Archive talk:D/any Balthazar UW Farmer

Dervishes were made for farming UW and FoW. - (nō'vĭk dăn tĕt') [snō hwīt tăn]  21:34, 1 March 2008 (EST)
 * The damage is just lol. I will keep posting these until someone tells me to make a Dervish Farming Guide. - (nō'vĭk dăn tĕt') [[Image:Ritualist-icon-small.png]] [snō hwīt tăn] 21:37, 1 March 2008 (EST)
 * "this is superior to every other Dervish UW build in existence." i don't think that helps you getting this vetted.. Fjodor 04:48, 2 March 2008 (EST)
 * Bah, I'll remove that... - (nō'vĭk dăn tĕt') [[Image:Ritualist-icon-small.png]] [snō hwīt tăn] 04:50, 2 March 2008 (EST)
 * danke..! Fjodor 04:52, 2 March 2008 (EST)
 * German eh? Bitte. - (nō'vĭk dăn tĕt') [[Image:Ritualist-icon-small.png]] [snō hwīt tăn] 04:53, 2 March 2008 (EST)
 * no swedish.. i just like to use other languages(however you spell that?).. Fjodor 04:54, 2 March 2008 (EST)
 * Tænkte nok du var svensk. But enough about you (or me for that matter), go test and rate the build! - (nō'vĭk dăn tĕt') [[Image:Ritualist-icon-small.png]] [snō hwīt tăn] 04:59, 2 March 2008 (EST)
 * I'm actually gonna test it.. but i never rate so.. :p Fjodor 05:55, 2 March 2008 (EST)
 * At least give some feedback then, please. - (nō'vĭk dăn tĕt') [[Image:Ritualist-icon-small.png]] [snō hwīt tăn] 06:00, 2 March 2008 (EST)

I just ran this in uw.. I killed the graspings so fast i didn't even know it :p.. THe smites on the other hand were harder.. You die pretty quickly if you attack while they have SoJ up.. cause sometimes after they've gotten SoJ on them, they don't attack so SoJ doesn't get removed.. But when it's removed the die of as fast as the graspings.. Works great, IF you know how to do.. Unfortunatly i died cause of a coldfire! Fjodor 06:13, 2 March 2008 (EST)
 * Non-removal happens once in ~100 runs (to me at least). Getting used to how it works really helps. - (nō'vĭk dăn tĕt') [[Image:Ritualist-icon-small.png]] [snō hwīt tăn] 06:17, 2 March 2008 (EST)
 * Yeah.. But it's a great build.. Rly Fjodor 07:46, 2 March 2008 (EST)
 * Funny, both here and on the voting page you call it great, but you rated it "good". - (nō'vĭk dăn tĕt') [[Image:Ritualist-icon-small.png]] [snō hwīt tăn] 18:44, 2 March 2008 (EST)
 * Yeah yeah.. I know, was my first rate so didn't know what it would be.. :p Fjodor 06:20, 3 March 2008 (EST)

Hits of 100+ damage are funny ^^ - (ăl zâr'ăs thĕ rē'pər) [snō hwīt tăn]  08:00, 22 March 2008 (EDT)

Greevar's Vote
Misrepresents the builds capabilities. 18hp*3 per hit with IAS + AoB is good survivability in UW. Stuff will die long before you would have if you do it right. 1e*3 per hit with IAS = energy management. With the nerf to "Fear Me!" the Graspings are unable to spam it as much, meaning extra energy management is hardly necessary. Change or remove please, or I'll get a BM/Admin to do it for you. - (nō'vĭk dăn tĕt') [snō hwīt tăn]  18:43, 2 March 2008 (EST)
 * Thanks. - (nō'vĭk dăn tĕt') [[Image:Ritualist-icon-small.png]] [snō hwīt tăn] 03:02, 3 March 2008 (EST)
 * Meow! Hiss! - PANIC!  [[Image:panic_sig3.gif|20px]]  pewpewpew!  08:02, 22 March 2008 (EDT)

Video?
If it isn't a great request, then please upload a video of this build in work. Gelei 08:25, 25 April 2008 (EDT)


 * Here you go. - [[user:Snow White Tan|

21:26, 17 May 2008 (EDT)(ză'hîr ăl nĕphīlī) ]] [snō hwīt tăn] 22:27, 25 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Ack! I fell for good-ol-rick!--Flycken

Great build!
Thanks for posting! Build works really great. Although, alot of practice (and money :) is needed to master it. Really, dervishes are made for farming. --92.100.118.150 23:11, 23 May 2008 (EDT)

To be safe
what's the maximum amount of smites i should be aggroing? Elijah1210 18:27, 3 November 2008 (EST)
 * I take one group at a time.. Easy, and fast ^^ Fjodor 13:36, 5 November 2008 (EST)

The Run
Uh im having a bit of trouble with the run, i can't seem to make it past the coldfire patrols, the ones on the left side always aggro along with the smites... if somebody could post a video that would be great thanks Elijah1210 17:09, 7 November 2008 (EST)

Nvm, i kept messing up the timing Elijah1210 21:39, 8 November 2008 (EST)

Sorry for noob question
Hi, sorry for being a noob at farming (I got into the habit of leeching in CoF runs instead) but would this work for HM? Please answer, and sorry for being a noob again >< 12:58, 24 November 2008 (EST)

No.

Some Questions
After a run or two with this, I noticed a few issues that may just because I am not doing something right and have a few questions. 1) I seem to have some energy issues. For Graspings, they use Fear Me!, which drains my energy pretty quickly, but I usually don't have too much issue with them, I somehow have my health taken halfway down by them...but that's manageable, albeit a little slower than intended. However, using all four enchants when fighting smites take 35 energy...which a normal Dervish doesn't have, not to mention having to keep up Mystic Vigor and Rending Aura. 2) Smites seem to keep SoJ up at times...they use SoJ and quickly use Reversal of Fortune, so they get Reversal removed and then I attack and take like...50 damage and then they lose SoJ, only to put it up again later

What am I not doing right? The first group of smites killed me, I killed four and the last one got me...
 * Please sign comments with four "~". 1) vs smites prioritize enchantements : rending/mystic/eternal come first. HoF and AoHM are only used to increase DPS, you can cast them later in the fight. 2)After casting rending, don't attack for 2-3 seconds. That should remove all their enchants. And SoJ has a 45 sec recharge... You should be able to kill the smites before they have to recast it. Kyhzna Faikun  01:39, 12 December 2008 (EST)

I found it much better than Dwayna's UW Solo but..
Perhaps it's just a small sample size but my Ecto drop rate has plummeted while using this instead of the Dwayna equivalent. This build is much much faster than Dwayna at running the smites. I've just started using this build instead of Dwayna and my average run time is cut from 18-20 minutes to about 10-12. However, my first 10 runs only netted ONE ecto! Maybe I'm just going crazy. I'll try another 10.Kevinqx 18:57, 20 December 2008 (EST)
 * You are just unlucky.<font color="#FDD017" face="blackadder itc">Pika <font color="#FDD017" face="blackadder itc">Fan [[image:lightningbolt_sig.jpg|19x19px]] 18:59, 20 December 2008 (EST)

is the Zealous scythe required for the energy management?

Problem with bigger groups
I just can't seem to be able to defeat smites when there's more than 3 of them. I got hit by shield of judgement and it's game over :(
 * You have Rending Aura..

I have the same problem, will someone help me? I simply cannot kill the smite crawlers, they attack and kill me way too fast for me to outheal, not to mention that god-awful thing called Shield of Judgment, Rending Aura somehow doesn't remove it fast enough and I simply can't manage to kill them with only the heal of mystic vigor...can someone make a video so i can model after them? 76.100.249.38 18:36, 19 January 2009 (EST)Razaac

would "I am Unstoppable" be better than rending aura? because i believe a derv could outdamage before he dies in groups of 4 or smaller

Video
Can anyone make a video of this build? Could be relly helpful to see how I should take care of those smites.

sorry i'm really noob...but...
i followed everything on the page, and got all the armor it told me to do, and did all the things it told me to do, but i keep getting killed by bladed aatxes... when aggro the graspings, the aatxes follow and kill me... help would be greatly appreciated
 * When you agro the group, run all the way back down into the starting area. If you go far enough with AoB up, theyll stop following.  Life [[Image:WikiLOD7.gif]] 00:27, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't stop until your certain they aren't following you. fjodor 10:21, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The cows loose interest after a good bit, just keep moving back and they run back to where they were.--66.192.104.13 11:10, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

yes but they just kill me before they lose interest...
 * If you have AoB they shouldn't keep up with you? fjodor 12:45, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * they do one of those double-takes, like run at me, run away two steps, run back towards me, run back, etc etc untill they're at attacking distance and i'm between a wall of cows and the aggro of another group of cows, and they kill me in about 5 seconds...
 * watch how to do it on youtube.[[Image:unrealSignature1.png]] 15:29, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Can you link me one?
 * I realise i'm replying rather late... make sure not to aggro the aatxes that are patroling, I find that these keep aggro even with AoB. But aggroing the stationary ones with the graspings is fine. C3lticmatt 15:19, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Whirlwind Attack
Has anyone tried it? You'll hit all foes instead of 3, more heals from Mystic Vigor, and you should gain enough adrenaline to be able to use it frequently. MisterB 23:08, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

strange behavior after farming several times
does anyone else experience bladed aaxe's being able to hit you even after you've past them and they also seem to follow you longer (seems to happen after so many UW attempts)? Pineapplelobby 02:40, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * sounds like lag to me. C3lticmatt 16:57, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Type /stuck and you'll see why. --[[Image:Jaigoda_endrant.jpg|/rant]]  Jai  writes a  lot . . . 16:59, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Nobody farms smites anymore
Nobody does this anymore paying 10k for runs to get 1 ecto is not worth it u are all ways in lose by doing smite runs chaos planes is only profitable way 10 e in choas planes is great for me 0 in wastes is shit
 * It's called a SOLO for a reason. ~ Big  [[Image:Big sadface sig.PNG]]  sysop  20:57, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

That's not true, I just did a run of 14minutes and got 4 ectos, most profitable build imo.

Skeletons
Does this still work? 88.148.216.26 18:49, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * No, in the Ice Wastes there is no way you can obstruct their attacks to farm smites and you can't kill them either cause they will eat you alive before you manage kill them, nerfed  x²+yx²= x²(1+y)  22:19, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Does nobody care enough to even archive this?  x²+yx²= x²(1+y)  14:14, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * I think everybody is wating for this whole haloween thing to be over to be 100% sure whether the skeleton nigz are staying. --<font color="Black">Frosty  [[Image:Frostcharge.jpg|19px]] 14:42, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * Though the run is more difficult it is still without a doubt possible. The only hard part is running to wastes and thats not even bad if you know how to strafe. Also, the claim that you can't kill the skeles is absurd, did you actually try; put up your enchants and smash away! 68.92.156.187 05:35, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Skeletons outdamage yo by far... --  x²+yx²=  x²(1+y)  13:17, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * This has not been my experience whatsoever!68.92.156.150 05:33, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

nerfed
Pretty certain this doesn't work anymore. Heck, I can't even kill all the graspings. The run to the smite crawlers isn't so bad though if someone else takes care of the graspings. Jhgaylor 08:30, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Archive it doesnt work any more cant kill anything with the annoying new spawns and the skeletons <font color="Black" face="Comic Sans" size="3">Tyrael <font color="IndianRed" face="Comic Sans" size="3">XY 22:21, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Possible Still
To all the people that say this isn't possible, I just did several runs and found it very easy to avoid the Skeletons in the first chamber, and the run was relatively easy. When I got to the Ice Wastes I just proceeded as normal and didnt have much of a problem killing the Skeletons quickly.

Don't quite know why people are struggling so much. Sernako 04:17, January 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Does this work in HM or just NM? <font color="Red">The [[Image:Verata Invert.jpg|19px]] <font color="Black">Wojo (Brb House on Fire!) 01:57, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Tested on mulitple runs...works eeeeasy in NM still. Just make sure to aggro skeletons separately. Havn't tested HM yet <font color="Red">The [[Image:Verata Invert.jpg|19px]] <font color="Black">Wojo (Brb House on Fire!) 20:42, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Victorious Sweep
Take out eremites or mystic, Eremite's imo, b/c of lone smites sometimes just left solo and enchants should be up. Victorious is much more reliable, a tad slower but more reliable and makes killing Coldfires, Skeletons, and groups in general much easier
 * Ya, I switched to that for my runs. Not dying is waaay more useful than a little faster damage <font color="Red">The [[Image:Verata Invert.jpg|19px]] <font color="Black">Wojo (Brb House on Fire!) 23:37, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Yep most deff, btw when encountering the Skeleton in which you lose aggro of the grasping when going to the Smite area you can hide behind the entrance frame to Obstacle the Skeleton's Attacks and regen so you're ready to go in
 * yep. And as u go through the door that opened when u completed the chamber objective, you can use the wall to block skeletons there too. also, you can lose aggro from everyone there as like a safespot, if ur standing just right. <font color="Red">The [[Image:Verata Invert.jpg|19px]] <font color="Black">Wojo (Brb House on Fire!) 21:12, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Can someone make a screenshot for this spot? As this is the only place I always die, because I get to the skeleton with too low health to kill it. 80.56.51.129 22:14, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Skelletons of dhuum are easily killable when they are alone, just activate all the enchantments (except rending aura) before fighting them, they will die in a few hits, just spam skills.

This Still Works
follow standard procedure for pwning the graspings and the run. kill off the first group of smites and wait for the skele. pre cast vigor, AoB, and heart, get into range and blast him with AoHM and and EA, then beat its face in with attacks (might need vic sweep not sure since ive always used it instead of eremites) continue your run and repeat on the skeles