Archive talk:Me/E Illusion Raptor Farmer

You could have made better use of Mesmer
I had actually came up with a Raptor farm build that is just as fast, if not faster than the original E/ME sliver solo. Since the E/Me didn't use an Elite and was totally optional... I used 16 illusion and used Signet of Illusion's elite skill to use for all the skills and max them out at 16. I didn't have to put any attribute points in earth magic at all, and still get as much armor and damage as having 16 earth magic. This makes very good use of the mesmers elite skill "Signet of Illusions" and will actually be a bit safer and faster than E/Me since you can use Fast casting. Well you can check out the build by following link below. Mesmer HM Farming Raptors (Me/E) (ReZDoGG 19:48, 20 April 2008 (EDT))

Add as variant to E/Me?
Just a suggestion.
 * i originally did, however they were saying it was looking like a "guide" so i cut all but the original Joshthor 01:51, 11 April 2008 (EDT)

HM or Not

 * I had a small problem in HM, The Broodmother would always run so it wouldnt die and sliver wouldnt renew so ya. Did you have this problem. Or do i just suck... Squirrelgi 13:02, 12 April 2008 (EDT)
 * this problem is always possible with any enemy when using sliver armor, you just want to make sure enough people are hitting you when you are really close to him, then cast sliver. Joshthor 19:13, 13 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Attack with your wand/staff and she will come back to you and die.Bluerask 13:37, 14 April 2008 (EDT)

Changed to a better, more HM friendly build
Yeah, it's got SoI and stuff. It's more reliable, and does HM easily. Rusty 06:06, 19 April 2008 (EDT)
 * well with that you might wanna change the usage :D Squirrelgi 18:25, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
 * gah! cant get Rekoff in HM. is he/she/it ment to be killed in HM? cuz they always get me to like 100 hp in 2 seconds with enchants on, QQ time. am i doing something i shouldn't b or just a newb?-- The Noob Police [[image:Badge.jpg|50x19px]] (never|fails) 21:08, 23 April 2008 (EDT)
 * No she(...mother) will run away thats why i like to use air of supiority in place of the hex so that i have a chance to remove my conditions and for the chance for the recharge. Squirrelgi 18:27, 24 April 2008 (EDT)
 * a chance, how often are you succsessful?-- The Noob Police [[image:Badge.jpg|50x19px]] (never|fails) 06:41, 25 April 2008 (EDT)
 * With Air of supiority a bit more than with grasping earth because no matter how hard i try to kill her she still just manages to get away Squirrelgi 21:40, 28 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Its cool but u can easliy copy origianl E/Me Build on a mesmer just bring Glyph of Elemental Power, no elite,and u can run it exactly the same way no difference(just 15 on Earth) i have been farming for long time with it, mesmer FTW ;).Requiem 02:27, 9 May 2008 (EDT)
 * use a ranged weapon to attack her to keep her aggroed. Once she dies, quit attacking, otherwise the nestlings will interrupt and drain your energy quickly.  This is why you want to make sure to bring your block skill and activate it right before you attack her mob.  I use a spear, as I can mod it like a totem axe.
 * I replaced the snare with Wandering Eye as it seemed to make more sense. I, however, am having the problem of being interrupted too much at once, and it kills my energy and then me. The large damage spike, then the conditions also are killing me. I have a feeling that, Signet of Illusions, being a signet and not triggering Channeling to give energy, isn't helping. And I don't think that using Superior Inspiration for -1 energy loss per interrupt attempt will help much. --pyroxide  08:01, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The snare is there to keep the raptors from scattering due to SA. I don't think you would get interrupted that much as you say with MB and SA up. [[Image:Zyke-Sig.png]] 08:25, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Don't take it Personal...
Don't take it Personal, The Noob Police NEVER Rates a 5-5-5. Lord of Destruction 14:29, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

Typos
"Air of Superiority can be replaced by Intensity or Ebon Battle Standard of Honor." Is it just me, or is Air of Superiority not in this build? Is it referring to mental block? Other than that, great build :) Awpaperwings 06:59, 5 November 2008 (EST)

Broodie
She always kills me. I've tried replacing the snare for Ether feast, and that works.. but its rather annoying to use.--75.32.206.16 19:04, 29 December 2008 (EST)
 * You're either doing it wrong or having bad luck, considering A/E Sliver Form doesn't have problems killing either (taking the same amount of damage with SF ~ Tanking). Although, the A/E can aggro everything at once - making the kill on Broodmother go a bunch faster if you get Aliver to hit. -- Shazam The  Snake    [[Image:Shazam_The_Snake.png]]  hissssssssssss 19:24, 29 December 2008 (EST)

Easiest way I've found is to replace Grasping earth with the Sunspear Elementalist skill, Intensity. You wil have to aggro 2 groups of normal raptor nestlings plus the Broodmother group. Wait for Rekoff to come right beside you, then activate Intensity first then Sliver Armor. This is should kill her off. Also, she doesn't seem to run away using this method 122.57.100.211 03:31, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Also you can try using Finish Him in place of grasping earth, i only die once out of 5 how, the other suggestions arent bad either --Xarkle 13:35, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Working, not
Is it just me or am I doing something wrong? I cannot get this to work, I got everything what is needed. (Weapon, armor, runes) but still doesnt work!? I can survive for long time, but watching that video.. He kills them so fast, I have to cast 2-3 Sliver armors to kil them, and sometimes they dont even die to that, because Sliver armor doesnt seem to hit all attacking raptors.

Mental Block and Grasping Earth
I'd switch for Mindbender and Ebon Battle Standard of Honor and found it much more effective. Mental Block and Grasping Earth are quite useless in my experience. -- Karasu (talk) 12:00, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

I think this is the most efficient build in terms of speed. Here's a YouTube example of it, 30 dead including boss in 1:27. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YOgqqcTj9M This should be the default build in my opinion.

Nice
Just tried a variant of this build in NM (Me/E):

and it works great, first attempt I messed up a bit and the boss killed me but second time I got my own back, haven't tried it in HM yet though. Also I don't think I really need Crystal Wave but I'm gonna experiment a bit. 86.24.115.34 17:39, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Broken
After they nerfed Mantra of Resolve, this build is no longer working. Great.
 * how very fucking gay. + ℓγ ss άή [rage]  13:28, September 19, 2009 (UTC)


 * Fucking Anet nerfing resolve

I've changed the build from "great" to "trial," since the MoR resolve makes the build nonviable as currently listed. &mdash; Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 03:50, September 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay well that's the wrong thing to do. This isn't an untested build, it's a tested build that has been nerfed. Thus it eneds to be archived. I'll do it tomorrow if i remember--TahiriVeila 04:02, September 22, 2009 (UTC)


 * Not the right thing to do? The instructions on the Template:Build update say, If the change has a major effect on the the build ...leave a note on ...talk ...and change the template of the build to . Which is what I did.


 * Plus it makes sense to me: if a single skill is nerfed, it's possible to fix the build and there should be some discussion before archiving. (In this case, maybe not; there aren't really viable MoR substitutes for casters to raptor farm.)  &mdash; Tennessee Ernie Ford ( TEF ) 05:08, September 22, 2009 (UTC)


 * Persistance of Memory maybe? Bit clumsy as it needs to be recast before the core spells and does not really deny interrupts... --Pixy1 11:06, September 22, 2009 (UTC)


 * Re-edit: yay it's back for pve :-) --Pixy1 06:37, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

confused.
how is this supposed to work? every time (10+ attempts) mantra of resolve take all my energy away while im recasting stoneflesh for the first time. i know to many interupts is listed in the counters section but jeez :\ i am i just reeealy unlucky or somthing?
 * According to the usage, you should start maintaining everything BEFORE aggroing the raptors at all, and stop every now and then while aggroing to recast if necessary. Toraen TheJanitor [[image:ToraenSig2.png]] 17:33, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Needs to be archived.
Sliver armor is nerfed, randomly chooses targets each hit now. The only thing this build can do now is kill all the raptors in normal mode, can't even kill boss in NM. Many builds will get archived due to this I imagine.... 114.77.108.48
 * You can change Sliver and grasping earth to rad field and ether nightmare and still farm raptors (excluding boss) --Chin pon 07:41, July 2, 2010 (UTC)