Build talk:Team - The Deep 5 Man Manly Spike

You can't have both headpieces displayed at once in the build, it causes the template code to not appear. Choose one headpiece to display, and make note that you need a second headpiece to swap to for certain skills. If you want to force a given skill to display at a different attribute level, format it as [Skill Name@X] where X is the level you are forcing it to. -Toraen (talk) 14:42, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Emilesin's re-add of incorrect content
En Nederlands: Stop met dingen te veranderen die ik en anderen hebben veranderd. Ik (en anderen) hebben het aangepast voor een reden. Ok? Als je vragen over waarom wij het hebben veranderd hebben, vraag het ons dan aub. Ik kan het zelfs proberen uit te leggen in het Nederlands als dat helpt (maar het is niet mijn moedertaal). Als je weet dat Engels niet het beste is, verander de tekst dan niet terug naar je eigen versie als iemand anders het veranderd.

In English: Stop with changing things that I and others have changed. I (and others) have changed it for a reason. Ok? If you have questions about why we changed it, ASK us, please. I can even try to explain to you in Dutch (but it's not my native language). If you know that your English is not the best, don't change the text back to your version if someone else corrects it for you. Sacropedia (talk) 16:22, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I reckon user Emilesin didn't do this out of bad intent (let's remember to always PvX:AGF). It probably happened due to an edit conflict and not paying attention to the edit conflict warning. --Krschkr (talk) 19:28, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I absolutely agree it wasn't out of bad intent. This was just my attempt to notify them to pay attention to edit conflicts and PvX:1RV in as simple a way to understand as possible. I apologize to Emilesin if it came across as harsh in any way. It was only my intention to be helpful. Sacropedia (talk) 20:40, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * This is the second time Emilesin has gone back in separate edits and undone all the spelling corrections I've made in the article, including correcting links. That's why I told them to leave the English spelling to someone who knows better, especially since they themselves admitted that their English was not the best. I'm reverting these kinds of edits from now on because the build will never be finished if this keeps happening. Sacropedia (talk) 20:46, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * In fact, it was you who broke 1RV first when you reverted Emilesin's revert of your change and Emilesin then broke the rule aswell by reverting your changes once again. However, as the first revert probably was an accident and I don't expect the two of you to start a revert war over this, we don't have to over-dramatize this. In order to avoid edit conflicts I recommend to use the edit button next to a section instead of on top of the page. That way you only edit a small part of the page and multiple people can edit different sections at the same time without conflicting. --Krschkr (talk) 23:37, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Possible name change
Thinking about it, it might make more sense and follow convention better if this build is named "5 Man Deep Manly Spike". Just going to park that suggestion here but it's something that can wait until it's ready to go to testing. Sacropedia (talk) 16:28, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I am OK with that name, Looks good to me. And sorry for my interrupting. Noticed some attribute points where indeed incorrect, wanted to change that. Was also thinking on making the variant builds smaller than the main team builds, tough than you don't see the attribute points and build code.--Emilesin (talk) 18:26, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I actually prefer the current name. This build is specialized for one area, so it won't hurt if that area's the first bit of the name. --Krschkr (talk) 20:17, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * If you look at Category:All_working_PvE_team_builds you'll quickly see that every single team build in the build space that specifies a certain number of characters (players or heroes) has that first in their name. This page would be the only team build that breaks this naming convention. That's why I thought it might be pertinent to change it. Thoughts? Sacropedia (talk) 20:42, 29 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Yeah i am oke with the name change.

Something else. I noticed a changed heading text. Which is incorrect. "This maximizes the chances of rare drops for each player, such as rare and unique weapons from Kanaxai's Chest".. Nothing really maximize a chance on a rare drop. And what you get from the chest is all shitty and worthless. Except the demonic stone and jadeite stone, that are usefull. That text I wrote is about getting faction points, and an extreme rare drop from killing a foe or open a chest with a lock pick. Only than you have the chance on get a zodiac shield with 10ar VS demons or VS plants...or even dual mod shield with -2 wile enchanted also on it. Those are extreme expensive, and not drop from the end chest. Oldschool weapons never drop from an End chest. --Emilesin (talk) 21:55, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Working on text
I noticed a changed heading text. Which is incorrect. It is about this text. "This maximizes the chances of rare drops for each player, such as rare and unique weapons from Kanaxai's Chest".. Nothing really maximize a chance on a rare drop. And what you get from the chest is all shitty and worthless. Except the demonic stone and jadeite stone, that are useful. That text I wrote is about getting faction points, and an extreme rare drop from killing a foe or open a chest with a lock pick. Only than you have the chance on get a zodiac shield with 10ar VS demons or VS plants...or even dual mod shield with -2 wile enchanted also on it. Those are extreme expensive, and not drop from the end chest. Old school weapons never drop from an End chest. Also, with pull foes in 1 dot, it is about the red dot's you see on the compass. You see when foes are hostile, when they are marked as red dot's on your compass. The compass is like a second screen. The name of the build you gave it now, looks great to me. If you have another name that fits more, I guess I am fine with that as well. As long it's about a faster than regular runs, 5 man Deep team. But thanks a lot for the help so far, Really thanks.--Emilesin (talk) 07:53, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Hey, thanks for pointing that out. I took the liberty of copying your comment here so it's seen with the corresponding article. I also rewrote that sentence. Can you tell me if the introduction is correct now, or if there's something more you'd like to add/change? I hope we can make this a great article together. :) Sacropedia (talk) 01:37, 31 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Yes it looks way better now. Tough you only get one demonic stone ea run each. So it's not stones "if my English reading is correct". Also I think its better to cal them "oldschool" weapons instead "rare items". That is how weapons without inscription lock are called(https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Inscribable). For the tank part, maybe have to explain also the use of Dark escape in it, to stay alive with it. Tough already it has a lot text..not sure that makes it better looking. Again thanks--Emilesin (talk) 10:21, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Conset
Didn't find any mention of it, but I assumed this is intended to be used with a conset. --Krschkr (talk) 02:22, 9 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Yes for sure, Cons but also personal consumables must be used for a decent run. Specially for those who are not very experienced with real speed clear or a new team set-up, should use personal consumables. That would be the least thing you can do in order NOT to murder your team mates.--Emilesin (talk) 10:17, 9 March 2020 (UTC)