User talk:Sunny Storms

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FoW Manly page
K,so a headsup. I'm redoing the FoWManly page. I'll keep you guys updated and give votes or ideas when done. Su nn y St or ms  19:07, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * A) your archive is broken
 * B) Only thing that should be touched on that page is the excessive amount of bad video guides.
 * C) How much do you even know about FoW compared to Paranon, Life or me
 * Please answer in order
 * Thanks 82.95.65.117 21:00, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * whoru?-- Relyk 22:25, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Said the master of PvE. Let the adults talk Relyk.  Raskhax ↓  →  ↑  B 
 * You need to stop using that phrase-- Relyk 23:27, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Falrach isn't some whoru. Chieftain Alex  00:09, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Too lazy to check, continue as you were.-- Relyk 01:16, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * r0? &mdash;  ska  01:13, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * A = oh crap... but couldn't care less.
 * B = Not only the videos, the whole page is riddled with excessive info.
 * C = Done too many runs in FoW to even count... Still doing it, but only to get that elusive obby edge. and i can do 8/8 with all variants.
 * D = Are you in doubt of what i can or cannot do or run?
 * E = You like pressing kitties to sign off on your comments? [[image:Blackout.jpg|20px]] Su nn y St or ms  07:18, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I like kitties.
 * But more to the point, the page is meant for new people, so everything should be spelled for them. For my own credibility, I've ran everything from random pugs to zraw record runs and duo/solo FoW. People that know about FoW, are good and want to be fast can MAKE their own tactics. PvX exists to document the metagame, not to make it. We are not going to add every single crappy guildvariant, nor are we going to post risky tactics for pugs who don't understand them. For FoW, most of all, the entry area for many people to SCs, we should be clear and helpful, with simple builds and thorough explanation. If you want you can try to post an "advanced" FoWSC but I'll be the first in line to thrash it. Have a nice day sir. 212.78.192.22 09:55, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah sunny! Stop ruining our fowsc! Raskhax ↓  →  ↑  B  10:01, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * LOL, thnx for a quick reply... BUT. As you said PUGS/New ppl need everything spelled out for them. So on that note, stop leaving empty slots in a build and give them a simple build with 8 of 8 slots used. If you look at my main page you'll see i'm not changing anything drastic. I'm not trying to make an advanced manlyway page at all... nor would i ever try to. We have mesway for that purpose. or t4 t5 whatever suits ppl. All i'm trying to do on this manlyway page, and you'll seee the difference if you actually spend time and look at my page, is make it easier and more understandable for new ppl to read and use. UW Tway page had empty slots and too much text on the page. You have to agree it looks a LOT cleaner and easier to read now. Now stop harassing me ^_^  [[image:Blackout.jpg|20px]] Su nn y St or ms  10:20, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You're confusing optional slots with variants. An optional slot doesn't imply an empty slot, it represents a choice of skills depending on the circumstances and preference. We assume visitors have reading comprehension beyond kindergarten.-- Relyk 11:21, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Sunny stop your hullabaloo at once! I will not allow you to continue this speed clear tyranny any longer. If you refuse then I'll be forced to assault you.  Raskhax ↓  →  ↑  B  11:24, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Afaik I had to wait half a day for the first reaction, but whatever. o.O
 * Because you dont really seem to listen and I really dislike your rewrite I've fix'd the current writeup of the FoWSC page over here:[]. I was on about advanced, because you were talking about solo toc earlier, but I guess you listened there. I'd suggest asking an admin to call us both bad and butthurt, then choose whichever rewrite is best or keep the old.
 * Thanks. Falrach 16:48, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * PEACE!  [[image:Blackout.jpg|20px]] <font color="#ffd700">Su <font color="#9a8238">nn <font color="#332b70">y St <font color="#000046">or <font color="#000017">ms  11:31, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Falrach, honestly i just couldn't care less about pvx anymore. Or the comments i get on here. All i try to do is clean up or make something easier to read for new ppl. I know the solo toc was a bad thing to suggest putting up as a standard build. That's why i haven't even put it up in the rewrite on my main page. BUT!!!! I wish ppl would stop commenting on what i'm gonna do wth a page if i'm not even finished yet. Saying that, i wasn't gonna finish the rewrite anymore with all the hassle i'm getting but, seeing as you did a rewrite aswell i'll finish mine and then let's put them up for decisions. [[image:Blackout.jpg|20px]] <font color="#ffd700">Su <font color="#9a8238">nn <font color="#332b70">y St <font color="#000046">or <font color="#000017">ms  07:41, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Last thing i'm going to say is this. All i'm trying to do right now is create/put down a standard build without choices to put in skills. So new ppl have a foolproof build basicly in which it would be very hard to fail aslong as you maintain your skills. (Pugs/new people) Tend to get nervous with empty slots and too much thinking into the build. That's my reason for putting up a fully loaded main build and then having (swappables) underneath it. [[image:Blackout.jpg|20px]] <font color="#ffd700">Su <font color="#9a8238">nn <font color="#332b70">y St <font color="#000046">or <font color="#000017">ms  07:46, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Last thing i'm going to say is this. All i'm trying to do right now is create/put down a standard build without choices to put in skills. So new ppl have a foolproof build basicly in which it would be very hard to fail aslong as you maintain your skills. (Pugs/new people) Tend to get nervous with empty slots and too much thinking into the build. That's my reason for putting up a fully loaded main build and then having (swappables) underneath it. [[image:Blackout.jpg|20px]] <font color="#ffd700">Su <font color="#9a8238">nn <font color="#332b70">y St <font color="#000046">or <font color="#000017">ms  07:46, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Rewrite done
Tell me what you think. <font color="#ffd700">Su <font color="#9a8238">nn <font color="#332b70">y St <font color="#000046">or <font color="#000017">ms  08:08, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * "Swappables!


 * "I Am Unstoppable!" for Mental Block  if new."
 * wut? T1. I stopped looking after that. 82.95.65.117 08:26, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * lol ... did i really leave that in there.... hahaha edited out now... [[image:Blackout.jpg|20px]] <font color="#ffd700">Su <font color="#9a8238">nn <font color="#332b70">y St <font color="#000046">or <font color="#000017">ms  09:04, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * This is still no cleaner than Falrach's version (or the existing manly spike page tbh), all you have done is fill in the blanks with optionals. people arent "confused" by optionals, people run the standard bars and have for years. Optional skills arent a bad thing, filling them doesnt make them "foolproof". This is no easier to follow than the clusterfuck old page - maybe cleanup the actual notes/tips and old videos. If it helps after my assignments are due in i am going to record some new current videos of basic + advanced pulls/tactics for all roles, probably with the different bars as well. and as Relyk said, we assume people can actually read here, an optional slot with "if new" does not render people in a state of shock, crying in the fetal position asking for the sweet release that is death caused by such utter confusion because they have had to decide on an optional slot.--Dont Tell Dave 13:32, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You're talking to a wall of pure muscle broham, best step down before sunny wrecks your shit.  Rask ✂  ✂  ✂  ✂  17:00, 13 March 2012 (UTC)