Build talk:Team - Voltaic Spear Farm

For personal reference [1], [2], [3], [4] Athrun Feya  17:40, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

It's still a stub tbh.-- $ɧor₮  talk  17:43, September 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * if i trial it people can get to it and look at it and do it for me >> so yeah, its going in trial. Athrun [[image:Athrun_Sig.gif]]Feya  18:44, September 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * ohey you're using my video for the perma runner :o + ℓγ ss άή [rage]  21:18, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * looks good--Relyk 01:53, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

Way to take credit :> &rarr; BERKS deedle...   dum... |undefined 19:29, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * lol, couldnt give a shit. I just like having like 4 builds when 1 will do. I've also done the same for norn tourney. Athrun [[image:Athrun_Sig.gif]]Feya  19:42, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * Just add a AoE just as Grasping Earth, Deep Freeze? Confirm or Ommit?--Elf-e Elf.jpg 16:40, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * Grasping wouldn't work cuz it effects nearby enemies. | -- DarkMugen 16:21, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps: Illusion:12+1+3 // Fast Casting:9+1 // Inspiration:9+2 |


 * -- DarkMugen 18:18, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Since BUH got nerfed some time ago, wouldn't Battle Standard of Honor be a better choice?

Is it possible to use SS or mark of pain for VSF?--70.68.55.135 02:22, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

VSF Monk
[build prof=Monk/Mesmer Smiting=12+1+3 divine=8+1 insp=10][Arcane Mimicry][Arcane Echo][Ray of Judgment]["By Ural's Hammer][Auspicious Incantation][Balthazar's Aura][Mantra of Resolve][Smiter's Boon][/build]

I use this a lot for VSF and it works pretty well. I THINK it deals more damage. I don't know. Just tell me what you think DarkMugen 22:10, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * Smiters boon is completely random and unneeded. You can use it on one skill every 25 seconds. -- Drah 16:27, October 31, 2009 (UTC)


 * Damn. So they changed Ray of Judgment from SMITING to something else? CUZ YOU KNOW... ARCANE MIMICRY AND ARCANE ECHO ARE USED TO COPY ROJ. Its just there to heal a bit. I suppose you could replace it with EVAS| -- DarkMugen 17:43, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * Your fucking stupid. So who is Ray of Judgment going to have the double divine favor bonus for? The enemies? Why don't you think about what you are going to say before you try and make another stupid comment. -- Drah 17:44, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * Divine Favor only activates when you use a monk spell on an ally, since Roj's target restrictions are hostile only Divine Favor will not activate. Arcane Echo and Arcane Mimicry are not smiting spells and thus Smiters Boon will not trigger on them nor are the monk spells and so Divine Favor will not trigger either. GG DarkMugen, next time think before you speak. Troah 17:47, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * I lol'd irl [[image:Thunda_Sig_2.png|19px]] <font color="CornflowerBlue" face="Comic Sans" size="3">Thu <font color="IndianRed" face="Comic Sans" size="3">nda 17:51, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * Calm down guy. I retract my previous statement. GG, thx. Still, you didnt have to go off on me :p Troah, u can bite me as well | -- DarkMugen 17:52, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

i didn't reply to this earlier because i just looked and thought lolsobad. - <font color="CornflowerBlue">Athrun <font color="CornflowerBlue">Feya  13:07, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

if im not mistaken in the e-surge VSF doesnt the DS rit/ranger also have famine?or is it just me? Jush 17:02, November 12, 2009 (UTC) FS rit* not DS rit (grammar fail :S) Jush 17:04, November 12, 2009 (UTC) and i also think in the explosive sinway doesnt the BiP have mop also?
 * All the builds were grouped together in this one to give players a general standard to keep to (instead of several variants of the same thing). The builds created were often a compromise of the 4 builds original builds, with the most useful and universal skills kept. So yeah, there's a few skills missing but the overall effect of those missing skills is negligable. - <font color="CornflowerBlue">Athrun <font color="CornflowerBlue">Feya [[Image:Athrun snow sig.gif]] 14:52, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

And 1 more thing i think we need to tell them that RoJway is the most common build we dont want a noob guy going to the outpost and saying like "esurge LF VSF" since we're trying to help em right?-Jush

ebon standard of honor doesnt work with RoJ. RoJ=armor ignoring

Post-Nerf runner
Tested, one could run to the other side of the wall with this.. Maybe D/A with VoS could work too or E/A with OF or SF.. [build prof=Assassin/Ranger Shadow=12+1+1 Wilderness=12 Deadly=3][Deadly Paradox][Shadow Form][Dwarven Stability][Natural Stride]["I am unstoppable!"][Way of Perfection][Shroud of Distress][Deaths' Charge][/build] --
 * ...what's wrong with the signature? -Teknikaali
 * i have thought of a hero perma runner, can be brought by the N who suicides then the hero has just to pass the 1st group and pull the boss--


 * Try not to sign inside pvxbig tags, it prevents the signature from showing up. <font face="Courier New" color="Black">Toraen <font face="Courier New" color="DarkGoldenrod">TheJanitor [[image:ToraenSig2.png]] 19:28, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

What about this one? [build prof=Assassin/paragon Shadow=12+1+1 command=12 Deadly=3][Deadly Paradox][Shadow Form][Shroud of Distress][enduring harmony]["I am unstoppable!"]["fall back!"][heart of shadow][Deaths' Charge][/build] CaRnyVaL 11:26, 06 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I herd blocking is good Falrach 13:34, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Why not A/D??
Why secondary ranger if secondary Dervish have Conviction...+24 Armor and 50% block for 30 sec..We loose 33% of speed but instead we use a cupcake or a red/blue rock candy or something similar.And thanks to IAU that stack we have a total of +48 armor,that mean 70+48=118 = "damage" X 0.3660 = 63.4% of dam redux.And we dont need spam it because it stay up for +- 60sec if we have Epic Delver or Legendary Delver. Light Athena 13:52, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

I made a Video Demonstration for the perma runner using my build hope it helps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN92CpFKbXI

a/d
armor is capped at +24 unless otherwise specified
 * IAU is bugged and stacks on top of any other armor bonus so you get the armor from conviction & iau.--TahiriVeila 21:37, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

"A PUG-friendly way to farm Voltaic Spears"
Needs to be trashed for not being optimal. I thought that was the PvX way! Cuilan 15:38, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Ritualist Update
Consume Soul is no longer useable for the FS. Instead of taking Rupture Soul, you should take Gaze of Fury and another elite skill like Weapon of Remedy/Spiritlight Weapon/Xinrae's Weapon. Asassin factions 12:48, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

New Builds
Seeing as how the "Due to an update this build may no longer be viable." tag has been on this thing for awhile could some one plz find or edit these builds....I would like to do VSF myself but atm I cant because I have no idea how big of an impact that update had. --Abysal &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.51.173.211 (talk &bull; contribs) 14:08, 5 July 2011 (UTC).
 * Is anyone running VSF in Umbral anymore? If so, they probably have builds for the runner. Nukers would just have to drop BuH for some other skill. --  Toraen   talk  01:22, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, still frequent but not as much as before...Kasei 16:08, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

New Runner?
[build prof=Derv/Mo Myst=12+1+1 Wind=12+3][Pious Renewal][Dwarven Stability][Pious Haste][Vow of Piety][Mental Block][Pious Restoration][Holy V][Eternal Aura][/build]

Theorycrafted, is there enchantment removal down there? Sir John Bubblestone 03:49, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Scratch taht I'm tired. :P Sir John Bubblestone 03:58, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
 * doesnt look like it's going to work... at all. i guess you can faceroll by resing yourself to the wall lol. pious reastoration? rly? no. not rly. and holy veil? the fuck?--Saxazax 04:15, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

A/D Runner
Was the A/D runner build that was just added tested? It seems a little energy heavy, and without dwarven stability you have no cover enchantment for disenchantments or anti kd for trample. I'll try it in a second, but it doesn't seem like it will work that well. Flame48 03:05, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Tried the build, having to recast a 10 energy spell + the 25 needed for paradox left me with barely enough energy to use dash when I needed to while still being able to recast sf. If you can avoid the choking gas you don't really need signet of mystic speed, so that was pretty useless. Also, no cover enchantment made it a lot harder to survive the disenchants and no dwarven stability left me with 10 seconds where I could be knocked down. The a/e or a/r version is a much better build. Flame48 17:18, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Two runners for PUGs
how about in PUGs a party brings two runners

there, faster runs

thoughts?--Saxazax 01:15, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, it would be less of a chance to fail, but losing the damage will slow the run down some. I don't know if its worth it.-- Ultimak719 LIKE A BOSS!  02:15, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * well that's obvious. but even if the whole run takes 4.5 minutes instead of a perfect 3, then it's still completely worth it instead of having to wipe and give the whole party dp, or whatever, and having the whole thing take 6 minutes or more if the runner continues to fail.
 * two runners means the run never fails, the monk has an easier time keeping the runners behind the wall alive with things like healing seed, the bip has fewer people to bip, and the FS weapon of quickness has fewer people to maintain on also.
 * i think it's ideal in a PUG when you have no idea how good the runner is.--Saxazax 04:13, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * the only thing i can think of that could be a problem is if the damagers don't cast on the same target and can't get the healers down. so just cast on the same target.--Saxazax 04:18, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Problem is that perma is the hardest role to locate in umbral, usually 7/8 teams with glf perma, I can't see taking two making it much easier :( -- [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px|link=User:Chieftain Alex]] <font face="Calibri" color="Black" size="2.5">Chieftain <font face="Calibri" color=CC6633 size="2.5"> Alex  14:45, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * yeah; not to mention that pugs hardly form there anymore anyways.--Saxazax 22:58, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

great running build i made; doesn't need alcohol
[build prof=A/p sha=12+3+1 command=12 dead=3][Glyph of Swiftness][Shadow Form][Shroud of Distress][Dwarven Stability][Dark Escape][Godspeed]["I Am Unstoppable!"][Mental Block][/build]

uses the bug in HM where mobs will break if you have 2 speed boosts stacked on you at once. its really nice. ill upload a video of me running it if someone can link me to a free screencap program.

usage: put up everything except godspeed. run into first group of dwarves (the group before the next group with wretched wolves and centaurs) and wait for SF to recharge. then recast everything and run into next mob, with godspeed on you. half of all the monsters will break right away. run to the shrine and everything will break. wait for energy and recharges. put up everything again and run past next shrine as far as you can without aggroing anything in next room. you will have a few seconds to recast and stuff since most everything will have broken aggro off you. then run to wall. easy.

just ran this 5 times with different spawns in HM with no alcohol. so easy.

make sure you have a high energy staff 20% ench in case energy gets low.--Saxazax 05:56, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * nvm, spawns can mess it up--Saxazax 07:02, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol mate, A/E/P. nice try :( Chieftain Alex 13:35, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * whoops meant to put in deadly paradox--Saxazax 22:57, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
 * That makes much more sense xD but yeah I can see why you'd have energy troubles with shitty spawns -- [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px|link=User:Chieftain Alex]] <font face="Calibri" color="Black" size="2.5">Chieftain <font face="Calibri" color=CC6633 size="2.5"> Alex  23:35, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

team compression
It's possible to merge BiP and FS/EoE if a damager takes Gaze of Fury [build prof=N/R BloodMagic=9+1+3 SoulReaping=9+3 BeastMastery=12 WildernessSurvival=3][Blood is Power][Edge of Extinction][Frozen Soil][Ebon Battle Standard of Honor][Ebon Battle Standard of Wisdom][Well of Blood][Optional][Optional][/build]

[build prof=R/N BeastMastery=12+1+3 BloodMagic=8 WildernessSurvival=7+3 Expertise=8+3][Blood is Power][Edge of Extinction][Frozen Soil][Ebon Battle Standard of Honor][Ebon Battle Standard of Wisdom][Optional][Optional][Optional][/build] At least that's what I do when my group gets tired of waiting Fianchetto 00:37, 3 December 2011 (UTC)