Archive talk:Mo/N HB Corrupt Smiter

Discuss. Tycn 15:50, 27 September 2007 (CEST)

Tries to do too much in my op. This just feels all over the place and looks like it would be crushed if ever by itself. Id rather bring a true necro, exra warrior, or another true monk than try to mech all three together. e-management isssues the minute you start trying to maintain strength an honnor on more than one person. Shireen sysop  16:52, 27 September 2007 (CEST)

It actually works quite smoothly. Strength of Honour does mess with energy if maintained on more than one ally, but usually I just maintain it on the sin for a nice damage boost. As for the smiting skills, it works well with the heavy hex/condition metagame, and the damage is a bonus. It doesn't pressure as much as a primary Necro or heal as well as a normal monk, but it works well for support. Tycn 16:59, 27 September 2007 (CEST)

How can you control who you want your hero to put Strenght and Honor on ? -- Kyrax 16:10, 4 October 2007 (CEST)

I just disable it so the hero doesn't go crazy or stop maintaining it, then force the hero to use it on you, the sin. Tycn 16:13, 4 October 2007 (CEST)

By the way, credit goes to some guy from obs that I can't remember. Tycn 16:14, 4 October 2007 (CEST)

and.. well that might sound extremely noobish but.. how can you force an ALLIED target to your hero ? -- Kyrax 00:16, 5 October 2007 (CEST)

Target yourself then click on Strength of Honor. Tycn 02:00, 5 October 2007 (CEST)

Bleh.. i managed to get into top 800 without ever knowing this :/ ... -- Kyrax 13:56, 5 October 2007 (CEST)

And with this sacred knowledge, I've gotten down to N/A >.< Tycn 13:57, 5 October 2007 (CEST)

lol, this build is good, it works v. well especially if paired with a SoR. Obv by bringing along 2 monks you will get alot of rage hate. --Drowning Pigeon 20:08, 7 October 2007 (CEST)

this build is pretty gud imo, best hero smiter you can get its helpful on my sin so i can use stuff like GPS easier.-- HAMSTORM

Is it me, or are you trying to do WAY too much with one build?--Victoryisyours (talk /pvxcontribs ) 21:50, 7 October 2007 (CEST)
 * Just you. — Skakid9090 21:51, 7 October 2007 (CEST)


 * Lol, ok. =P--[[image:Victory_is_Mine!_.jpg‎|19px]]Victoryisyours (talk /pvxcontribs ) 23:29, 7 October 2007 (CEST)


 * To explain a bit mroe, it does a few important things in hero battles so it's good. — Skakid9090 23:30, 7 October 2007 (CEST)

Good build. Kind of the same as the support ritualist except its monk spells to support. One thing i don't get is that the rating is 4.45 and its vetted "Great" and the Master of Magic Daggers build I wrote has a rating of 4.49 and thats "Good". - Jak123X 04:33, 8 October 2007 (CEST)
 * I'm guessing when it was given the tag it had a rank high enough to be "great", but since then a vote has brought it down. Good catch, changing now. If I'm wrong it can be reverted right? --Powersurge 04:39, 8 October 2007 (CEST)
 * Of course it can be reverted, and you're right btw ;) [[Image:Hammer And Sickle.png|User:Viet|19px]]Viet talk  . 05:21, 8 October 2007 (CEST)

So this hero is set on defense or attack?Kiteeye 05:40, 8 October 2007 (CEST)
 * Usually Guard. Avoid Combat also works too, if you're willing to force the enchantment removal skills. Tycn 05:48, 8 October 2007 (CEST)

Forcing enchant removal skills works the best. This way you can pull your shadow prison chain as soon as enchants are removed for the spike. - Jak123X 14:28, 8 October 2007 (CEST)

Its a great build if you know how to use it...and by the way its wrong :D gl using it -canadian-

lulz, canadian is so biased ;p. Readem (talk *pvxcontribs ) 02:27, 9 October 2007 (CEST)

Blah
Judge's why? Don't get the point of it. — Skakid9090 22:48, 11 October 2007 (CEST)

Spam; heroes use it better then humans; micro it before a sin spike and you can auto-kill the other sin. Readem (talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 22:49, 11 October 2007 (CEST)

Strength of Honor sucks
Why not Judge's Insight? It's much better. <font color=#ff0000>Napalm Flame  >=] <font color=#0000ff>(talk)·(contributions) 01:29, 18 October 2007 (CEST)


 * This build will usually be buffing a sin, hence SoH. Tycn 09:11, 18 October 2007 (CEST)


 * And buffing a sin with judge's is like... 5 dps extra? >.< Cuz sins have low attack/hit, judge's is baed at them. Judge's is only leet for hammers / big trees with scythes. - [[Image:Unexist sig.jpg|20px]]<font color="Black">Unexist  02:25, 16 January 2008 (EST)

Edit
In the variants section it says "Gaze of Contempt instead of Rend Enchantments." Rend isnt on the bar.... Himynameisbobbyjoe 01:01, 4 November 2007 (CET)

Fixed. Feel free to edit things like that yourself, as long as you're right. Smooths 14:29, 27 December 2007 (EST)

Not using judge's intervention/rod
I seriously think ogden doesnt use either at all. anyone else have this problem? --Dark0805 ( Rant / Contributions ) 17:02, 9 February 2008 (EST)
 * That's never happened to me. Something to do with his combat mode maybe? --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]<font color="Black">Tab  <font color="Black">Moo  17:14, 9 February 2008 (EST)
 * I had him on guard, switched to avoid, no real difference. do heros use those skills smartly or just randomly? because he may be using it... just not when i'm staring drop jawed at him letting himself get spiked because he decided sod is a great antispike. --Dark0805 ( Rant / Contributions ) 17:43, 9 February 2008 (EST)
 * I was thinking maybe drop judges due to the buff of RoD to 3r. Never really run this myself, but trying it now. I think rip enchantment in it's place...  18:29, 18 March 2008 (EDT)

The Real build
Well, the one posted atm is soo outdated it's beyond a joke, here's the real build: The attribs are- Curses: 7, Healing Prayers: 11+1+1, Smiting Prayers: 11+1, Divine Favour: 5+1

Ofcourse there are variants to this, but healing prayers are the definite meta for the Mo/N build, it's add alot more support to both damage and healing, barbs and rend should both be disabled (as should rigor) don't play the build like a noob and it owns. Rainbow Ftw

Archive
This need to be archived, nerf of Smiter's Boon makes this usless now. Zuko 11:08, 24 September 2008 (EDT)