Archive talk:Team - TA Escape Daggers

this is pretty much meta atm. Drahgal Meir 17:56, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * bump Drahgal Meir 23:05, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't like the skills 3-5 on the monk but yea this will work...good offense defense is good :o BLUE LAZERS   Eat It User-Baby Blue Lazer sig pic.jpg‎ 06:28, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * you need draw some where, vig is lol with escape daggers, and mending touch is good condition removal? Drahgal Meir 08:03, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * shielding hands against other r/a?--Relyk 09:24, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Beat this as shovespike & balanced [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]P WNAGEMUFFIN   crabs  20:55, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, isnt this pretty much [this] with a mb ele instead of the necro [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]P WNAGEMUFFIN   crabs  21:01, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

and this is a build where life sheath shines. Primal is still a definitive counter however, so probably not best to use during euro-hours. --Readem 01:14, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

why life sheath?
with just 3 prot? Illoyon 11:37, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * tactics is 3, prot is 11+1  Terran  20:55, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

lol sry Illoyon 22:06, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * no guardian=ur gona get rolled by R/A lamer teams that are way too popular [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]P WNAGEMUFFIN   crabs  01:00, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Not really a mate of mine showed me this screen of a good friend/guildie of his wins last week. PVX-Zuko 16:00, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * LS monk cant handle pressure [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]P WNAGEMUFFIN   crabs  17:04, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * o.O Drahgal Meir 17:05, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * And ur screenie shows a balanced team, which doesnt need guardian. THis team does because of ls (u run out of energy fast) [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]P WNAGEMUFFIN   crabs  17:05, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * WoD is better than E/Me here srsly [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]P WNAGEMUFFIN   crabs  17:06, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * LAWL ITS NICKLESS LAWL THATS UR FRIEND? haha i just beat him yesterday doing shove with kira, 2 times ^ ^ [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]P WNAGEMUFFIN   crabs  17:07, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * His team was pretty tuff to beat though [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  17:07, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * stfu, seriously you don't need to post 50 times all within a minute. Everyone but the monk is immune to physical pressure meaning that the ranger will be focusing on your monk which = no WoH or Guardian. Thus LS is far superior. Drahgal Meir 17:09, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

u r the biggest scrub muffin guy. This is also better with either 3 rangers or WoD. --<font color="Black">Readem 17:30, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * No WoD=no faint=warriors stick to u and mow you down since they cant get eles or ranger [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  18:29, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * also @ Drah, ranger will also be focusing on E/Me, gud rangers go /Me and have magebane, leech and/or blackout and/or inspire hex. Ele can't 40/40 everything, so it is easily disrupted [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  18:30, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * A single E/Me is too easy to counter, especially with the more balanced groups that i been facing. Mainbar the WoD instead. Barbs is also overrated, the current variant wod lacks defense (return would be gud) [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  18:47, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * you cant magebane everything <small style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Verdana;border-style:solid;border-width:2px;border-color:#BEBEBE;background-color:black;padding:1px 5px 2px 6px;"> Terran  20:48, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

shut up muffin you're a fucking scrub and seem to think you have an idea what you're talking about because you shove and lame. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Rawrawr Dinosaur 21:13, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * No i DO know what im talking about cause I faced this as balanced and rolled it as a magebane? We only had issues when facing up against WoD. You're pretty bad if you think a single E/Me is hard to disable [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  21:48, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, trying to up red bar using a LS bar is energy intensive unless you face a fail ele spike team [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  21:57, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * What the fuck are you talking about. I never said e/me is not hard to shut down. LS is good if you dont fucking suck at monk (ie the people you play with, ur in one of the worst TA guilds in the game for gods sake) Rawrawr Dinosaur 22:00, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Also; when magebane is camping you you just don't be an idiot and cancel your skills, zzz not shut down. Rawrawr Dinosaur 22:00, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * How exactly do you keep your energy up tryign to redbar when your getting camped by R/As or Warriors (in the case of balanced, you also face 24/7 deliberating shot) [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  22:04, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * And no kidding im in one of the worst TA guild, there's pretty much no1 in it. Ironically we still beat gud ppl lol buildwars [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  22:05, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * What the fuck are you even talking about. Versus balance, your woh will be dshot anyway (unless you cancel it which will just burn energy), so i'd rather have patient + LS than patient by itself. You want a freaking woh monk in a team with no condition removal therefore will have to take a condi removal anyway, which btw ALSO COSTS 5 ENERGY. What the fuck are you on about LS has harder energy than woh, whats the difference between redbar + elite condi and elite redbar + condi? Rawrawr Dinosaur 23:26, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * First of all if the balanced ranger can pew pew woh then chances are theres no way you can win with your LS either. What i been trying to argue is WoD>E/Me here ... [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  23:33, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Btw woh probably wont get dshotted when ranger is fainted [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  00:04, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * To be completely honest, I've never seen a decent build run with LS in arenas, where WoH wouldn't be better. Dshot counters everything, get over it.  <font color="Red">Ben <font color ="Cyan">..Squint  00:49, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Dshot doesn't counter this? Drahgal Meir 00:56, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * No, anyone decent counters this, because you can't heal. <font color="Red">Ben <font color ="Cyan">..Squint  00:58, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * And with WoD and WoH you can get both heals in and tons of utility while shutting down during critical moments, so replace E/Me with WoD [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  01:53, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * You can change it yourself right? x_x' BLUE LAZERS  Eat It User-Baby Blue Lazer sig pic.jpg‎ 01:57, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

ENOUGH WIKI DRAMA I put the midline as an optional with WoD, a third R/A, and a Mind Blast. Plz put this back in gr8 now. Drahgal Meir 02:38, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * I suck at wiki, monk needs variants fixed b/cause the WoH version has 10 prot prayers with no prot skills, and the mini bar is different from the main bar :> BLUE LAZERS  Eat It User-Baby Blue Lazer sig pic.jpg‎ 02:45, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

shut up faggots --<font color="Black">Readem 02:46, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * well at least i never NPAed on this page, unlike some ppl [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  21:06, September 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * QQ   --  -Ch  ao  s-   21:10, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * See when I try to use the big thing I get a spam filter that blocks me [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  21:12, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * I think the cap goes at 4 big tags, so I used 3. I even tried to work around it with a "font-size" command but it hates me. Originally I had 7 tags :> -- -Ch  ao  s-   21:51, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Push to ban shitters who have no idea what theyre talking about Rawrawr Dinosaur 21:39, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Sigh....if you really think a E/Me and LS with 2 R/A is better than a WoD and a Woh then you fail [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN    <font color="Green">crabs  22:00, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Care to read what i said, at all btw? Rawrawr Dinosaur 22:01, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Why the hell do you just think i was backing everyone up? I made a different point, you're just a complete tard o_O Rawrawr Dinosaur 22:02, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Because u posted "ban shitters..." on a TA escapeway discussion page? [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  22:06, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Uh... of course "ban shitters" means that i believe e/me and LS is better than WoD and WoH. Of course not, all the other fucking comments i've made on this page. ZzZzZzZ Rawrawr Dinosaur 22:07, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * All your other statements involve calling me a shitter or saying that LS was better, even though i was putting in perspective of WoD + WoH. Nothing else points to any other fact other, so i assumed u were talking about the E/ME ect s= [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  22:12, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

cool story gais
Muffin is an autist, all agreed?--TahiriVeila 22:19, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * +1 -- <font color="Black">Drah 22:20, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Why does every1 hate me and troll me :'( [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  22:23, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * You aren't getting trolled dumbass Rawrawr Dinosaur 22:24, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * People aren't trolling you, people are flaming you for failing hard -- -Ch  ao  s-   22:28, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * ^ -- -Ch  ao  s-   22:28, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Because of semantics or because of the fact that i think wod + woh is better than E/Me + ls [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  22:38, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * I didn't even go contemplate your points, I just observed your behavior and went meh. -- -Ch  ao  s-   22:41, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * I still don't see why this gets ppl so worked up. It's a game site for builds >.> [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  22:50, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * "I still don't see why this gets ppl so worked up." You're getting as worked up as everyone else. -- <span style="font-family:mistral, cursive;">Frosty  <span style="font-family:mistral, cursive;">Mc Admin  22:52, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * How? I don't go around "flaming" people and all I did was to try to explain my viewpoints? [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  22:52, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Anyways back to the originating point that I was trying to make, WoD+WoH>E/Me+Ls with 2 R/A [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  22:53, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Look at the fucking variants..205.132.248.3 23:17, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Gratz ip guy, variants added after i posted on the Wod stuff. The previous line is made to draw discussion back to build [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  23:25, September 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * If you wasn't so worked up, you wouldn't care. -- <span style="font-family:mistral, cursive;">Frosty  <span style="font-family:mistral, cursive;">Mc Admin  23:43, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * So you're saying u can't care about anything without being worked up [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  01:27, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * If you care about something and you're not worked up, you sure as hell don't care very much. Life   Guardian  01:31, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * Fighting over someone's reason for fighting is fucking amazing. <font color="Red">Ben <font color ="Cyan">..Squint  01:34, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok u know wut im done with these random stuff go back to build discussion [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  01:44, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Lol Nurf?
So, since Escape now ends when you hit with a melee attacks, should the Escape Daggers be changed to Expert's Dexterity, or is that option not powerful enough for PvP? --98.232.76.90 01:45, September 19, 2009 (UTC)
 * Just archive it. 24.6.127.61 01:47, September 19, 2009 (UTC)