Archive talk:Mo/Me HA PnH Prot

go go Frosty  the Admin 22:32, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I always wanted to run this, but nobody would let me.220.255.7.136 22:40, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * That's cause you wanted to run a full gvg version ;o [[Image:Frostysig9000.jpg|19px]]Frosty  the Admin 22:57, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * For condition removal standards, PNH is not a good choice. Perhaps on a caster backline this would work.-- Ikimono Needs more Paragon [[Image:Monk-Paragon-icon.png|24px]] 22:59, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, using draw conditions could work better than mend condition: complete condition control station, though it wouldnt have the healing.-- Ikimono Needs more Paragon [[Image:Monk-Paragon-icon.png|24px]] 23:01, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ummkay......all backlines are casters naturally(except para backlines and they are bad now anyway)....
 * Iki, Mend Condi is not only for its condition removal but for its relatively decent heal. [[Image:Frostysig9000.jpg|19px]]Frosty  the Admin 23:22, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

No RoF? Drah Mc Ninja  23:05, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope. [[Image:Frostysig9000.jpg|19px]]Frosty  the <font color="Blue">Admin 23:22, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * pdrain is too awesome for some crappy skill like rof--Relyk 00:49, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * use with a nec that has ff/ps and bam! u can take rof.--<font color="Blue">BLUE  <font color="Blue">APACHES  <font color="Blue">WILL KILL YOU!!!watch out or die, your choice 00:54, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I was thinking dropping SoA for RoF, but w/e. <font color="Black">Drah <font color="DarkRed">Mc <font color="Black">Ninja  01:56, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Drop SoA, in HA? That is baaaad. [[Image:Frostysig9000.jpg|19px]]<font color="Blue">Frosty <font color="Blue"> the <font color="Blue">Admin 06:38, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * i've thought of this. but i wouldn't call it that good tbh because no rof is actually pretty bad for redbarring so you do almost no healing at all. RC powerheals and LS means that you have rof and condi removal in the same slot. RoF is strong for prot. 92.43.66.7 14:00, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not your job to redbar people as PnH Prot. - [[Image:Panic_sig7.gif‎]] 14:10, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * But without divine heals you lose out on party heals so have to bring a HB which redbars a single person much less than a WoH. But i suppose bringing a rit with pwk+life might make up for not bringing HB 92.43.66.7 14:16, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * May see HB coming back to the meta indeed. [[Image:Frostysig9000.jpg|19px]]<font color="Blue">Frosty <font color="Blue"> the <font color="Blue">Admin 14:20, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * that is my point. then how do you redbar somebody? woh is strong for that, whereas HB is much better for whole party redbarring. RoF would help 92.43.66.7 14:25, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Erm, you know you run heal party with HB lol? [[Image:Frostysig9000.jpg|19px]]<font color="Blue">Frosty <font color="Blue"> the <font color="Blue">Admin 14:28, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * HB would be epic for the Mo/Me meta. WoHs might be brave and run Inspired. - [[Image:Panic_sig7.gif‎]] 14:30, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The only reason WoH is run is because of all the off monk party heals (PwK's, Divine heals etc), if this is used more often and we go back to dual monk meta then it would make sense for HB to replace woh. [[Image:Frostysig9000.jpg|19px]]<font color="Blue">Frosty <font color="Blue"> the <font color="Blue">Admin 14:32, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * If you were going to run a build with an HB in it, then you wouldn't take the WoH. If you want to run a build with the auxiliary party heals, you could stick with the WoH and be brave. Bravery, Frosty. BRAVERY! - [[Image:Panic_sig7.gif‎]] 14:37, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * ermmm my point was that it focuses more on Party healing than redbarring individuals. spamming rof helps to redbar. it can be up to a 100 heal including df 92.43.66.7 14:39, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Make a Variants section and throw it in with any other skills you can reasonably take. I dunno how likely it is that you might take Dismiss or Deny with this, but you can probably chuck them in. No one really looks at Variants anyway. - [[Image:Panic_sig7.gif‎]] 14:48, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

This is mostly run in eurospike (with bip/pod with ff) so mend might not have to be mainbar. - Tycn 15:55, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * ^Agree. drop mend for rof mainbar, and put note that it is run with a necro with FF, as tbh, you wouldn't usually ever run thiswithout FF even with mend Exo Oo 16:29, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

oo golden agreed with me that it needed redbar i.e rof Exo Oo 18:19, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I disagree. PnH acts alot like RoF in the way that it can be used as an 'oshit' skill to catch missed spikes. It removes all conditions (DW) meaning a spike will most likely be caught. As far as pressure goes.. there are so many better skills that can be used instead of RoF, like Deny or Divine Healing. Smurf Ohai 09:37, 1 June 2009 (UTC)