX wiki user pages. Do I get to become a soviet spy for figuring that out? :P --  Nova  [[Image:Jirouji-Nova.jpg]] --  (contribs) 03:07, 24 May 2007 (CEST)
 * Nope, you do get a CooKie though ;). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 03:08, 24 May 2007 (CEST)
 * "In Soviet Russia, people spy spies!" :( -- Nova  [[Image:Jirouji-Nova.jpg]] --  (contribs) 03:15, 24 May 2007 (CEST)

What happened, Readem? Did some noob like screw up some elite mission or something? :( -- Nova   --  (contribs) 01:41, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

Worst. Met two Flare Spammer Tanks in RA...in a row...with no res... :) <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 01:44, 25 May 2007 (CEST)


 * Aww, poor Readem :P You know who I teamed with in RA once? Well, it was this random assassin. We won the first round but I realized he was kind of crappy, so I made him ping his build (which took forever for that noob to do). And what were the results? The 8 skill slots consisted of 4 lead attacks, 1 offhand, and 3 dual attacks, with no rez, no shadowstep, no self defense. Needless to say, the next round did not go well. ^_^ -- Nova  [[Image:Jirouji-Nova.jpg]] --  (contribs) 03:05, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

Monks
On, you claimed that Healing Breeze and Orison of Healing sucked too much to be on any monk bar. I have to ask how long you've been monking and if you've ever tried monking without a battery. Breeze alone is generally enough to keep a guy's health at the same level for those ten seconds, leaving you to spike-heal someone in the meantime, and Orison is just a strong, staple, cheap, and spammable heal. -- Armond Warblade 20:34, 17 May 2007 (CEST)


 * Copying from my user page (as you missed my talk :P)
 * Lolz, HB and OoH are some of the worst healing skills out there. If one was to caculate the health healed by HB and its energy cost, it is a HUGE waste. OoH is just horrible...Dwayna's kiss is better in every way. Oh and if you want to see my monk, he's on my G wiki Page. Here's the link: Readem <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 23:35, 17 May 2007 (CEST)


 * But Dwayna's Kiss can't target yourself, and Orison can. It's a waste of a skill that can't save yourself when you need it. As for Breeze, you get +9 regen, which is more than enough to counter most hexes and a bunch of conditions - even when there's two or three of either or both. And I can't look at your user page on guildwiki because my school uses a blocker. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 00:03, 18 May 2007 (CEST)

That's no problem. HB is 9 regen for 10 energy though. It is a complete waste of energy, and has been proven to be so. OoH may be able to heal yourself, but if a Monk needs a self heal then Touch is the way to go. I'll upload an image for you if necessary. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 00:10, 18 May 2007 (CEST)


 * Meh... I like my skill choices. You go with yours. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 02:39, 18 May 2007 (CEST)


 * Lol, ok. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 02:43, 18 May 2007 (CEST)


 * Don't bring Healing Breeze.... It's an energy-inefficient slow heal that gets you killed more often then it heals you due to all the enchantment shattering around.  Orison can be okay (though I prefer Words of Comfort and/or Dwayna's Kiss) but please leave Healing Breeze to the 55 monks. --[[Image:Rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    06:36, 18 May 2007 (CEST)


 * But in PvE there isn't that much enchantment shattering, and it's a great counter to the random degen you find... It heals just as much as a Heal Other, and let's be honest, do you want to wait ten seconds and throw Heal Other on a guy after he's had time to degen, when he's low on health and vulnerable to spikes? Skills are created for reasons. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 20:05, 21 May 2007 (CEST)

Healing breeze at 9 is 180 points of retro active healing, with a 20% enchantment extender it goes up to 198 points for 10 energy. The strength of Healing breeze is that you can cast it and then go focus on someone else who needs healing. In PVE I often pack healing breeze and healing seed and dump it on my tank, and I don't have to worry about them for 12 seconds and I can work on the rest of the party. With blessed aura it comes on par with Shield of Regen... Shireen 20:34, 21 May 2007 (CEST)


 * Exactly my thoughts. Now try it with 16 healing prayers, which I pack (as I'm a pure healer in PvE most of the time). -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 20:41, 21 May 2007 (CEST)
 * No doubt it is good for PvE, but in PvP... er.... no. -- Nova  [[Image:Jirouji-Nova.jpg]] --  (contribs) 20:43, 21 May 2007 (CEST)
 * I never made any claims that it was good in PvP. In fact, we owned a GvG HB wammo pretty fast, and a match or two later we owned a team with a monk with HB. Shatter Enchantment came in handy as I remember.
 * Any non-prot monk in pretty much any non-RA PvP with enchantments will cause his team to fail. Regen is handy, but enchant removal is just too popular. Prot enchants don't generally last long enough to be removed, though. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 20:48, 21 May 2007 (CEST)

Why doesn't Ethereal Light get any love huh. :( It's a GREAT spammable heal and it heals for a lot more than Dwayna's or crappy Orison and it can also be used as a self heal. Sure it gets interrupted sometimes but it's just a matter of getting used to and pairing it with healing touch for self heals not to mention HP or LoD can also be used as self heals. The first time I decided to replace orison from my WoH build's bar with Ethereal light turned out to be the best decision I ever made in my monking career. I'm never going back to Orison again...Just try it. -Mooo 21:02, 21 May 2007 (CEST)


 * I only use Light with Healer's Boon... Thus making it a quick, cheap spike heal. I do like Orison's recharge, though. If Glimmer were back to its one second recharge I'd be using it instead of WoH. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 22:32, 21 May 2007 (CEST)
 * Etheral Light gets tonnes of attention in Healer's Boon builds :) And plus, just visit my user page for a B/P build... the monk on it has ethereal and no orison :P -- Nova  [[Image:Jirouji-Nova.jpg]] --  (contribs) 00:11, 22 May 2007 (CEST)
 * Eh, Dwayna's is 1337. 700 point heals in DoA. EL is good tho, for an HB Monk that is. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 00:35, 22 May 2007 (CEST)

Sandbox
Can I ask why you are creating GuildWiki:sandbox:sandbox instead of using PvXwiki:Sandbox? --MasterPatricko 11:56, 18 May 2007 (CEST)
 * It was linked to from the s&f page. - Auron 13:34, 18 May 2007 (CEST)
 * I don't pay attention to such minor things as that :p. Guild wiki SB, PvX SB, I use both anywayz lol. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 15:39, 18 May 2007 (CEST)

Sysoption
Wanna be my guinea pig? o.O - <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman  (talk • contribs) 09:02, 19 May 2007 (CEST)


 * I have no idea what that means, but whatever lol. Sure. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 09:13, 19 May 2007 (CEST)
 * Guinea Pig = Scapegoat for testing. And thanks for agreeing with me on the vote thing :P I was thinking of starting an unofficial revote, but oh well. I think that if the real policy is not voted out in the best, most eligible way possible... We will just end up how GuildWiki did. -- Nova  [[Image:Jirouji-Nova.jpg]] --  (contribs) 13:43, 19 May 2007 (CEST)

UHSP?
- Auron 16:21, 21 May 2007 (CEST)
 * rofl. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 00:35, 22 May 2007 (CEST)
 * It's not working. --[[Image:Rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   04:29, 22 May 2007 (CEST)
 * Hmmm... an elitist skill with an elitist acronym. ;)  [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  04:32, 22 May 2007 (CEST)
 * It never does work. And why do I always get into edit conflicts O.o? <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 04:34, 22 May 2007 (CEST)
 * Because you are, as Skuld the Quick would say, "Too Slow!" [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  04:34, 22 May 2007 (CEST)
 * *Shrug* I am in no rush. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 04:38, 22 May 2007 (CEST)

IW guide
If you are doing an IW guide, I would like to help out. They are some of my favorite builds to run. So if you need something, just ask. Shireen 06:22, 24 May 2007 (CEST)

If you'd like, I can help get you started with a basic template. --Mgrinshpon (C/T) 01:16, 31 May 2007 (CEST)

Generic Res
From what I see, it seems they want to do away with generic res, just ftr. ‽ -(єronħ)   no   u  03:20, 25 May 2007 (CEST)
 * Why? <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 03:24, 25 May 2007 (CEST)
 * Dunno, sounds like theyéd rather have us actually put a real resurrect skill in. ‽  -(єronħ)   no   u  04:39, 25 May 2007 (CEST)
 * If you want to try coding it in, be my guest. Though I have to agree with Cardinal that it's not a skill, and it's just as easy to put in a res/sunspear sig and make a note that you can bring any type of res. Not too difficult and with the way PvXcode works it looks a lot better. (I abhor the blankness of the optional slot, too...) -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 16:55, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

SPIES!!!
You should definately add me. My parents were both born in the former Soviet Union (mother from Moscow, father from Leningrad). I speak russian as well. --Mgrinshpon (C/T) 04:30, 25 May 2007 (CEST)


 * That does seem like a good reason... my grandad was in the CIA... =P [[Image:User Frvwfr2 signature.jpg|User:Frvwfr2]] <font color=#6e8b3d>frvwfr2  (talk···contributions) 04:34, 25 May 2007 (CEST)
 * Dobro dosli &mdash;<font color=#d8be01>Sig <font color=#2a7510>mA 06:51, 25 June 2007 (EDT)
 * HAHA Bolje Vas Nasli :) --Iwan13 12:26, 7 August 2007 (CEST)

User Page
Ow. My eyes. - <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman    08:33, 26 May 2007 (CEST)

XD. My Guild Wiki one does the same thing :p. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 08:36, 26 May 2007 (CEST)

Well, if I had anything else to do...but of course I don't lol. Oh well. Guess, I'll just fix builds...um comment I dunno lol. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 08:56, 26 May 2007 (CEST)

Ugh... Could you, perhaps, change some colours? :) -- Nova   --  (contribs) 15:00, 26 May 2007 (CEST)


 * Yes! I have once again blinded users w/ my vibrant page ;P. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 19:13, 26 May 2007 (CEST)

MSN Messenger
Do you have an account? If so, would you mind getting online and messaging me at BTA258@hotmail.com? Thanks. *Defiant Elements*  +talk  06:38, 1 June 2007 (CEST)

Sure, was about to TA tho :p. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 06:45, 1 June 2007 (CEST)

It will just take a few minutes. *Defiant Elements*  +talk  06:47, 1 June 2007 (CEST)

Delete
grats on admin - <font color="Black">Skakid9090 23:32, 1 June 2007 (CEST)
 * hehe. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 23:32, 1 June 2007 (CEST)
 * gratz... -- Nova  [[Image:Jirouji-Nova.jpg]] --  (contribs) 01:01, 2 June 2007 (CEST)
 * >.> ty? <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 01:53, 2 June 2007 (CEST)

PvXwiki:Sign your comments‎
Is there a reason you deleted half the page, or can I go ahead and revert it back now? ‽ <font color=#C60000>-(єronħ)  no   u  00:24, 2 June 2007 (CEST)
 * rofl, accident. My comp lagged and I might have deleted it without noticing. This happened before w/ Frw before on Coloneh's Talk. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 01:40, 2 June 2007 (CEST)
 * Fixed now. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 01:42, 2 June 2007 (CEST)
 * That happened to me once, too... -- Nova  [[Image:Jirouji-Nova.jpg]] --  (contribs) 13:49, 2 June 2007 (CEST)

Shireen Sig
Sig Fixed <font face="arial" color="Green">Shireen sysop  02:15, 2 June 2007 (CEST)


 * coolz. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 02:29, 2 June 2007 (CEST)

Let up off of Safre, he needs time to cool. He has made it apparant that it's between him, Defiant, and GC. Let him cool down, and if need be, the conversation will most likely be taken off site. This is awefull public at the moment. <font face="arial" color="Green">Shireen sysop  05:34, 3 June 2007 (CEST)

Very well, I shall refrain unless harassed on my Talk page -_-... <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 05:41, 3 June 2007 (CEST)

Me/Mo Pacifist
Readem, your comments are very much appreciated... would you mind to look at the discussion for a little while? =) BaineTheBotter 08:17, 2 June 2007 (CEST)
 * Sure. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 08:36, 2 June 2007 (CEST)

Mass Builds Clean-up
Is there a reason that all of them are abroken links? I would love to help out in the assassin area (or at least start there,)  ‽ <font color=#C60000>-(єronħ)   no   u  21:20, 2 June 2007 (CEST)
 * Rather then have to write down every single Build again, this is from my Guild wiki archive. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 22:27, 2 June 2007 (CEST)
 * I'm still a little lost, are they supposed to link to the build namespace or something? ‽ <font color=#C60000>-(єronħ)   no   u  22:59, 2 June 2007 (CEST)
 * >.> ignore the links lol. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 23:14, 2 June 2007 (CEST)
 * Alright then, ‽ <font color=#C60000>-(єronħ)   no   u  23:29, 2 June 2007 (CEST)

Sefre
You have taken a personal grudge against me. I will ask you to stop making childish comments meant to undermine and confuse the issue I am trying to bring forward. I understand that you disagree with my issue but I am asking you to act the admin you now are and try to understand it before you try to "undermine" it as you said. I consider many of your actions personal attacks, I have nothing against you and wish we can come to a mature solution here.-- 05:39, 3 June 2007 (CEST)


 * Merely undermining you is by no means an attack. As I have said previously, you often make brash decisions and publicly disregard those who share different views from your own. I hold no grudges, not even against Solus who has made it quite clear that he is against everything I stand for. Oh, and by the way, you quite often undermine others. Actually, you are doing it at this very moment. What a surprising coincidence! <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 05:52, 3 June 2007 (CEST)
 * Here is the link, in case you don't know: <font color="Black">Readem  (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 05:54, 3 June 2007 (CEST)
 * I am pretty sure that is a personal attack, at least I feel like I am being targeted and put down without justice being done to what I was being put down for.
 * Whenever I have "undermined" others it was never because of that poster, but because of the action. I try to follow NPA to the word, I target actions, not users. You seem to be "undermining" me in a way that isn't related to my action. The post on admins on gcardianals page where you say "He knows new admins have been appointed. He was there." was meant to undermine my post without relating to the action itself.
 * Please either leave the issue alone or act constructively in it. I am trying to be mature here and end this issue with you. So please, stop. --[[Image:SefreSig.jpg|45px|Sefre]] 06:04, 3 June 2007 (CEST)
 * What you consider "Undermining", I consider stating the facts. What you call "attacking", I call word manipulation. Using things you have done in the past, and other comments made by you, against you, is in no way violating NPA. If you do not have an MSN, why not contact me IG? Ill be on in fifteen minutes or so, if you would like. Though this conversation is beginning to drag...not nearly as much fun as it was. And if you did not want to continue, why even respond ;)? <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 06:13, 3 June 2007 (CEST)
 * I could care less what you call it. I feel that you are attacking me and my comments without understanding then. If that is not against NPA it is still extremely rude and I expect better out of a admin. I will not respond further unless you wish to attack me or whatever you call it more.--[[Image:SefreSig.jpg|45px|Sefre]] 06:17, 3 June 2007 (CEST)
 * Very well ;). Glad we have come to some sort of understanding... <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 06:55, 3 June 2007 (CEST)

I will be discussing this with all of the users involved in the bickering, but, I am going to post here first. The discussion that began on the Administrators talk page has now spilled over onto 4 pages, and it is time that we stopped bickering and started actual discussion. To that effect, I would ask that you limit the scope of your comments to the PvX:Administrator talk page because spreading it out merely leads to greater exacerbation of the issue. Similarly, please make this a civil debate. If you have a point you would like to make, please limit the scope of your comments to a discussion of the pros and cons of a particular issue rather than being sidetracked by petty bickering, particularly between yourself and Sefre, and please focus on the issue. I have very carefully reviewed all of the evidence on all 4 pages, but, I have found no evidence of NPA violations by any party. As such, no one will be banned, or even warned by me for conduct, however, I strongly urge you to stick to the issue at hand before we have greater escalation. And, if at all possible, I would ask people to refrain from posting in any forum for at least a few days in order to prevent escalation. It you feel that you must post, please limit it to the discussion at hand and try to distance yourself from Sefre. Thank you. *Defiant Elements*  +talk  23:50, 3 June 2007 (CEST)
 * She/he started it *Points at Safre* jk :P. I really could care less. Just fun to debate about :). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 05:58, 5 June 2007 (CEST)
 * Just one more thing here, are you really saying that the only reason you were trying to screw up my questioning on the admin situation was for fun...? And if so may I ask why you targeted me then...?--[[Image:SefreSig.jpg|45px|Sefre]] 20:11, 5 June 2007 (CEST)
 * That, and the fact what you were arguing was both ridiculous and against my beliefs...other then that I have nothing against you. You would know if I did ;) <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 21:46, 5 June 2007 (CEST)
 * And they made this guy a admin *shakes head*.
 * I assumed it was against what you wanted, I was arguing against the method that you became a admin, thats pretty obvious.--[[Image:SefreSig.jpg|45px|Sefre]] 22:06, 5 June 2007 (CEST)
 * QQ Sefre. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 22:07, 5 June 2007 (CEST)

You've been asked to stop bickering. So stop. - <font color="Black">Skakid9090 22:08, 5 June 2007 (CEST)
 * I did...she/he's the one that keeps dragging it from the grave... <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 22:14, 5 June 2007 (CEST)
 * Actually now I am questioning your adminship(is that a word?). based on events from past comments and actions. I am beginning to doubt that a admin who chooses to harass someone for fun is a good one. You have stated that yourself in above comments.--[[Image:SefreSig.jpg|45px|Sefre]] 22:17, 5 June 2007 (CEST)
 * You two have BOTH been asked to stop. I was about to say that maybe I've not seen everything, but it looks like Readem's right, Sefre's been pulling this up again and again, and when I went to edit Sefre had already left his comment, which confirmed my thinking. Readem, I wasn't there when you were appointed a sysop, I don't know what qualifications they said you had, but I recommend you just don't respond to Sefre on this, at all. Sefre, you're crossing into NPA territory. Please, both of you, stop. I'm honestly starting to get bored of banning people, and I don't want to be the one to demote Readem if it comes to that. (I don't think it will come to either of those cases; I'm just stating the extremes.) Best situation would be if both of you (and everyone else on the wiki!) just left this section alone. I've "locked" it in those hopes. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 22:25, 5 June 2007 (CEST)
 * Argh, I don't know what I did wrong, but that locked the whole page. Just drop it, everyone. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 22:27, 5 June 2007 (CEST)
 * Ty for interjecting. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 22:33, 5 June 2007 (CEST)
 * >.>...I contribute a great deal to this wiki. More then many of the Users combined. If you would please READ I NEVER once said I did it just to harass you. You are not even worth my time or trouble to "Harass". You, in my views, are nothing but a minor annoyance, bringing up issues in the past and never letting go. Disrupting constantly, and just bothering others. You violate what admins have repeatedly asked you to, you harass me repeatedly on my Talk Page. So all I ask of you Sefre, is to stop harassing me, and start contributing in a more positive manner before this escalates to a degree it shouldn't. A word of advice Sefre, think silent thoughts, it isn't hard to do. I wish you my best regards, and am NEVER responding to any more comments by you, on this page.

<font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 22:40, 5 June 2007 (CEST)
 * Very well, good luck on your attempt to save your own behind, proof is in the history so I don't mind. Good day.--[[Image:SefreSig.jpg|45px|Sefre]] 22:43, 5 June 2007 (CEST)

Premades
Don't forget to take care of all the redirects from these builds you're moving. - <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman    07:46, 3 June 2007 (CEST)
 * ok, done. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 07:57, 3 June 2007 (CEST)

Do I need to fix my page links again? <font face="arial" color="Green">Shireen sysop  08:00, 3 June 2007 (CEST) Links Fixed. Names work fine. =) <font face="arial" color="Green">Shireen  sysop  08:08, 3 June 2007 (CEST)

Just cleaning up
Funny how you can make people read old build articles just by popping them up in the recent changes. A little disclaimer: I've nothing to do with the builds I just edited, I'm only cleaning up category tags and such stuff. So don't blame me if these builds suck ;-) --Hhhippo 14:17, 3 June 2007 (CEST)
 * Np, I have been up for 18 hours now, so it really doesn't bother me. Besides, was just checking for vandalism. Cuz you are always destroying stuff and w/e ;). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 14:21, 3 June 2007 (CEST)
 * Yea yea. I guess we could use a few more vandals of that type... --Hhhippo 14:35, 3 June 2007 (CEST)
 * "Skuld! get over here! We need some vandalism and some swash-buckling arguement!" (jk lolz) <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 14:39, 3 June 2007 (CEST)

Sleep
Been up 20 hours. Time to sleep for 4. Night guys. Wait it's morning... <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 15:46, 3 June 2007 (CEST)

Hmmm...
Care to give some details about your upcoming IW guide? |SpriteSODA
 * Sure, it will merely cover the basics of an IW Mesmer. Similar to that of the Barrage Guide. It will feature all current Tested IW as well. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 09:32, 5 June 2007 (CEST)

Block
User:Deepseeker Readem...why did you remove the ratings on my build for no reason?
 * Sockpuppetry looks like. Also, you should be signing your posts on talk pages with four tildes ( ~ ) at the end of your posts. To make your post easier to find, it helps to begin a new topic with a new header at the bottom of a page, not in the middle of someone else's post. - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   04:21, 31 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Yeah, people on the talk page were saying that it might be a sock. Also, looking through their contribs, they had nothing :/. Sorry m8. Also, finding this was especially difficult, as there are 2 "Block" titles on this page alone :P. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 04:26, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

User:69.222.55.224 keeps vandalizing the A/e farmer, block himm plz. - <font color="Black">Skakid9090 23:58, 5 June 2007 (CEST)
 * Done. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 00:36, 6 June 2007 (CEST)

Can't We All Get Along
I wrote something, and I hope you will read. CWAGA is a project started by me, and maintained by me today. Please share. Bluemilkman 19:16, 6 June 2007 (CEST)

Well done with the healing spike. I got you to think outside the box didn't I? <font face="arial" color="Green">Shireen  sysop  01:21, 8 June 2007 (CEST)


 * :/ I already had an Idea about how it was done. I was testing something about Life Bond as well. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 01:23, 8 June 2007 (CEST)


 * Do me a favor and crop that photo just for the number amounts. The whole exercise is for the new guys to see the page try and figure out how it was done.  Start making them think about skill interactions.  Hence the OSB=UF tag right next to it.  Get em thinking outside the box.  =) <font face="arial" color="Green">Shireen  sysop  01:50, 8 June 2007 (CEST)
 * Only 4 enchantments? Noob...  use some varient of this, with Mo/Rt.  For the skills that are still optional, just toss monk enchantments on there.  Should get ~ 15,000 health fairly easily. --[[Image:Rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    06:18, 8 June 2007 (CEST)


 * I had only heros. 3 to be exact. I had 16 enchants on me I think. I am sure I could get + 8-10k if I had more monks w/ me. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 07:37, 8 June 2007 (CEST)
 * Fixed link. --[[Image:Rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]   11:31, 8 June 2007 (CEST)

Delete?
- I thought we were holding off on build deltions untill the vetting system was up and running? <font face="arial" color="Green">Shireen sysop  01:58, 7 June 2007 (CEST)

Not for the absolute worst of Builds. Besides, one was a template. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 02:04, 7 June 2007 (CEST)


 * Difference between deleting via the lack of vetting policy and deleting via PvX:WELL, I assume. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 04:42, 7 June 2007 (CEST)

Soviet spy
I ain't one anymoar? &mdash;<font color=#d8be01>Sig <font color=#2a7510>mA 21:06, 10 June 2007 (CEST)

High five!
proper behavior FTW! - <font color="Black">Skakid9090 23:25, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

RUNNNNNN
He's an admin! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo I thought Skuld was enough! Even though I kinda liked Skuld XD. But still, he's bound to turn into a dictator! - Definatley Not Cheese


 * Wow, this must be definitely NOT Cheese. Cheese would never make a title such as RUNNNNNN.  ‽<font color=#C60000>-(єronħ)  no u 20:30, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
 * Yeah, now you're definitely gonna get banned for sockpuppetry, Cheese :P --  Nova  [[Image:Jirouji-Nova.jpg]] --  (contribs) 16:08, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Check and Review
Are you saying they have been checked, or need to be checked. Because some of those need to be reworked, or are definately sub standard compared to other builds. <font face="arial" color="Green">Shireen sysop  16:20, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

They work. Not that they don't need to be rewritten because of usage and whatnot. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 16:21, 14 June 2007 (EDT)
 * Translation: This build does not currently violate PW:WELL. --[[Image:Rollerzerris.jpg|50x19px]]    12:14, 15 June 2007 (EDT)

User:Krowman/Improvement
Would you take a look at this when you get the chance? It's a good place for users to receive direction for edits that they may want to make, and it has the admin task list that I think you'll like. I want to move this into the mainspace and link to it from the Main Page once it has been reviewed by a few more people. Thanks. - <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman    14:36, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

Very well. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 14:48, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

not a CHANCE
you cannot tank aataxes with just AoE and stoneflesh. - <font color="Black">Skakid9090 16:39, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

Armor nerf only affects stacking. Still has +80 armor. And yes it can. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 16:41, 16 June 2007 (EDT)
 * and...? it's stacking AoE and kinetic. - <font color="Black">Skakid9090 16:41, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

I removed AoE. It doesn't absolutely need it. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 16:42, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

Super prO Builds


























<font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 19:30, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

My admin nomination
It was stated that we have a list if we suddenly need admins... just letting you know, I won't be promoted until there is a need, even if everyone on the site says yes. Just letting ya know, no need to change it <font color=#6e8b3d>frvwfr2  (talk · contributions) 14:34, 17 June 2007 (EDT)

help
Please check it out Help needed. Thx :) &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gcardinal (contribs).

- Mucho Appriciato for the links bro. Im going to bed. See you later. <font face="arial" color="Green">Shireen sysop  17:37, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

Viability Checks
is it just you doing this? - <font color="Black">Skakid9090 15:59, 21 June 2007 (EDT)

Pretty much :). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 16:06, 21 June 2007 (EDT)
 * ok, i thought it was some super-secret admin conspiracy ;) - <font color="Black">Skakid9090 16:09, 21 June 2007 (EDT)

Uploads
Are borked :( ‽<font color=#C60000>-(єяøηħ)  no u 05:36, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

Heh? <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 05:38, 22 June 2007 (EDT)
 * Well I cant see the pics u just uploaded anyways. It's sad.  ‽<font color=#C60000>-(єяøηħ)  no u 05:40, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

Meh, they work. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 05:43, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

Warrior Builds (PvP)
W/A Death's Charge Hammer Spiker
 * Moved from Archive talk:W/E Conjure Cripslash

W/A Forceful Burden

W/A Lone Ganksman

W/A Shove Hammer Spiker

W/A Steady Axe Warrior

W/E Agressive Hammer

W/E Charge Sword

W/E Linebacker

W/E Shock Axe

W/Mo "You're All Alone!" Paladin

W/Mo Magehunter Strike Spiker

W/N Bull's Charge Sword

W/Rt Unnatural Fury

W/any Charging Anti-kite

W/any Charging Executioner

W/any Crippling Slash Sword

W/any Dragon Sword

W/any Fierce Hammer

W/any Flailing Coward

W/any Lonely Basher

W/any Rage of the Mokele

W/any Steady Stance Warrior

<font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 00:32, 26 May 2007 (CEST)

Oh, and we need to fix the shout images. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 00:35, 26 May 2007 (CEST)
 * LOL, was that really necessary. Zuranthium 16:55, 5 June 2007 (CEST)


 * Forceful Burden and Lone Ganksman are dupes... -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 18:48, 5 June 2007 (CEST)


 * Fixed it just for you ;) <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 22:10, 9 June 2007 (CEST)
 * Moved your compilation of warrior builds here. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 17:27, 23 June 2007 (EDT)
 * Ty? <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 11:28, 24 June 2007 (EDT)

Mesmer Builds
Just thought I'd let you know that your Mesmer builds that are under your userspace are showing up in the builds categories. Would you mind removing the tags from them? I don't want to touch them myself.

And also, consider archiving this talk page ;) -- Nova   --  (contribs) 07:48, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

Not quite understanding...? What category? <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 07:51, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

Noob User Box?
Hey, your Noob User Box is a little inapropriate for a Syop don't ya think? Whom do you think comes to PvX looking for builds? Not the uber advanced guys, but the people looking for help reaching that next level, or get started... I really need to write up a letter to the admins on 'quality customer service', cuz I think were all lacking in that area. <font face="arial" color="Green">Shireen sysop  08:13, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

Um no. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 08:29, 25 June 2007 (EDT) (shamelessly stolen from Honorable Sarah)
 * 

I see your difference in definitions. <font face="arial" color="Green">Shireen sysop  08:38, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

Some random reason (most likely because I pwn)
Thanks for not pwning =) - <font color="Black">Skakid9090 º_o 12:45, 27 June 2007 (EDT)

K. Will try moar. bb! <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 12:46, 27 June 2007 (EDT)

abandoned stubs
theres... so.... MANY! - <font color="Black">Skakid9090 º_o 15:55, 27 June 2007 (EDT)
 * I'll delete all that you tag. I wouldn't bother yourself too much. Once the vetting system is in place, it will be a matter of minutes before I delete them all. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 15:57, 27 June 2007 (EDT)
 * how'd you delete the same thing twice 0.o - <font color="Black">Skakid9090 º_o 16:01, 27 June 2007 (EDT)
 * Look at the section above pls. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 16:04, 27 June 2007 (EDT)

Archive Time???
'''WARNING: This page is 60 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections. '''--Midnight08 16:07, 27 June 2007 (EDT)

User Self Rate
This is simple, do we allow user's to rate their own builds now that they can rate different levels or do we still not trust them enough? ‽<font color=#C60000>-(єяøηħ) no u 05:47, 30 June 2007 (CEST)

What is this "Trust" you speak of o.O? <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 05:49, 30 June 2007 (CEST)

Start rating builds =) - <font color="Black">Skakid9090 º_o 09:21, 30 June 2007 (CEST)

Thanks for the heads up bro. As for the Virluent Pressure build, there is a spike in there, and that comes from the Toxic shock signant. As for the weakness, think about GVG, Crippling Dagger is great against one target that you can get close to. The weakness, on the other hand, in a GVG match can be quickly spread about to help keep other monks busy cleaning conditions as they arn't sure whether it's blind or something else. The top necro is there for GVG and HA team pressure builds, the lower variant, which you favor, is definately much stronger in TA and RA. If you really feel the 'pressure' build needs to converted to the spiking TA/RA solo kill variant, then after I get at least 2 other people to chime in with that consensus, Ill flip the top and the bottom and varriant skill selection on the daggers. Enfeeble is just a much easier way to get virluence to activate. <font face="arial" color="Green">Shireen sysop  10:28, 1 July 2007 (CEST)

Hehe, np. Augury is just overpowered dude, in every respect imaginable. It should be in a lot of Builds actually....merely suggesting tho. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 10:32, 1 July 2007 (CEST)

Then why not leave Augury to be loaded on the actual assasin that the team can load up into a slot? <font face="arial" color="Green">Shireen sysop  10:34, 1 July 2007 (CEST)

Well, one reason is because assassins have unusually long attack chains in comparison to other melee classes already. Once they have the necessary utilities (IAS, Expose Defenses, ect) there is just no room for Augury. Besides, Assassins already usually have some source of Deep Wound, while in caster Builds Deep Wound is rather rare, making Augury an extraordinarily useful skill. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 10:37, 1 July 2007 (CEST)

I noted that Deadly Paradox could be replaced with Augury on the Top Necro Build. Augury is on the standard bar of the bottom. You loose the fast recharge of the daggers and signant, but I don't think it really huts the pressure of the build much. <font face="arial" color="Green">Shireen sysop  10:44, 1 July 2007 (CEST)

Mallyx
gate trick still works, used it last night. - <font color="Black">Skakid9090 º_o 01:07, 2 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Heh, you'd think they would fix that :P. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 01:41, 2 July 2007 (CEST)
 * they fixed it once but then broke it by fixing something else (confusing, i know =P) - <font color="Black">Skakid9090 º_o 01:44, 2 July 2007 (CEST)

My Sandcastle
--Mgrinshpon (C/T) 01:50, 2 July 2007 (CEST)

Vandalism
I want to apologize for my unacceptable actions by vandalizing a user page. I hope to make the Wiki even better. Metal enchantment 04:07, 2 July 2007 (CEST)
 * As long as I see that you are making an attempt :). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 04:12, 2 July 2007 (CEST)

Cleanup Tags
It's not getting out of hand. I am ensuring that builds are propperly formatted. Difiant knows I am working on this, and once we get people conditioned to actually upholding the quality standards that we have set down it wont be so bad. Its the same standard, I just lowered the tolorance level. If someone has a concern they can come to me for help, check my page, and youll see I'm doing that. Everyone whom asks me for help, I am helping. I'll worry about quality of formatting, you can worry about quality of builds. <font face="arial" color="Green">Shireen sysop  23:35, 2 July 2007 (CEST)
 * You have had at least 3 people contact you about their builds in the past 1:43 minutes...it is getting out of hand. Lower your expectations, or fix the builds yourself. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 23:44, 2 July 2007 (CEST)


 * You know on Sunday I placed close to 150 build stubs right? I did a quality control sweep.  Our Wiki was that badly riddled with poor formatting and incomplete builds.  Why was I able to do that, because We as Admins let it slip.  I am just starting the long process of making Build Formating Quality a priority once again (or for the first time) as well as the mechanical quality of that build.  <font face="arial" color="Green">Shireen  sysop  23:49, 2 July 2007 (CEST)

I expect things to get worse and my workload to tripple before this project is done. <font face="arial" color="Green">Shireen sysop  23:49, 2 July 2007 (CEST)


 * This is an impossible task Shireen. Unless you plan on placing a infinite number of clean-up tags, they will never stop coming. If a Build is a Stub, do NOT place a Clean-up tag. Do NOT place a tag, on candidates for deletion, or unfavored Builds.I would rather you place the tags, on Builds that are already favored, or that are in the process of becoming. Our quality must be in the Tested Builds section ONLY. I am not just protecting new users from fixing Builds that are bound to be unfavored; I am saving you from the endless hassle you are making for yourself. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 00:00, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

A cleanup tag is justifaction to be sent back to stubs. If it needs a cleanup, the build was not finished. And you only say it's impossible because no one has TRIED to actually uphold our quality standards on a full scale. Look at our Trial and Testing sections, every build currently in there is up to standard, can be viewed and easily read. No one is holding poor formatting against those builds and people are focusing on how well they WORK, not how they look. Every build-stub I placed pushed unfinished builds out of those areas and into stubs with a cleanup tag on it. "I am not just protecting new users from fixing Builds that are bound to be unfavored; I am saving you from the endless hassle you are making for yourself." - Yes, it will be a total and horrible hassle if I am the only person doing this. And if you want to sit on your laurels and work on build quality, then help me out and pick out the PvX:Well builds and start marking them. Because I KNOW there are a lot of em in there. But I don't see many tags out of you. Your are helping improve builds, but only those you deem worthy. Your an elitist, and I respect that. You and I are going to butt heads on a regular basis, and for that I don't mind. Just realize that there is more than just the Uber out there. Were here to promote the game and improvement of people with that game, not just the uber build right? <font face="arial" color="Green">Shireen sysop  00:08, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

Oh, there is one misunderstanding I don't think your getting. Those 150 Cleanup tags I placed, I also moved those builds INTO stubs. I did not go crawling around stubs to place tags there. It was justification for the move. <font face="arial" color="Green">Shireen sysop  00:12, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

I don't touch stubs. I will delete them, say they work atrociously, or have no synergy; sure. But I will not go in and find Builds that may never come into existance. More MoR Warriors are in stubs then I can imagine. Moving mass amounts of Builds into stubs, is guarenteeing that a great percentage will never see daylight. New users, and anon users espcially, will give up once they see that tag. You cannot expect, that new users will be able to fix their own Builds. The few determined, will try very hard, and then; the Build becomes unfavored. Some will become openly disruptive; others will lose faith, and will leave the wiki entirely. I don't know about you Shireen, but I would like a more positive atmosphere about the wiki; that is open to new users and accepts their failures, rather then stick a giant finger in their faces. think of this simple analogy: You are currently raising the pedestal. They will adjust their builds, to fit the pedestal's standards. The Builds they post (Most) will become unfavored and fall from grace. The higher up they were however, the harder they shall fall. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 00:39, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

So what do you want to do then? Just ignore the poorly formatted builds? Ignore the procedures of build evolution? Let users post whatever they want wherever they want? Stubs is for incomplete builds. Part of any build submission to Trial or Untested is that they have a complete skill bar AND are correctly formatted and filled out. You have to have both. And you agreed, when you became a syop, to help uphold the rules. If it's incorrectly formated, work with the author and get it out of stubs. You say that the authors react negatively, and I just want to say your own behavior contributes to that more than mine does. You've said it before yourself, you just want to tell an author their build sucks and move on, only giving those that are of high quality your precious time. THAT contributes to people being pissed off more than working with them hand in hand to improve their build quality. Everyone whom has asked me what was wrong with their build I've assisted, and those individuals are starting to see it. They have accomplished something rather than failed. They have also seen that were more willing to work with them and ARE reasonable and fair if they work with the system. And I am not adjusting the standards at all... For the first time I am enforcing the standard across the board according to our own guides and rules. <font face="arial" color="Green">Shireen sysop  01:02, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

See these two links? Tag them. Ignore the rest, as they have not been submitted to the public eye, and are not yet ready for testing. I have fixed numerous Builds Shireen...given my honest opinion on builds that are "In-testing" and advice for builds that are "in-development". I do Not randomly select Builds and trash them, no matter how bad they are. Sure, I'll say it doesn't work, but trash builds I will not. You are abusing the clean-up tag Shireen. There is a difference, between a poorly written build, and an illegible build. If we are unable to understand the basic underlying principles, it needs to be cleaned up. If it is just rather breif, and not too specific, just say so on the talk page. The people you have helped, have yet to feel the pangs of failure. We have few unfavored Builds atm. Their is a reason, Shireen, that no one takes the intiative to do what you are doing...and that reason is that it is impractical, impossible, and in the end will ultimately FAIL.   01:40, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

Ok, I'm coming in on this. Readem, shut the heck up. I'm sorry, but you need to listen to Shireen. I've seen a lot of the cleanup tags. They should be there. Sure, a lot of the builds will fail, but a few will succeed where they might have failed otherwise. If someone fails, they should, and most likely will, try again. This time, they can make it right the first time, and maybe get that one vetted. You are looking at the wiki as a bunch of experienced players. Not all people who come here are. I'm seeing a lot of the current admins as being what Shireen named "elitists", even at the vetting procedure talk. This wiki is for everyone, not just the ones that have played 4000 hours in the past 12 months. So I've put in my 2 cents. Bluemilkman 06:14, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

Dude, really. This is not relating you whatsoever. Refrain for interjecting. I have seen many of those tags, some need it, others do not. Shireen does not know what he is getting into. I am trying to prevent this, before further hassle occurs. Few will help him, as it is a tedious never-ending task. Oh, and for the record about being an elitist, stfu. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 06:40, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

Yea, that's the way an admin should talk. This does relate to me, and the rest of the wiki. I am free to interject where I see fit. I saw fit, so I did. I think he does know what he is getting into. He's getting into helping the builds become better quality-wise. He saw something that needed to be fixed, so he started to work on fixing it. Maybe you should spend less time hassling him about what he's doing to help, and start finding new ways you can help. Isn't that what an admin does? Bluemilkman 06:47, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

You were openly rude. As an Admin, and as a User, you have no right to act in the way you did. I merely retorted. This does not relate to you, not at all; if it comes down to be harshly blunt, that is what I do best. You are but a User, this does not involve you or any other User besides Shireen, and myself. If you think that I have restraints as an Admin, you are dead wrong. I am one of the rashest users, rashest Human beings, that you will ever meet. I will not tolerate, being pushed around by anyone, especially you. Now I politely asked you to refrain from interjecting, and I would appreciate it if you would. Do not try me. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 06:58, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

Sounds like its time for some intervention. Readem, honestly, if Shireen wants to go through all this work, let him. Shireen, I agree with the unsigned comment, in that we can prioritize the testing builds for clean-up. In practice, the most horribly written builds are posted by anons, or users who come to the wiki to post only that one build, and they usually get abandoned. Just leave it to be deleted in its uncleanly state, rather than let it get deleted in pristine condition. We don't want to waste anyone's time cleaning up a build, only to have it deleted later. Bluemilkman, it's a sad fact of the game that elitists exist. Just meet Auron in-game and ask him to rank-flash you; that's the whole point of titles, to distinguish and differentiate players. (P.S. I'm gleefully enjoying this conversation. It's like watching a sitcom where the adorable slob and the uptight go-getter are paired as roommates together. Srsly, though, solutions exist, so let's work at them.) - <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman    06:53, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

I really don't care what Shireen does, it's his problem. I am just trying to prevent endless hours of work for everyone. Until they enter the Tested Section, or if the underlying principle of a build cannot be determined, then leave it be. Don't go "Willy-Nilly" with the Clean-up tag. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 07:02, 3 July 2007 (CEST)


 * lolololololol willy nilly - <font color="#336666">Skakid9090 07:03, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

I don't care what titles he has. This is not the game. This is a site to help those who don't have all those titles, as well as those that do. I also don't appreciate being told to shut the fuck up. Just because you're an admin doesn't mean you can say whatever you want. Show respect, and you will get it in return. Don't show respect, and you probably won't get it. I am different and won't go there, that's not me. But the newer players need guidance to make their builds better. We don't need admins saying their build isn't worth making better. That will just push them away. But since I don't have all those titles, maybe you shouldn't listen to me. I'm not "good" enough. Bluemilkman 07:05, 3 July 2007 (CEST)
 * No one has said you are not "good enough." Gaming elites exist; that's a fact that needs to be dealt with. You can consider some of the in-game titles as accreditations. They are evidence of a player's skill, knowledge or time spent in the game. Throwing around 'elitist' comments like you have only serves to bait users. I don't feel any pity for you; Readem could have thrown an insult right back at you for all I care. Though he could have handled it more politely, you provoked him, and instead of insulting you in return, you essentially closed discussion on that topic. That is a good thing, as it will keep the clean-up tag discussion on topic. No one here has said that new players don't deserve guidance; every user in this conversation has at some point contributed to developing a build. The point being discussed here is the use of the clean-up tag. Shireen wants to follow proper procedure; Readem wants to spend time more usefully. That is what the debate is about; keep it on topic. - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   07:16, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

Never once have I said I was an "Elitist". It has negative connotations that I do not believe I deserve. I am fair to all users, give advice whenever possible, and usually I make their builds MUCH better. I do more then add worthless "clean-up" tags. I take it a step further. Now Bluemilkman, don't you think you are being a bit hypocritical here? You clearly told me to "Sthu", did you not? May I not do such as well? If I feel attacked, as I am feeling, may I not defend myself? Do I have less rights as an Administrator, then you do as a user? Just something to think about. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 07:14, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

Blue, Buddy, chill out, or I'll give you a little madatory time out time to cool down. You provoked Raedman and jump dead center into a conversation between Syops and Administration Philosophy between those two individuals. I did not need a public defender as no exchange between Raedem and I had reached any true level of personal involvement. For now, lets adjourn this. Rad, sorry for bringing this down on your user page and will finish this discussion later. <font face="arial" color="Green">Shireen sysop  07:11, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

Oh, don't worry, I will give myself some time out. I'm sick of people thinking they're better than everyone else. No, this is not all because of this, because I see it a lot. I shouldn't have called him an "elitist", but that doesn't call for anything like how he talked to me. So right now, you can thank yourself for losing a major contributer for a while. Congrats admins. Bluemilkman 07:16, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

... Peace and harmony, people. Peace and harmony.-- Nova   --  (contribs) 15:12, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

I thought about this for the past couple days, and have come to the conclusion that when I see someone heckling someone else for doing something they believe helps, I don't take to it very well. I have no beef with you, and I should not have made it personal, as it wasn't before I came in. I want what is best for this site, and I get pretty passionate about it sometimes. So what I'm trying to say, is that I'm sorry I was a butthead, and I'll try and not go there again. Take it as you will. Bluemilkman 08:56, 4 July 2007 (CEST)

Solo SS necro
hey there, i saw you changed spirit bond to reckless haste after i changed the solo build. i just wanted to say that reckless is totally counter synergistic with insidious parasite, and reckless haste is generally not needed as most of the farming done in this day and age with a 55 nec is done in hard mode, and that makes reckless haste's increased atk speed useless. as for its 52% miss chance, your survivability is just fine with spirit bond. i'm going to go ahead and change it back if you don't mind, because the spirit bnd variation is incredibly effective at keeping you alive as well as still doing plenty of damage, and it's easy for first time wiki copiers to pick up and go. any reason i shouldn't? 76.24.233.12 04:04, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

Go ahead, RH was just mendtioned on the Talk Page :). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 04:17, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

Vote
Bringing to your attention some retarded vote of build. Please ask the voter to change his vote from 5/5/5(100%) to something else, and if he can't be serious, simply remove it... Thanks in advance. -- Nova   --  (contribs) 15:05, 3 July 2007 (CEST)
 * And plox archive your talk page. -- Nova  [[Image:Jirouji-Nova.jpg]] --  (contribs) 17:00, 3 July 2007 (CEST)
 * WARNING: This page is 84 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections. -- Nova  [[Image:Jirouji-Nova.jpg]] --  (contribs) 17:01, 3 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Zomg, it's Golem Festival :O. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 20:02, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

while you're at it delete the vote at Archive:R/Me Fissure Forest Farmer. the guy unfavored it cause he cant use it right =P - <font color="#336666">Skakid9090 20:13, 3 July 2007 (CEST) Would you also delete the last vote on ? The guy voted out of hate.Ansom 14:50, 27 July 2007 (CEST)

question
What does the "introduction to NF" have to do with removing a 5-5-5 rating? Mgelo21 02:18, 4 July 2007 (CEST)


 * It mainly has to do with the statement "It's so cool it will work." Which implies that the concept is cool, but the author has niether tried it, nor has had experience working with such a build. Coolness is not a strong cofidance adjective when describing a builds ability. Thats the main reason the 5 5 5 was removed.<font face="arial" color="Green">Shireen  sysop  10:26, 4 July 2007 (CEST)

It's introduction of NF. I'm guessing he means the skill could be better because of the introduction of NF, so a perfect score shouldn't be there. Just a guess though. Bluemilkman 09:02, 4 July 2007 (CEST)


 * Guys...it if Golem Festival...it sux. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 12:55, 4 July 2007 (CEST)


 * But golem festival is fun! - <font color="#336666">Skakid9090 13:14, 4 July 2007 (CEST)

W/Mo Gladiator vote
Chop chop (remove my vote). Leave a funny reason too. &mdash; Rapta   (talk|contribs) 06:09, 6 July 2007 (CEST)

Funny...I don't understand Rapta? <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 10:32, 6 July 2007 (CEST)

2:30
wut is this sleep, that I need? <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 10:33, 6 July 2007 (CEST)

stop being nub >.> - <font color="#336666">Skakid9090 04:03, 7 July 2007 (CEST)

Wut, r u sure that is me? <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 04:03, 7 July 2007 (CEST)

you took it toooo far dude - <font color="#336666">Skakid9090 04:17, 7 July 2007 (CEST)

Took wat? <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 04:25, 7 July 2007 (CEST)

Well, ttyl guys. Off to RL now :). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 05:13, 7 July 2007 (CEST)

Do you not see what I am trying to do?
Im trying to give you and every other wiki administrator a justification, a documented case, inorder to delete wammo builds on site, with needing little more than a brief explination and a link on the user page. Also, we now have a category to post "Please check here to ensure your build is not one of these before submitting." Im trying to save us work and cover our ass, and increase the buffer zone between what may be precieved as a personal attack against a new user. Trying to help stop the whole, "Lets get but hurt" kind of thing. Will you just show me a little trust. Im not being an idiot, the system will work. <font face="arial" color="Green">Shireen sysop  05:26, 8 August 2007 (CEST)

That is the thing Shireen, we do not need justification. It is a waste of time. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 03:26, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

Umm
Can you check out my build Masterseru 03:23, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

Sure. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 03:26, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

MSN
I know you and I don't sometimes get along, but I was wondering if I could sit in on your conversation when you're having it. No, I'm not going to say anything, I just wanted to see it. If you don't want me to, that's fine. Maybe you could give me a copy of it or something. If not, tehn I guess this was a fruitless request. Bluemilkman 05:13, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

Sure. I don't care. As long as the others do not protest :). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 05:51, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

i protest! muwhaha - <font color="#336666">Skakid9090 05:52, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

But unfortunately for u, u r teh roxxors. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 05:53, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

Featured PvE Build
I was wondering that since Archive:Any/D Generic Forge Runner has been vetted, if you can put my build as the featured PvE build? I don't know if I'm wrong here, but I can't put it there myself as the featured builds are shown on the main page >.< --Teh Uber Pwnzer 11:51, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

[[Image:Shadow_Sanctuary_%28Luxon%29.jpg]]
. Ta-da. ‽<font color=#C60000>-(єяøηħ) no u 17:03, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

PvXwiki:Real Vetting
Shouldn't that be the first step, to ask him to explain the vote and see if it was just some misunderstanding? You can still complain on him if asking doesn't help. –&thinsp;<font color="darkblue" face="times">H HHIPPO  &lsaquo;<font color="blue" size="-2">sysop &rsaquo; 23:03, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

We have many cases. They contact the user, and violate NPA. Has already happened more then it should have. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 23:15, 9 July 2007 (CEST)


 * Oh, that's bad. They should ask the user, not insult him. Hmm, hard to say how to solve that. We can't really say it's forbidden to use each other's talk pages, but NPA violations should be pursued. –&thinsp;<font color="darkblue" face="times">H HHIPPO  &lsaquo;<font color="blue" size="-2">sysop &rsaquo; 23:27, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

Yeah. I suggest this: <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 23:31, 9 July 2007 (CEST)
 * We do not allow the discussion of votes on user talk pages (Exceptions would be Administrators)
 * Suggest the use of the Build Talk Page instead, to vent


 * What if the voter doesn't respond because he's not checking the build talk page? Voting doesn't put the page on the watchlist. Shouldn't we rather enforce NPA, wherever needed? –&thinsp;<font color="darkblue" face="times">H HHIPPO  &lsaquo;<font color="blue" size="-2">sysop &rsaquo; 23:59, 9 July 2007 (CEST)
 * If the bad vote is brought to the attention of an administrator, then in most cases it won't be even brought to the user. This method is a more subtle way of handling NPA's. Worse case scenario, an admin will bring the vote to the user, and ask specifically why the voter voted as he did. No Bias, no NPA. Case closed. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 00:03, 10 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Hmm, yea, we can try that. I'm afraid the kind of people who violate NPA will not care about such rules, but let's see. –&thinsp;<font color="darkblue" face="times">H HHIPPO  &lsaquo;<font color="blue" size="-2">sysop &rsaquo; 00:07, 10 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Probably, but should negate some unnecessary conflict. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 00:22, 10 July 2007 (CEST)

Reverts to the Monk builds
The variants were perfectly valid and to a certain extent I agree with them, so why remove them? <font color=#ff0000>Napalm Flame  ^_^ <font color=#0000ff>(talk)·(contributions) 23:39, 10 July 2007 (CEST)

Because one, just added the word "Good". The other is not a worthy note :/. GoLE is much better then DS, in almost all scenarios :/. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 23:40, 10 July 2007 (CEST)
 * True... But nothing goes to say they can't be USED xP <font color=#ff0000>Napalm Flame  ^_^ [[Image:Napalm_Flame_Sig_Image.JPG‎]] <font color=#0000ff>(talk)·(contributions) 00:06, 11 July 2007 (CEST)

Fix to PvX:NPA
Fix the redirect please, tried to make one since one didn't exist, but it isn't working. Help would be appreciated. (Orange female istani looks better btw lol) <font color=#ff0000>Napalm Flame  ^_^  <font color=#0000ff>(talk)·(contributions) 02:29, 11 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Purge your cache. - Auron 02:31, 11 July 2007 (CEST)
 * kk, got it.  <font color=#ff0000>Napalm Flame  ^_^ [[Image:Napalm_Flame_Sig_Image.JPG‎]] <font color=#0000ff>(talk)·(contributions) 03:00, 11 July 2007 (CEST)

Rate to Touch Ranger
Bob fregman made a vote which is not necessarily valid. He says it doesn't deserve a 5 for innovation as it is an 'old' build, and that is scores a 0 for universality for some BS. Just read his votes, one skim over is good enough to prove it delete-worthy... Everyone hates the build but it deserves it's great status. <font color=#ff0000>Napalm Flame  ^_^ <font color=#0000ff>(talk)·(contributions) 03:00, 11 July 2007 (CEST)

Mo/R Resilient
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Search?search=Mo%2FR
 * It seems that the MediaWiki search engine is not too happy about the '/' in the pagename. Try this instead. –&thinsp;<font color="darkblue" face="times">H HHIPPO  &lsaquo;<font color="blue" size="-2">sysop &rsaquo; 10:31, 11 July 2007 (CEST)

Invalid vote
Archive:E/Mo Savannah Heat Farmer Rapta has made an invalid vote which I feel should be crossed. Sure, there are hellloads of UW farmer builds about, but scoring something low just because there are lots about isn't really fair. It's like slamming 20+ builds which use cripslash in totally different situations because there are 'too many'. As you can see, I'm no very happy with voting in it's current state... <font color=#ff0000>Napalm Flame  ^_^ <font color=#0000ff>(talk)·(contributions) 19:53, 11 July 2007 (CEST)

About Awe
It's not an elite by the way. <font color=#ff0000>Napalm Flame  ^_^ <font color=#0000ff>(talk)·(contributions) 20:19, 11 July 2007 (CEST)

I know. it is just not very good. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 20:20, 11 July 2007 (CEST)
 * On a hammer warrior it's not bad if they are P/W. <font color=#ff0000>Napalm Flame  ^_^ [[Image:Napalm_Flame_Sig_Image.JPG‎]] <font color=#0000ff>(talk)·(contributions) 20:47, 11 July 2007 (CEST)

Featured Untested
Change the featured untested plz... thanks. <font color=#6e8b3d>frvwfr2  (talk · contributions) 02:46, 12 July 2007 (CEST)

Build:N/E Reaper's Mark Anti-Melee Necromancer
Will fail less next time =(. Sorry. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 03:18, 12 July 2007 (CEST)

smite some votes
go smite the 2 extremely low votes in SH ele that say easily countered by running out, the description says its to be used with KD or snares. you're on do not disturb btw >.> - <font color="#336666">Skakid9090 21:21, 12 July 2007 (CEST)

Yay!
I finally finished removing ALL bad votes in the PvP section ^.^. I win! <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 04:45, 13 July 2007 (CEST)
 * "If a vote appears unjustified (e.g. only 0-scores or no meaningful reason given), the voter should be asked for clarification. As a last resort, admins have the power to strike a vote." Did you forget this part before striking all the votes? Bob fregman 19:24, 13 July 2007 (CEST)
 * I forget nothing. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 19:27, 13 July 2007 (CEST)
 * I guess it's just disregard then, ironic actually Bob fregman 19:47, 13 July 2007 (CEST)
 * I strike bad votes ironically, and idiotic one's for shits and giggles. <font color="Black">Readem  (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 19:49, 13 July 2007 (CEST)
 * You seem to strike virtually every vote that doesn't seem to score the build the same as you. Half the time your reasons for striking them are questionable(or poorly written), and i don't think you ever consult the person who rated it.  Can't you at least follow your own policies. Bob fregman 20:38, 13 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Yes, because I strike dumb votes. Poorly written (Oh, it is "I" not "i" the last time I checked)? Must I consult ever newb who votes poorly? Can you QQ? <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 20:43, 13 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Oh, and please get to the fucking point sometime tomorrow, ty. This regards the removal of the Touch Ranger vote. here, now QQ. <font color="Black">Readem  (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 20:48, 13 July 2007 (CEST)

builds-table
unprotect it, you're the only one who wants it protected. nubbycake - <font color="#336666">Skakid9090 21:29, 13 July 2007 (CEST)

5.is readem nub?

orly?

YARLY
 * 1) - <font color="#336666">Skakid9090  21:29, 13 July 2007 (CEST)

Newb, anons can delete the main page :P. Just tested :P <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 21:30, 13 July 2007 (CEST)


 * duh, that means you get more chances to ban. doesn't that sound fun? - <font color="#336666">Skakid9090 21:31, 13 July 2007 (CEST)


 * Um no, as I am gone in 2 days :/. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 21:33, 13 July 2007 (CEST)

it takes a whole two clicks to revert. Bluemilkman 22:10, 13 July 2007 (CEST)

Actually, only one to rollback :). &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Readem (contribs).


 * History, Compare, Undo, Save... 4 to me, but I'm just a regular user. =P. [[Image:User Frvwfr2 signature.jpg|User:Frvwfr2]] <font color=#6e8b3d>frvwfr2  (talk · contributions) 22:11, 13 July 2007 (CEST)

Yeah, Readem isn't god. We all know I am. I pwned the arse off of 4 people, which was 1 monk 1 ranger 1 derv and 1 necro... And that was all sitting guarding the priest. I was running surprise surprise, the Me/W Illusion Slasher. I tanked, I raped, I ROCKED. It was derv down first, then the ranger, then the monk and then the necro. 4 people killed by one little mesmer. THIS! IS! NAPALM! *nerf 4 peeps* <font color=#ff0000>Napalm Flame  ^_^  <font color=#0000ff>(talk)·(contributions) 01:50, 14 July 2007 (CEST)
 * I r god newb. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 02:06, 14 July 2007 (CEST)

Template:Builds Table
Doesn't help when you delete it. Now the main page looks like crap. Good job. Bluemilkman 23:38, 13 July 2007 (CEST)

Pls, stfu while I do this. Ty. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 23:39, 13 July 2007 (CEST)

Mk, I'll take that back. You fixed it pretty fast. Bluemilkman 23:41, 13 July 2007 (CEST)

haha, I'll talk when it pleases me. But then again, all you have to do is ask nicely. Bluemilkman 23:42, 13 July 2007 (CEST)

Rlly, stop. I am trying to do this. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 23:44, 13 July 2007 (CEST)

lawl sure u r <font color=#ff0000>Napalm Flame  ^_^  <font color=#0000ff>(talk)·(contributions) 01:51, 14 July 2007 (CEST)

Greetings
Greeting comrade! <font color=#ff0000>Napalm Flame  ^_^ <font color=#0000ff>(talk)·(contributions) 02:47, 14 July 2007 (CEST)

o, hi dar :) <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 02:58, 14 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Yees comrade, your spies (or rather me) have noticed something is not quite right. Taan's vote to Archive:Mo/W RA Bonder is indescriptive, inconclusive and says pretty much nothing. It's not that I don't agree with his scoring... Just look for yourself comrade xP <font color=#ff0000>Napalm Flame  ^_^ [[Image:Napalm_Flame_Sig_Image.JPG‎]] <font color=#0000ff>(talk)·(contributions) 03:10, 14 July 2007 (CEST)

im so popular and famous - <font color="#336666">Skakid9090 06:30, 14 July 2007 (CEST)

A blank sheet of paper...very nice Skakid, very nice O_0... <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 06:33, 14 July 2007 (CEST)


 * click on it tbh. - <font color="#336666">Skakid9090 06:34, 14 July 2007 (CEST)


 * That doesn't make much sense tbh :P. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 06:35, 14 July 2007 (CEST)


 * [[Image:Readem sucks.jpg]] tbh. - <font color="#336666">Skakid9090 06:38, 14 July 2007 (CEST)


 * ? You save Gaile's quotes?!? You sick bastard! <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 06:39, 14 July 2007 (CEST)

Later Guys
Tomorrow working all day, and Sunday on a plane at 6 :P. Be back when I have access to a computer (May not happen soon :/...) <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 06:45, 14 July 2007 (CEST)


 * dont nub up that airplane plz... thx and bye =) <font color="#336666">Skakid9090 06:46, 14 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Bye Readem. I am not sure if I will be able to survive without your wisdom. --Edru viransu 06:48, 14 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Take care. - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   07:28, 14 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Is this what you do at work, Readem? --Edru viransu 21:46, 14 July 2007 (CEST)
 * I am 17, moving, and have been up since 6 this morning :/. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 21:48, 14 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Ah, I interpreted working as the job kind of work. --Edru viransu 21:53, 14 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Well, speaking that I was carrying boxes for 5 hours until my hands began bleeding from all the chafing, I guess it is all a matter of opinion what a "job" truly is :P. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 21:58, 14 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Landed successfully :). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 01:17, 16 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Good point. I interpreted working as the employment kind of work, then. Good to hear that you landed successfully. Does this mean that I can expect your wisdom again, now? --Edru viransu 01:37, 16 July 2007 (CEST)
 * wb - <font color="#336666">Skakid9090 01:30, 16 July 2007 (CEST)

lol
you're gonna have to remove the unfavored tag from all those builds =) - <font color="#336666">Skakid9090  21:26, 14 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Oh gawd, that's not your signature now, is it? - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   21:54, 14 July 2007 (CEST)


 * i decided to change it =P - <font color="#336666">Skakid9090 21:55, 14 July 2007 (CEST)

What readem is missing =P
Maturity, Logic, and Reason. you must grow up. ty and have a nice day. that is all. =P--Lokre 19:15, 16 July 2007 (CEST)
 * You are fucking kidding me? <font color="Black">Readem ;; (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 16:05, 17 July 2007 (CEST)
 * A mildly entertaining jest, at best. --Edru viransu 23:02, 16 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Not trying to be a jerk or anything, but I think you said exactly what he wanted you to say. At least, he probably wanted that type of reaction. Bluemilkman 16:25, 17 July 2007 (CEST)
 * PvX:NPA. Nuff said.  —ǥȓɩηɔɧ 〚₮/ḉ〛 20:06, 18 July 2007 (CEST)
 * O.o? He quoted exactly what I said to him... then laugh at that, and people start repremanding me? <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 00:09, 19 July 2007 (CEST)

I'm not repremanding you for anything. Just watch the language. I'm sure he didn't say that. I still like you though. Bluemilkman 04:58, 19 July 2007 (CEST)

== My build is good so i am going to complain in my title to you, but seriously, for a seeping build its pretty tight. ‽<font color=#C60000>-(єяøηħ) no u 06:11, 18 July 2007 (CEST)==

... <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 00:01, 19 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Sorry, I am a spaz. ‽<font color=#C60000>-(єяøηħ)  no u 00:05, 19 July 2007 (CEST)
 * You are not alone :). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 00:10, 19 July 2007 (CEST)

Struck Vote
hey i dont see any reason why you had to remove my vote in the touch ranger build. your motivation made me lol. touch rangers are not warriors, and if i dont like to switch target 'cause I already wasted half of my energy on one, I dont see why this would make my opinion invalid. --Morten 17:00, 18 July 2007 (CEST)

Will check. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 00:15, 19 July 2007 (CEST)

Just revote with a slightly better reason m8. Kiting ofc is a counter, but that is one of the few that can counter a touchy; making it a very solid build in-general. It's like a war, that is immune to blind, and does AI damage :/. Pretty good imo. The Warrior comment was a reference to target switching. For example, in GvG if you see someone being pre-protted, you merely switch targets. It is also a very effective way to kill some kiting, and increase your overall match dps. should try it, tis fun. Just remem kids, Addren spikes r 4 newbs ;). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 00:23, 19 July 2007 (CEST)


 * oook,i see where you are coming from, but after all my vote was still high, i know the build's good at pressure. just found it odd you'd strike my vote just because i like sticking on the same target: i know the build very well, and i actually played it a lot. anyway spike>pressure. lol --Morten 14:25, 19 July 2007 (CEST)
 * um could i ask you to check a vote in my build ? tycn seems to assume i rely completely on a destruction spirit, when i covered a whole section of usage to describe a spike which doesnt require a spirit. however i am not requiring you to strike it. thats completely up to you of course. i settled this with the author of the comment, so nevermind and thanks anyway. --Morten 14:41, 19 July 2007 (CEST)

scythe sins
I don't like the idea either, but it works in pve. Don't pester anyone about it, everyone knows you dislike it already. - Auron 06:38, 20 July 2007 (CEST)

...
Yeah is that really an appropriate reason to strike out my vote? Grow up Readem, Cya Pvxwiki. Much better places... Six 05:00, 21 July 2007 (CEST)

Who r u? <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 18:05, 21 July 2007 (CEST)
 * How about you "suck less" Readem. ^^ Bai bai now. I gots to go own them HB Balanced sins with mah Mesmer. ^^ Ciao. Six 06:19, 22 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Your vote didn't make any sense, by the way. --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me 07:54, 22 July 2007 (CEST)

At this point I am just going to point out that your customer service ability has just driven one person away from the wiki. With better social interactions messages like these would never appear on your user space. This is an issue, and don't tell me that, "Well, we don't need them here anyway." Bad attitude bro. Im not pulling this out of my but just to but heads with you. Take a minute and try and see that your constant behavior is not appreciated or deemed acceptable to many, and the above will become more frequent the longer you persist in you method of handleing people. <font face="arial" color="Green">Shireen sysop  07:26, 22 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Don't care sorry :/. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 20:47, 23 July 2007 (CEST)

Yo
Check it out please:Dark0805|Rant 19:38, 21 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Done gogogo. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 20:49, 23 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Thanks. I feel bad though i wasnt asking to cancel out bad votes. A review woulda been fine lol. But thanks. Its annoying for once the build i post doesnt feel halfassed and yet rapta comes to ruin my fun.Dark0805|Rant 21:07, 23 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Rapta ruins fun for all :P. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 21:08, 23 July 2007 (CEST)
 * I hear he 1v1ed fun and beat him with echo mending.Dark0805|Rant 21:41, 23 July 2007 (CEST)

ARCHIVE
PLZKTHX -- Armond Warblade 06:02, 23 July 2007 (CEST)


 * WARNING: This page is 118 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections.  —ǥȓɩηɔɧ 〚₮/ḉ〛 06:22, 23 July 2007 (CEST)


 * dont do it readem, dont be a conformist! - <font color="#336666">Skakid9090 06:41, 23 July 2007 (CEST)

Users
Hi, just wanted to let you know that I told sorry to Six guy who is quited b/o you. On our wiki there is place for everyone and administrators sould be a very last reason of b/c people leave. And maybe you think some people are bad in PvP (hell I never done HoH) - I am good at something else. I do understand that you have passion for the game and that you do know a lot, but you are administrator you are here to make sure that all people play nicely and dont kill each other. Comments like "What do people not understand, about "I have played this game, way the fuck more then you have."?" and "sux less" is not a style for admin. If I "worked" out my issues with Sefre so can you with almost any user. Just a reminder from me to you gcardinal 00:32, 24 July 2007 (CEST)
 * I don't even know what vote six is talking about man :/... <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 02:04, 24 July 2007 (CEST)


 * I've spoken with you on several occasions and I have documentation that shows you complete lack of regard for the user base here on the wiki. I've tried to bring it up to you quietly, and later forcefully with you in private.  This is my public statement, "I do not wish you to be an Administator."  This is a serious issue.  One on one, as a person, you a great guy.  But you lack leadership qualities and the maturity necessary to warrant continuation in an administrative role here on the wiki.  I don't need to say anything more to you as we have allready had our discussion two weeks ago and it did not phase you.  You did this to yourself.  <font face="arial" color="Green">Shireen  sysop  00:39, 24 July 2007 (CEST)
 * I know your views Shireen. I have them documented on my labtop. Now please refrain from trying to change my views/opinions. Accept my differences, or don't associate with me. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 02:05, 24 July 2007 (CEST)


 * I do not try to associate with you. I AM associated with you with OUR titles as syops.  I have no problems with your decisions or your contributions.  It is how you handle people Raedem.  Plain and simple.  And as you ask, "Do not associate with me,"  Thats what I am trying to do.  Remove the title that gives us association. <font face="arial" color="Green">Shireen  sysop  05:52, 24 July 2007 (CEST)

On notice
This is your... warning? Nah, just a friendly reminder to chill out and remember your responsibilities as a sysop here. Stuff like this isn't acceptable... ever. When I chatted with you on MSN about it, you shrugged it off; it isn't a laughing matter. Please take your role here more seriously, or risk losing it. - Auron 00:59, 24 July 2007 (CEST)
 * I know, I said it wouldn't happen again remem? <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 02:06, 24 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Actually, it is a few topics up from this one, where I apoligized ;). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 02:07, 24 July 2007 (CEST)

Just a Note
At the least, contact people about votes you choose to remove. That's all I think you should improve of yourself. (and to be honest, I wouldn't have contacted people about votes I removed until just recently. I wouldn't have even thought about it.)  Anyways, I don't agree with any form of Demotion at this time. ‽<font color=#C60000>-(єяøηħ) no u 03:49, 24 July 2007 (CEST)

Block
I know I've unblocked myself before, I assume Readem can as well, so what's the point of this block? - <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman    05:46, 24 July 2007 (CEST)


 * symbolic imo. - <font color="#336666">Skakid9090 05:50, 24 July 2007 (CEST)


 * If users believe I am too harsh, then Auron and I have come to a resolusion that will please all involved. ttyl. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 07:52, 24 July 2007 (CEST)

Hi
Hi m8, I am sorry to see that discussion about you went that far. I hope we can work out all the issue if there is any. Get on MSN when you can and say hi :) gcardinal 06:30, 24 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Hi I got a strange msg from you when you say ttyl. And I replied right away but you was instantly offline? gcardinal 03:43, 26 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Hmmm :/. A tad strange, speaking I was on for an hour or more :P. I'll try again later, after I finish my appointments. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 18:48, 26 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Still waiting for yo... gcardinal 00:37, 27 July 2007 (CEST)
 * At school atm, sorry :P. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 00:38, 27 July 2007 (CEST)
 * I am still waiting for a chance to chat with you. Please leave me a msg when you are online on msn so we can talk. gcardinal 09:45, 1 August 2007 (CEST)
 * When can I expect to see you online? I have been waiting for 5+ days to talk to you. wasup? gcardinal 15:49, 1 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Dude, I have been on multiple times lol :P. Ask Auron, or even DE. I am just probably in a strange time zone for you lulz :P. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 19:50, 1 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Again just add a MSG to my talk page next time you are on. I would remind you that I told you not to rate any builds until admins can have a discussion according you and your behavior - I see that you ignoring my warnings and I have been trying to talk to you for almost a week now. This is a last warning - stop removing any ratings until we have a admin meting. gcardinal 22:52, 1 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Errm people have asked me to do those. I have not removed any, that have not been brought to my attention. It is not my fault G, if we are on completely different timezones, and I am on vacation, and I am going to school. Again, what left is their to talk about? O.o <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 23:53, 1 August 2007 (CEST)
 * I have been online all that time, since my last msg - you have not been online on MSN, yet you find time to remove another rating. I told you that it was a last warning not to remove any ratings and yet you do so again? I don't understand do you want me to permanent ban you from this site? I gave you last warning and you don't care at all? What kind of attitude is that? Why do I have to waste my time on removing your rollback's in mysql?
 * If you: remove a rating, rate a build, enter any discussion on any build's talk page before admin's meeting this weekend you will be permanently banned from this wiki for ever.
 * This is your very last warning, and don't come back telling me I didnt gave you any. If you made a mess, be a man and answer for your actions. Stop playing around, I don't have time for any babysitting. gcardinal 01:41, 2 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Wth...? I haven't done anything but positively contribute since the whole debate O.o? Go ahead and look at my talk page even. I can get on right now, but you need to act in a more responsible manner my friend, and realize that I have done nothing wrong since. Now please, be the respectable individual I know you can be, and speak openly with me. Do not insult me, with very little reason. I have a life, I go to school! If I am unable to reach you, or vice-versa then that must be taken into account. I am in California, and you are pretty much on the otherside of the world. Either accept this, or our conversation must be kept on-hold until the meeting with the rest of the admins. Do you agree to such terms? <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 01:48, 2 August 2007 (CEST)
 * I and Auron gave you a warning - that was very clear. We was agreed that you will stay away from rating and or removing ratings. I don't care for what reason you rated or removed - warning was given multiple times and you don't care at all. For good reason or for bad reason - you currently don't have right to rate or remove any ratings. And you will stay way from rating's and discussing anything on any build's talk page until admin's meeting. If you rate anything for any reason you will be banned.
 * And just for the record I chat both with Auron, Armond and DE without any problems. If you find time to do something you don't have permission for then you have time to get online on MSN. gcardinal 01:54, 2 August 2007 (CEST)
 * I apologize GC, but you continue to resist reason. In its stead, you act irrationally and are irresponsible. I have no time for childish arguments, and neither do you. Take this time, to reconsider your actions and responsibilities to this wiki. Have a good day, and best of wishes Gcardinal!  <font color="Black">Readem  (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 02:26, 2 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Sorry if this ain't my place to comment but just what the FUCK is going on here? Threatening to ban Readem when all he does is make constructive edits? No, really, what the FUCK is going on on this wiki lately? Man this is some confusing shit. Either that or I can't understand anything when I'm stoned x/ <font color=#ff0000>Napalm Flame  ^_^ [[Image:Napalm_Flame_Sig_Image.JPG‎]] <font color=#0000ff>(talk)·(contributions) 02:38, 2 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Many of his edits, even if we is correct in removing them, involve very immature and often insulting comments towards the user in question, some of whom are honestly voicing their opinions on it. His conduct when dealing with others is very immature and to be honest, he doesn't appear to be qualified to be an admin, despite his playing experience.  He can contribute with equal efficency as a user, and we won't have to deal with his crap. Bob fregman 19:29, 2 August 2007 (CEST)
 * No offense m8, but you are highly out of place to say anything of the sort. You rarely contribute, and have no idea what we are even talking about. I would appreciate you leave this between me and GC :). Ty. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 19:57, 2 August 2007 (CEST)
 * I know, your a great contributor and i wouldnt take that away from you, but your people skills are lacking. For example what you just said sums it up fairly well, using your contributions and position and holding it over the head of someone else to prove a point(on a wiki nonetheless) is not proper behavior for an admin, imho of course.  Not to mention thatmy contributions are totally irelevant in this case, since someone just reading all the articles and never posting could notice it.  Thats it, im done, i just wanted to provide a counter-point to Napalm.Bob fregman 01:35, 3 August 2007 (CEST)
 * I think you'd have had a stronger point had you said it before Readem became a nice friendly carebear(kidding, but, yeah... he suddenly stopped being a blunt offensive helpful person and became a nice, friendly, helpful person). --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me 01:42, 3 August 2007 (CEST)

Check your GWiki talk page
Left a question for you on there thinking I was on PvX. I'm guessing you're more active here though, so thought I'd give you a heads up on this talk page. &mdash; Hyperion` // talk 05:17, 25 July 2007 (CEST)


 * Sorry mate, been on vacation. Will check. (Yay, by hitting keyboard with hammer, it is working better!) <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 02:36, 26 July 2007 (CEST)

Images
Do you happen to know the copy writes of the new Gwen Skill images? (Also, talk page too big, I start leave messages at top. 2 lazy 2 scrol)  ‽ -(єяøηħ)  no u 05:12, 27 July 2007 (CEST)
 * guild shack. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 05:51, 27 July 2007 (CEST)
 * ? I mean can I upload them for my own use until they get BBcoded (which will prolly be sometime after they 31st next month) ‽ -(єяøηħ)  no u 05:52, 27 July 2007 (CEST)


 * Oh, well give credit to GWW. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 05:54, 27 July 2007 (CEST)

Build Rating
'''WARNING: This page is 128 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections.''' Are We allowed to rate our own builds as seen here? User:Skakid9090 made this build and appears to voting on all the builds he created. If this isn't in policy it should be. Regardless if he had good intentions users will always favor there build and give positive reviews for it. -- <font color=Blue>Metal Enchantment  (talk · contributions) 20:50, 27 July 2007 (CEST)

It is allowed, in the current vetting system. We just hope for the best, and see what happens. If the vote is obviously biased, then it shall be removed. Otherwise, we just let the general userbase unfavor it for themselves. Perhaps in the future, we shall make such a transition, but for now users may vote for their own builds. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 20:56, 27 July 2007 (CEST)

OK thanks for the info.-- <font color=Blue>Metal Enchantment  (talk · contributions) 20:58, 27 July 2007 (CEST)

5000
1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9/10/11/12/13/14/15

Build Box
way not to capitilize the 2nd words nub. &mdash; RAWR! <font color="#336666">Skakid9090  04:15, 30 July 2007 (CEST)
 * I did. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 04:21, 30 July 2007 (CEST)

Help me
Help me with making this build better, please? --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me 06:11, 30 July 2007 (CEST)

Question
I was checking out some trial war builds and on one: Whats wrogn with EP i use it and i wanna know what i am doing wrong? Its excellent when the hits are coming hard and fast, and you need to get out.Dark0805|Rant 23:07, 30 July 2007 (CEST)
 * "Endure pain... lulz-Readem"

It has to do with the unreliabilty of Endure Pain. Also, the Endure Pain glitch is annoying at times. However, if one was able to keep endure pain up indefinately, it would most certainly be worth using, as there would be no risks, and you could also run all sups, as it would subsidize their costs. Generally, keep in mind, that just having a high reg health rate and Heal Sig, is generally a better idea :). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 23:19, 30 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Glitch? Never heard of a endure pain glitch. And of course, i know its not a viable heal... but i always though of it as the warrios feigned neutrality.Dark0805|Rant 23:33, 30 July 2007 (CEST)
 * The glitch is that fact you die when you use heal sig, and are at neg health. I like just Mending touch, and heal sig on my war for PvE. Then I just let my SoR hero do the rest ;). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 23:36, 30 July 2007 (CEST)

Votes
Hi, Readem. I was wondering if you could check out a rating or two and see if it could be removed? Thanks. ,
 * Sure, I'll take a look. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 03:57, 31 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Hm, some of the votes did have rather valid points my friend. Mind if I take a look, and see what I can do? <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 04:03, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

If you wouldn't mind. I completely rebuilt my D/ Rt Splintering DW Dervish and taged it as trial. I'd like to start with a clean slate if I could? Greevar 04:00, 31 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Ok. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 04:00, 31 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Done. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 04:02, 31 July 2007 (CEST)


 * Thanks much! Greevar 04:08, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

You, actually
I know you probably strongly dislike me right now, but I do want to say this. From what I've been seeing, you have been awesome lately. If there was a vote, I would probably say give you another chance. I didn't want it to have to come to this, but it seemed the only way for anything to change, which I'm glad to see has been for the better. I've always respected your knowledge of Guild Wars, just wasn't too happy on some of your acts. Keep up the good work. Bluemilkman 06:05, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

Erm, Auron just told me I was being a dick, so I stopped. I am still pissed about that "Demotion" campaign tho >.>. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 08:59, 31 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Hang on, what the FUCK happened here? Tell me all on my talk page please? I'm ill-informed. <font color=#ff0000>Napalm Flame  ^_^ [[Image:Napalm_Flame_Sig_Image.JPG‎]] <font color=#0000ff>(talk)·(contributions) 02:31, 2 August 2007 (CEST)

Well night guys
Ttyl. Just wanted to ask before I go to sleep, but how does the check user function work. I would appreciate it if someone enlighten me :). Ty. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 09:01, 31 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Click on this link for starters. Once there, put the user name into the User box, and it will display his/her IP. Put the IP into the IP box to check which accounts have been accessed from that IP, and what they have contributed. It's pretty simple; doesn't take long to become proficient with it. Have a good night. :-) - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   09:05, 31 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Aww, very nice. ty. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 09:07, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

Bad Rating == ==

Hello again Readem. This user,asdfg, has been to many of my builds and gave it stupid low ratings. Could you remove one from this build for me, thankyou ur awesome. .

--Victoryisyours 16:12, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

Hm, I think I should help you on this one, see my response on the talk page. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 18:04, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

Removing my rating makes me sad. :( Asdfg 18:12, 31 July 2007 (CEST)
 * errr, I didn't. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 18:13, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

I must have moved this to testing and completely forgot. Apperently it was still a /necro at the begining of it's test's and has votes based off that. Could you purge the votes that vote on it's /necroness? ‽ -(єяøηħ) no u 17:41, 31 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Done. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 18:02, 31 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Cool. I just figured rollback any that mentioned Necro and stuff. but that works too. ‽ -(єяøηħ)  no u 18:08, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

Thankyou readem, i would like to have the ratings remove and taken back to trial phase.--Victoryisyours 20:09, 31 July 2007 (CEST)


 * ok, np. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 20:11, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

Could you take a look at the new changes? It looks great!--Victoryisyours 21:33, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

139 kilobytes...
remove the 0-0-0 vote plz &mdash; RAWR! <font color="#336666">Skakid9090  20:59, 31 July 2007 (CEST)
 * done. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 21:01, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

I have to take this build under construction and change some stuff to it. Could i get a clean slate please? Thankyou.--Victoryisyours 21:48, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

Ok. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 01:44, 1 August 2007 (CEST)

You posted on my user page, May I take some artistic license for you build? (Spear Chucker:Fix it a bit). What do you mean?--Victoryisyours 02:26, 1 August 2007 (CEST)

My Userpage
Thanks for fixing the communist thing!!!Belgianbronco 22:20, 1 August 2007 (CEST)

Hey again Readem, can you check out a new build i submitted and tell me what you think.--Victoryisyours 00:21, 2 August 2007 (CEST)

Sure :). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 00:24, 2 August 2007 (CEST)

MSN
I would appreciate it if you were to pass my MSN around to the other sysops. It's gamefreak229@hotmail.com

And by the way, you look like you are in need of an archive soon xP <font color=#ff0000>Napalm Flame  ^_^  <font color=#0000ff>(talk)·(contributions) 01:43, 2 August 2007 (CEST)


 * He was in need of an archive a month ago.  —ǥȓɩηɔɧ 〚₮/ḉ〛 01:46, 2 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Only that recently? --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me 01:48, 2 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Holy shit, 104 sections. THIS NEEDS ARCHIVING NOW! *stamp* <font color=#ff0000>Napalm Flame  ^_^ [[Image:Napalm_Flame_Sig_Image.JPG‎]] <font color=#0000ff>(talk)·(contributions) 01:55, 2 August 2007 (CEST)

Warn the Russian Spies!
I dislike Russians. I throw Russians off of boats. Hah, some cocky abusive little RUS shit decided to get mouthy to me coming back from a boat trip. He was like 'Do you wanna go for a swim? Shut the f*ck up you stupid f*cking English piece of sh*t!' So I gave him my 'THIS IS SPARTA!' treatment and kicked him overboard. Man, I feel so proud. <font color=#ff0000>Napalm Flame  ^_^ <font color=#0000ff>(talk)·(contributions) 01:58, 2 August 2007 (CEST)
 * umm.. wtf? --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me 02:02, 2 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Yeah, every Russian I've known has been an arsehole so now I have a negative image of Russians firmly imprinted in my mind. And that's not the first time I kicked that Russian into the sea. That was the 7th. Ooh, he was such a little dick head. <font color=#ff0000>Napalm Flame  ^_^ [[Image:Napalm_Flame_Sig_Image.JPG‎]] <font color=#0000ff>(talk)·(contributions) 02:04, 2 August 2007 (CEST)


 * ... i can't tell if he's serious. <font color="#336666">Skakid9090 02:05, 2 August 2007 (CEST)
 * First of all, I find it strange that you can get an edit conflict typing the exact same message up, but w/e. Secondly, you know GCardinal, the site founder, is Russian, yes? - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   02:06, 2 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Well I never knew he was Russian, that's the FIRST Russian person that I have know that hasn't been an arse. Seriously, the FIRST. And yes, I'm serious, they pissed me off big time on holiday and nearly ruined it. Good thing is, I gave one of them what he had coming. <font color=#ff0000>Napalm Flame  ^_^ [[Image:Napalm_Flame_Sig_Image.JPG‎]] <font color=#0000ff>(talk)·(contributions) 02:08, 2 August 2007 (CEST)


 * I'm russian. Parents were born in the Soviet Union and everything. Mother from Moscow, father from Leningrad. WHAT NOW!!?  —ǥȓɩηɔɧ 〚₮/ḉ〛 19:53, 2 August 2007 (CEST)


 * Grinch is one of the best, friendliest players of this game. So there for russians! [[Image:User Frvwfr2 signature.jpg|User:Frvwfr2]] <font color=#6e8b3d>frvwfr2  (talk · contributions) 20:02, 2 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Just remember Napalm, that sterio-types should generally be avoided. The few you met, were probably just exceptions to the rule :). Grinch is not bad, right ;)? <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 20:07, 2 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Exactly, and if you disagree, I'll torture you till you do. don't.  —ǥȓɩηɔɧ 〚₮/ḉ〛 02:02, 3 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Heh, that sentence may not have been worded quite right, since currently it equates to "if you disagree, I'll torture you until you disagree". --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me 02:07, 3 August 2007 (CEST)

Triple Bond Mels
I heard of a build called Triple Bond Melandrus. Not on here or crapshack. What is it?  —ǥȓɩηɔɧ 〚₮/ḉ〛 04:26, 3 August 2007 (CEST)

EDIT: Figured I'd ask you since you've HAd alot.  —ǥȓɩηɔɧ 〚₮/ḉ〛 04:29, 3 August 2007 (CEST)
 * It's a GvG build that iQ made, it used a life barrier runner, three mels dervs and other superpowered shit. It was made to roll teams in 2 minutes or lose the game... most teams got rolled in two minutes, though :p - Auron 04:32, 3 August 2007 (CEST)


 * Why does no one have a copy? If its so superpowered, PvX should get a page for it.  —ǥȓɩηɔɧ 〚₮/ḉ〛 04:36, 3 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Mostly because it requires so much skill. Merely coping the bars would do nobody any good. - Auron 04:41, 3 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Yeah I HA some, but not seriously (My friends joke about HA). I haven't been in a PvP Guild for a couple of months. However, I still guest frequently :). For HA things, I would usually ask Auron, as he will not only be right, he'll rank flash you in the same process ;) (He cares more about HA then I do :P) Also, if you want an example, just look in my Build box at a version my friends guild ran the day before I left on vaca. We did more of a QQ Anti-melee thing though -2 hexers (iQ prefers only 1, and a tainter) <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 04:42, 3 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Well, we already have the flagger posted. It is a ship out of water without the rest of the build, if anyone knows of it, would you help post it here as well? All I know of it is 3 Mel Dervs with SoH/JI and the Life Barrier flagger with no speed boost. - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   05:00, 3 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Read my comment aboe Krow Man ;). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 05:13, 3 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Also, it generally includes 4 Monks/3 AoMs/ and 1 iQ Tainter. We just ran it with added hex pressure. We got rolled once, but won 3 times just fyi (unranked ftw!) <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 05:17, 3 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Oh, ok thank you. And duh. >.< I'll see if anything is posted on Guru and hassle Auron. - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   05:19, 3 August 2007 (CEST)
 * There's a thread about it on Guru. I think Auron posted a link to a post in the thread on the Life Barrier runner's talk. --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me 05:28, 3 August 2007 (CEST)
 * This one? - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   05:31, 3 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Meh, no point Krowman. You can't copy unless you are actually good. And no, this is not just my opinion. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 06:00, 3 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Have a look here. Soon everyone and their dog will be copy-catting it (/sniff FoTM...), we can beat them to the punch and post it here. Help solidify our status as a serious Builds site, not just an extension of GWiki's disaster. - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   07:21, 3 August 2007 (CEST)

guys...
i smel liek poo <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">contribs ) 05:34, 3 August 2007 (CEST)


 * You can take a shower.  —ǥȓɩηɔɧ 〚₮/ḉ〛 05:36, 3 August 2007 (CEST)
 * lawl Skak. Btw, it takes forever to load this page, archive please. - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   05:40, 3 August 2007 (CEST)
 * That's why there's a policy being voted on right now :D  —ǥȓɩηɔɧ 〚₮/ḉ〛 05:42, 3 August 2007 (CEST)

Archive:Team - TA Balanced
HOW DARE YOU TANTALIZE ME WITH YOUR EDITS, THIS MEANS WAR! <font color="#336666">Skakid9090 07:17, 3 August 2007 (CEST)
 * DO NOT WORRY SKAKID, THAT IS JUST THE OPPOSITE OF MY INTENTIONS. LET US CONTINUE WRITING IN BOLD CAPS, AS IT IS GUD, NO? <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 07:48, 4 August 2007 (CEST)


 * WUT?! &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Skakid9090 (contribs) . 07:50, 4 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Mommy!  --  Nova  [[Image:Jirouji-Nova.jpg]] --  (contribs) 21:43, 4 August 2007 (CEST)
 * lol, cannot even post on my own page in IE lulz... <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 05:23, 5 August 2007 (CEST)

RE: Banning of User:He opened me wide
Just for clarification purposes, may I ask why you banned that user hours after he had received a warning from me? Both instances of "vandalism," the vandalism of the template, and then the vote, which was at the very least immature if not outright vandalism, were reviewed by me (he was warned about the template by me, and then I removed the vote and he was warned again by Wyvern before I had the chance to do so). Given that, and given the fact that in general, the right to punish is deferred to the first Admin on scene, what prompted you to ban the user? *Defiant Elements*  +talk  05:46, 5 August 2007 (CEST)
 * He repeatedly acted in an immature fashion. We as Administrators, can in no way support such childish behavior. In my views, Vandalism insults not only my intelligence, but also the wiki's as a whole. Even the Users name, was inappropriate; do you not agree? Hopefully the user will take this time to evaluate what he/she has done, and reconsider when the next opportunity arises. Hopefully, you took no offense the placement of the ban. If it so matters, you may adjust the ban as you see fit. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 06:14, 5 August 2007 (CEST)
 * It's not necessarily that I disagree with the ban. Merely that I feel that a couple of instances (particularly since they'd stopped long before you banned him) don't necessarily qualify him for a ban.  Besides, you're on... thin ice... shall we say at the moment, so I was surprised that you felt the need to ban him after he'd already been warned.  [[Image:Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  06:19, 5 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Get on MSN plz. gcardinal 06:20, 5 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Probably not a bad idea Readem. [[Image:Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  06:23, 5 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Damn you guys choose bad timing...I have ten minutes? Maybe less, that enough? <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 06:25, 5 August 2007 (CEST)

Signing your comments
How do you make your standard signature have a certain color/style with a little picture next to it?--Victoryisyours 01:34, 6 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Special:Preferences, put the wikicode for your custom signature into Nickname and check the raw signatures (without automatic link). --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me 01:40, 6 August 2007 (CEST)

Thanks! Ok how do i make a little picture next to it?-- Victoryisyours 02:09, 6 August 2007 (CEST)


 * Use the image tag coding stuff (yeah!). Check out the coding on User:Armond/Signature for some ideas. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 02:34, 6 August 2007 (CEST)

How do i get my own unique image no1 else has used?-- Victoryisyours 04:08, 6 August 2007 (CEST)


 * Upload it at Special:Upload. --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me 04:21, 6 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Thanks guys. Also, if you have any more questions, feel free to ask :). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 05:18, 6 August 2007 (CEST)

How do i make the image smaller? I mean look at what it looks like right now. -- Victoryisyours 15:56, 6 August 2007 (CEST)


 * That image is too large. It violates our signature policy. Make it smaller by putting a pixel number after it, example: [[image:Victory_is_Mine!_.jpg‎|12px]]  —ǥȓɩηɔɧ 〚₮/ḉ〛 16:32, 6 August 2007 (CEST)

Thanks all i have a signature now =p-- Victoryisyours 16:42, 6 August 2007 (CEST)


 * You may want to check PvX:SIGN to see how large that picture of yours can be. In general, you should familiarize yourself with the policies and the rules here on PvXwiki. To see the policies and rules, go to PvXwiki:Policy.  —ǥȓɩηɔɧ 〚₮/ḉ〛 16:46, 6 August 2007 (CEST)


 * Thanks. I think my picture is small enough though now.--[[image:Victory_is_Mine!_.jpg‎|12px]] Victoryisyours 18:27, 6 August 2007 (CEST)


 * Oh, I meant make it a little larger.  —ǥȓɩηɔɧ 〚₮/ḉ〛 19:08, 6 August 2007 (CEST)

Lol its at 12 px right now. What should it be?-- Victoryisyours 19:46, 6 August 2007 (CEST)

How is this? Is this a good size?-- Victoryisyours 19:48, 6 August 2007 (CEST)

Yep, just fine :). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 19:52, 6 August 2007 (CEST)

Sweetness thankyou all!-- Victoryisyours 19:55, 6 August 2007 (CEST)

lolol at game balance
'''Well the idea was to create a Hex in and out type of teleport, I do question the high recharge I don't think any of the 45s recharge skills get much use. The deepwound is odd, You can make some fun builds without Twisting because of this, but I do agree the numbers a bit off. It's fun when used with shatter delusions, as you can control when you leave. I think the numbers just need tweaking I mean if this had 0 recharge it would be insane. Clearly there is a number between 0-45 that is correct. ~Izzy @-' 01:34, 25 July 2007 (UTC)''' ''':Why would this be fun with Shatter Delusions? =P Mikey 01:54, 25 July 2007 (UTC)'''



lololol, Izzy you never fail to amaze me. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 00:29, 7 August 2007 (CEST)
 * This is win, tbh. Izzy needs to play more, imo, and to be less out of touch with the game. I think that he could actually balance the game pretty well, if he did so. --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me 00:39, 7 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Sorry Edru, he is busy atm playing WoW. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 00:43, 7 August 2007 (CEST)
 * No, he isn't. He's playing Fury beta, atm. --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me 00:44, 7 August 2007 (CEST)

Yeah, that was pretty funny.  —ǥȓɩηɔɧ 〚₮/ḉ〛 00:35, 7 August 2007 (CEST)
 * That is sad. :( Asdfg 00:39, 7 August 2007 (CEST)
 * I know, it is. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 00:43, 7 August 2007 (CEST)

Is not RV1
It's GW:1RV, not GW:RV1 --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me 01:40, 7 August 2007 (CEST)
 * I know m8, changed it already :). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 01:49, 7 August 2007 (CEST)

:)
Let's see how badly Anet ruined the game, shall we? <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 02:19, 8 August 2007 (CEST)


 * How do you mean?  —ǥȓɩηɔɧ 〚₮/ḉ〛 02:21, 8 August 2007 (CEST)
 * What did they do this time? --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me 02:21, 8 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Err, I am just seeing what changed since I left :). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 02:22, 8 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Who cares, tbh? --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me 02:24, 8 August 2007 (CEST)
 * O.O Did Izzy start playing GW again? There are some pretty good changes in there. --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me  23:09, 9 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Most of those came from his underpowered/overpowered section. I like some of them, but I'll miss the imba of Aegis.  —ǥȓɩηɔɧ 〚₮/ḉ〛 23:42, 9 August 2007 (CEST)
 * I love GPS buff, Guardian buff, BL buff(even if it won't really do much), and the hex changes, also the remove hex buff, because I no longer feel tainted by having it unlocked... Some other stuff was nice, I think, but I don't remember what. --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me 23:59, 9 August 2007 (CEST)
 * I have the feeling that Reckless haste got a buff, the rit spells will never ever see any use, Blessed Light needs a Heal buff nod a recharge buff and that Melandru still isnt fixed and will get stronger as there are less hexes. Same goes for Rampage as One.Asdfg 00:29, 10 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Ancestor's Rage was used a lot, but it still sucks to see it nerfed :( Sshaun007 11:59, 12 August 2007 (CEST)

RecCha
"# (Deletion log); 11:07 . . Readem (Talk | contribs | block) (deleted "Build talk:N/Me FoC Spiker": content was: '#REDIRECT Build talk:N/Me FoC Necro' (and the only contributor was 'Skakid9090'))"

"# (Deletion log); 11:07 . . Krowman (Talk | contribs | block) (deleted "Build talk:N/Me FoC Spiker": content was: '#REDIRECT Build talk:N/Me FoC Necro' (and the only contributor was 'Skakid9090'))"
 * Didn't even know that was possible until now. I feel guilty about posting here and making your page even more difficult to load though. :-) - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   20:10, 8 August 2007 (CEST)

I noticed that too...creepy as hell O.o... <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 20:14, 8 August 2007 (CEST)

Dumb question...
This is going to be a really dumb question, but since I just joined here (been visiting for a while) I'm still hunting for the information on how to go about submitting a new build to the site. I'd rather do it the right way the first time, but since builds are tested and such I wasn't sure exactly what I needed to do first. It's a Wiki, but a bit different than what I'm used to. :) ~  J.Kougar   02:22, 11 August 2007 (CEST)
 * PvXwiki:Style and formatting  —ǥȓɩηɔɧ 〚₮/ḉ〛 02:24, 11 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Grinch resolved the issue, I see. Ty Grinch. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 02:32, 11 August 2007 (CEST)

Merge
Ah I see. That would be good. Sorry for the harsh comments... Matti Nuke 03:16, 11 August 2007 (CEST)

Np, happens to everyone. Tell me what you think is vitally important in your build, and I'll add it Skak's for you. Then people will vote (most likely favor), and then both of you can take credit for it, if you want. No reason to be upset, over silly things such as builds m8 ;). Well, I hope you continue to contribute the wiki, and enjoy doing so. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 03:22, 11 August 2007 (CEST)

Archive:P/Mo Energy Support Paragon
Why did you remove my vote from that build? - Auron 16:25, 12 August 2007 (CEST)

You gave no reason, other than "What" =). If I must give acceptable reasons for my actions, I sure the hell am bringing everyone else with me ;). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 18:48, 12 August 2007 (CEST)
 * You really need to re-think your role here. "If I must give acceptable reasons for my actions, I sure the hell am bringing everyone else with me" is a very poor attitude to have. - Auron 06:22, 13 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Saying, "Umm....what?" is a poor excuse for a vote regardless. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 17:56, 13 August 2007 (CEST)
 * I think you missed the point. - Auron 04:17, 14 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Everyone is held to the same standards, even you Auron :). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 04:27, 14 August 2007 (CEST)

Real Vetting
I am sorry but you will have to rollback edit you made to the real vetting policy. Such big change must be discussed before being added to a official policy. The minimal here will be to post changes on the talk page, inform all admin about the ongoing discussion and when the discussion is over changes can be added. Even we had a brief discussion on this subject other users and admins must have the say before making change official. Please rollback and start a discussion. gcardinal 19:07, 13 August 2007 (CEST)

Very well :). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 19:18, 13 August 2007 (CEST)

Could you have a look please
in build user moonspell gave a triple 5 with no viable reason. --Morten 20:37, 13 August 2007 (CEST)


 * Done. I will remove tomorrow, if no return answer. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 01:08, 14 August 2007 (CEST)

When you get a chance...
Please review this when you get a chance. If you have any questions/comments/concerns, I'll be on MSN for a while... or you can leave a note on the policy talk page, my talk page, etc. Thanks in advance. *Defiant Elements*  +talk  23:16, 15 August 2007 (CEST)

Saying words other then "Heh", would be a nice change in pace ;). <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 05:19, 16 August 2007 (CEST)

Archive:P/Mo Energy Support Paragon
Hey buddy. I'm really pressing to have that GvG tag brought down from this build. Even though the discussion at that page got a little sidetracked, I was wondering if you had any objections (since the debate is pretty much you vs. Auron and a few). My reasoning is basically, when was the last time you saw a battery in GvG? I don't recall one since the Energizing Finale balancing. I figure that it would be right to have that as a GvG build when people actually start running batteries there, but right now, no one runs any kind of battery (that, BiP, etc), so we shouldn't be recommending it alongside some of the other, more verifiable GvG builds in our Good/Great cats. I've posted a bit over there that you may not have read yet, but atm, do you have any objections? Thanks in advance. - <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman    07:22, 16 August 2007 (CEST)


 * I already told Auron on MSN, I defended it because of the low innovation scores. Don't mind at all. And the last time I saw a battery was Cry vs vD with a P/N BiP. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 23:31, 16 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Ok, thanks. - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   23:34, 16 August 2007 (CEST)

Nice spider pig?
Heya, can you be nice and just look at this ha build and tell me if u see something that u maybe can improve. Maybe change the paragorn to some other profession/build wich benefit synergy more.(It's bonding will only be on the monks) thx in advance. (if u do it)

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/User:Fish Fish 15:52, 16 August 2007 (CEST)
 * I don't think Readem likes going over HA builds. He thinks GvG is the highest form of PvP. <font color="Orange">Misfate [[Image:Daipenmon.jpg|50x19px]] 16:18, 16 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Okay, but for some with a guild that can't play gvg it's kinda hard >.>, but ty for telling me Fish 17:03, 16 August 2007 (CEST)
 * I don't mind. I dislike HA, merely for its lack of gimmick build balance, and players who think they are good (When in all reality they can't go without Channeling). ALso, they use staffs which sucks. If Izzy would lrn2balance then I would have no problem with HA. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 23:42, 16 August 2007 (CEST)
 * But staffs are great for 15^50 wand sets for casters. +60 hp and 15^50 on the same weaponset. Hax, imo. --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me 23:51, 16 August 2007 (CEST)