Archive talk:Rt/Mo Warmonger's Support/Archive 1

Comments are welcome Chuki 17:36, 1 January 2008 (EST)


 * I use this exact build but with Ancestor's Rage over ghostmirror. It's own, got me lotsa glads. --Mala[[Image:Mala_sig_Mind_Blast.jpg|19px]] 17:46, 1 January 2008 (EST)
 * ...mmmmm.... good point... I think can be added as a variant... Thanks a lot for the coop. Chuki 17:49, 1 January 2008 (EST)


 * Yeap, i've used this build many of times.. excluding Ghost Mirror, as you're becoming more of a heal supporter, and this build should be all around support. Warmonger's + AR on a non retarded melee character is just ownage. [[Image:Shield_of_Deflection.jpg|19px]] Hide-And-Seek 22:28, 1 January 2008 (EST)

Ghostmirror is bad. Like those ^ guys said, just swap it for Ancestor's Rage. On the other hand, there already might be a build like this on PvX. - Star Seeker  |  My talk  05:52, 2 January 2008 (EST)
 * Thanks for the coop. Rage is added as a more offensive variant. As for other PvX builds, I have tried to go over working and testing RT builds and didn't see this build. Please, provide a link so we can check. Chuki 06:33, 2 January 2008 (EST)


 * Youre right, not exactly the same, but still alike:
 * http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Rt/any_OoS_Support_Rit
 * http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Rt/any_Helping_Ritualist
 * I found those two when I just glanced over the builds. So maybe a merge, or maybe this may be different enough after all. Let's wait for some input from other contributors. - Star Seeker  |  My talk  13:47, 2 January 2008 (EST)
 * If anything it's a better version of the 1st one, but different enough to deserve its own page. --Mala[[Image:Mala_sig_Mind_Blast.jpg|19px]] 14:06, 2 January 2008 (EST)
 * I usually run a similar build myself (probably the one build that has given me most gladpoints in RA) I use 3 weapon spells instead of one otherwise its pretty much the same build:


 * Sometimes I replace Wielder's Boon for res sig but only while I lag since 3 fast recharging heals and one protection spell I count myself as a monk. While it got very bad ratings from some users, I still prefer it to most other rt builds and its my favorite build to run in RA. It has good healing and can assist with damage if needed (nightmare weapon and bloodsong), can interupt (warmongers) has a high survivability in RA (Resilient weapon) due to the condition/hex heavy standard there is there, and it has good healing and energy management. Oh and here is another one .--√ iktor 19:59, 8 January 2008 (EST)

I think this build is pretty darn good, I can usually get a glad point out of it. Just today I got 12 wins straight, the only thing I do is use AR vs Ghostmirror as AR is a huge spike assist with a hammer war. (Mr Pink57 21:16, 6 January 2008 (EST))

Ask on the notice board to remove rawrawr vote.

Warmongers gets an extra second with 4 spawning, unless it rounds 0.8 up to 1 with the current 3. If someone knows or can test that, I think it would be worth considering adding the spawning rune on the main page. Also, a variant should be Weapon of Warding. Personally, I'd add it instead of Life on the main bar. I don't really have the time to test the Warmonger's issue myself. Mike 18:50, 7 January 2008 (EST)

WELL
For tha sake of God. This is a PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED BUILD!!!. It has a CLEAN with no biased friends votes of 4.44!!!. How can be a WELL!!!????. I don't undertstand how policies are applied....


 * Well, dupes aren't good either, and WELL is pretty liberally applied, truth be told... -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 02:53, 8 January 2008 (EST)

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If you need MB&S, spirit light and dual spirits to make it condi removal, get a new monk srsly. - Rawrawr  15:08, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * Thanks for your contribution Chuki 16:50, 8 January 2008 (EST)

Life
I'm not a big fan of it. I know the heal's nice, but perhaps trade Bloodsong for Gaze of Fury in order to wipe it if your party needs a quick heal? Just a thought. I've seen plenty of battles where Life outlives the rest of the party, or at least the person who's getting spiked, which is why I bring this up. cedave (contributions_buildpage)  16:21, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * Good approach. You will rely only in one spirit, but can wipe Life...and while Fury is on field, recharged Life can be used again. We (the kid ;-) )will test it and I think can be added as a variant. Thanks for your contribution. Chuki 16:50, 8 January 2008 (EST)
 * No problem. Wait for some more feedback before changing it, though, perhaps. Hopefully someone will comment on this idea other than me. Well, actually, if you want to make the change, go ahead once it's tested. Either way I bet we'll get some type of feedback. [[Image:Cedave_bad.png|16px]] cedave (contributions_buildpage)  16:56, 8 January 2008 (EST)

Because there will be QQ about removed votes

 * A vote must constitute an objective judgment of the build's qualities. It must not be biased by sympathy or any other prejudice regarding the author. This applies in particular to votes given by authors themselves or their friends. Votes that deliberately overshoot in favoring or unfavoring a build in order to 'compensate' another vote are not acceptable either.

In other words, don't dump the build down just because you have a personal grudge against it. -- Armond Warblade 01:32, 9 January 2008 (EST)
 * I have a personal grudge against builds that are bad. Just because some new user fucking cries about his build being rated badly by someone else (rawr, who knows that the feck he's talking about), votes from long-time contributors that are obviously true are removed and 5-5-5 votes to make the user shut the fuck up are kept. Can't wait for BM policy. &mdash;  Skadiddly [슴Mc슴] Diddles  17:39, 9 January 2008 (EST)
 * In every comment there's a line between truth and bullshit. This removal clearly represents the latter. I gave neither build a "Great" rating. One had one higher point in Effectiveness and two higher points in Universality. Any way you look at it, the vote was perfectly valid and much more comprehensive than any other vote that's been made on either page. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 17:50, 9 January 2008 (EST)
 * Then let me make this perfectly clear to both of you. If either of you continue to bitch and complain because there is one skill different on a build that has a different purpose and cannot make effective use of that skill for its purpose, you will be given a cool-off ban. Capishe? -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 19:30, 9 January 2008 (EST)
 * HOW DARE YOU MAKE THE WIKI BETTER /ban. Look at my fucking essay for more info. &mdash;  Skadiddly [슴Mc슴] Diddles  19:32, 9 January 2008 (EST)
 * It's rather unfortunate that is not a bannable offense, especially when you've yet to prove anything other than that you can sympathize with editors to break policy. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 21:46, 9 January 2008 (EST)

I do really don't understand these attitude
Skakid, rapta, won't you see that with your attitude the only things you got are headaches for everybody? Please, stop trolling and make something useful for the wiki.

Chuki 17:59, 9 January 2008 (EST)


 * Way ahead of you. &mdash;  Skadiddly [슴Mc슴] Diddles  18:13, 9 January 2008 (EST)
 * ... Chuki 18:17, 9 January 2008 (EST)
 * 2 for Skadid, 0 for Chuki Chris 19:21, 9 January 2008 (EST)

Merge
Veil and better attributes should be in main bar.  Shen (contribs) 19:46, 9 January 2008 (EST)
 * Way ahead of you. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 21:46, 9 January 2008 (EST)