Archive talk:N/any GvG Blood Necro

I had the same idea a little while ago... it's creative, but not very realistic. 74.96.99.140 12:53, August 22, 20

it was used in many top gvg matches running trip warrior, it can split offensively and defensively
 * Is the Undertaker's Insignia really worth it in this build? Angueo 01:08, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Not much else you can take, any + al is better than no + al. Frostels 12:33, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

first optional for elite:
 * YAA
 * Empathic
 * Just a flesh wound
 * IV
 * Plague Signet (+ Foul Feast)
 * WoD
 * Balthazar's Pendulum
 * Expel

second for emanage
 * Angorodons or Masochism

last optional for either a res ie flesh, pact or sig. or for Blood Renewal for splitting.

cba write up I am off o/ Frostels 12:33, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
 * First three are really the only ones run (as far as the meta is concerned. List the others (+life transfer) as variants imho--TahiriVeila 21:07, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * This is pretty good in other formats, maybe add some tags? CM especially, it's very good luxon side in FA with soul bind for elite. 124.148.150.253 07:54, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * This page is specifically for the GvG blood necro builds (see title). Anything relating to lower arenas should go on a different page (you would not run a Curses elite Soul Bind on this bar in GvG). Toraen -Gifts Plz [[image:ToraenSig3.png|19px]] 16:50, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Angorodon's Nerf
Now you have to spec into soul reaping to get the emanage, however you only need to spec 9+1 to get the same amount of energy back, so you can still spec 9 tactics, and you can still spec 9 curses etc for the respected elites so it's not that bad. Frostels 10:48, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep the buff to the energy basically wasn't a nerf b/c you can spec 9 SR and still get the same emanagement. All this change does is reward builds which already max out soul reaping.--TahiriVeila 16:08, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

atts
I haven't played in 2 weeks, but it still seems like it makes more sense to spec 9 into SR and use the rest of your atts for a shield. Gonna change the mainbar unless someone thinks i'm wrong--TahiriVeila 21:05, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * This may sound daft but do you think for illusion that 11 blood, 10 sr 10 illu is a good att spread? 14 blood doesn't really hit any breaks points and its just a bit of damage off of dp and strip. Frostels 22:32, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Should be okay i suppose. Does the extra point in illu really get you much?--TahiriVeila 22:37, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Extra point of degen (and a second) on anguish, and obv more damage on sig of clumsiness. I said it because most of the pressure from the build comes from degen. Frostels 00:20, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Bleeding duration? That's the most important part of the bar. --Lemming 09:15, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

SoMS + OotV
Just seen some guild run the new Signet of Mystic Speed which makes self targeting enchants cast instantly, used with Order of the Vampire. Combined with 3 spam sins naturally, looks pretty good. Possible variant? It gives you orders without having to drop back to cast them. Frostels 01:20, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Only good inside of the aforementioned team build. In trip melee everyone runs 2 hammers, which would be a waste. If we post it we should post the team as a whole with 3 A/D. Idiot 05:07, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * mAT is in a week. I'd say wait and see what builds are popular next weekend then start adding variants. We're not going to be getting another skill update for ages so it's not like we'll be missing anything by rushing to put new bars out.--TahiriVeila 05:12, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

After the update
Signet of Suffering or adding FF? Karate  Jesus  02:40, 18 March 2011  (UTC)
 * What update, the dervish update?-- GWPirate 关 16:28, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
 * gww:Feedback:Skill_update_previews/20110317. -- Toraen TheJanitor [[image:ToraenSig2.png|link=User:Toraen]] 16:37, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Disregard that, it wasnt on guildwars.com so i didnt spot it.-- GWPirate 关 16:57, 18 March 2011 (UTC)


 * After the update, archive this and make a new one. If it sees play, cool. If not, goodbye blood necros.  —ǥrɩɳsɧƴ ɖɩđđɭɘş  [[Image:Grinshpon blinky cake.gif|19px]] 12:54, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Looking at the update preview, possibly replace angorodons with masochism and spam dark pact/barbed signet for emanage. Problem is some elites won't be viable like Crip Anguish, Corrupt, AoD etc. Frostels 10:50, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
 * if barbed signet only puts bleeding on people around you then it will never be used, and bleeding spam is soooo good. with signet of suffering you cant even put any utility on the bar like snares or fragility or foul feast, so i'll bet only a very few rare teams will ever play blood again. Idiot 22:40, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Preview says target and adjacent foes, so it could still be used to spread bleeding. -- Toraen TheJanitor [[image:ToraenSig2.png|link=User:Toraen]] 04:03, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

So much for pressure metas lol, a lot of what makes the dervishes mad strong is getting toned down, blood necros are going out the window, and they're pushing eles (read midline damage), and dom mesmers (read balanced). Cool shit.--TahiriVeila 04:24, 22 March 2011 (UTC)