Build talk:P/A Vaettir Farm

I Know, This is Slow
Okay. I know this is probably the slowest way to to farm the Vaettir's, but it still works. Also, I think its not toooo slow to be undo-able. MozoGW (talk) 01:45, 31 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Few things: First, you don't get any additional energy from having higher leadership, as you will only get 2 energy per shout no matter what. Additionally, you don't need 16 leadership for 7 seconds of Blazing Finale. The breakpoint is 14. Further on that point, you really don't need more than 9 (8+1) points in leadership. This will give you 5 seconds of burning, which is plenty. You really could get away with 7 Leadership (6+1) points for 4 seconds of burning, or maybe even 4 Leadership (3+1) points for 3 seconds of burning. Based on your video, you are reapplying the burning pretty much every second, if not quicker. 3 seconds is plenty long enough for the moments where you need to re-cast your enchantments as well. Obvious downside to lowering leadership is the lower duration and needing to be re-cast more often.


 * IMO the best of both worlds is to drop Leadership to 12 (10+1+1) and raise command to 9 (8+1). This way you can maintain a relatively high duration of Blazing Finale while also reaching the 9 command breakpoint to gain extra armor from a command shield. You really should only have to swap to a staff when casting your spells, while staying in your defensive spear/shield set during balling (+5e +5def spear and +16 AL command shield with the inscription "Like a Rolling Stone" +10 armor vs Earth Dmg). Net Armor from this set is 31, which is pretty hefty.


 * Additionally, I really don't see the need for having more than 1 shout. You spam them so often that you will never need more than 1 to maintain burning. If you're doing it for the energy, have you considered Glowing Signet? You would have to maintain Blazing Finale the whole run, but you should be doing that anyways for the Centurion's Insignia. On that note, if you're not going to maintain Blazing Finale the whole time, you should be running Blessed Insignias. Lastly, if you're running 2 shouts simply to maintain burning and not for the energy, I would replace one of the shouts with an IAS. Critical Agility would give you easily maintainable +33% IAS combined with "GftE!" spam, and the armor doesn't hurt. The other alternative is Drunken Master, which has the downsides of IMS potentially breaking agro as well as having to use alcohol every time if you want +33% IAS.


 * Alternatively, take something like Radiation Field in order to maximize the degen. Would speed up the run a little bit.


 * Besides all that, and albiet it is slow, looks pretty good! Willarddog (talk) 20:51, 1 April 2021 (UTC)


 * I agree, you could definitely get away with less leadership. But, I tested a spear shield set with at least 9 command like you mentioned before making the vid.  I never used it, because you need a scythe to maintain the energy.  The staff is just to aggro everything so you can get two cycles of SF off without having to stop to swing with a scythe to get energy in between.  You could also do with one less shout too because of the duration of Blazing finale.  Radiation field would be good, but you really need to be careful with energy and casting time.  MozoGW (talk) 00:33, 2 April 2021 (UTC)


 * I like the critical agility idea, but it might require a variant to account for the attribute changes that are needed for it to get 100% crit chance with GFTE. I added it, but I do not know if the format is acceptable.  MozoGW (talk) 17:20, 4 April 2021 (UTC)


 * I don't know if there is any viability to it, but working in the leadership daggers somehow would be fun too :D Willarddog (talk) 15:27, 7 April 2021 (UTC)


 * You could probably get away with zealous daggers, but scythe is much better because it hits three targets at a time. MozoGW (talk) 23:53, 7 April 2021 (UTC)