Archive talk:Team - DoA Glaiveway

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05/01/12
LOL
 * LOL rąʂKƴɖooƿɭɘş 00:29, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * LOL 131.211.26.90 10:19, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Still viable. I took a guild team in earlier and managed a 1h45m run even with two disconnected DwGs. --138.253.87.104 21:40, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Forgot to mention, that's with an extra DwG instead of the as ever pointless SoS and convert + shatter hex on the panic. --138.253.87.104 21:43, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Needs a fixed writeup.
I'm pretty confident I've never seen Glaiveway run in Hm since Frostway started being run... so we could at least drop the MM from the listings. Also we could do with just one Panic Bar, I think the basic is

and either Wastrel's skills or Convert hexes. Also these "glaive tank" bits are just shitty optionals + don't really need a seperate section in writeup. So in short, I'd like to just keep this build to what the meta pug runs, and everything else can fuck off into mini skill bars in the variants or be removed entirely. Chieftain  Alex  23:06, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * IAU should be mainbar on the panic, as should LB signet. rąʂKƴɖooƿɭɘş 00:24, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok. I'm pretty sure the paragons in glaiveway should be using Signet of Aggression + flurry also? (very rare to see burning finale in my minimal experience) [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px|link=User:Chieftain Alex]] Chieftain   Alex  01:00, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it really depends on the person. Burning finale used to be hella meta (back when skilled paras pugged DoASC). Now a days it's all baddies. Flurry and SoA sounds fine to me. rąʂKƴɖooƿɭɘş 01:05, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Stolen from Frostway, that's what most imba's I see run. Flurry is meh cause of conset. Never really like "SYG!" but it's player preference. Miharo 00:30, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Stolen from Frostway, that's what most imba's I see run. Flurry is meh cause of conset. Never really like "SYG!" but it's player preference. Miharo 00:30, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Archive
It hasn't really been used after nerf, everybody runs frost. Miharo 09:33, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Pretty sure people still run similar stuff, but there ain't no "AoTL" or "glaive tank". People would look at you funny.. we could remove those certainly. -- Chieftain Alex 09:52, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, frost is pretty similar... Miharo 09:57, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Also people pretty much never ran SoS AND Panic. Just Panic with convert mostly. But yeah, archive. Miharo 10:00, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * If not I'd suggest a revote, but then it'd be welled cause of frostway which has pretty much the same professions but can roll HM with ease. But it's flagged for archival now, so meh. Miharo 16:29, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

DoA NM Glaiveway build's//Take out Archive
Necromancer [build prof=n/rt Soul=12+1+1 Channeling=12][Destructive Was Glaive][Spirit Rift][Ancestors' Rage][Light of Deldrimor][Lightbringer's Gaze][Ebon Battle Standard of Honor][Signet of Lost Souls][Angorodons gaze][/build]

Ritaulist [build prof=rt/me Restoration=12 Channeling=12+1+3][Arcane Echo][Destructive Was Glaive][Spirit Rift][Ancestors' Rage][Light of Deldrimor][Lightbringer's Gaze][Lightbringer Signet][Pure Was Li Ming][/build]

Mesmer [build prof=me/rt Fast=12+1+3 Channeling=12][Arcane Echo][Destructive Was Glaive][Spirit Rift][Ancestors' Rage][Lightbringer's Gaze][Lightbringer Signet][Ebon Battle Standard of Wisdom][Persistence of memory][/build]

reasons=i come acroos heaps of DoA NM pug's who still use the archive page like its still "hot", and follow there builds to a T, first off mantra of earth=non effective most the time until, and the necromancer bar was always called terribad looking/playability, foul feast just seem epic'lly crap and wasteful slot, when u get enough conditions u might aswell steal health and gain energy aswell(was toying with the idea to put radiation field instead of Honor),, Panic or SoS option still, as people still switch between the 2, Mallyx section on page=remock panic as key stone for mallyx, and HB as WoH for mallyx, also give SoS gaze of fury for when doing mallyx write in(if taking SoS), note: "at last spawn, Mesmer or SoS go stand at the door, wait for the option to walk in, every1 spam escape at the very seconds there screen go's black for cutscene to intercept, and keep spamming esc until there back to "play mode" and run outside the door, then 1 person goes in and initiates mallyx to turn hostile and brings him outside the room, where every 1 can just beat on him, like the weak peace of crap he is...but yeah HEAPS of people still use this page, lol, also dump flesh of my flesh from SoS bar and put summon spirits, get rid of ancestors rage for empowerment(funny enough cus higher energy for DwG's to spam, it makes run's go quick), also 1 hour 20 min runs are still possible, with a good team, also, DwG's, need to wall, Puller needs to pull everything into the DwG wall, and any stargglers that are attacking other people, those people need to lure the stragglers to the ball to get spiked, imbagon should always be in the mids of battle with DwG's, and panic need to panic the middle stygian fiend rangers to shut them down, so DwG's can spike without being rupted, also DwG's, need to spread slightly when fighting Fiends, so fiends dont AoE rupt every DwG--VanderBeltFamily 15:35, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Frostway is pretty much the same build but considered better and the current meta. Would updating this build make any difference in whether it should be unarchived?-- Relyk 22:41, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
 * dunno, but im not shore how wiki works so i threw in the /unarchive, lol, yeah FWay is similiar, but only gives little option of what proffessions to take, this should also have the HM tag removed or a little note "replace SoS/1 dwg with ST" to do HM, since its a fail with out ST--VanderBeltFamily 16:35, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Well we cant unarchive builds because theyre PUG friendly. Also, I heard this doesnt work in HM, does it? Whats the point of running this instead of frostway? Silen†  11:14, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, first of, it does work in HM if you replaces SoS for ST and DwG puller for Panic, make HB run PnH, also why run this over frostway?, because frostway requires 4 only proffessions and is designed for HM nobody want to do frostway out of HM, Glaiveway can use any proffession can be done in HM but its primarily used in NM, and as i said for Glaiveway to work in HM, is if you replaces SoS for ST(very important/wont need winter) and DwG puller for Panic(somewhat important), make HB run PnH(not overly important), frostway only uses Rt/Me or Me/Rt(rarely), is because the mantra of Frost is extra armor and monks can be somewhat lazy, also energy management from mantra of frost, and aswell as the Arcane echo for Destructive was glaive(bonus damage when dropping one for the other), and because the primary rit proffessions deal more damage with runes in channeling it makes for a faster/safer HM run, i have been in a guild where we decided to run a frostrun the glaive run both in HM to help people get DoA done on there main characters that cant be used in trench/mesway, and we did glaiveway HM for those who dont 1 of the 4 primary proffessions used as there MAIN, and all i have to say is frostway saves about 20 mins(then again we had more experienced DwG's doing Glaiveway HM), now i agree theres some point to not un-archive this build, but whats the point of a HM only version being left in the list when so many other proffessions wanna do NM/HM and this one hear, just needs the write up/FiX up to do Nm/HM., so yes theres a point to this over Frostway--VanderBeltFamily 18:32, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

DoA NM Glaiveway build's
Necromancer [build prof=n/rt Soul=12+1+1 Channeling=12][Destructive Was Glaive][Spirit Rift][Ancestors' Rage][Light of Deldrimor][Lightbringer's Gaze][Ebon Battle Standard of Honor][Signet of Lost Souls][Angorodons gaze][/build]

Ritaulist [build prof=rt/me restoration=12 Channeling=12+1+3][Arcane Echo][Destructive Was Glaive][Spirit Rift][Ancestors' Rage][Light of Deldrimor][Lightbringer's Gaze][Lightbringer Signet][Pure Was Li Ming][/build]

Mesmer [build prof=me/rt channeling=12 Fast=12+1+3][Arcane Echo][Destructive Was Glaive][Spirit Rift][Ancestors' Rage][Lightbringer's Gaze][Lightbringer Signet][Ebon Battle Standard of Wisdom][Persistence of memory][/build]

[build prof=a/rt shadow=12+1+1 Channeling=12][Destructive Was Glaive][Spirit Rift][Ancestors' Rage][Light of Deldrimor][Lightbringer's Gaze][Lightbringer Signet][Unseen Fury][Dark Escape][/build] [build prof=d/rt Mysticism=12+1+1 Channeling=12][Destructive Was Glaive][Spirit Rift][Ancestors' Rage][Light of Deldrimor][Lightbringer's Gaze][Lightbringer Signet][Faithful Intervention][Watchful Intervention][/build] [build prof=e/rt Energy=12+1+1 Channeling=12][Destructive Was Glaive][Spirit Rift][Ancestors' Rage][Light of Deldrimor][Lightbringer's Gaze][Elemental Lord][Aura of Restoration][Glyph of Restoration][/build] [build prof=mo/rt smiting=12+1+1 Channeling=12][Destructive Was Glaive][Spirit Rift][Ancestors' Rage][Light of Deldrimor][Lightbringer's Gaze][Lightbringer Signet][castigation signet][smite hex][/build] [build prof=p/rt Channeling=12 command=10+1+1 leadership=8+1][Destructive Was Glaive][Spirit Rift][Ancestor's Rage][Light of Deldrimor][Lightbringer's Gaze][Lightbringer Signet][Blazing Finale]["Help Me!"][/build] [build prof=r/rt wild=12+1+1 Channeling=12][Destructive Was Glaive][Spirit Rift][Ancestors' Rage][Light of Deldrimor]["Lightbringer's Gaze][Lightbringer Signet][Serpent's Quickness][Storm Chaser][/build] [build prof=w/rt str=12+1 cha=12][Destructive Was Glaive][Spirit Rift][Ancestors' Rage][Spirit Siphon][Lightbringer's Gaze][lightbringer signet]["I Am Unstoppable!"][Signet of Stamina][/build] or SoS instead of 4th DwG [build prof=Rt/R cha=11+1+3 spa=11+1 Beast=8][painful bond][Signet of Spirits][Bloodsong][Splinter Weapon][Empowerment][spirit siphon][EoE][optional][/build] (HM) [build prof=Rt/R communing=11+1+3 spa=11+2 Beast=8][soul twisting][shelter][union][Optional][Summon Spirits][boon of creation][EoE][flesh of my flesh][/build]
 * put Gaze of fury for Mallyx in-case cut scene glitch fails.
 * Empowerment for ST
 * Signet of creation for ST

--Panic-- [build prof=Mesmer/Mo DominationMagic=12+1+3 FastCasting=10+1 InspirationMagic=8+1][Panic][Mistrust][Wastrel's Demise]["I Am Unstoppable"][Unnatural Signet][Lightbringer Signet][Channeling][Shatter Hex][/build] (always go ahead and lure 2-3 groups at a time, depending on the strength of foe's, dwg's/sos+imba should make a cushion wall to pull foes into)

--Imbagon-- [build prof=P/W leadership=12+1+3 command=12+2 Spear=3]["Save Yourselves!"]["There's Nothing to Fear!"]["Signet of Aggression"][Lightbringer Signet][Focused Anger]["Fall Back!"]["Can't Touch This!"]["We Shall Return!"][/build]

--UA-- [build prof=Mo/W healing=12+1+1 divine=12+1 prot=3][ethereal light][Dwayna's Kiss][Seed of Life][Cure Hex][healing seed][Lightbringer Signet][Heal Party][Unyielding Aura][/build]

--PnH-- [build prof=Mo/Me healing=12+1+1 divine=12+1][Dwayna's Kiss][Patient Spirit][Seed of Life][Peace and Harmony][Healing Seed][Lightbringer Signet][Arcane Mimicry][Heal Party][/build] (HB=not enough Hex cure, so not worth the healing boon) --VanderBeltFamily 07:25, 2 July 2012 (UTC)