User talk:Vincent E V A N/Archive 3

needs archives-- Relyk 05:34, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
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Who Here is American?
Read up and take a number, PvX. Vincent Evan [Air Henchman]   03:45, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * [insert typical Amerifag comment here] -- Jai . -  03:48, September 14 2011 (UTC)
 * Americans>>>>>loleuros Life Guardian 03:51, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * umerikans r baed Gale  LUVS PEACHES! 04:06, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Look who crawled out of the bunghole. Vincent Evan [Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 04:07, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Just for you vince, wiki editing is hard Gale  LUVS PEACHES! 04:16, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * LoL es #1? Life Guardian 06:13, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * According to this, we are all Americans! Minion Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg 11:20, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd like to be no redneck plz. I'd rather keep it Dutch. We got the slaves >:D Shadow</FONT> 18:58, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Why are you quote GP? "look what trolled out of the bunghole" is more appropriate for a place like this. OoO Dark Chaos OoO 04:42, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Look who crawled in the bunghole. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 15:37, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

undo
wat? Ӎiñon  13:42, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Why did you undo my edit on the Locustway bars, Vincent? Do you like pets? Ӎiñon Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg 18:06, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't ask. Arguing with you is like masturbating to a picture of Amanda Knox or Casey Anthony. Nothing of value gets done and I feel guilty for lowering my standards to you. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 21:54, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I was asking, I haven't yet argued your riposte, so tell me why. Ӎiñon Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg 01:39, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It's fine as A/W, don't bother with it more than you should vincent-- Relyk 04:47, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * @ Minion, exactly, we aren't. I refuse to lower myself to get baited by your illogical, and nonsensical tangents. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 17:25, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * "I refuse to lower myself to get baited by your illogical, and nonsensical tangents."


 * Do we have a Great Book of Collected Wisdoms anywhere on PvX? -- DANDY ^_^ -- 13:33, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Why yes, we do! http://www.gwpvx.com/User:Relyk/Epically_Awesome_Quotes <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 13:36, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I was thinking that one probably doesn't count, but it's still the best we have! You know, I kinda feel like making that page myself. -- DANDY ^_^ -- 14:56, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It would have been nice... back like 4 fours ago. :( <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 14:59, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Like everything else, ye? :> -- DANDY ^_^ -- 15:00, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * :> Although, now upon extended thought, it'd still be good now. Better late than never! <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 15:01, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I knew you'd think so! Maybe I could list your agreement with me in The Book! It's wise as ever! -- DANDY ^_^ -- 15:06, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Looking at The Book, I noticed that the quotes are "epic" in their own series. Does "epic" mean ironic, or self-defeating for lack of a better? What defines this word, "epic?" <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 15:08, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It's the Great Book of Collected Wisdoms, what do you think the series is? :p I'm using the whole "epic" thing just to refer to similar pages, which are more for the humor value -- DANDY ^_^ -- 15:10, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * My apologies, I was curious to whether or not I was being trolled ever so gracfully (and softly) by a man of high class. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 15:13, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I was, in fact, making quite the physical feat, that is to say, kissing my very own ass, by saying it is indeed very wise to agree with my better judgment! -- DANDY ^_^ -- 15:17, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You're a good person to talk to. I feel like I'm one of those players that is one of the last safeguards to maintaining this site up these days. :< That is also to say, that seeing you kiss your very own ass is like watching interpretative dancing at it's very finest. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 15:20, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * With the authority granted to me by the right of the wittiest, I hereby dub you Vanguard Evan. Sir Evan, you may rise.
 * My dear Evan, you may very well be quite correct in these words you speak about the dire state of our affairs.
 * Oh. I used to do a bit of competitive dance back in the days, but never interpretative! When I'm really euphoric I do occasionally sing and jump and dance around, though, but it's only fine at most! ;< -- DANDY ^_^ -- 15:28, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

I must say, I felt giddy and weak at the knees for such a title. I will honor this and the council for such a promotion. I bet you we're quite good at dancing! I truly have a respect for the arts and I must say, dancing is quite a feat. One such as yourself must've had to practice hard to be in tune with rhythm whilst maintaining perfect balance. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]   15:31, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Honestly said, I was quite lazy with the whole practice part. I wouldn't mind getting back to dancing, but not the competitive kind. I feel it turns the fun into stress. It wasn't before practicing for this event with my now ex that I truly got the feel of enjoying dancing! It's a blurry picture, but you can obviously tell why it was so awesome! That missie has been dancing ballet since before pre-school or so, so it was absolutely astounding. Nowadays I'm taking singing lessons instead, because that's where my heart truly lies! --  DANDY ^_^ -- 15:53, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Such class you two! That must've truly been quite an exhilarating an event. That and the beauty that piece of eye candy has is quite tremendous. She shows the most elegance and modesty that I've seen apart from few women. Her fine bosom is showing just enough to show that she likes to flaunt, as many people would say, what she's got, yet hiding enough to show she has respect for herself. But not letting my eyes derive from the others, you too are quite well dressed for a young man. Looking at this picture, seems this was taken from a school gym. To me, that almost seems as if this event was hindered because of this local setting, but nonetheless fun. Also, I wish I could get into the arts! But sadly, I've been so busy with school and extra-curricular activities I haven't had the time to do much. It is however, my second year in Debate, which I love very much. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 16:03, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * There's a tradition at Finnish gymnasiums (note: high-school kinda thing) called "The Old's Dance", celebrated each schoolyear when the 3rd year students graduate and the 2nd year students are the "old ones" now. I'm in the largest Finnish gymnasium there is, so there really wasn't any other place but a local gym.
 * Oh, and I can't help but note your extraordinary gifts of perception. Truly remarkable, if I may say! -- DANDY ^_^ -- 16:12, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah! Seniority is a wonderful phase in high school settings. I love straddling underclassmen with knowledge of a senior. We have something somewhat similar here in my state of Maine. It's called "Project Graduation." That is where after our seniors graduate, we spend all night together as a class in a community center building and have "fun." Also known as, limited partying. No sexual intercourse, or usage and consumption of drugs and alcohol respectively. I hear it's actually fairly dandy. I am guessing you are in college now? <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 16:23, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I myself am guessing it's only about half a year since those dancies! I'm not even 18 before December :p Means If everything goes right (me not being lazy) I'll be in college in less than a year. -- DANDY ^_^ -- 16:47, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh wow! So will I! :D I just recently turned 18 a little bit less than a month ago. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 16:51, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I feel so old being in college.-- Relyk 18:11, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * and i'm older than all of these people that are better than me at gee dubya... guess thats what i get for being a "jack of all trades" and not focusing on only pve or pvp. well. assume vincent is bitchin at pvp. i'm still confused if dandy is chaos. relyk is good at pve.. other people on pvx... those two that popped up a few months ago that remind me of smity. enormous or something and his entourage. god they said tank and spank alot when they were pissing and moaning about a build the posted. annoying as fuck. 21 in march, woot. will have to have a glass of wine at my dinner party... yes... yes..  Akio _Ka  t  suragi   Akio_Katsuragi_Sig2.jpg 04:25, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Ye, 'tis indeed very much so, I is of le Mr. Kaos -- DANDY ^_^ -- 10:44, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
 * yea, i have been confused on that matter for months. guess that's cleared up.  Akio _Ka  t  suragi   Akio_Katsuragi_Sig2.jpg 18:02, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm fairly sure you have more important matters to attend to, than speculating about whether someone is dit or dat! I am most flattered by you thinking about me, somewhere there, in the land beyond the rainbow! -- DANDY ^_^ -- 21:07, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey Dandy, look what I'm reading. http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/z1/Current/annuals/a2005-2010.pdf <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 21:17, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Must be depressing! -- DANDY ^_^ -- 07:38, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh of course not. It was for a debate tournament, which my partner and I placed first against some rich town's strong debate legion. They were mad. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 19:44, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It took me a month to stop calling dandy chaos when I realized I associate ^_^ with dandy and not chaos and chaos didn't sound as cool as dandy but chaos is dejavu so I might still say chaos instead of dandy when I refer to the past.-- Relyk 23:22, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Build:Team_-_AB_Balanced
? &mdash; <font color="#CC0099">Skakid  Rally- kupo! 21:00, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Hello Mr./Mrs. Vincent

Grow up.

Sincerely, --<font color="Deepred">No <font color="Black">vii 21:06, 21 November 2011 (UTC) My dad is in the FBI. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]   21:15, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * No he is not, no you're not, no vincent. Stop calling me a freaking euro, we've don't have a debt like you rednecks that almost caused you to get bankrupt! S</FONT>h</FONT>a</FONT>d</FONT>o</FONT>w</FONT> 21:23, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Quit stereotyping me you freaking Euro! I'm going to backtrace if you keep harassing me, both of you! <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 21:25, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Quit stereotyping me as a freaking Euro! I'll give you my address, saves time! Then, if you want to wander around here, I'll come out of my house and say hi! S</FONT>h</FONT>a</FONT>d</FONT>o</FONT>w</FONT> 21:29, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * God, you're all such mean people! I hate this place! Stop patronizing me! More exclamation points! <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 21:38, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * ^^ S</FONT>h</FONT>a</FONT><FONT COLOR="#00009a">d</FONT><FONT COLOR="#0000cd">o</FONT><FONT COLOR="#0000ff">w</FONT> 21:43, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Shh Euro --Silven Shadow 21:46, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Nope, never, freedom of speech etc. <FONT COLOR="#000000">S</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000033">h</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000066">a</FONT><FONT COLOR="#00009a">d</FONT><FONT COLOR="#0000cd">o</FONT><FONT COLOR="#0000ff">w</FONT> 21:48, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Cool story bro.--Silven Shadow 21:56, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Fucking. First. Niggers. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]   01:32, 22 November 2011 (UTC)


 * -- Jai . -  01:32, November 22 2011 (UTC)

-- Jai . -  01:34, November 22 2011 (UTC)

-- <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]   01:37, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The quality of edits recently makes me cry. I'm pretty sure I told you vorpal is a very nice guy and you should be friends with him.-- Relyk 07:46, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Watch your shit
Hi, I'm new to the administrative team and seeing such blatant, unnecessary personal attacks gets my knickers in a twist. Stop doing that. Especially when it includes grammar and spelling mistakes. I'm completely serious by the way. A new misery 19:14, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I have to question how you are "new" admin, Misery. I know my list of my admins and you've been somewhat active for quite awhile. (More around 2007 - 2009 I believe?) This is no way trolling and I wish to first have this point clarified for me. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 19:33, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, looking further on the Admin Noticeboard, your warning has been noted. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 19:36, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm newly returned. That's what I meant, but you don't really need to be so hostile. A new misery  21:23, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Alol pvx --Silven Shadow 21:52, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Vote removal on E/Me ER Domination Hero
You're free to revote if you address the issues with your vote raised on the talk page. --  Toraen   talk  20:11, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't see the discussion to defend my points, or at least they weren't brought up well enough, but that matters very little. I changed my vote. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 23:51, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I was going more from the statement at the beginning of your vote that you wouldn't bother with further discussion. Your current vote is fine by me though. --  Toraen   talk  00:02, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * With regards to you missing the discussion, there's a whole section on the talk page with numbered arguments directly relating to the numbered arguments from your previous vote. It pretty much takes up half of the talk page. Dzjudz sig.png <font color="#47d1de">talk 00:04, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, you mean the massive jerk-fest with sections of troll posts, flames, and general idiocy? Yeah, I noticed that section. Will I attempt to further reword my vote to appease the idiots on the page? Nah. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 00:20, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * No I meant Toraen's and my list of arguments, but never mind. I never said you should further reword your vote. I just wanted to point out that the discussion about your vote was brought up very clearly. Dzjudz sig.png <font color="#47d1de">talk 00:48, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Wow, you replied in a very decent and direct manner. My apologies for my arrogant behavior. It's something you need here on this site. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 00:51, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Only if you're a fag or simply can't argue. I fall in the first category, but I don't think you do. -- Jai . -  03:20, November 26 2011 (UTC)
 * Really? I always feel when I meet someone in GW opposed from this site they are generally decent human beings and not-too-busy shoving illogical phalluses up their asses. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 03:30, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, yeah, I'm really only a fag on PvX. Everywhere else ('cept maybe GWGuru) I'm a really nice guy. However, how is this relevent to the discussion at hand? Oh, it's not. Okay. -- Jai . -  04:04, November 26 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm actually very good at debate. But, the quality of debates are really dictated by the average skill of every debater. Also, I'm different on GW. We should maybe do something and talk about other people on here in rude manners! <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 04:06, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Lies, everyone just hides the phallus behind their back until no one is looking while they play the game. anyways, the ww/wd damage isn't that conditional, ball foes on panic, stick in PI, bring brawling headbutt/ymlad on melee, lock ele on a casters, casters attacking spirits won't be using any hexes and hence cast less, bring nukes to scatter so wastrel's hits at that time. It's gotta be hitting most for the time! I haven't really been able to tell in testing though. But just having Mistrust/CoF and Shatter Hex makes any build awesome.-- Relyk 04:13, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Here's the problem: It doesn't matter how good you are at debate if you have a bad understanding of the underlying topic, which in this case is GW. You've yet to prove your understanding of that ever-so-crucial part, and by the way you previously voted on the ER Dom build, it's been thrown very much into much question. Whether the ER Dom build is good or not isn't even relevent. It was how you went about arguing your standpoint, using as many logical fallacies as you've gone out of your way to critisize on your drawn-out boasts of your debate abilities. That's why people are having problems here. -- Jai . -  04:18, November 26 2011 (UTC)
 * In what aspect in particular though? Are you saying that understand everything about Guild Wars? I know what I talk about, and if I see where I am wrong, I adjust my stance on it. I have time and time before, and when I need to, I am always willing to change. There is no sufficient arguments on PvX more that are worth reading or arguing about. Excluded is illogical as fuck, Vorpal has shown time and time again to be an idiot (I'll refrain from flaming him though, he is still fairly new if I remember correctly) and Alex has too big of an ego to deal with. All the opinions I've seen here are idiotic. While I agree that I really don't understand the PvE aspect of GW as I do with PvP (which is more mechanically inclined rather than skill wise), I still have a general understanding about PvE to make arguments and stances about it. The problem on this site is that nobody gives a fuck anymore. I've come to disregard what Alex says in all honesty. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 04:24, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, add me on GW for a brief moment. My IGN: Vincent E V A N. There are seriously some things I need to talk to you about. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 04:28, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Using argumentum ad hominems is not accepted in a proper debate. And your illogical arguments keep piling up, despite what everyone tells you, hence you can't debate shit. If you're seriously boasting your debate abilities I feel really sorry for you, the people around you and the place where you got your education. The other possibility is of course that you're trolling only to get some attention, if that's the case I admit you got me good lol xD <font color="Black">Vorpal [[Image:Vorpal_Signature_1.jpg|19px]] 12:33, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It's PvX, who do I need to impress? Shouldn't you being writing up more pages about my vote or something? <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 20:03, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

returning the favour
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqTE-ig7NhY&feature=related. ~  Ӎiñon  00:11, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I see your euro skit comedy and raise you some American amateur skits group. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UJ9Ggs3Dkk <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 00:17, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Final plea
Hi Vincent, first I want say that I know we both had our differences. But when I got to know you a bit better ingame, I got the feeling that we actually got along pretty well. So I want to apologize for any bad behavior on my part. I would also like to ask you to maybe reconsider your vote on my ER Domination Hero one last time. Because looking at things as they are now the build is probably going into the PvX abyss for the second time. I respect your decision <font color="Black">Vorpal  23:34, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd just like to mention no bias should be aimed towards the build creators/authors ;) ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 23:38, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Vorpal, for all fairness, I'm going to opt out of the build overall. No bias, no drama (at least on my end now), and it was rebalanced a little bit from getting rid of my vote. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]   00:32, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Good idea. I did that ages ago when i almost got caught :< [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px|link=User:Chieftain Alex]] <font face="Calibri" color="Black" size="2.5">Chieftain  <font face="Calibri" color=CC6633 size="2.5"> Alex  01:01, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

epilepsy
you don't die from that shit generally. you just wake up feeling like someone beat your head in with rebar and a temporary inability to mentally process anything. just an fyi. (had to call an ambulance for some kid who collapsed right outside my building last year. i walked out just as he was starting to come to. couldn't even tell me what his name was. another passer-by told me the kid just dropped to the ground out of the blue - not sure if it was epilepsy, but seeing someone foam at the mouth is slightly disconcerting and tends to be indicative of a gran mal. luckily he landed in the snow.) (all that said, giving someone a seizure over the internet would still be grade-A hilarious.) Danny 02:02, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

tf2
what servers do you frequent? also, the machina is shit. they need to add a strange huntsman to the game already. also also, DannyDeranged on steam. come get owned by me and Dee some time. Danny 10:11, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm still fairly new to TF2, I have no frequent server besides a trade server I camp on. Great fodder for my strange sydney sleeper. The Machina gets shit done, the penetration bonus is fairly fun at times whereas I have accumulated a couple of double and triple kills during my camping sessions. I'm trying to get myself off of it though, I really dislike the trail it leaves behind. I'm starting to prefer the sydney sleeper just because of the jarate effect. I know at least my teammates can pick off a kill if I can't. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 14:32, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * traditional sniper is the next best thing to the huntsman because it headshots AND doesn't leave retarded trails. Danny 17:08, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Mercenaries
Don't worry, I don't have any so don't intend to care about them being trashed over 7h balanced. <font face="Calibri" color="Black" size="2.5">Chieftain <font face="Calibri" color=CC6633 size="2.5"> Alex  00:33, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I felt that the message should have gotten out. No offense meant. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 00:41, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Spam
Check please, seems like you'd enjoy it. rąʂKƴɖooƿɭɘş 08:51, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * my steam is: applepython. I'll be at school while it downloads. This looks really lulzy. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 11:53, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Wait till you drop wrench with us. Fucking godly. rąʂKƴɖooƿɭɘş 12:07, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Your vote on Build:A/E PvP Gust
I just thought that I would point out that I currently consider it invalid due to the IAS comment. If I recall correctly, assassin builds using a double knockdown combo and no fast activating attack skills qknock perfectly without IAS. As such, while you could use an IAS and then qstep to ensure the second knockdown, that doesn't make any sense. The Wastrel's chain doesn't have an IAS either and you 5/5'd that. The spikes take the exact same amount of time as they are based upon qknocking timing. The two chains do the same damage when using shock, the Gust chain obviously does more, but is going to be harder to pull off. I know there is an optional slot for a shadow step on the Gust build, but this should really be disregarded as shadow step -> aftercast -> shock -> aftercast is admittedly ridiculously slow.

So really the difference between the two builds is perma 33% move speed boost, with the ability to use Gust on allies as well, and Dash, the more difficult to land higher damage chain, the fact that Wastrel's Collapse is a shadowstep that doesn't give a fuck about the aftercast because the chain has already started and that you could use your chain even if Wastrel's were interrupted. You wouldn't really use your chain between Wastrel's because the cooldowns are pretty close to Wastrel's one on Twisting Fangs anyway. You might be able to do a quick Leaping Mantis and Fox Fangs for pathetic added pressure at some point. Really, in a comparison of the two builds it is Gust vs Wastrel's. I don't know why people want to use the Falling Spider chain, the only thing it gives you is bar compression at the risk of your chain fucking up. The only reason you would want bar compression is for RA so you can get a ress signet too. If they took the Wastrel's chain you wouldn't even need Shock and the chain would do more damage. The biggest problem would be that you would have to Gust during the chain to get full damage, probably at the end or start, but starting would involve perfectly timing when it expires.

These are all reasons to give the build a less than perfect score. Lack of IAS is not and inconsistent with your vote on the Wastrel's sin. Your options are to prove me wrong on the qknocking point, adjust your vote removing the reference to a lack of IAS and generally improving the quality of the vote or simply have your vote removed by me. Your move Vincent. A new misery 23:47, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Misery, the beauty of the WC spike bar, IMO, is how Wastrel's Collapse can be used. As it is, it can be used as a knockdown to initiate a chain (which can't Qknock by itself, as can't the shock sin), fake out players, or just for mobility. WC is a multi-purpose elite and with that, the chain by itself can be used in really, two different ways; let's call those methods long and short. Long = full chain, short = LMT, Fox Fangs, and TF. While there is no IAS, you at least have that quick, burst damage of LMT and Fox (which ARE good) while the shock sin is based around KDs, one of which is around shock, which gives 10 exhaustion. Touch range KD is alright and can be utilized, but WC gives me more versatility, which makes me strongly believe that WC > Gust Sin.


 * I disagree, Gust does give you a good (yet strippable) 33% IMS, but I believe it's usage is more effective on support characters; especially on flaggers. As a double casting spell sort of bull's strike, it may KD, but it's effectiveness comes from mitigating physical pressure from allies. I can use it for a well timed kd and reap the benefits of that, but I can also just pull bull's strike, or even any elite for that matter, say, Power Block, and still get some usage out of that. Just because I can. doesn't mean I shouldn't. I notice that this build can be compared to the old Coward build. That had great shutdown. That was strong linebacking and I could build an effective spike off it. But Coward had stronger uses than just to be used to start a spike.


 * For the record, I don't plan to look at this TOO much, so I am going to remove my vote until you and I can resolve this, which of course, will be done civilly. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 00:29, 10 January 2012 (UTC)


 * You praise WC for being multi purpose when Gust might be the single most multi purpose elite to exist to date. If you're using Shock to open your chain every time and exhausting yourself that is player error not build error. As Misery pointed out TF c/d = 15. WC c/d = 20. You're hardly going to want to use TF when WC is down. "it may KD, but it's effectiveness comes from mitigating physical pressure from allies" Agreed. It's excellent at helping your team. This is a point for Gust not against it. From here you suggest it's the same as taking Pblock. Well if Pblock provided a knock down and IMS (Important for melee) then I might agree.


 * You talk about the Gust kd as if it's heavily unreliable. Good players will be doing one of 3 things at all times. Attacking, Moving or Casting. Mind games come into play here. In the same way a monk may not kite instantly to avoid bulls they may do the same to avoid gust in which case you have prevented them from moving. Good job. The range it will trigger at is also much larger than bulls and the monk can't even spear for adren because he will get KD'd. Then, if you want, you can use shock to open your chain.


 * I might aswell go all out seeing as i've started. "Having more KD =/= good, it's how you use the KD that counts." On a build more KD's is always a good thing. How you use them is up to the player. "Gust is clearly for build wars" This isn't even a point, it's more of a whine. "This spike is also conditional to KD" That's why shock is there but you didn't realise that as you said "Shock is a waste". (Talking about Gust being conditional) "which WC is not" WC is conditional and to be 100% sure you get your KD you normally wait for them to cast something and use the aftercast time to attack.


 * Glad I got that out. Sorry for stealing your bit Misery. SpongeBobSignaturePants.jpg 01:00, 10 January 2012 (UTC)


 * That turned into a rather large wall rather fast. Sorry about that. SpongeBobSignaturePants.jpg 01:03, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree with the fact that IAS part of the vote is invalid, but isn't this a minor point to bring up when the other 5-5 votes don't address Wastrel's Collapse at all? It seems singled-out because herp brought the vote up as an issue on the talk page (author bias and all).-- Relyk 02:04, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I might be paranoid but that's still a trash vote on a build with otherwise 5-5 votes. I think it points itself out too. I also think I adressed everything in his vote and the only thing that's valid is that WC has an instant KD while with this you have the dc aftercast and then have to cast shock. Come to think of it Misery pointed that out not Vincent but it's still a valid point. If I missed something when adressing Vincents vote please point it out but from what I can tell that one reason isn't good enough to trash it when you look at the pros of Gust. SpongeBobSignaturePants.jpg 02:12, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Vincent is a cockmongling shitter who doesn't realize that an elite which gives you 2x nearby range bulls (which lands through warding) with a perma-33% speed buff (in the same line as shock and a conjure spell) is an orgasmic split skill. WC is great because it gives you a shadowstep (effectively) without aftercast as well as a knock which goes through warding but it's not BETTER than Gust. Gust is mad strong and vince needs to stop being a little scene bitch before i grab him by the extensions and make him serenade my veiny throbber.--TahiriVeila 09:37, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Also: no one but blod necros brings enchant removals on splits and if you're playing a necro who burns his strip on a 10s rechargable gust then the game should be over by 6 mins.--TahiriVeila 09:38, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Walls of text from Vincent and Herp when the only point Vincent really needs to address is the fact that his vote talks about an IAS. I'll take a look at the other votes Relyk. A new misery  11:09, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Didn't see any obvious derp in any other votes Relyk. If there is another vote with a specific problem, you can hit me up on my talk page. A new misery  11:11, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Computer Science
Can someone help me with a question? <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]   21:24, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Ctrl + Z -- DANDY ^_^ -- 21:26, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * You need to be more specific. That's like asking if somebody can help you with physics. <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  21:46, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * It's with a mathlab. Pretty much about instantiating multiple objects of a class and calling them in a main program. It would probably be easier if I just emailed you my code. For some reason, some numbers aren't going through to my "Rational" class. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 23:09, 10 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Also, I was really unsure whether or not to just be precise at first when asking. I presumed you knew about computer science, but I never thought you'd help me. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 23:10, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I have no issues helping people with code where I can. However unfortunately for you I've never interacted with mathlab so I couldn't say how helpful I'd be (plus I'm about to go for the night) <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  21:46, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Ahh, well, the program is JCreator, definitely for beginners. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 23:29, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I can confirm matlab is the world's worst programming language in the eyes of every mechanical engineering student at university. (entirely technical usage and not at all java sadly..) [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px|link=User:Chieftain Alex]] <font face="Calibri" color="Black" size="2.5">Chieftain  <font face="Calibri" color=CC6633 size="2.5"> Alex  23:57, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I guess this shows my ignorance. It is a Math-Lab, not another language. Zzz. :< <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 00:00, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * let's see the code. you can use http://pastebin.com/ Smity Smitington 00:37, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * http://pastebin.com/cTWtkx0D As of now, it's a matter of getting getRational and public Rational  to work properly I think. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan  <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 00:50, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * in your multiply method, you have created resultNum and resultDen in the method's local scope (you are not actually setting the objects version of those variables). Just remove the "int" in front of each operation.  Also, not sure what you are doing in getRational, but it looks like you might be doing the same thing with creating local variables instead of modifying the object's variables. Smity Smitington 01:18, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

(EC) int a = resultNum; int b = resultDen; String Rational = resultNum + "/" + resultDen; return Rational;

Why do you use a and b as variables then do nothing with them? also, I think you're looking for "firstNum" and "firstDen" instead of resultDen/Num cause resultDen/Num don't have values. try

int a = this.firstNum; int b = this.firstDen; String Rational = a + "/" + b; return Rational;

hope that helps &mdash; <font color="#CC0099">Skakid  Rally- kupo! 01:21, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * his result vars are set upon completing an operation (ie multiply). My above comment explains why I think he was creating those a and b variables.  You are on to something though, his method is not really safe because it doesn't gaurentee that resultNum and resultDen have been initialized before calling.  You might want to create some kind of resultWasCalculated boolean that you set upon an operation and you check before calling getRational (typically your operation methods would actually return a result instead of setting object result members). Smity Smitington 01:28, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I created an example for you that shows a snippet of what I think you are trying to do and the "right" way to do it http://pastebin.com/9GQKxwM6. Instead of dealing with all these first and result variablers, just return a new Rational for each operation.  Also notice that I added a static modifier to getGCF, since it doesn't affect any of the object's members.   Smity Smitington 01:49, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey Skakid and Smity, thanks alot for the help. My trouble lied in the variables I used. I also spent a good five minutes wondering why the hell den1 wasn't working in the main class only to find out that int den1 = Integer.parseInt(strDen2); :p. Thanks a lot both of you. Also, thanks for showing me the "this" keyword. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan  <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 02:03, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * "this" can improve readability since it makes it clear that a variable is a member of the object, but it is not always required. It was however required in the constructor since the parameters were the same name as the object members. Smity Smitington 02:16, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Which is weird because our teacher has yet to teach us this. Hell, our teacher doesn't teach us anything essentially. Thanks a lot once more. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 02:23, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Rule in any language: parameter variables are ALWAYS local and specific to the instance of the function. Danny 04:33, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Second rule of any language: if you're asking for input, your user is stupid and will always put in the exact opposite of what you want. Case in point if I type "hffgdhj" in anyone of those dialogue boxes, it will error the second it tries to turn it into an int! <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  17:13, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * If this is for like a first year computer science paper he won't have to catch errors. A new misery  17:30, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * depends on the course really. Mine for instance basically covered error handling along side user inputs (given you're likely to encounter all kinds of errors there). However Other courses may choose differently. Plus if you stick error handling in when you've not been taught it it'd impress your professor. <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  17:48, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Or it makes it obvious you've been consulting more experienced programmers ^^ [cheating] lol [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px|link=User:Chieftain Alex]] <font face="Calibri" color="Black" size="2.5">Chieftain  <font face="Calibri" color=CC6633 size="2.5"> Alex  18:05, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Unless you give them reason to, they have no reason to believe you didn't just look online. Lord knows you could just do a Goggle search and 9/10 the top page would be what you want. <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  18:31, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, the class is AP Computer Science A so I do look for help online. That whole class is based around the final exam.and this is our teachers first time teaching CS at this pace. He isn't that good so this, honestly, is one of my most independent classes. Computer science is very interesting, but I'm just here for fun. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 19:15, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I doubt many high school students would bother taking the time for error handling in an AP class, at least in my high school. My school didn't have an AP course sadly. I started CS141 (intro class, teaching with Java) this quarter. Our first assignment was spelling out Mississippi in block letters.-- Relyk 23:25, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Now extend it to take in any string ;). Smity Smitington 03:19, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

all input should be handled via a do-while loop, really, especially if you're not catching errors. also, if you need help with prepping for the exam Vincent, hit me up. my school didn't have a course in it but i still pulled a 5 on AB on my own. Danny 21:41, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Your pee fetish
is starting to freak me out man. --Silven Shadow 13:43, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Eeeeehm, wait, what?  Shadow  Talk  13:45, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Imma pee on you-- Relyk 14:44, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Imma pee on you <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 16:43, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Imma pee on you --Silven Shadow 02:19, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Imma pee on you  RąʂKɭɘş ♣  Mission control out.  02:28, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Imma shit in your faces and teach you to beg for it -- DANDY ^_^ -- 10:11, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Not funny, that's how my mom died! <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 12:07, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Whoever taught her to do it was probably pretty shit at it -- DANDY ^_^ -- 12:46, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * One may say she was a shitter. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 14:27, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I say Vince is full of shit .-- Relyk 14:32, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Scatologically,I must disagree. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 17:47, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Another word that rolls off the tongue-- Relyk 19:08, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

topic above is wierd
Out of interest, what would you have voted this bar as if it was RA only? <font face="Calibri" color="Black" size="2.5">Chieftain <font face="Calibri" color=CC6633 size="2.5"> Alex  18:52, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Energy denial is probably one of the worst concepts you can come up with for AB. -- DANDY ^_^ -- 18:59, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Gates can't vote for shit. He is starting to annoy me now. There is no way that Arcane Langour can act as diversion. I mean, their consequence for casting is totally different. I'd give it a 4-4. Because EDenial is silly but nonetheless okay. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 19:28, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * E-denial is boss. Just not so much in RA. Danny 21:56, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I should have clarified. But typing on a tablet is not so fun. By the way, when will we play GA? <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 21:58, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * no clue. i'm loving call of duty too much still to really bother logging in on GA much. if rask catches me when you guys are gonna play, though, i'll get on. Danny 22:07, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Could you give me some insider advice in the shitter-equivalent to the AK-74u in MW3? My friends are bringing it over soon and I need to know what's good and not good. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 22:10, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The 74u from BlOps? Closest is going to be the UMP. PP90's also a beast and you can hipfire from a fucking mile away with it (not with the UMP, that is - with the PP90). Basically, once you unlock Steady Aim grab a PP90 or P90 and stop using your sights because there's no point. Also also, Akimbo FMG-9s. Danny 22:25, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, meant the 74u from Blops. I found that using the MPL with rapid fire with scavenger was pretty fucking op. And I see. What perks for UMP. I haven't followed CoD in forever. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 22:27, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The MP7 is also beast but it's last SMG to unlock it. No recoil = lol. Anyway, really depends. I'll update my MW3 page sometime today. Mostly, mix and match perks and strike packages to fit your playstyle. Danny 22:40, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I forgot about that change. :o I'll check it out. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 22:41, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Step1: P90. also MW3 sucks play BO. --Silven Shadow 14:41, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * All MW games are silly.  RąʂKɭɘş ♣  14/f/japan  16:07, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I actually did like the first one, but that's probably because it was my first CoD game. If I went back now it probably sucks XD --Silven Shadow 17:13, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * MW3 is more skill/twitch based than BlOps was. I've started to like it better because I can effectively faceroll pretty much every game and more often than not I can carry the team entirely on my own. Danny 18:36, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * MW3 was soo retarded and entirely based on weapons for till about lvl40, which is when I stopped playing. Not to mention the feel of the game is kiddy and plastic. --Silven Shadow 23:05, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * can't take you seriously at this point, tbh. Danny 02:44, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * No one takes him seriously, bout time you jumped on board.  RąʂKɭɘş ♣  14/f/japan  07:14, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Because yeah everybody likes MW3 derppppppppppppp --Silven Shadow 10:27, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Debate States
For those that care, my partner and I came in first for Varsity Public Forum debate at the state tournament. Went 6-0 like a fucking beast. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]   04:42, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * i went 23-0 in TDM on mw3 earlier today. is that about the same? Danny 08:07, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * You go 30+-3 often, so no not really.This is like 100-3 in a 5 minute match :>  RąʂKɭɘş ♣  14/f/japan  08:30, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

I want a hexway!
And you are going to help me hehehehehehehehehe. . Also, will you help me around GA?  Shadow  Talk  18:24, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I normally don't play GA ALL THAT TOO much, but when I can, I'll schedule a time to play with you. And I'm making a theory page right now. It won't be much. Gimme one moment! <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 18:26, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Look at mine (Linked)  Shadow  Talk  18:28, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I think you should fix the Migraine bar to


 * Or


 * And switch the other illusion bar to an Esurge bar. Not so sure about the mind burn either. Seems decent. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 18:44, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * ESurge or Panic, it is a pressure/hex team. Will do the migraine, sec.  Shadow  Talk  18:54, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Panic wouldn't do well with Migraine together imo. Esurge is a lame way of shutting down. Panic can be useful, but I've only seen it in good teams. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 18:56, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I liked soothing more. I made a GvG Hex-Split. Probably aweful, but just check it :P  Shadow  Talk  18:57, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * No condition spreading?  Shadow  Talk  18:58, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I think you can spread conditions enough with the PR bar, ranger and ele. It doesnt seem that too hard. :p If you want, you could change the LC to a Taint as well. That's more old school. Inferring that this build is for competent players, I believe that migraine would be more well suited for this team. There is a lack of daze and lame condition spreading, but the point of hexway is to spread a strong form of pressure. If your team can do that well enough, then you can bring something else instead of Fevered Dreams. Migraine on the prot/hb would be hilariously annoying. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 19:01, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, I love the synergy between Grenth's Fingers and Wearying Strike. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 19:03, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I love another synergy from PR-removal and DD  Shadow  Talk  19:04, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Seems like decent burning pressure. :p <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 19:06, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, maybe a rework to the DD bar. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 19:06, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Add Reap Impurities??? XD. Btw, the Glyph-Lava combo is spreading some nice burning to different people which lasts short enough for Fragility XD  Shadow  Talk  19:07, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't tbh, and glyph of immolation doesn't spread burning. It only applies burning to your target. :< <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 19:10, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll fix it, look how cruel I am with those mesmers XD  Shadow  Talk  19:12, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

(Reset Indent)Ehhh, lack of CoF and Shame make me sad. Wastrel's seems out of place too. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]   19:22, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Wastrel's is mean with Panic on the same target XD. I looked at the build on PvX, this build was actually the hexway based build.  Shadow  Talk  19:24, 29 January 2012 (UTC)