Archive talk:N/A Insecurity Assacaster

let the flaming begin!(it works though) Alpha fireborn 14:10, 12 December 2008 (EST)
 * well of course it works. it's just random degen..-- Ikimono I know my Paragons [[Image:Paragon-icon-small.png]] 14:20, 12 December 2008 (EST)
 * um, the point is to drop insecurity on someone like a monk and let your party wail on him while you hit someone else. mark isnt just for the degen lol Alpha fireborn[[Image:Alpha Fireborn Cripshot.JPG|19px]] 16:27, 12 December 2008 (EST)

WTB ENERGY MANAGEMENT PLEEZ Insecurity needs a good nerf lol. Besides that, the build looks good. Goodoo2 18:25, 16 December 2008 (EST)
 * you have 40 base energy, a +9e signet,and soul reaping. if you cant kill stuff its your fault. besides for an assacaster this thing's energy management is good. Alpha fireborn[[Image:Alpha Fireborn Cripshot.JPG|19px]] 18:26, 16 December 2008 (EST)
 * We have lyssas aura for a reason though. Going /necro for energy management = fail, but u do get insecurity which owns. It's better in some ways and worse than others, but it's pretty good.EDIT: why is this tagged for RA? insecurity is a waste in RA when not everyone will have a monk, and while u can be like HAHA NO ATTUNEMEN T !@#$% to eles, lyssas is better because it is far more reliable for energy management.&mdash;[[Image:Cheese Slaya's Sig.jpg|50x19px]] Cheese Slaya  ( Talk ) 19:03, 16 December 2008 (EST)
 * Not being vetted for RA, it just works there. IC YF IF T YF I VE  19:29, 16 December 2008 (EST)
 * Lyssa's Aura fails more than going necro for energy. Lyssa's is an enchantment, and therefore easily removed or exploited. It doesn't even manage energy that effectively.Thirty9th 19:25, 19 December 2008 (EST)

This fails. Why bother hindering stances and enchantments when this build bypasses those (maybe except for stuff like... SoA or so.) completely! It's a spell caster! Squirrel 19:34, 16 December 2008 (EST)
 * Yea. You need to do some physical damage for making MoI effective. This is complete failure. --82.83.41.4 20:07, 16 December 2008 (EST)
 * lol contradictory statements. mark of insecurity is there to shut down the target to ALL classes, not just the necro. Necro/Assassin may have slightly worse energy management but it doesn't run into energy management problems unless you seriously fuck the build up. Alpha fireborn[[Image:Alpha Fireborn Cripshot.JPG|19px]] 19:41, 16 December 2008 (EST)

^^ yeah & ummm squirrel not bein mean but prot spirit will kill this build if u didnt have insecurity ... --Ecro 19:44, 16 December 2008 (EST)


 * Ok so this is a pretty interesting build. MoI is totally imba but it does not have a great synergy with this particular bar. Of course if you have melee guys on your team MoI could be excellent. However this is assuming that they are not retarded like 75% of RA players. The other thing to consider is... is it better than assassin primary assacasters. In my opinion probably not... the SoJ version has knocklocks and the LA version has DD spam and a shit ton of Energy. On top of that assassin primarys do more damage do more damage thanks to higher Deadly Arts. --Tyris 20:02, 16 December 2008 (EST)
 * but on the other hand soj sins have no energy management and la versions are easier to counter then this. Alpha fireborn[[Image:Alpha Fireborn Cripshot.JPG|19px]] 21:12, 16 December 2008 (EST)
 * It's not that hard to manage energy on SoJ sins, and LA is pretty overwhelming due to the fact that they never stop spamming shit. But to everyone saying MoI fails, please look at MoI daggers, scythes, and mezzes. It's not always used to shut down whoever you put it on - it's used to fuck any prots that a monk might use on them. It just happens to work on the player being spiked, as well. -- Shazam  The  Snake    [[Image:Shazam_The_Snake.png]]  hissssssssssss 22:15, 16 December 2008 (EST)
 * Dude, there's almost no skill in a monk bar that gets affected by the skills in the assa bar. It's just a wasted Elite in this build. Put MoI in an assa bar that uses physical damage that can be blocked. There's really no need in nullify Guardian or Disciplined Stance to open a gap for Signet of Toxic Shock. --82.83.41.4 02:49, 17 December 2008 (EST)
 * Monks definitely don't bring prots for casters. Ever. Screw SB, SoA, Prot Spirit, AoF, Shielding Hands, and even PS. -- Shazam  The  Snake    [[Image:Shazam_The_Snake.png]]  hissssssssssss 18:50, 17 December 2008 (EST)
 * Mark isn't so much for your individual benefit as much as it is that stuff will die with it on, almost guarenteed. Alpha fireborn[[Image:Alpha Fireborn Cripshot.JPG|19px]] 19:07, 17 December 2008 (EST)

just vote ok?
if you think it works vote it, if you dont think it works, vote it. dont wait for BMs. Alpha fireborn 21:28, 16 December 2008 (EST)

Necrocaster?
uhh assacaster = a/any. tis N/a. dont give a living poop about skills.-- Ogre MAD  22:07, 16 December 2008 (EST)
 * Assassin skills arent assassin skills anymore? Awesome, i'm gonna check the updates-- Ikimono I know my Paragons [[Image:Paragon-icon-small.png]] 22:13, 16 December 2008 (EST)
 * Necromancers are casters themselves so it would be redundant [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]P WNAGEMUFFIN   crabs  22:17, 16 December 2008 (EST)


 * Who italicized this whole article...?-- Ikimono I know my Paragons [[Image:Paragon-icon-small.png]] 00:00, 17 December 2008 (EST)
 * Reverted. --82.83.41.4 02:46, 17 December 2008 (EST)

Unexist?
"Uses mark of fucked on a bad template." since when has assacaster been a bad template? Alpha fireborn 10:07, 17 December 2008 (EST)
 * it's not, but this build is going to be extremely energy intensive.-- Ikimono I know my Paragons [[Image:Paragon-icon-small.png]] 18:54, 17 December 2008 (EST)
 * It shouldn't be that bad... SoJ sins don't have a TON of energy problems, and this bar's chain (MoI in exchange for Palm) reqs identical energy figures. The only difference is that the signet here returns energy. -- Shazam  The  Snake    [[Image:Shazam_The_Snake.png]]  hissssssssssss 18:57, 17 December 2008 (EST)
 * Agreed. palm strike -> mark of insecurity and signet of judgement -> signet of lost souls. smiting prayers -> soul reaping. Of course its going to be energy intensive, but what assacaster build isn't? and besides, it has the energy management to compensate. Alpha fireborn[[Image:Alpha Fireborn Cripshot.JPG|19px]] 19:05, 17 December 2008 (EST)
 * I agree; from personal experience, if you're running low on energy with this build, you're doing something very wrong.Thirty9th 02:05, 20 December 2008 (EST)

TBH
For Arenas, bring a Res, for splits, bring Dash. The SoJ Assacaster had no energy management and still works like a charm. -- 19:19, 20 December 2008 (EST)


 * Lol GoD Archive:A/P MoI Assacaster, learn to look first k pl0x? --F rosty 19:27, 20 December 2008 (EST)
 * This one was already vetted though, so yeah. -- 19:29, 20 December 2008 (EST)
 * As a different build lol? N/A =/= A/any, in RA I would say the energy management is much more needed that say splits or HB or AB/CM. In RA you need to keep chainging targets thus there being no time to recuperate energy (thats why LA and Necro sin casters are better there), but in GvG splits and HB you move around a lot meaning you don't have to take the e-management, N/A is much strong in RA/TA. --F rosty 19:31, 20 December 2008 (EST)

Can someone please explain to me
Why your using that particular elite on a bar that could give a fuck less about enchants or stances?
 * Because imba elites are ftw.  Life [[Image:Aura of Faith.jpg|19px]] 03:26, 22 December 2008 (EST)

hhhhhhhhh
heavy healer harrassment  —Ska Kid  16:02, 22 December 2008 (EST)
 * moo [[Image:Cute McMonkey.png]] Christmas  Tab  16:13, 22 December 2008 (EST)

lol
this survived the nerf XD Alpha fireborn 20:54, 5 February 2009 (EST)
 * SoLS should probably be out..-- Ikimono Needs more Paragon [[Image:Monk-Paragon-icon.png]] 12:20, 9 February 2009 (EST)