Archive talk:R/D Expert Scythe

Izzy just buffed half a dozen c-space builds while doing nothing for front/midline bars that take half a brain to use :(--Golden Star 21:48, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
 * God bless his little heart. :> --71.229 21:51, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Good thing i just earned 80 tourny points for 16 zkeys worth 76k-ish to cap all these post-cruddy elites [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]P WNAGEMUFFIN   crabs  23:30, 7 August 2008 (EDT)


 * inferior to wota scythe? --Thc 18:52, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
 * ... Different profession completely. This has poison. Is not reliant on enchantments to DW. And is less squishy. so no don't say stupid things Dutchess of Rose aka  lukejohnson  - talk 19:19, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Also WotA got changed to only effect daggers Luminarus 22:45, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

You can only have one preparation at a time. Did you even test this build? Kiteeye 19:58, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Expert's Dexterity was changed, it's now a Stance and is an IAS. I don't really see how this is better than the Escape or Wounding Strike Scythe as this doesn't offer blocking or IMS. Sure, your IAS is constant, but Crippling Victory is unreliable and Rending Touch+Pious Assault will hurt when your team uses enchantments (Strength of Honor, Orders, Aegis, Tainted Flesh, etc.) unless you run a team without enchantments (and the spirits+rits), which isn't likely in PvE, TA and GvG. ــмıкε  нaшк  20:15, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Lol. rend enchantments is good full stop. And constant IAS is VERY good witha a scythe and crippling victory is enough of an anti-kite. And remember you can always target swap like a man with brains Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 05:21, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

Build is interesting, but you may need to review some skills to make it a "great" build: "Mystic sweep" with no enchantment and furthermore combined with "pious assault" & "rending touch" ... are you sure ? "Eremite's attack" is a good PVE option, but is not as efficient in PvP (except AB, may be...). As mentioned above, an IMS would be great (ever seen a great working build without ?).--Lna 08:52, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
 * U think using mystic wityh no enchantment is bad? lol wut? And You have snare which is generally reliable, and going to be hard to remove with mending touch or an RC on you Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 09:56, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

(Obviously) the build is great as it is but would be better with condition removal and IMS. Antidote Signet comes to mind for condition removal (effectively freeing up some rune/mod slots, too). The IMS seems impossible as enchantments and stances are out of the question. - We Heart Katamari  01:17, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

This is a pretty bad build. What exactly is the reason for running this over a D/x? Its only advantage is Apply, and that's outweighed by all the ones a derv has. This has no IMS (Crip Victory isn't good enough to remove the need for one) and no block stances. The reason to run a R/D is how much self defense they have from Escape. This has none of that. —Tab  McPiplup  ツ  13:06, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * .....OMG look at all the rating with good reasoning that got removed my one admin...isnt that a little biased? [[Image:That Twin Tom sig.jpg|19px]] That  Twin   Tom  13:53, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I'm not an admin.
 * They were removed because they had bad reasoning.
 * Feel free to explain to me what makes this a good build. —Tab  McPiplup  ツ  13:56, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

You could bring Onslaught and some tiny form of e-mngmt and it would be betterComfortOsprey 14:15, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * i dunno y its a good build lol assk the 10ish people that thought so [[Image:That Twin Tom sig.jpg|19px]] That  Twin   Tom  14:49, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * ...Do you honestly expect me to take you seriously now? —Tab  McPiplup  ツ  14:55, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * .....what did i do lol? [[Image:That Twin Tom sig.jpg|19px]] That  Twin   Tom  14:55, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * ....Are you for real?<font color="#FDD017" face="blackadder itc">Pika <font color="#FDD017" face="blackadder itc">Fan [[image:lightningbolt_sig.jpg|19x19px]] 14:57, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * NO.....? [[Image:That Twin Tom sig.jpg|19px]] That  Twin   Tom  14:59, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * ^/facepalm. Since you aren't very...receptive to say the least, let me explain. Tab's point was, if you cannot explain why the build was even halfway decent, then the vote removals were justified and not biased. Get it?<font color="#FDD017" face="blackadder itc">Pika <font color="#FDD017" face="blackadder itc">Fan [[image:lightningbolt_sig.jpg|19x19px]] 15:01, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * i dont do melee but if 12 people thought it was good...[[Image:That Twin Tom sig.jpg|19px]] That  Twin   Tom  15:03, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * run in a snare heavy team for HA/GvG? Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 15:03, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Try looking at their reasonings for once, Tom. 12 people thinking a build is good for the wrong reasons do not make those reasons right.<font color="#FDD017" face="blackadder itc">Pika <font color="#FDD017" face="blackadder itc">Fan [[image:lightningbolt_sig.jpg|19x19px]] 15:05, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * so ur saying one buildmaster/admin w/e's opinion is mroe valid than 12 others? [[Image:That Twin Tom sig.jpg|19px]] That  Twin   Tom  15:07, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * So you are saying 12 people with the wrong reasons > a buildmaster? Then what is a build master for if they aren't the authority on builds?<font color="#FDD017" face="blackadder itc">Pika <font color="#FDD017" face="blackadder itc">Fan [[image:lightningbolt_sig.jpg|19x19px]] 15:09, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * No, but al the other votes were valid when everyone was like "OMG! It's a skill buff!" but the novelty's worn off. Dutchess of Rose  aka  lukejohnson  - talk 15:11, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * .....lol ok nicely put[[Image:That Twin Tom sig.jpg|19px]] That  Twin   Tom  15:12, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I note the word "novelty". Anyway, let us not digress. If you find the vote removals so very unfair, post it up at the admin noticeboard or explain why the removals were not warranted.<font color="#FDD017" face="blackadder itc">Pika <font color="#FDD017" face="blackadder itc">Fan [[image:lightningbolt_sig.jpg|19x19px]] 15:13, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * meh im not bothered just feel i mean 12 votes? that all seem pretty valid meh im not that bothered [[Image:That Twin Tom sig.jpg|19px]] That  Twin   Tom  15:14, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * plus the other votes kinda make sense lol [[Image:That Twin Tom sig.jpg|19px]] That  Twin   Tom  15:20, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

(reset indent) They don't. I kited against this build without guardian and the R/D /ragequitted. No IMS really allows healers like me have a wonderful time.<font color="#FDD017" face="blackadder itc">Pika <font color="#FDD017" face="blackadder itc">Fan 15:24, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

No longer viable.
changes to ED make this build useless.
 * Nope. --71.229 21:33, 2 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Err, wth...-- Shadow [[Image:Relyk Sig.gif]] 22:20, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
 * I've no idea what you're talking about.

[build prof=R/D exp=12+1+1 wil=3 scy=12][Expert's Dexterity][Wearying Strike][Mystic Sweep][Eremite's Attack][Lyssa's Assault][Apply Poison][Aura of Holy Might (Luxon)][Asuran Scan][/build] It runs just fine like this in PvE. PvP just needs an alternate enchantment and rez sig. Nevermind. It's not worth anything in PvP. -(Japanties 09:53, 11 July 2009 (UTC))

btw
This would work better than escape scythe in pve, especially with zealous snathe or zr. I think a PvE Expert Scythe is needed-- Shadow 22:22, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Owait, unarchive Archive:R/D Scythe Spammer maybe?-- Shadow [[Image:Relyk Sig.gif]] 22:28, 21 October 2008 (EDT)