Archive talk:N/Me Suffering Spiker

quick question.... why suffering in the main build? it doesn't do much degen and it's a little energy intensive imo. i personally bring defile flesh in that spot, but i think suffering should definitely be replaced by a relatively spammable, cheap hex. 76.19.223.231 16:14, 19 May 2007 (CEST)

This is just what works well for me and many others: that's why it is favored. If you prefer, you can feel free to bring Defile Flesh, and I admit, I do sometimes as well. It's already in the varients, so go ahead and use it. I don't really think anyone is going to stop you.  Marin Bloodbane  ( Talk ) 23:02, 19 May 2007 (CEST)

Unfortunately, this build is about as unwieldy as the Virluence Spiker, and just about as fast. Quickly stopped when a monk sees ya comming. Shireen 10:37, 23 May 2007 (CEST)

And suffering and phantasm are... meh at best. Tycn 11:08, 23 May 2007 (CEST)

This is recommended for RA. So, where's the res go? I'm guessing taking it rather than Suffering, but really there should be a variant. Egon 17:52, 28 May 2007 (CEST)

Checked and Reviewed
For Viability. Readem (talk *pvxcontribs ) 16:28, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

I think I'd prefer conjure nightmare instead of conjure phantasm. Just has that litle extra punch. Plus if you have backfire equipped could pressure healers to cast a healing spell.