Archive talk:Team - 2 Ritualist Hero Midline

Disonnance is overrated.  Anvil God  zzz... 18:56, 4 June 2011 (UTC)


 * 3 hero builds see no use anymore...this is for 7h teams since its kind of useless to post full 7h builds, because they are basically all the same mes+mes+rt+rt+backline+random hero.Illoyon 12:21, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * i didn't realise the embark update removed 4-man areas from the game. [[Image:Denardraw_sig.jpg|19px]] Dêñår  drāŵ  12:44, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * This ritualist midline is common to a lot of hero builds though, like the mesmer duo is. If we keep that one there's not much basis for deleting this one. --  Toraen   talk  07:21, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The idea of a spiritwall is core to using an sos rit and sogm rit as it is in spiritway. Im fine with having this as long as no one puts in an ST rit variant >.>-- Relyk 08:57, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * These two do seem to have extra synergy beyond that of an ST rit, so as a dual rit build I'd say it's notable. --JonTheMon 20:42, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Similar build
Wait, how is this different than Archive:Team - Dual Spirit Spam? --JonTheMon 21:20, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * That's two players, this is a common combo found in 7 hero teams. --  Toraen   talk  00:24, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Meta?
I love this build combo. I often wish I had another Rt player with me so we could dual spirit spam all day. However I can’t wrap my head around how this is a meta setup for hero teams, considering how ineffectual and cumbersome the SoGM bar is. Juniper real (talk) 16:01, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * There's a general discussion on meta tags anyway, perhaps you've got something to contribute. Deciding on whether something is Meta in PvE is... not quite easy. PvXwiki talk:Real Vetting --Krschkr (talk) 09:48, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * It used to be commonly included in hero teams (popularized by the 3-hero spiritway in the pre-7-hero era) before people transitioned to almost exclusively using the second rit for an ST prot. Heroes aren't great at SoGM so even in the brief transition period I think a lot of people just ran offensive communing spirits with ST as the elite. If you were willing to micro the SoGM to precast the spirits then it was respectable at the beginning of fights, but anything that dragged out would see that rit's output suffer. -Toraen (talk) 09:53, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * The meta definition proposed seems consistent with my own opinion. PvE Meta is fine as being synonymous with familiar. TBH I just wanted to see some sympathetic outrage that this hero build wasn’t trashed already :P if there were more active voters I’d suggest a split and re-vote Juniper real (talk) 00:45, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Actually I don't think this is supposed to have the general tag anyway because Archive:Team - Dual Spirit Spam already exists (linked in the previous section). Could just update this to the actually commonly run SoS + ST prot, although they don't have much specific synergy with each other, so the other option would be to just archive this one (reason: SoGM heroes gave way to ST heroes). -Toraen (talk) 10:24, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Rather archive it than make it SoS + ST, they really don't have much to do with each other (although I know someone who loves spirit to flesh on the ST and says that the SoS spirits are busted with priority). But of course we could make a "Standard PvE hero backline" build page consisting of an ST prot and a BiP healer. If I was to judge from my own builds this two hero backline definitely is meta and the bestestestest thing around. BiP doesn't deserve to end up on the same page as curses healers anyway. --Krschkr (talk) 13:36, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * amen. The day I found bip (bip found me?) was the day I stopped the wasteful speccing of inspir on 50%+ of my heroes Juniper real (talk) 14:45, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * A page for that backline doesn't seem really necessary, since ST and BiP don't have any special synergy that warrants it. It would also be pretty redundant to the BiP team pages already posted. BiP Healer could be split off from the general SoLS healer if you feel strongly enough about it though. -Toraen (talk) 10:41, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, the feels are strong! Guess I'll do it soon. --Krschkr (talk) 11:23, 13 July 2018 (UTC)