Archive talk:Team - TA Critical Pressure

I'd Rather have magebane or EDA than smites, but w/e--Goldenstar 21:51, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Also, I think a primary Monk would be more effective because you could use Smiter's Boon along with Reversal of Damage, Smite Hex, Smite Condition and Boon Signet/Defender's Zeal (maybe even Divine Boon, but that could be hard on the energy). -Mike 22:07, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Energy problems though. [[Image:Backbreaker.jpg|20px|User:Deathtron1]] Deathtron1 (talk *pvxcontribs ) 22:09, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * With Boon Signet, you gain 1 energy per second (assuming your target has 3 enchantments, and with high enough DF) while Offering of Spirit only nets you about 0,7 energy per second. -Mike
 * OoS is more reliable, as you gain the energy no matter what, with the health loss being conditional. It's also harder to interrupt, and spamming boon signet every 5 seconds will take up alot of your time kiting or supporting your team. Anyways, monks don't have warmongers, which is still good after the nerf, just not as OP. [[Image:Backbreaker.jpg|20px|User:Deathtron1]] Deathtron1 (talk *pvxcontribs ) 22:46, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Boon Sig sucks.  22:48, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
 * I'd just rather see a Smiter with a more supportive role. Instead of using MBaS to heal for 90 on recharge, you could use Smiter's Boon with high enough DF to heal for just as much with every Smiting Prayers Spell cast. Personal preference, I guess. -Mike 22:59, 4 April 2008 (EDT)\

Get rid of Warmonger's Weapon. After the nerf it's pretty terrible and even if wasn't, you could not have put together a worse team to use it. You have one sin running a scythe and no ias (very slow attack speed) and a Shattering Assault sin that people have learned to kite anyway - without any consistent increased movement speed or snares. Exchange Warmonger's for Judge's Insight for the A/D. Derek The Lash 10:31, 7 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Interrupting half the time is good. The scythe sin has two 3/4 attacks with 4 seconds recharges which creates an artificial IAS.  Shattering Assault Assassin now has rush (Don't know why I never put that in before).  Judge's Insight is not needed on the A/D, but could be effective on the A/W.  Anyways, I still like Warmonger's Weapon as it allows for your Shattering Assaualt Assassin to almost completely disable the monk by stripping prots, stances, and interrupting heals for 14 seconds which is more than enough time for your Scythe sin to tear the midline apart or spike the monk.  If you think it needs to be changed, though, go ahead and do it. [[Image:Backbreaker.jpg|20px|User:Deathtron1]] Deathtron1  (talk *pvxcontribs ) 23:18, 7 April 2008 (EDT)
 * The point is Warmonger's will not interrupt anywhere near as many things as you think it will. No standard attack speed scythe sin is gonna catch the quarter second prots, and more than likely, not even the 3/4 second and second long stuff if the monk is watching.  If it were a frenzying axe warrior that would wear the Warmonger's, I would say yes.  But under this condition I think it is harsh on energy for what little you would reap in benefits.  This is your build, though, I'm only offering this for consideration. Derek The Lash 01:41, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

10 minutes ago i met this build in TA, and it raped us.--Breitschleif 10:37, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

WTB Snare. Roxas XIII 01:19, 10 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Perma-rush on Shattering and Shadow Walk/Dash on Scythe. No need for snare. [[Image:Backbreaker.jpg|20px|User:Deathtron1]] Deathtron1 (talk *pvxcontribs ) 01:27, 10 April 2008 (EDT)

If Bloodsong gets killed the Rit's gonna have a hard time.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ  01:32, 10 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Lol, you can always make another one.

Why are you using Wounding Strike when there's Wearying Attack? Build's already been unfavored. Unless you saving room... but using Archive:A/D Beguiling Scythe or Archive:A/D Grenth's Grasp Assassin would be way better.--Relyk 11:13, 10 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Spam every 3 secs > spam every 6 seconds. 3 seconds is impossible for monk's to keep down, 6 is(/look at m-touch's recharge). Also; bleeding owns. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  16:27, 10 April 2008 (EDT)

I heard Dshot and shield bash are good ... Mr BArtel 18:02, 10 April 2008 (EDT)

This build
Should have smiter + covnant monk. Rit iz baed. —ǘŋ Ɛxɩsƫ  16:28, 10 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Smiter I can understand that but why an HC monk? It's really not that good of a build and the enchants will get ripped by other Shattering Assault Assassins. I guess two energy vigorous spirit would be good, but still I don't think it's worth the slot. [[Image:Backbreaker.jpg|20px|User:Deathtron1]] Deathtron1 (talk *pvxcontribs ) 20:51, 10 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Yeah, too bad you can shatter the shattering asault, no? And HC + Smiter = enough cover enchantments before the real enchantments are stripped. Hc is all about the extra enchantments, which you need for this build.  —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  10:58, 11 April 2008 (EDT)

this build is fucking gay. in a gud kind of way

the team needs convenant, but then it looks too much like convenantway, cuz everyone uses convenantway with 1 SA sin and 1 scythe sin82.72.233.33 02:49, 11 April 2008 (EDT)
 * True, but the HC monk got nerfed with the "bug fixes" to Patient Spirit and the Spotless skills. Gaze Of Balthazar 16:11, 16 April 2008 (EDT)

Skill Choice Regarding Impale
We have the Smiter keeping SoO on both of the Assassins, or so I presume. Is Impale really necessary? Can we drop it for something more useful?
 * Errm, what?  21:21, 30 May 2008 (EDT)
 * The implication of what I'm saying is that both Sins are enchanted at all times. Please draw conclusions.ArisB 21:31, 30 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Errm, What? -WaffleZ LOL- . 19:28, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

unarchive plz
just need to change the lolsmiter to meta smiter.--<font color="Blue">IM<font color="Blue">BLUE <font color="Blue">Da Ba Dee Da Ba Die 19:38, 12 November 2008 (EST)
 * It's really outdated, coventway isn't used much more. -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 05:34, 13 November 2008 (EST)
 * cud still be used......ran with sum friends and rolled hexway in a minute after losing to them 3 times with rampageway.--<font color="Blue">Da Blue User <font color="Blue">Is  <font color="Blue">Blue  21:31, 20 November 2008 (EST)
 * used newer smiter tbh.--<font color="Blue">Da Blue User <font color="Blue">Is  <font color="Blue">Blue  21:32, 20 November 2008 (EST)

changed smiter
for metaness cuz this build still ownz........--<font color="Blue">Da Blue User <font color="Blue">Is  <font color="Blue">Blue  21:43, 20 November 2008 (EST)