Archive talk:Team - Spiritual Discord

Overhaul
Because it badly needed it. It's usable now, I think. -- Jai's Crappy Christmas Sig  ... -  21:55, November 29 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes it is, but i would say it is far from optimal, your "Discord Prot" is really scary and this one doesn't make enough of hexes and condition on it's own. Suffering, Blood Bond, Lamentation and Dulled Weapon are good hexes and Oppressive Gaze is very good in conditioning. And could someone please archive the old part of the talk page to make this more clear? Master Elros 14:50, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * How many of these builds are out already? Did they not have a version of this went the site moved or something :3?
 * Yes, this is a page that was inherited from PvX@wikia. It got changed substantially afterward to bring it up-to-date, so it went back into testing. Toraen -Gifts Plz [[image:ToraenSig3.png|19px]] 09:44, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

putting discordway and spiritway together doesn't really mean anything-- talk  07:31, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Well this was actually around before PvX started to get other spiritway builds. Besides if the 7 hero update comes out it spirits and discord will have massive popularity in rolling PvE right? Master Elros 13:20, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with most above. However spiritway does show interesting possibilities for 6 hero expansion, especially if you see whats done with the sos rit in heroway balanced (took out restoration and made it util). This leaves a gap for a dedicated resto hero like in sabway, while we can also add the 2 mesmers from mesway to make a balanced 6. Just my two cents, I think ill try implementing that idea.Infin 22:45, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Bump
Needs to be vetted. Also may still be able to use some changes here and there. -- Jai' s Crappy Christmas Sig...  -  02:21, December 25 2010 (UTC)
 * If it needs changes(I agree it does) it shoulnd't be vetted yet right? Imo Dissonance and AoU optional. ALso I think this would be inferior to the normal discord build as rits dont synergize well with a team that needs heavy hexes/condtions. --Infin 13:06, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The channeling rit provides AoE hexes, and the necros themselves have plenty of hexes and conditions. Then there's the two player slots who would logically bring hexes and conditions of their own. The point of this has always been combining the DPS of spiritway with the spike power of discord. 6 discord necromancers gives you a stronger spike, but you usually do not need 6 discords to drop something alongside a decent caller bar. Toraen -Gifts Plz [[image:ToraenSig3.png|19px]] 21:37, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with Toraen. Actually, imo 3 discord nec heroes + caller are enough for the spike. I would bring a panic mes instead of a discord blood nec.VacaNeon 17:38, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The blood necro has the only real conditions to spam. So unless you're running an AP caller or something, it needs to stay. And since the hero builds are supposed to be as universal as possible, I'd say it should stay there. Besides, 4 Discords instead of 3 would be really helpful in a lot of areas, TBH. Also, one more vote plox. -- Jai . -  03:36, January 6 2011 (UTC)

Archive Proposal
Seems unlikely that people would run 6 discords in PvE nowadays? With advent of 7 heroes mesmers + RoJ > this? -- Chieftain   Alex  18:44, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd like to second this archive proposal. Not using at least a single memser is gimping yourself pretty hard most of the time, and this 2-man doesn't do anything that can't be done by an equivalent 7 hero team (one less discord, but 4 was unnecessary anyway). Of course, such a hypothetical team would still be inferior. Any objections? --  Toraen   talk  03:20, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Sir, no objection, Sir! --Master Elros 13:42, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I support archiving this, the team and dicord in general is vastly inferior these days. Projecting a 3-hero concept on a 7-hero team just doesn't work. Vorpal [[Image:Ether Renewal.jpg|19px]] 13:59, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm the one who wrote this up in its current form, and I see no reason that this shouldn't be archived. Though, Vorpal, this was created at before the 7 hero update, and the whole Mesmer-Rit core hadn't been developed. At the time, this was probably one of the most consistent builds you could run. -- Jai . -  14:02, July 12 2011 (UTC)
 * True but you said it yourself, time (read: mesmers) catched up =/ Vorpal [[Image:Ether Renewal.jpg|19px]] 14:25, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Yup, and that's why this needs to be archived. -- Jai . -  14:27, July 12 2011 (UTC)