Archive talk:W/any PvE Cleave Warrior

Cyclone Axe might be helpful, possibly instead of Executioner's Strike. If you need something like Executioner's, I'd go with Body Blow because it costs 1 strike less of adrenaline, and can apply DW. Also, "For Great Justice!" would make a good Variant. -Mike 21:05, 23 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Ive listed most of those under variants.Canderouss


 * Still, I would replace Whirlwind Attack with an Optional, so you can put a Hero tag too. Just say to bring WW Attack for players, Cyclone Axe for heroes. --[[image:GoD Sig3.jpg|20px]] Guild of  Deals  06:56, 26 April 2008 (EDT)
 * I just put Cyclone Axe in. You can run Cyclone + Whirlwind if needed this way (swap out w/e skill). &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 19:12, 26 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Lion's comfort and cyclone axe should be optional aswell whirlwind attack. Not all areas need aoe dmg. Limu Tolkki 19:16, 26 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Optionals aren't always needed, if there's a variants list. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 21:36, 26 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Ok, changed.Canderouss
 * I think you should add For Great Justice! too. it would help with adrenaline upkeep. Tjubutsi 02:48, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

Looks pretty good to me, but did you test if heroes can make proper use of enraging charge and Lion's Comfort? --80.160.75.134 06:49, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

needs for great justice imo, i'd take out cyclone axe for it Drownz 11:01, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

dupe?
Archive:W/any Cleave Warrior  That  Twin   Tom  12:18, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
 * No, thats for PvP, this is for PvE. Note the diffrence please. Brandnew  pew pew me!

PvE Skills
Totally, like, dude... please... "Save Yourselves".Rehkmu 20:34, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Added. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 16:18, 1 May 2008 (EDT)

This is also listed under "Great Hero Builds" - Save Yourselves! cannot be used by Heroes.-Trvth 20:14, 2 May 2008 (EDT)
 * variants are gud, main tag is pve general anyways.  Antiarchangel [[Image:Antiarchangel No U Sig.png|19px]] TROLL  20:17, 2 May 2008 (EDT)

axe mastery
how come axe mastery is 12+1+1? is a superior rune not used? if so how come?
 * Sups fail in HM if you're running with less skill than a...... scrub. [[Image:BaineImg.jpg|19px|||My Talk]] BaineTheBotter  08:55, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * No-- Shadow [[Image:Relyk Sig.gif]] 22:15, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

Vote wipe/archive
Definitely inferior to the improved Archive:W/any Triple Chop Warrior.Pika Fan  04:53, 24 January 2009 (EST)


 * Cleave is a skill close to my heart, it's also the first axe skill people in proph cap. Let them have this. -- -Ch ao  s-  [[Image:TheDentist.jpg|19px]] 06:21, 24 January 2009 (EST)


 * Cleave is fairly good Axe attack for PvE actually. --Anonimous. D: 06:33, 24 January 2009 (EST)
 * Look at triple chop and you know why. It's definitely inferior to triple chop. Not saying that it is bad or not, just inferior and should be rated as such.Pika Fan  14:34, 24 January 2009 (EST)
 * worth Good tbh, vote lower. -- -Ch ao  s-  [[Image:TheDentist.jpg|19px]] 14:35, 24 January 2009 (EST)
 * Cant say I like Triple Chop.... --Anonimous. D: 15:23, 24 January 2009 (EST)
 * Look at the recharge on TC. You will pump more damage with Cleave in some teams and situations. - [[Image:Miserysig.PNG|117px]] (talk)  15:30, 24 January 2009 (EST)
 * ^ Pew pew in other words, pew pew is good. --Anonimous. D: 15:33, 24 January 2009 (EST)
 * And then you can bring wars endurance and pump more damage than either of them. I'm in favor of a vote wipe. Or maybe just mass bannings. Cleave is a piece of shit and has been since day one. Combine mediocre damage, mediocre aoe, and either mediocre pve skills or very few good pve skills and you get a build that should not be rated about 3.0. And yet it's in great? Seriously? - Auron 03:37, 25 January 2009 (EST)

rename to cleavage warrior
as GoD said. -- -Ch ao  s-   14:32, 24 January 2009 (EST)


 * <3 now play this on Jora, too bad they can't have PvE skills. -- -Ch ao  s-  [[Image:TheDentist.jpg|19px]] 15:28, 24 January 2009 (EST)

12+2 Strength
Isn't this just completely pointless and a waste of 35 hp? - Lordz 11:22, 15 February 2009
 * Breakpoint of 4 adrenaline from Enraging Charge. --Dandybot 06:47, 16 February 2009 (EST)

delete
the 5-5 and 5-4s. Mediocre votes are fine, low ones are fine -- 22:06, 26 February 2009 
 * ^need reasons please, not just statement. Rawrawr Dinosaur 22:16, 26 February 2009 (UTC)