Archive talk:E/Rt Ward Against Harm Snare

Harm is an elite melee, get melee, and a better elite, imo. Attribute spread into resto is both stupid and energy consuming. Imo. 10:23, 20 December 2007 (EST)
 * Harm isn't melee, it's usage it so totally different. It's usage is against Fire Ele's(and giving +24 armor vs others). Melee is just for blocks against thumpgay and shit. Anyway, we already have this only w/o WoW, WoW is bad anyway so should be WELL'd. - [[Image:Unexist sig.jpg|20px]]Unexist  10:33, 20 December 2007 (EST)
 * If you wanna have harm, imo just lose the gvg tag. Fire eles are hopefully going to be phased out soon anyway, atleast the portable spaceheater ones.[[Image:Dark0805sig2.PNG]] 10:37, 20 December 2007 (EST)
 * They're not, if a-net does that, i officically quit ha. Fire ele's is what's making balanced work. - [[Image:Unexist sig.jpg|20px]]Unexist  14:26, 21 December 2007 (EST)

Erm... I dont know but can this actually do some more than Snare and 24 armor vs dmg.. And if u meet a fire ele which in HA, GVG will be mind blast then the 64armor isnt that good cause evryone one the team will be on fire :/ Massive   11:49, 20 December 2007 (EST)
 * There are many more types of fire eles than just mind blast/rodgorts in HA. And unless you and your team are total scrubs, you shouldn't be balling in the ward. You use the ward around monks who are channel tanking or to provide an area to sit in for a moment or two to relieve some pressure. Or you drop it on the alter to protect the ghost. You DON'T ball in it.--Goldenstar 20:45, 20 December 2007 (EST)

Commonly used HA build, if you think it sucks, you fail. &mdash; Skakid  HoHoHo 20:47, 20 December 2007 (EST)
 * I can agree on that, but, the gvg tag is simply inacurate. thats really the only problem i have with it(and I disagree on WoW, but, i could care less)[[Image:Dark0805sig2.PNG]] 08:07, 21 December 2007 (EST)
 * Skakid stop taking my job of saying that qq - Rawrawr  08:19, 21 December 2007 (EST)
 * Lol british emo.[[Image:Dark0805sig2.PNG]] 08:29, 21 December 2007 (EST)
 * Go die you american fuckface. I hate emos =o gogo scene - Rawrawr  08:33, 21 December 2007 (EST)
 * 'portable spaceheater ones' lol - Rawrawr  08:33, 21 December 2007 (EST)
 * as compared to:
 * british fag.[[Image:Dark0805sig2.PNG]] 08:41, 21 December 2007 (EST)
 * - Rawrawr  08:46, 21 December 2007 (EST)
 * I missed the joke. oh wait, british humor.[[Image:Dark0805sig2.PNG]] 08:49, 21 December 2007 (EST)
 * Your version of the office was pathetic. - Rawrawr  09:37, 21 December 2007 (EST)
 * Indeed. But so was yours. overall its a shit show that my fag friends are obsessed with. and oh yeh: british is sux.[[Image:Dark0805sig2.PNG]] 11:50, 21 December 2007 (EST)
 * Fawlty towers owns all american comedy, even most americans agree lulz. - Rawrawr  11:51, 21 December 2007 (EST)
 * >you. (also).[[Image:Dark0805sig2.PNG]] 12:03, 21 December 2007 (EST)
 * Indeed. But so was yours. overall its a shit show that my fag friends are obsessed with. and oh yeh: british is sux.[[Image:Dark0805sig2.PNG]] 11:50, 21 December 2007 (EST)
 * Fawlty towers owns all american comedy, even most americans agree lulz. - Rawrawr  11:51, 21 December 2007 (EST)
 * >you. (also).[[Image:Dark0805sig2.PNG]] 12:03, 21 December 2007 (EST)

Agreed. WoW is great for KotH for protecting ghostly. WaH is also good. --Readem When dR was owning halls earlier today (I was shocked too :o) Ensign was running this or at least, an E/Rt with the first 6 skills from what I saw. --Mala 10:59, 21 December 2007 (EST)
 * I have their whole build saved somewhere. They held for 4 hourz with it lul. - Rawrawr  11:00, 21 December 2007 (EST)
 * Omg, dR copied my chubbyway :( (wts meta's). I only held for 2 hours, tho :(. And btw, a 5 second WoW is baed, surely on a ele that can waste it's energy better to snaring gay hammer and axes(with pets).- [[Image:Unexist sig.jpg|20px]]Unexist  14:28, 21 December 2007 (EST)

Varient
Your Attributes are Too Spread, Lay off The Resotration Magic. Could I Suggest something More Along The Lines of:

[build name="Water Warder" prof=Elementalist/any WaterMagic=12+1+3 EnergyStorage=12+1][Water Attunement][Aura of Restoration][Glyph of Lesser Energy][Armor of Mist][Ward Against Harm][Deep Freeze][Ice Spikes][Glowing Ice][/build]

and Brits ftw вℓυє ℓαgσσи  11:09, 21 December 2007 (EST)
 * Brits ftw yes, but AoM fails compared to storm djinns etc, AoR is awful, GI isnt rly needed - Rawrawr  11:10, 21 December 2007 (EST)

attributes are too spread, qare you freaking serious? 13-11-11 is NOT by any means spread. And you've got 1 point in resto, the resto is there for hard rezzing and providing unstrippable blocking for the ghost on the alter. If you don't think this build works, you either have never played HA or you simply fail. I'm gonna take the gvg tag off too btw.--Goldenstar 13:58, 21 December 2007 (EST)
 * Rawr, once the gvg tag is off, what score should this get? idk enough about HA to know whether to 4 it or 5 it.[[Image:Dark0805sig2.PNG]] christmas doesnt warrant stupid sigs, people 14:00, 21 December 2007 (EST)
 * I removed that tag ages ago. A lot of halls winning teams use this, since it's good protection, especially for capping maps where you need all 8 people on the shrine to prevent it being capped. &mdash; Skakid  HoHoHo 14:33, 21 December 2007 (EST)

O, and retard rest break point. --Readem
 * The points in resto are just there because they're leftover. You don't need ANY points in resto, you can keep wow up forever w/o it.--Goldenstar 19:00, 21 December 2007 (EST)
 * That's a bad argument. I can also keep guardian up 24/7 with only 3/whatever prot, and still i take 14, right? You don't want to waste all your energy to it. These attributes suck, you never need more then 9 energy mangment, except for 2 attribute builds. You should go for like, 15-10-9-6.  —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  09:57, 14 April 2008 (EDT)

You could drop one from Energy Storage for a little more resto. 10+1 Earth, 11+1+1 Watter, 9+1 Energy Storage, and 4 resto like that you will atleast get 6 in WoW so it can constantly be kept on ghostly heros. Also who ever says WAM is bad elite hos odviously never ran a turely balenced team in HA.

Why not just use Ward against Meele for AoE Blockage?--Nog64 21:27, 23 December 2007 (EST)
 * GUYS THEYRE BALLING UP IN THE WARD NUKE NUKE I NEED 8 SAVANNAHS ON IT PLZ COMON U FAGS KILL THEM THEYRE BALLED AND GOT A DEEP FREEZE ON THEM. - [[Image:Unexist sig.jpg|20px]]Unexist  03:47, 24 December 2007 (EST)
 * LOL +60 VS FIRE --Mala[[Image:Mala_sig_Mind_Blast.jpg|19px]] 19:29, 24 December 2007 (EST)
 * Was actually refering to AoE blockage, lol. - [[Image:Unexist sig.jpg|20px]]Unexist  08:27, 14 January 2008 (EST)
 * D'oh, didn't read Nog's comment clearly... --Mala[[Image:Mala_sig_Mind_Blast.jpg|19px]] 12:15, 14 January 2008 (EST)

Weapon of Warding
Is crap @ 1. At least do something about it. - Unexist  08:28, 14 January 2008 (EST)

I have run this build many times, and it works great. The only thing I would say is a little less Earth Magic; for those who say all that will happen is they will deep freeze and AoE in ward is pretty dumb, because both wards are only used to kite through. Ward Against Foes is also great on maps like King Of The Hill and cap points, since when you having your entire team stand on the alter while being pounded by AoE it really makes the difference. Also WoW's main purpose is to be applied to the ghostly hero on king of the hill for an unstripable prot.Waffles 18:59, 15 January 2008 (EST)
 * You're totally getting away from the point, also sign comments by using four tildes - [[Image:Unexist sig.jpg|20px]]Unexist  15:23, 15 January 2008 (EST)
 * Increased.  10:01, 14 April 2008 (EDT)

archive?
afaik this hasnt been run for a while, one of the ha noobers should do it Tab 07:28, 17 February 2009 (EST)