Archive talk:W/N Quivering Blade

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Click Quivering Blade in the skill bar... wtf is that? frvwfr2  (talk · contributions) 21:17, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

as the orignal creator of this build, can I rate it? I see nothing on the policy page about a user rating their own builds either. Soqed hozi 19:26, 15 July 2007 (CEST)

I would switch all the attribute points in Strenght to those in Tactics and take Tiger Stance and Lion's Comfort and no Heal Signet. There you will have better damage cos Strenght activates on every attack skill you use and since Quivering Blade is a spammable attack skill, you can have a very high DPS with that. The more points in Strenght are also good because of Tiger Stance which makes you charge adrenaline faster. And as I also have a Build similar to this and I know how mine works I would change Distracting Blow for "For Great Justice" to charge adrenaline even faster. Zollie 20:35, 24 July 2007 (CEST)

You seem to misunderstand this tho, this is not a spammer, its a low adrenaline deamage dealer. Lions comfort requires adrenaline, but yes i agree its good, but I would also suggest flail despite its adrenaline cost if using strength. In PvE skills that can be used frequently are good, and FGJ just does not fit. DBlow can hel interupt, and if against a blocker, the daze condition can help you cause interupts when your allies are casting spells on the foe and such. If I have any suggestions about the skills here, its sever gash for pure strike and its dupe, this means no bleed or deep wound, but unblockable +damage. Its also energy, which is both a blessign and a curse. Soqed hozi 22:37, 24 July 2007 (CEST)


 * Hamstring instead of Distracting Blow would be a nice touch if you use Flail. Good Adrenaline Gain and slower oponent making the speed recuction of 33% hardly noticable. Also, i usually do take out Heal Sig for Lion's Comfort, I dunno why, but I like it better.Thomas Malakier 05:30, 20 September 2007 (CEST)


 * Pure Strike+Jaizhenju Strike for Sever+Gash seems like a great way to use this build in areas with creatures with no flesh. That should be in the main article! Also, why is "mass blinding" a counter? I just transfer blind onto an enemy.--War Pig5 22:27, 20 January 2008 (EST)

Enraging charge?
Could putting some points into strength and taking enraging charge not also increase the damage output but get past the first obsticle of gaining adrenaline?
 * Needs more strength anyway, and Enraging Charge is very nice. --Edru viransu //QQ about me 01:09, 30 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Yeah, I'd do a 12/10/8 split. - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] Krowman   01:17, 30 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Or just forget about Healsig and Tactics altogether, add Flail and Enraging, put 8 points into curses and the rest into strenght. Asdfg 02:53, 13 August 2007 (CEST)

would barbous (not sure spelling) slice be a better choice than sever artery seeing as you have no stances.Beatifulmage 00:38, 29 November 2007 (CET)

this works too
I use a build liek this, but i use headbutt. just slap a zealous mod on your weapon and BAM! instant anti-caster.
 * And BAAAAAAAAM no energy for anything else. Asdfg 18:05, 13 August 2007 (CEST)


 * not to mention only using it every 20 seconds....this builds pve strength is it can move from target to target quickly, which is a problem with alot of pve builds...Soqed hozi 23:17, 14 August 2007 (CEST)

No pvp tag?
wtf. attribs are shity for pve but this build is once of the only ways to daze a caster as a warrior. 16:34, 18 October 2007 (CEST)
 * Artificial Talent[Art] actually ran this in GvG. Just take out Healsig, Distracting Blow for Frenzy and Rush, and put Bull's Strike in the optional slot. It was actually pretty beast, IMO. Smooths 16:16, 1 January 2008 (EST)

Casters Blocking?
Considering this is a PVE build, just how many casters actually block in PVE for it to be effective? :s Unreal Havoc 05:21, 27 October 2007 (CEST)

thats just dumb. you come against ANY blocking you can plague touch their casters, you can RUN cant you? Soqed hozi 10:34, 28 October 2007 (CET)

Meh
One counter is monks--not theirs, your own team's Monks. It's easy to tell human monks to forget about your conditions, but Heroes are another story; they'll remove your Dazed before you can send it off. And don't say "disable condition removal;" do you really want to micro it when others in your party get conditions? --~ Kuro 06:20, 16 December 2007 (CET)
 * its easy to get off a plague touch if you don't fail at reaction time.-- AESTHE  T  I  C 

"For Great Justice!"
Is good. Although the skills are very low adrenaline costs, you can spam the crap out of QB. I run "FGJ!" with this on Koss and it works quite well. -- Guild of  Deals  10:47, 5 January 2008 (EST)


 * I agree. I run this one my (crappy) warrior and I tend to use FGJ allows for extreme spamming. God  box   08:14, 26 January 2008 (EST)

i agree also!! it would like triple your damage output


 * Thirded! FGJ works pretty decent.  Not sure about the tripling, though. Tool 311 02:34, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Plague Touch buff
Now with 4 in curses, it removes 2 conditions...possible mention in varient section if not a attribute altering i think.Thomas Malakier 01:25, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Lion's Comfort Buff
If i was to run this on a area heavy on block and pesky caster i would replace tactics for strenght put a ias on the optional slot and replace heal sig for lions comfort, after the buff its pretty good as a minor heal w/o drawback (maybe locking your ress) and minor adrenaline gain, putting 11 strenght 6 curse mingh also be a good idea since plague touch could be used as a efficient condition removal and not only to xfer daze 201.92.98.223 15:38, 15 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Agreed, what does everyone think about LC compared to Healsig now for this build? Switch Healsig to LC, switch attribs to (12+1+1 sword/12+1 strength), and stick in Tiger Stance for the optional?

New Variant Addition
--70.129.201.103 21:17, 16 March 2008 (EDT)
 * 1) you misspelled 'Variant'
 * 2) you didn't provide any attribute listings, so if you're using the same attribute listings then you're using Endure Pain with a Strength score of 3.
 * 3) why balanced stance? why not switch the attributes a little and use an IAS?


 * I reverted it. Soqed hozi 11:40, 17 March 2008 (EDT)

Foul Feast
Is used by everyone atm, is plague touch really necessary? I'd rather Foul Feast+Plague Touch. Frans  11:42, 17 March 2008 (EDT)


 * its not used by everbody, its just a glorified, primary attribute, draw conditions. Its good, but not everyone uses it. Plague touch is best. Soqed hozi 18:44, 17 March 2008 (EDT)

Crippling?
Why not have Hamstring so that you can efficiently hit them more and score more energy? and while at that why not change one of the skills to flail so that you can spam quivering blades. They cant run because they got cripple.
 * How about no.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 06:37, 13 April 2008 (EDT)
 * no... lol double fail; sign and just a normal fail. -- Super Igor  06:39, 13 April 2008 (EDT)

Strength
Why cant you just put 12 points into strength and take Lion's Comfort instead of Healing Signet? This will make you deal more damage. Thonyonline 21:07, 3 may 2008 (GMT)
 * Because the spike is fucking outdated. God  box   15:18, 3 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Build* God  box   15:18, 3 May 2008 (EDT)

Archived
Does this mean I can submit an updated version?  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ  15:41, 3 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Why not update this build...? Oh well. God  box   15:58, 3 May 2008 (EDT)
 * I linked it in the new one, so I guess it's alright.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 16:00, 3 May 2008 (EDT)
 * lol, best reason ever. Now I'm gunna go maek a billion dupes and link to old build^^  God  box   16:05, 3 May 2008 (EDT)


 * why is it archived? Its still the bets PvE build out there, and just cus it only needs factions doesnt make it bad. I have allthe campaigns, and I still use this. If you are gunna archive, discuss it first! Soqed hozi 04:20, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Archived does not mean that it cannot be run. Actually, quite a few of the archived builds can still be played to a degree of effectiveness. This build is just outdated and better versions have been written. No one said that it's bad. Just that there's better ones out there now. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 19:09, 4 May 2008 (EDT)


 * I'll believe theres better when I see one that is. Sure, this isnt top cus its had the wiki-treatment of gettign heal sig, but its still the best [on wiki]. Soqed hozi 14:07, 5 May 2008 (EDT)