Archive talk:D/any EE Onslaught Dervish

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I've seen Onslaught being used with Extend Enchantments. Not sure if it's really necessary but in energy terms it's better since Extend almost doubles your duration for only 50% more energy, and you can re-apply it if it gets stripped. I'm not sure what else to put with it though since your normal IAS/IMS aren't needed; maybe Whirling Charge, since you have good Wind? Twin Moon is probably good with the extra adrenaline. Discuss. Widow maker 16:22, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I really wouldn't sacrifice a slot for EE -since Onslaught is already maintainable- and go for some sort of utility --Master Elros 17:02, 14 August 2011 (UTC)


 * The PvP version of Onslaught only lasts about 6 seconds. As a primary Dervish you could push up to 11+1 Wind for 7 secs, plus another with an Of Enchanting weapon, but it's not maintainable. I updated the build page to reflect this. 86.29.59.232 18:12, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * My bad, sorry about the one above, EE-mainbar. Edit; Current flux doesn't favour Onslaught though --Master Elros 18:56, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * True, though TBH the current Flux doesn't favour any frontliner. In HA/GvG you can deal with it, it's something of an issue in RA perhaps but hey, it'll be gone in a couple of weeks. I don't think anyone here is paying much attention to the Flux, it's worth bearing in mind when you pick what to play but you're not going to trash or great a build based off it. 86.29.59.232 22:19, 14 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I dodge meteors with this flux :p, Onslaught is a strong bar, pretty much like Primal Rage was pre-nerf, but on steroids. 71.101.36.247 02:49, 17 August 2011 (UTC)


 * It's a bit vulnerable to ench removal and if you're using EE eats up two spaces. You also can't just spam feeders and teardowns mindlessly like with other derv builds or you'll end up removing it by accident. However any other derv build has both an unmaintainable IAS and an unmaintainable (and now nerfed) IMS which take up two slots anyway, and don't give adrenaline gain. Balthazar gives that and is still probably the strongest but here you're just trading a bit of armour and your holy damage for more of an IAS and IMS. Widow maker 08:21, 17 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Flux changed so this is slightly favored but, the current one takes away armor. so we i don't think flux can be accountable when it comes to judging builds since it changes every month affecting all pvp builds not just one or 2. Dacookiemaster 21:28, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Meta tag it. It's the most popular dervish build along with AoB--TahiriVeila 03:02, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
 * We might want to either get rid of the CM Tag or expand it to JQ/FA Dacookiemaster 17:30, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Are Grenth's Aura and Aura Slicer viable variants for Zealous Renewal and Twin Moon Sweep in RA for survivability? It made me survive a long while. Shadow 21:20, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * No one here cares about survivability, but go ahead and add those as variants. They're decent skills. --  Toraen   talk  22:50, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Haha, it just happened to kill 2 teams with a healer and one 3 vs. 4 battle. We had no healer btw. Sha</FONT>d</FONT>o</FONT>w</FONT> 07:02, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * idk if it matters but it looks like it has 5 votes now which is the minium for this and it looks like it will fall under "Great" category so if someone wants to put that up somewhere that would be great. just a random thought. Dacookiemaster 02:26, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

fixed the attributes... because they were just wrong. 14:39, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
 * hmm, found an interesting variant of Onslaught but using a hammer to give some nice pressure to people. Dacookiemaster 19:45, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I won 3/5 no monk vs monk fights with an Earth Shaker dervish. For the record I think that's a pretty cool build, but it doesn't really mean anything. (WM) 2.24.247.123 01:01, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Update coming
Say goodbye to this. http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:Robert_Gee/Journal/2012-01-20 Triss 14:19, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

[build prof=D/Any Scythe=12+1+1 Wind=8+1 Myst=10+1][Crippling Victory][Wearying Strike][Aura Slicer][Harrier's Haste][Rending Aura][Extend Enchantments][Onslaught][Resurrection Signet][/build]


 * Lacks that wonderful dmg of TMS :) Triss 09:29, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Seems like everyone changed the Dervish Duo with axe/dervish with AoB or similar builds  Chonsy  Rulez   19:04, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * It was axe/derv duo since january flux,update has changed only build of Dervish. Still I think lowered damage from Twin Moon Sweep is not worth it. Wounding Strike for the win ;) Triss 19:15, 25 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I think this should be archived. Removal of IMS makes this really mediocre. Now you actually need a slot for an IMS, thus giving the build less effectiveness for something it once had. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 03:40, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Still being used
This build is still being used in various HA/GvG builds. In general it looks like people are dropping zealous renewal for harrier's haste. The build still works but you have to be more cautious when it comes to tearing down enchants. Some may say you have to be skilful and not face roll enchants+attack skills! <font color="Black">Frostels 19:55, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * And this is how the things an user says gets ignored and we go archiving every bit without even having thought about it (because there is noooo way that build can be changed some way).  Shadow  Talk  19:57, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I've moved it back for now with a modified skillbar and usage. However if it does die away it can be moved back. There is no point in hastily moving something into archives or out of meta since we are here to document meta, not decide it. <font color="Black">Frostels 20:18, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * True story, I just archived it coz they said there was no way it could be changed and still be viable XD  Shadow  Talk  20:20, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Not meta anymore, not used at all
Nerf to Onslaught, people started using warriors again in GvG, or they use AoB dervishes. Maybe archieve? <font color="DarkGreen">Chonsy <font color="DarkGreen">Rulez  18:06, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Still viable with Rush instead of harrier's haste tbh <font face="Calibri" color=black>Chieftain Alex  19:03, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Still nothing that makes it stand out over the AoB derv, which is now basically this + armor and burning. Unless I'm missing something because I'm bad at GvG (IAS is more maintainable I guess?). -- Toraen   confer  02:58, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Rush is incredibly brave and anyone who uses it must be amazingly handsome and good at guild worz. :>>>>
 * But yeah, it's never used any more, and should probably be archived in pre-nerf + meta state. <font face="Cuckoo" color=Fuchsia >P <font face="Comic Sans MS" color=Aqua >e <font face="Monotype Corsiva" color=lime >W  :> 09:05, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Sadly but true, this is falling into the archives --  Sh @ dow / /  Haze  14:35, 17 April 2012 (UTC)