Archive talk:W/any Charge Axe

Use Evis, it iz gud. Readem (talk *pvxcontribs ) 18:51, 19 July 2007 (CEST)

multiple warriors frenzying you with a speed boost iz gud too - Skakid9090 18:57, 19 July 2007 (CEST)

I know the sword variant of this was very popular in gvg during the proph-only era, but I thought it's fallen out of use. Perhaps remove "Charge!" and give this as the generic cookie-cutter build for the utility axe warrior instead? Imho that would be better, since another possible choice for the elite slot is Empathic Removal or some other such utility spell. - Kaelor 15:02, 19 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Over-simplification I think. You'd play a "Charge!" warrior different from an Empathic Removal warrior. - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] Krowman   22:09, 19 July 2007 (CEST)
 * The main reason "Charge!" fell out of use is that triple melee builds are less popular(and those that are run are usually a dedicated split), and it becomes more and more effective the more warriors it affects(three warriors frenzying at least half the time while still being able to easily catch kiters is more scary than two, and even two's pretty scary). --Edru viransu //QQ about me 22:18, 19 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Well, if the idea is merely for a viable build, not necessarily one that's popular, then this definitely qualifies. I'm not sure of the current policy on PvXwiki as opposed to the old guildwiki section, but if that's the case, then we might consider bringing the old Archive:W/Mo Empathic Paladin into the testing section. --Kaelor 14:47 20 July 2007 (CEST)
 * I still ran that until I redid my War, and I will likely run it again. 2 Hex and 2 Condition removals for 5e is win if you use it right. - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] Krowman   07:30, 21 July 2007 (CEST)

I think Charge is waste of elite slot. IMO is better take paragon with fall back. Which ends when you hit with an attack. Not very useful for a warrior train. Tycn 15:02, 20 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Hasty refrain with fear me warriors > all imo. - [[Image:Weapon_of_Fury.jpg|20px]]Unexist  16:45, 21 November 2007 (CET)
 * "Charge!" blows when you've got "Fall Back!", but at least switch out the RA tag for an AB tag. -Mike 09:58, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Anything with a decent attack chain, utility and self-heal works in RA.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 09:59, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Anything works in RA, but that doesn't mean you should run it. "Charge!" is nearly useless in RA because party-wide speed boosts aren't important, and it would be better to save your Elite for something else. -Mike 10:03, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
 * The whole party being able to kite just about anything sure is useless... :/  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 10:26, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
 * It's RA; if your party members are decent, they would have their own kiting skill or some sort of defense. If not, don't expect them to be smart enough to kite. -Mike 10:31, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
 * A monk with something like Shield Bash AND a 33% IMS is pretty much invulnerable.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 10:44, 21 June 2008 (EDT)

I updated main page to a better version. Also, the code doesn't show it yet, but "Charge!" lasts for 11 seconds at 11 tactics. Zuranthium 13:45, 23 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Disciplined Stance? / Fros  T  alk  \ 13:52, 23 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Thats called a proper frenzy cancel. (Eventhough you'd still be better off with rush imo.) Brandnew.  13:57, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

archive?
 -- Gringo TALK 03:20, 4 January 2009 (EST) 
 * Resolved. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 22:25, 4 January 2009 (EST)

this build isn't meta, but viable with the nerf to p-rage and popular warrior heavy builds.. also, now removes cripple, which isn't a selling point, but a definite bonus.74.61.39.33 02:00, July 19, 2010 (UTC)