Archive talk:Team - DTSC Kurzick FFF Germanway

this needs to be cleanedup so much -_- i've never even done a run using it  athrunfeya  speaks  10:54, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure this uses 3 600 SBs, 3 Smiters, and 1 Echo RoJ. ··· Danny   Does   Drugs  21:37, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 2 elite skills ftw--Relyk 22:22, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Echo RoJ is using 2 elites? Fcking amazing!--ValeV
 * I cant work this out, it either mimics RoJ, although i'm not sure this is right seeing as theres a 60sec recharge on mimicry. or maybe mimics sig of illu, but for only one ebon sin? I'll try and dig the german builds off oneof their websites. hmm  athrunfeya [[Image:User_Athrun_Feya_sig_image.jpg]] speaks  08:32, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Before it was directly taken from this thread  athrunfeya [[Image:User_Athrun_Feya_sig_image.jpg]] speaks  08:41, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * And here's the variant that other guy posted,some good ideas there too  athrunfeya [[Image:User_Athrun_Feya_sig_image.jpg]] speaks  08:46, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * That second link has some quality builds, particularly with the 600 RoJ and RoJ on the smiter. On the west run, you generally want at least two RoJs, which is why I know at least DoNC runs the Echo version. Running the 600 WS would only make sense on a D/Mo, since you're not using Divine Favor (and you can get more scythe damage/higher health). I'll put up the West Team variant 1 on here, since it seems to have the most damage and the best strategy - kill everything with RoJ. ··· Danny   Does   Drugs  15:03, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * There we go, that looks a lot better, no? ··· Danny   Does   Drugs  16:21, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * This might help: http://www.thpk.net/index.php?topic=767.0 Note that the RoJ in the east team is replaced as a RoJ in the middle team now.  ¡DeAl€Y! [[Image:Ray_of_Judgment_19.jpg]] 06:16, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * And I'm not sure I like the updated build, is there not a problem with energy? sure you can blessed -> gole then roj but is this actually viable with constant -10 energys. Also, if anything splits while the 600 is tanking, which isnt uncommon, then you have a poor dead smitey. There's not a single res?  athrunfeya [[Image:User_Athrun_Feya_sig_image.jpg]] speaks  08:14, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You hide your energy from blessed, then tap 1 continuously as you switch your weapon sets. You should be fine. I've yet to see anyone have a problem with it, besides being too slow. Also, nothing should split if you get just in spellcasting range. If you've ever spammed Vengeful Weapon on a CoF runner, you can find the exact spot. (The only case this falls through with is spellcasting melee attackers, who will cast at you, but not move to attack.) Rez Scrolls - everyone should have a couple, tbh. ··· Danny   Does   Drugs  02:05, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Of course I know about the difference between aggro/spell casting ranges, couldn't be an effective Deep Freeze in elites without it. But, large groups split from Holy Wrath, so i'm a bit skeptical about what's gonna happen in the event that smite runs in to cast and something splits near it. There's two problems with res scrolls too, firstly that they are 'earshot' range, so no ressing tanks that are slightly out the smiters range like with UA and second, once the 600 is ressed the group that killed it will always instantly "see" it again, regardless of if they were close or not and with 1/4 health and no energy thats not going to end well, other resses do not have this problem.  athrunfeya [[Image:User_Athrun_Feya_sig_image.jpg]] speaks  08:40, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, the German bars used Rebirth over GoLE, but GoLE gives you a lot more room to work with, imo. Couldn't hurt to bring Rebirth, though. I've never seen a group split from Holy Wrath myself, but that could be an issue then. ··· Danny   Does   Drugs  16:48, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

The Way it was before it was moved

 * 2 / 600 SB tanks
 * 1 / 600 RoJ
 * 3 / or / Smiters
 * 1 / Diplomat
 * 1 / SB bonder

The 600 RoJ, 1 smiter, and the SB bonder would go together. The others just regular 600/Smite, the diplo does its job. &mdash; Balistic PvX 15:36, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * This variant is faster, tbh. ··· Danny   Does   Drugs  02:05, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The variant used in PuGs is the one in the first posting of the thread and takes 11 minutes with a normal PuG, not 15. In good PuG-teams 10 minutes are no problem and with an essence 7 minutes on the age-counter are possible, maybe even better (in my guild we do not have enough monks there yet, so I can just speak about random groups). I never tried the variant used here, maybe it's better in good teams, maybe it's worse (with bad luck everybody can die and then UA can save the day/run and is much faster than any other rez).92.74.105.37 14:20, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * This weeked, we figured out that rez scrolls work just fine, especially if you have a quick perma. Also, all the RoJ in this build makes things go super fast when you don't die. The moral of this build, really, is make sure you don't fail at being a 600 and that you RoJ the right targets. ··· Danny   Does   Drugs  16:42, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

testing phase now?
^ &mdash; Balistic PvX 17:27, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * putting builds in testing is srsly difficult. :> ··· Danny   Does   Drugs  17:44, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

This still works right?
Just checking since that rewrite tag has been there forever. Toraen TheJanitor 21:42, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

What's up with the RoJ Smiter Template?
It does that template-code thing. <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate  <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">23:09, 16 November 2009
 * Fixed. It's because two headpieces were put into the template to account for headpiece swapping (shouldn't affect template code at all, but it does). I rewrote it so it works now. <font face="Courier New" color="Black">Toraen <font face="Courier New" color="DarkGoldenrod">TheJanitor [[image:ToraenSig2.png]] 23:12, 16 November 2009 (UTC)