User talk:LifeGuardian/Archive 3

First! Also congrats on nomination. Vincent Evan [Air Henchman]   22:36, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Rawr. Also screw you steamy. Life   Guardian  22:38, June 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * wat?-- Oskar 22:39, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * ECing me while im still fixing shit. Life   Guardian  22:41, June 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh i thought you were mad cause i cba checking your contribs for like ages.-- Oskar 22:46, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Come run ATFH for me, I just did all of NF and eotn in one day--TahiriVeila 03:16, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * I dont have eotn! RAWR. Life   Guardian  03:21, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * zomg zzzzzzzzz. have anyone on that can run it for me?--TahiriVeila 03:24, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * PI+Random heroes. Life   Guardian  03:26, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * No PvE skills i started eotn from scratch today =\ --TahiriVeila 03:27, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Calculated Risk+random heroes. Life   Guardian  03:40, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

new ign?-- Relyk  talk  23:44, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Piercing Reborn Life   Guardian  00:22, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * life gets mad at guild shittery!-- Relyk  talk  02:49, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's not really mad, it's more like LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLKISSLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Life   Guardian  02:51, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * mmm i thought danny was saying something about you hating your own guild rather than kiss/juze, since it's obvious how bad kiss is. QQ-- Relyk  talk  03:06, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Congratz on Adminship. Also, do you (or anyone else) know of any 'good' SCing guilds that are recruiting? I mainly do dungeons, I used to be pro any area sin for UW and FoW except MT before sliver SF updates, and would like to get back into them :o I have joined like 20 different guilds over the past 3 or so weeks, and all have either been really inactive or don't actually do any SCing like what they said when I joined.
 * Hes not an admin yet iirc-- Oskar 14:03, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ohh, he needs to accept it still, I read it wrong. :P --[[File:Samsig.png]] 16:30, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nope he already has, an admin needs to accept it (usually auron does it, as hes a bcrat aswell and pretty much what he says goes around here)-- Oskar 16:37, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * The candidate is put up for voting and a bcrat then reviews the rfa and promotes/declines the candidate* -- DANDY ^_^ -- 16:45, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Cool. "know of any 'good' SCing guilds that are recruiting?" Anyone? :o -- 17:42, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * LOD, DL, ANet is alright but kinda dead. Life   Guardian  20:33, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I saw Bal (balistic insertprofhere) in Droks, he's in Anet and asked me to doa for him and i was like.. QQQQQQQQQQQ i have no eotn so i cant doa...SADFACE its as if it is only sold in the online store for fricken $30 when the trilology is $40... ragemode engage -- [ đ|undefineda rk ch ao ş ] |undefined  17:47, June 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's on amazon for like 11 dollars. Life   Guardian  20:24, June 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * is it trustable? i was looking there and it seems like the excange is as secure as ebay - possibly no key in the box, etc.  [ đ|undefineda rk ch ao ş ] |undefined  03:03, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Amazon guarantees everything, just like eBay does. If the key isn't in the box, then return it and the company is required to refund you. Karate [[File:KJ for sig.png]] Jesus  03:05, 1 July 2010

Mr. Livet!
Could you get on MSN sometime soon? ^___^ Tomorrow or the day after that or so? :> -- DANDY ^_^ -- 13:41, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * yessir mr. chaos! Be on in a couple hours Life   Guardian  20:33, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * again? :< - Auron 04:46, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Your bad indenting confuses me. Life   Guardian  05:20, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

UW Balancedway
Wasn't written by me. Mine was in the userspace, where I was making edits and such. thats not my IP. Someone copy/pasted from my page.....-- Graz Says   Its time to DoA  06:26, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's why i replaced the WELL tag. Move yours back into the buildspace and put it in trial or something. Life   Guardian  06:28, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * I was planning on putting mine up anyhow, making edits/updating builds then I'm gonna put it into untesting. You an admin yet? cuz if your are it'd be pretty win if you delete that. -- Graz Says   Its time to DoA  06:35, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Grats
Welcome to the team =). Don't forget to add your details on PvX:ADMIN  ~ PheNaxKian talk  09:53, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Gratz Mr Life, now go ban Juze. -- Short 10:22, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * ^ pull a frosty except dont resign after-- Oskar 10:50, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

^______________^ Be strong! -- -Chaos- (moo!) -- 12:18, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Player Versus Enviroment.-- Oskar 12:20, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Congrats! Karate  Jesus  16:52, 1 July 2010

Gz! I'll leave the next one for you. Toraen TheJanitor 04:58, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * :> You should add to this page for me! Life   Guardian  05:03, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

gz, now i can be more lazy! Athrun Feya 00:49, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * How on Earth did I miss this when I came back?!? Somewhat late, but congrats Life! Vincent Evan [Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 04:07, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

YUMway
That was a really dumb way of doing it. Just copy it over when the new version is done. If you intended to move it to a new name then you should probably delete the talk page as well, but atm I have no idea what you were trying to do. <font color="#A55858">Misery  16:16, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * I had deleted both the build page and the talk page of the other build because graz was going to move his to YUMway(i think anyways). Someone then posted on the deleted talk page, making it again. Meh, i probably did something wrong. Life   Guardian  21:07, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * I see, so the other dude was dumb. <font color="#A55858">Misery  06:03, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yup. Anyhow Mr. Livet :) Someone keeps posting a Well tag on the build saying that its easy but slow, yet it is nto a SC bar. Can you tell this edit war to stop plz. And there was an innacurate rate saying it was slow also, which again has nothing to do with the bar. -- Graz Says   Its time to DoA  17:10, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Do something with it--TahiriVeila 18:10, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * also, use msn moar faggot--TahiriVeila 07:05, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ive been on a cruise with no Internet connection for the past week, blow me. Life   Guardian  19:46, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * You got adminned? :o I got zrank 1! :D <font color="#AA0088">Invincible  <font color="#AA0088">Rogue [[Image:Invincible_rogue_siggy.jpg]] 01:50, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeye, and..gz? i guess? lol. Life   Guardian  02:14, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

sorry
i keep ninjaing RC from you-- Relyk  talk  10:25, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

time to stalk
it would take me an hour and 30 min to drive to you. cya soon <3 edit: forgot login -<font color="Turquoise">BLUE LAZERS  Eat It  20:56, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * wat. Life   Guardian  21:05, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * have you ever been to Mianus,CA?-Baby Blue Lazer 23:16, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * No =/ Is this from that google maps thing for pvx? Life   Guardian  02:12, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Myanus? <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">02:27, 26 July 2010  (UTC)
 * Yes. I'm on the other side of the bay. -Baby Blue Lazer 06:02, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

"hurr durr" this is the first time I have seen this from u. Made me lol--<font color="#0000ff"> X <font color="#696969"> TREME 00:48, July 27, 2010 (UTC) -76.212.0.151 21:22, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hurr durr is dutch battle cry, I am not dutch?"herp derp"

noice--Oskar 17:33, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * Life so strong. Life   Guardian  05:37, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * you like playing on a big screen?--<font color="#0000ff"> X <font color="#696969"> TREME 10:12, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 24" :D Life   Guardian  10:28, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Full screen ftl. <font color="#A55858">Frosty 10:52, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Uhh, i play in windowed mode. Life   Guardian  11:51, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

How do we prevent guild power votes (where everyone in a guild votes on one build to push it through) on a build?--<font color="#0000ff"> X <font color="#696969"> TREME 13:13, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Same procedure as always. Post on their talk page, then post on the AN, then if they don't stop, troll them off the site. <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">13:34, 2 August 2010  (UTC)

Votes on Deep Physway
It is a n organized team that is trashvoting it just because they want to get it in trash without good reasoning. Can you please do something about it. Look at the last vote currently made. It exactly says:

Chaos Messenger

Last edit: 15:31, 02 Aug 2010 (EST) hey I was msn'd to get this into trash and I checked that lau and babes and some others voted low and all the high votes are bandwagon'd and lalala so this is actually a perfectly valid reasoning for this vote.

So, think that is valid? <font color="Blue">Shadow Form Slayer  16:34, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes. It's a bad build that a small group of very bad players run and there's no need for it to be on hte wiki since the there are much better, easier, faster builds available. We store the best, not the second best.--TahiriVeila 16:39, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * ^ also I think there is guild power voting on this crap as well.--<font color="#0000ff"> X <font color="#696969"> TREME 17:02, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Tahiri, if you think that only the fastest build should be stored, you better check other reason told in the talk, since I dislike it to C/P them here <font color="Blue">Shadow Form Slayer  [[Image:Shadow_Form~_Slayer.jpg|20px]] 17:25, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Its policy to only store the most effective builds, not the easiest to use.--Oskar 17:27, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Effectiveness can be seen in multiple ways <font color="Blue">Shadow Form Slayer  [[Image:Shadow_Form~_Slayer.jpg|20px]] 17:31, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

. It's also polite to link to diffs or section headers :> -- -Chaos- (moo!) -- 17:33, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't know if it was deliberate by you to take the "fastest"-aspect out of context and present it as the only argument Jake presented in disfavor of retaining physway. Let me just point it out again; "there are much better, easier, faster builds available"
 * Effective: Having an intended or expected effect. Here you go, the definition of effective. Now you can say alot of builds can be seen as effective, try to rethink that. <font color="Blue">Shadow Form Slayer  [[Image:Shadow_Form~_Slayer.jpg|20px]] 17:35, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Btw Chaos, coming here and complaining is somewhat the lowest thing you can do. Reasoning a build is 0-0 trash, just because people told you to do it, is not an EFFECTIVE way to make an argument <font color="Blue">Shadow Form Slayer  [[Image:Shadow_Form~_Slayer.jpg|20px]] 17:36, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

"Effectiveness can be seen in multiple ways" lol--Oskar 17:39, August 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hey, I haven't argumented one way or another about the build, I'm really just explaining how your argument is invalid, so please stop attacking me like that - it really doesn't give you any more factual weight and at worst just counts as a case of ad hominem. And please don't call that (this particular instance) complaining, when you once again show a complete disability to grasp how argumenting works. For the love of god, first you try to counter Jake's argument by taking a statement of his out of context then vaguely directing to a page that nobody will bother checking unless linked (and thus really just disregard it), which after you think that doing this will automatically be rectified if you attack my persona as an argument for your deeds validity.
 * Also, even if you would've went and defined the correct word, "efficient" (and not "effective"), I still wouldn't give a fuck if the definition allowed you to do some retarded policy-whoring out of this.


 * "Efficient", as defined by wictionary (sources be important!):
 * 1. Making good, thorough, or careful use of resources; not consuming extra. Especially, making good use of time or energy.
 * An efficient process would automate all the routine work.


 * 2. Using a particular proportion of available energy.
 * The motor is only 20% efficient at that temperature.


 * ^__________^ :DDDD this site is so much fun :> -- -Chaos- (moo!) -- 17:50, August 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * As I pointed out, it can be seen as it can be used to deal with quickness, tough damage, strong defense, (pug-friendly XD), and much more. It has many different aspects of how it has its expected effect. <font color="Blue">Shadow Form Slayer  [[Image:Shadow_Form~_Slayer.jpg|20px]] 17:41, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * pug friendly is to do with universality--Oskar 17:46, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * If you think so, then why do I see many votes with 0-3 universality? <font color="Blue">Shadow Form Slayer  [[Image:Shadow_Form~_Slayer.jpg|20px]] 17:47, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * nobody pugs the deep--Oskar 17:48, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * universality is weighted at 20% of the score so it doesn't really matter if you give effectiveness a 0. i bet life loves his page getting trolled :D-- Relyk  talk  17:58, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * he can stick it in a random archive and hide it under a million redirects--Oskar 18:00, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * It is bad we are yelling here, on someones user page. I think that you shoudln't downgrade physway just because it is some minutes slower. I do agree with the fact that the deep is not favored, especially by pugs. The only time you can get a possible group is on the days the bounty is there. <font color="Blue">Shadow Form Slayer  [[Image:Shadow_Form~_Slayer.jpg|20px]] 18:04, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * im not yelling. and you just basically said "you shouldnt do that instead of this just because that is a bit better" lol--Oskar 18:09, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * We are using someone's talk page for our own <font color="Blue">Shadow Form Slayer  [[Image:Shadow_Form~_Slayer.jpg|20px]] 18:10, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Just wondering, where is the ad hom? --Crow 18:14, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * shadow slayer implied chaos was trolling-- Relyk  talk  18:39, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey crow, I saw you playing bc2 today ^_______^. Also bf3 is official!. Also idc if this is life's page, this section is hijacked. <font color="#A55858">Frosty 18:41, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Fuck off Relyk. FSMM ^O^ --Crow 19:07, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

dandy said he explained this to crow via msn or something. i would've c/p'd it, but my computer bluescreened so fuck it. Daññy 19:14, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I still don't see the ad hom btw! We talked about it but I'm still of the opinion that there isn't one. --Crow 21:07, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

So, instead of coming to my page and starting tons of useless drama(although i guess i can't get mad anymore cuz loladmin), you should probably just talk to chaos. qqing on an admin's page is not what you should be doing to solve disputes. Last i checked(mind you this wasn't today), all the votes had valid reasoning with no reason to remove. PvX doesn't care if one group of people powervotes it into/out of a category as long as the reasoning is sound. If the reasoning is flawed and a great build is pushed into trash, the votes are removed. In this case, there has not been a flaw in the reasoning. Life  Guardian  22:33, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Your using my account??????
=D-- Ellven  Arrow   Swoooosh  21:16, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Thank you for that btw :p. Life   Guardian  22:34, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * as long as your breaking records and making use of my non existent play time im okay with it. =D--[[Image:Arrow Barrage.jpg|19px]] Ellven  Arrow   Swoooosh  07:47, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

random thought
how fast do you think a 2 man spiritway+panic mes+random healers could clear uw in nm?-- Relyk  talk  11:37, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Uhh, it would crumble at wastes and pits. Probably not possible. Life   Guardian  12:10, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

FK U
 * I wouldn't want to have to ban dear crowels. <3 Life   Guardian  03:53, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * crow cant be banned-- Relyk  talk  06:36, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * crow's been banned before. argument invalid. Daññy 22:09, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * JE MOEDER.

To answer the question about 2-man spiritway with panic and 1 healer, we cleared it in 58 minutes with pcons. Innoruuk 22:43, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

guess what


I only wiped 3 times! might be unfair since pi+spirits but whatever-- Relyk  talk  10:38, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Steamy/Oskar
What does it take for disciplinary action to be taken against regulars?  Minion  00:47, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * It was 1 revert(however stupid). If he had done it again lolban. Life   Guardian  00:51, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * i dont want to be banned :)--Oskar 00:53, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * you're a vagina. real men don't fear 1rv. Daññy 07:53, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * it was nothing to do with the build, i just dont like excluded--Oskar 13:27, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

FoW
The 15 minute "record run" is totally fake. You open the forest chest at 15 minutes, then you're suddenly doing Griffons and at Taeres, keeping in mind you can use /age at forest then just look at the chatlog again to see the same time as you were in forest. Also, what the heck is that Rt/P doing there anyway? And you're dumb for doing this. <font color="Blue">Ju <font color="Blue">ze  07:54, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * You are a fucking autist who doesn't know what he's talking about so shut up please ^^-- Relyk  talk  07:57, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Personal attacks? <font color="Blue">Ju <font color="Blue">ze JuzeAvatar.jpg 08:01, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * You are a fucking autist who doesn't know what he's talking about so shut up please. Also i usually just rollback manly spike without looking at it whenever someone edits it. Also also, You do realize you dont have to open the chest when you open tower? Also also also you're right it's a fake. Rt/P is for fall back for griffons/rasti because we dont suck and dont need eoe. And finally, stfu or gtfo. Doubting me in fow is a very bad idea Life   Guardian  08:04, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Got it now. Taking the Rt/P to Manly Spike talk. <font color="Blue">Ju <font color="Blue">ze JuzeAvatar.jpg 08:08, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Silly life
I voted on the pb build first, THEN archived it xD--TahiriVeila 15:22, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Build talk:Team - Simuway FoWsc
$10 that bond made it-- Relyk  talk  06:18, September 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * You owe me $10. Life   Guardian  06:25, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

$10 that KISS says they made it Daññy 16:47, September 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wasn't Juze their only voice on PvX? I think Life's €20 up. Minion Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg 17:20, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 10$ Says I like pie and Danny. Pay up bitches. <font color="#B22">¬ Docta Rask <font color="#700">Jenkins  17:27, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Aren't you from KISS? I just pretty much assume everyone who plays in the PvE section too much is in KISS. Also, you'd be surprised with the number of faggot IP wars we have over build claiming. Daññy 19:52, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * The picnic pioneers own all builds. <font color="#A55858">Frosty 09:29, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Me? Fuck KISS :P <font color="#B22">¬ Docta Rask <font color="#700">Jenkins  19:10, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * no see...it was to Minion...cause the indent was one less. See...thought you knew this by now?--<font color="#0000ff"> X <font color="#696969"> TREME 21:02, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * When I get bored, I go on "holiday" to KISS occasionally to troll. I don't associate with them :p Minion Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg 15:42, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Stop doing that for your own good. Trolling the Retard Conglomerate is akin to slapping a whore with your cock. No one cares, it isn't cool, and you might have gotten herpes. Daññy 19:11, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * strong :>--Oskar 20:31, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Vloxen?
Oy i need to do HM vloxen for book + title. What's best way to do it? Sabway + cons? I've heard manly spike can work but i don't have all the bars or tactics--TahiriVeila 03:19, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * I did it with spiritway on an ele and think i only had like 2 deaths. Bring FS and hope you can spike shit down well enough to outlast Bellok. Life   Guardian  03:29, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * mkay, remember how long it took?--TahiriVeila 03:45, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Over an hour iirc. I dont think i was trying for speed but second level was 30 and third was 7. Dunno about first. Life   Guardian  03:55, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

You know that fame caps at 40/win right? =P--TahiriVeila 20:39, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * I blame the quick glance I took at the chart on gww without reading the titles or the equation for over 13. Life   Guardian  23:01, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Following the recent tradition of posting terrible songs on everyones talk pages:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDZmY9B5QrA&NR=1 --Oskar 19:46, September 7, 2010 (UTC) hJDLRCXR2ZM Pushing a truck up a hill is actually quite hard.-- Relyk  talk  22:15, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * So, so painful. Life   Guardian  22:19, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Personally, I loved the Ghost Ridin' song. :> Daññy 16:38, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ilu guys. <font color="#B22">¬ Docta Rask <font color="#700">Jenkins  17:26, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

MSN me
for some reason, it won't let me add you. :< Daññy 06:21, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm confused. I've talked to you on msn before D: Life   Guardian  06:29, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * If you're on MSN on a daily basis, then your MSN is fucked up. I've paid attention to you never being online, Pidgin says last seen 35 days ago. -- DANDY ^_^ -- 08:24, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * whats ur msn life <3 Sex and Waffles 16:16, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * it's on PvX:ADMIN <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  23:57, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Build:Team - Slaver's Exile Heroway
i'm tempted to well it for spiritway but that would be mean-- talk  00:20, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * lol the numpty author had put on the wrong side of the titles too. Meant that the contents table was broken. --Chieftain Alex 00:27, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

yo faggot teach me how to t1/t2
Might as well learn how to do fow sometime--TahiriVeila 00:36, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

FoW question.
Hey Life, I know you're the go-to guy when it comes to FoW, so I was wondering what the best build for a beginner R/A Terra would be? I've got plenty of experience as an A/E Terra and am able to easily get <20 minute A/E times, I'm just looking to change some things up for the fun of it. Also, are there any changes of Tactics I should be mindful of? (other than popping personal cons)

any help at all would be great. Thanks :) 209.240.181.170 07:31, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It really depends on what role you plan on doing. R/A can do t1, t2, and t3, although i would only recommend using it for t1 and possibly t2. When running an r/a t1, you should always know your t2 because it is very difficult for a ranger to do camp/priest. Have your t2 do this while you take slaves and hunt quests. If your t2 is slow or your mt is slow and you think youll have plenty of time, go ahead and kill beach wolf/cave wolf before continuing on to burning and tos. Burning is very simple. Run in, gather up all the quest monsters and hit whirling. Everything on you will die in about 2 seconds. ToS can be a little tricky depending on what bar you choose to run(many work although they have varying amounts of defense). Get the rangers in a perfect stack and then dc to them, hitting WD when the abyssals reach you. You want to be sure that you dont kill any mesmers, same as always. R/A t2 is straightforward. No special tactics needed anywhere, and for khobay you can just walk up to him and WD. T3 is a more difficult role, and the ranger is only good at it half the time. Skeletal Berserkers happen to be extremely lucky when hitting through blind with wild blow, thus canceling WD on more than half of your runs when trying to kill bridge. I would avoid t3 until you become more experienced with the ranger bar. When it comes to builds, you can make them as defensive as you want, and remove defensive skills as you see fit. Something along the lines of this would probably work well your first time.  If you have any more questions or need a more in depth explanation or something, feel free to ask.

Life Guardian 07:55, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply, but thanks for all the extremely helpful info. I've now ran R/A T1 three or four times and the results are epic.
 * It's really not as difficult as I expected it to be... The only part I've had trouble with is at ToS, the Abyssals scatter before WD rapes them, so I've had to use the wall trick to kill them first, then the rangers. I think BuH would be a thousand times better than Dark Escape or Unseen Fury and may help with the scattering issue. In any case, thanks a million for the info. :) 209.240.181.170 08:36, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd say, that if you think your exp enough you should use something like this, as it's seen as the best bar for the job. making sure you dc to the rangers in a way the abyssals are wallblocked also helps. just what my exp with it taught me.Falrach 13:11, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * If stuff doesn't die without buh and finish him then you are doing something wrong, that bar isn't "seen" as being the best bar for anything, there are way better alternatives to defensive skills than what you run.. Paranon15 13:54, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * if this is gonna turn into a /cry thread about PVE bars, would you mind taking it to a page I'm not watching, like maybe the FoW team build page? Danny 19:11, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

forge HM
It took me 20 minutes first try aggroing a couple extra groups. You've been exaggerating how hard it is!-- Relyk  talk  08:29, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Warrior=SY. Plus i got shitty spawns when i last did forge. I had to fight the summit at dark watcher and the summit were in a really lame position at both the doors. Give me screen so i can show it to a friend though <3 Life Guardian 21:35, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * actually i recorded it for fun since i was bored: http://www.xfire.com/video/3e2c02/ The sound screws up due to lag nvm its in NM, i feel so bad now. ill go do it again-- Relyk  talk  00:24, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * zzz explains why i didnt wipe, god i suck-- Relyk  talk  00:46, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I can confirm forge HM takes 30 minutes lol-- Relyk  talk  01:30, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll need to be getting on the hard stuff for hall shit... sigh... Akio

zsch
-- Relyk  talk  09:01, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I feel like im missing something. Life Guardian 09:44, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * not the only one.... <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  14:53, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It just looks like a really fucked-up seesaw. -- Jai . -  20:22, January 17 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks powerful. The word just has umph. Akio
 * I was bored, its related to the Tuscon shooting-- Relyk  talk  06:12, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Silly Kyler can't spell Tucson right. -- Jai . -  06:49, January 21 2011 (UTC)

another random pic when i was bored-- Relyk  talk  11:51, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

update
buh is vengeance on steroids QQ-- Relyk  talk  00:39, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Will be funny to see people rezzing with this when their UA monk is still scrabbling for the cancel icon. -- [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px]] <font face="Calibri" color="Black" size="2.5">Chieftain <font face="Calibri" color=CC6633 size="2.5"> Alex  00:55, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Good riddance to UA. Also lol at vengeance AoE; that's actually epic of Anet to make a non-strippable, insta-res. Vengeance+We Shall Return= gg Minion Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg 01:05, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

it only took one day to fix buh AND a "localization error" with zealous sweep-- Relyk  talk  09:39, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Update Endurance Scythe
For just general spam and deep wound.

Bring strength of honor and you'll be fine for aura slicer condition. body blow is strong spam.

The last option is bring staggering force and using eremite's attack to get cracked armor... Or you can simply bring weaken armor on a hero and spam body blow until dw gets inflicted. dw is more important now since you dont do loldamage, but its not like it needs to be main bar. Since you want soh, probably bring a curses hybrid healer; that isn't a good idea for a generic bar though. y/n?-- Relyk  talk  07:15, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

foundry hm


24 of those minutes were spent picking off fury group because i was terrified of wiping-- Relyk  talk  00:45, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * are we acting like gw pve is still hard or something? Danny 23:36, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Its foundry HM with heroes. Its pretty frickin hard. Life Guardian 23:50, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * psh. we had 2-man HMs back when i left the game. with the retarded updates they've released since, you can't tell me it's that bad. Danny 04:49, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
 * If you want an idea, the team build used 3 players, one abusing the now-nerfed aohm and an imbagon, and with cons in NM.-- Relyk  talk  05:59, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
 * my memory's fuzzy, but I recall being able to SF/bonder or SB/bonder everything including veil, no? Danny 21:10, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
 * That was before sb and holy wrath nerfs, and this is actually killing shot the standard way instead of 600/smite. Life Guardian 21:35, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
 * doesn't sound nearly as dramatic or cool. Danny 20:03, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Hey!
Fuck you. -Mason 68.190.182.243 09:40, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * umad? Life Guardian 09:44, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * So mad. 68.190.182.243 09:59, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I heard you like buttsex, I like buttsex too. You want to buttsex?! 68.190.182.243 10:06, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll get the lube and the camera-- Relyk  talk  11:09, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll bring a chair and watch. -- Jai . -  01:33, March 18 2011 (UTC)

bots
check user them after you block them. Normally (bot) accounts are created in bulk on the same IP, so you can save time. For instance, the last guy you blocked for being a bot had ~15 other accounts on the same IP, 5 of which had been blocked for being bots (and another 5 or so temp blocked for link spamming (which i'd have just called a bot and perma'd, but meh)) so it's a fair assumption the others were bots too (of course, the fact they were all created in a shortish amount of time, and had the same system information helped with that). <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  01:03, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Derp, hadnt thought of that. Thanks for the tip lol. Life Guardian 01:57, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
 * No prob. You've only just gotten CU so it might take a while to remember it =p. It's generally self explanatory, but if something about it confuses you just ask me or one of the other admins. <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  02:14, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

WoC
Epically boring. Dunno why i thought it might be mildly interesting. 98.207.35.105 04:13, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Feedback
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GR
Have you seen PvEvolved yet? I'm thinking of writing a bogroots script or something. Know any other dungeons that aren't retardedly complicated and long but still have decent rewards? I could write one to clear FoW normal mode mega easy, it would just take ages to put together. ApplesaucePancakes 16:47, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Dungeons giving decent rewards? Lolgoodjoke. Is this solo or a full team? 206.110.20.2 17:23, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Full Team of heros. I got lair of the snowmen fully automated. I can do bogroots with ease if I get a decent team build set up. ApplesaucePancakes 03:01, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Bogroots is probably the only worthwhile one. I would say slavers or shards but those are going to be much more difficult to code id think. 98.207.35.105 07:44, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Kath is pretty ez. hammers+ emmy. ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 08:17, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Find friends who are better at botting. There have been Slavers bots pretty much since a 1-man build was made for it. Danny 20:53, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * ^ I could make a slavers' bot for normal mode, but hardmode would require consets and tons of fucking candy canes, just a money sink in the end. :\ ApplesaucePancakes 15:16, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Slaver's is easy; if you can program flags for each hero so they're always spaced out, plant their spirits with an adjacent range away and then move back a few so not to get hit when they target the spirits..... Is that even possible? ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 17:08, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Probably shouldn't be discussing botting here. --  Toraen   talk  17:47, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

i've
missed you life.. :'( also. gw2. yes or no. how you been. hows' the kids. etc.  A kio    04:50, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Question
Have you ever tried a 100b/MoP with an R/A main tank? Whirling for groups with tons of ranged attackers, 100b for large groups of melee mainly. Thinking about putting together a nifty team farm. 03:09, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Been there, done that. Though we just used R/W 100b (EoE), A/E tank and Mo/N bonder cuz shit hurts in HM. There's surprisingly little you can reliably farm, and wild blow is like the #1 skill on warrior npc's. For fow N/R and R/A works fine though. Falrach   Talk   15:26, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Maybe blind the warriors before using WD? I'm pretty sure you can just do that while they're separate from the ranged ball and then bring them together for the spike with DC. Although using Whirling at all seems redundant if you're going to be bringing a 100b/VoS anyway. -- Toraen   confer  16:07, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Whirling remove isn't the problem. DP remove is, and throw dirt doesn't recharge fast enough. Besides that, even A/E with stoneflesh and AoE couldn't tank much if you weren't popping cons. We tried farming echovalds, but wardens hit like a truck. Falrach   Talk   17:08, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not talking about farming general shit, I'm talking about popping cons and farming elite areas, and rangers have more defense than assassins zzz [[Image:They.jpg|36px|link=User:They]] 21:31, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Like I said, N/R with SS, mop, eoe and cleanup works like a charm combined with R/A for FoW. DoA is well known, UW get a rit. Urgoz, only if you know wtf you doin. Falrach   Talk   22:13, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * SS doesn't work in hard mode. [[Image:They.jpg|36px|link=User:They]] 22:33, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * It does for cleanup, off dmg and lone foes. Falrach   Talk   17:34, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

I don't believe what you're describing is going to be as effective as you might think. Generally, a spike team is going to be able to kill things faster and more reliably than WD would. I know that either sliver or WD has been used in the past to kill off stray foes or all the melees or ranged foes with different ranges, but i dont think that its ever really been used as the main spike. A caster spike is going to cover a larger area as well which would cut down on balling time because the ball doesn't have to be as tight. Life Guardian 19:01, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
 * MoP get's triggered by whirling like 20 times a second + EoE, all you have to do is pop whirling and then move through the group essentially to drop them all below 90%. [[Image:They.jpg|36px|link=User:They]] 23:08, 13 June 2012 (UTC)