User talk:Danny/MW3

Battlefield 3
That is all. ApplesaucePancakes 14:34, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * i hate this comparison. completely different games. small map lone wolf infantry twitch shooter vs massive squad based warzone &mdash; Skakid  Rally- kupo! [[Image:S9M.png]] 17:07, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * i just don't like bf3 because i can't be bothered to pay for two games and since COD tends to innovate upon itself to the tune of "not at all", i always know what i'm buying! Danny 05:06, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * im completely fine with MW3 being MW2-2. It's exactly what I wanted really. &mdash; Skakid  Rally- kupo! [[Image:S9M.png]] 05:58, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Danny I'll buy you BF3 when I get my next check since you offered to get me a booster on GA quite a few times (and I love you <3) ApplesaucePancakes 14:36, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * lol. thanks, but i'd really rather not have it. not really interested. unless you're playing on ps3 with me, that is. <3 Danny 02:26, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Type 95
Broken. 98.207.35.105 07:46, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The M16 is actually even more broken, but its iron sights are fucking horrid so the Type 95 wins. Danny 20:39, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * By that, I mean it reloads in 2/3 of the time and has a negligible drop time, as well as a tighter recoil. The Type 95 does have an RPM advantage, though. Danny 20:40, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Disregard this comment. I posted that before having played with each and the Type 95 is clearly the winner. Danny 14:04, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm going to buy a PS3 and MW just because urgay >:( rąʂKƴɖooƿɭɘş 14:22, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * <3 Danny 21:22, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

PP90M1
Imo beats the MP7 (they're both pretty fucking good though) just slam rapid fire/silencer and either riot shield or akimbo fmg as second, easy MOABs, it needs a nerf when you 1/4second kill even if you shoot them in the foot :\ Your snipe class is pretty much mine but i go MSR mainly because intervention was pretty much the only gun i used on mw2 towards the end. I don't get your killstreaks, though, i never really understood EMP (imo it kinda sucks unless you are just trying to get the title). Pred/chopper/ac310 or chopper/ac130/osprey ftw. Rawr 09:10, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * And on your dual shotgun build why run attachments for a holo sight? You don't need a sight on a shotgun surely range would be better? o_O Rawr 09:15, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * That build is set up exclusively for being the most retarded shit possible. I dare you to find a worse build. If you get a Pavelow with that shit, you fucking earned it. Danny 20:43, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Blowing peoples Osprey Airdrops out of the sky with an EMP is pretty hillarious. PewPew   QQ   13:57, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Its just... not as hilarious as the same tier killstreaks, but ones which you can use to kill people :D Rawr 14:40, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * ^All I ever understood of FPS was that you're supposed to kill the other guys before they get killstreaks. Falrach 16:35, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * MW3 sorta fucked that one. Danny 20:43, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Not sure about that. I had someone flame me for a solid minute in a lobby after I EMP'd his Osprey Gunner. Nothing says "fuck you" quite like that. Really, that's all I fucking use EMP for. Danny 20:43, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I run support because it generally means you'll win more often. In pub games on PSN, keeping the other team EMP'd means you'll win every time because most retards don't even have Assassin Pro unlocked for some stupid reason. The MP7 is easily better than the PP90 when it comes to stats, by the way. Larger clip, infinitely less recoil (see here), two-thirds the raise time, and better damage at range. The PP90's only advantage is fire rate, but the recoil map for the MP7 is just so fucking lulzy that fire rate doesn't matter. Honestly, I'd rather run the MSR but I don't see any reason to waste a token on it while I'm running through prestiges. (If you have a good reason, though, I'd definitely consider it.) Danny 20:52, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah hence why i said they're both pretty fucking good, I still prefer PP90 because higher fire rate essentially means a slightly faster kill at a short enough range meaning at the right distance, you have the advantage over MP7. And generally I only play smg on hardhat or similar where the amount of recoil doesn't matter at all (I play with silencer, anyway, so its miniscule as it is) as I don't really go for range. I'd say in general the MP7 is better, but for what I use it for (essentially just what SMGs are designed for but noone plays it as that :\) i prefer PP90 Rawr 13:46, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Oops, just noticed the MSR has half the reload time of the L118 and a quarter second advantage on scope-in. Definitely makes a bit of a difference. Danny 20:54, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * i always take specialist. 6 perks puts you in the zone &mdash; Skakid  Rally- kupo! [[Image:S9M.png]] 23:12, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * been trying out this methodology. i do sorta miss my EMPs and Predator Missiles, but it's not all bad. Danny 03:56, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Shotgun MOAB setups
So, after talking with some people, someone pointed out to me that using a properly setup Specialist shotgun class, you could pretty much roll shit because you get OMA, you'll have Damage AND Range. And the no need to sight-up on shotties means you even beat out the MP7 pretty easily. (Specifically, using the SPAS or Striker.) Thoughts? Danny 20:47, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * ppl still play mw with bf3 out? - Auron 03:33, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * What else would you expect when IW's demographics consist of nothing of but players with a lack of taste in games? Vincent Evan [Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 03:52, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * ppl still play bf3 with mw3 out? Danny 19:35, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * That's like asking if people still play Skyrim with Minecraft out. - Auron 09:20, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Bf3 is objective based and focuses on huge maps, mw is just silly gun fights on tiny maps. ApplesaucePancakes 14:24, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
 * you sound like someone with something to prove. personally, i just go where the tournaments are. if bf3 starts having the same competitive following and someone ended up buying it for me, i'd probably play it just the same as mw3. saying one game is worse than the other is just dumb. Danny 03:55, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Your point is very valid, and more power to you. Although, my dislike toward MW3 lies towards its demographics. The game itself is good mechanically. Fast paced on much more smaller but solid maps, while BF3 is much more large scale. The people of both games irritate me. Very nonsensical and irrational cunts that can't play their game worth shit. On higher scale, the players are still bad. They the play game straight-forwardly with quick reflexes. There is no method in how the play that's annoying. To each their own, I guess. Vincent Evan [Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 04:34, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I get most of where you're coming from, but I'm a little confused since every game pretty much relies on reflexes and some sort of straight-forward play. Danny 05:20, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I like BF3 but MW3 wins hands down for me with - more customisation, slightly faster matchmaking, pretty much all my friends play it, and BF3 doesn't have splitscreen online (i am pretty sure, anyway) and you are less likely to get silly 8 person multikills on bf. I mean BF is pretty fucking good and if i was a PC player anymore then I'd probably be with that but short fast paced games fit my lifestyle atm. In general I'd say BF3 is more of a "gamers" game which i havent time for these days! Rawr 09:35, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I really can't be arsed to cite any examples, but there are some games (to my knowledge) that have higher depth gaming. But what you say is very true for all shooters. The whole shooter genre is sub par to be honest. Have you tried Monday Night Combat? That's a pretty fun game. Vincent Evan [Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 20:56, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I play games to have fun, not because I want to write essays examining the detail that goes into them. "Depth" only means anything to me when it's regarding sexual intercourse. Danny 06:18, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I play to have fun as well, but I don't find shooters fun. D: Vincent Evan [Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 11:57, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

just fyi
if you haven't heard yet, the L86 with grip + thermal (and possibly kick + thermal?) is hilariously broken. It simply doesn't move when you're firing. Danny 10:45, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Its alright but its a bit of a gimmick, not as good at range as MSR and if you are good enough to quickscope people at med-closerange with thermal LSW, then you may as well still use the msr! Oh, the RSASS is pretty good btw, you just need to learn to double/triple tap fire instead of pressing it once and seeing what happens. I am fairly sure it doesnt have a limit on how quick you can fire Rawr 09:22, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * it doesn't. one of my friends has a modded controller and he uses it like an AR with an ACOG. it's fucking disgusting. i've actually just ended up going kick/grip with the L86 because it's beast enough. a bit of recoil to it, but that just makes it a headshotting machine. honestly, i wish i could quickscope more but playing any sort of ranged weapon without assassin is just painful on ps3. Danny 06:41, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

sth
i really ought to update this page. i've changed several classes to better fit particular purposes. i've also dedicated a slot to Santa Zone because it might be the most fantastic game type ever. Danny 12:17, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Santa zone = drop zone i take it? Its fucking amazing, it actually makes the XM25 (or whatever its called - the grenade gun basically) really useful. You can get blast shield to pro in 1 match if you just lie on the zone. I normally roll pp90 rapid fire + xm25, with blind eye, blast shield and any random last perk for it. Or, if you want to just want to farm your KDR up, just stand at a distance looking at the zone with a barrett. End up going like 100/4 that way, but still not many points :\ Rawr 12:28, 21 December 2011 (UTC) Rawr 12:28, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * XM25 + Recon = Recon Pro in one match. Is the pp90 rf really good enough to use over the pm9 rf? Danny 14:04, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Depends on the map, but for most of them yes, since in drop zone most of your targets are about 3 feet away and if you havent tried rf pp90 yet, try it - as i said earlier up, 1/4sec kill even in the foot. I'm starting to agree with you that mp7 is better for general play, though, pp90s poor range is annoying as shit. Rawr 14:17, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * alright, i'll try it out then. i think the PM9 has a higher RoF, but it might have a much smaller clip. Danny 21:23, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I think rechnically their ranges are similar but PM9 has much higher recoil so is worse at distance (btw, for my last post for some reason i thought you'd said MP7). Plus as you said higher RoF + smaller clip = you will get killed. The pp90's is a bit small as it is, worth running extended mags + rf if you don't need a silencer. Rawr 15:35, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * turns out the PM9 is abs shit. tried it and such a full .01 in my KDR before deciding that adjusting to the gun wasn't the issue. pp90 is pretty fucking badass as i've learned since you don't have to ADS with it ever. (still prefer MP7 and G36C for long-range engagements, but that's not a big surprise given the recoil plots for the guns.) Danny 06:15, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

updated
classes have been updated to take better advantage of strike packages. also threw in some lul ones because lul. Danny 06:12, 26 January 2012 (UTC)