Archive talk:E/any Mind Blast Water Hybrid

I thought it was nice. I added Glowing Gaze to help with energy management and it worked great. I had a constant supply of energy and could easily spam Rodgort's. I reccomend it. :) Reynos 03:10, 30 October 2007 (CET) Thats some gg energy management... add GoLE please.  Beast 194  18:51, 21 October 2007 (CEST)
 * It doesn't need it, lern2mindblast if you fail at e-managing this. - Rawrawr  18:53, 21 October 2007 (CEST)


 * I still think GoLE is a better choice as any slight enchantment removal will kill you. If you plan to use your water skills i highly suggest it. 2 10 energy skills that dont cause burning fails. And meteor doesnt cause burning either. I Mind Blast fine but if your relying on rodgorts' burning and mind blast to e-manage this build you've got a surprise coming.[[Image:Beast194Sig.Jpg|19px]]  Beast  194  20:44, 21 October 2007 (CEST)
 * Mind Blast isn't glowing gaze. Srsly, it's the "click here for energy every 3 seconds" skill. Talking of which I'll ad Hex Breaker to variants against diversion. --Mala[[Image:Mala_sig_Mind_Blast.jpg|19px]] 22:14, 21 October 2007 (CEST)

Compromise
Add GoLE to variants and il be happy.  Beast 194  20:46, 21 October 2007 (CEST)
 * I support a "If you can't manage energy, consider using Glyph of Lesser Energy." variant. --Edru viransu //QQ about me /sysop 20:48, 21 October 2007 (CEST)
 * If you can't manage energy on a Mind Blaster, GoLE ain't going to help you. - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] Krowman   20:59, 21 October 2007 (CEST)

Replacing team Mind Blaster then :). Ha he complains about e-management all the time......  Beast 194  03:58, 22 October 2007 (CEST)
 * Its ridiculously easy. 1-2-1-2-1-1-5-1-1-6-1-1-2-1 etc. - Rawrawr  14:30, 22 October 2007 (CEST)


 * Ok after testing this i kicked that guy from the guild that is just sad. This is fine.[[Image:Beast194Sig.Jpg|19px]]  Beast 194  22:38, 22 October 2007 (CEST)

When trying this build i didnt have any energy management problems at all. But i would recommend glowing gaze for anyone with energy management problems, but if you dont i would just insert a self heal in the optional slot. The build worked great for me, its an awesome build.

Same?
This is almost the same build as mind blast warder...http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:E/any_Mind_Blast_Warder Himynameisbobbyjoe 14:51, 3 November 2007 (CET)


 * That one is a warder...this one isn't?--[[image:Victoryisyours_Sig_Image.jpg‎|19px]]Victory is yours 15:04, 3 November 2007 (CET)

The most unoriginal build ever
especially in light of yesterday's featured build, and Edru's vote. I'm just putting that out there. Shogunshen 16:56, 3 November 2007 (CET)
 * Not really. It puts MB's energy to good use, which is becoming more popular since RI was buffed. --Mala[[Image:Mala_sig_Mind_Blast.jpg|19px]] 17:10, 3 November 2007 (CET)
 * It's original because it puts MB's energy to good use? From that statement I'm gleaning that you think other ones didn't? And what's RI? Shogunshen 17:42, 3 November 2007 (CET)
 * Originality isn't what wins. Being good is. --Edru viransu //QQ about me /sysop 18:04, 3 November 2007 (CET)
 * The other one has some of the same skills because those are good skills. It's putting MB energy to use by using utility skills as opposed to just fire nukes. RI = Rodgort's Invocation. And, I didn't say that anything was wrong with the warder, it's fine. --Mala[[Image:Mala_sig_Mind_Blast.jpg|19px]] 18:32, 3 November 2007 (CET)

Steam
if you are going to invest in water magic and burning why not add steam as a variate?--Simpson man 17:45, 3 November 2007 (CET)
 * 'Cause Blurred Vision, being a Hex, is harder to remove than burning. Shogunshen 17:50, 3 November 2007 (CET)
 * Steam is inferior to rodgort's for damage and blurred for shutdown, especially since your only burning source is RI. --Edru viransu //QQ about me /sysop 18:01, 3 November 2007 (CET)

Fail Blast ?
imo &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.71.116.68 (contribs).
 * lrn2play. --[[Image:Mafaraxas_sig.jpg|click moar]] Mafaraxas 21:08, 11 February 2008 (EST)

Archived
Pretty bad nerfs, i think it should be archived.←Crossfire Is Buff 19:19, 6 March 2008 (EST)
 * Ummm...No. The nerfs are minor to this build.  I ran this build at 14 Fire Magic with no problems pre-nerf.  14 Fire Magic for MB is unchanged.  +8 energy is enough.  The Rodgort's hit hardly hurts either.  Carry a 40/40 Fire set and you'll be fine.  Gaze Of Balthazar 21:13, 6 March 2008 (EST)
 * This build can still accomplish it's task even with the nerfs IMOWaterbottle5 08:56, 7 March 2008 (EST)
 * MB Nerf isn't horrible, but Rodgort's can be bad. Still, it does work. --[[image:GoD Sig3.jpg|20px]] Guild of  Deals  10:38, 15 March 2008 (EDT)
 * We don't need to start archiving builds because they went from "Kill everything in sight" to "Still kills but needs competence and intelligence to work." Although Anet has a habit of nerfing things past "Still kills" all the way to "I think they're just spiting us now." A bit sad, really. DancingZombies 22:40, 20 March 2008 (EDT)

Glyph of Immolation
Imo more useful than Immolate. It deals less damage, but can cause repeated burning and gives guaranteed blind from Steam. Klumpeet . ŧ . ¢. 03:52, 10 April 2008 (EDT)

What do you think of adding epidemic to spread the blind and burning around?
 * nah. --[[Image:Mafaraxas_sig.jpg|click moar]] Mafaraxas 02:12, 16 April 2008 (EDT)

Gank Version
What would you guys do to make a gank version of this? It would be nice to have a self heal, and a speed buff, and consume corpse is also nice if you like to cheat(it isn't but you know wat i mean). Would you drop gust, Blurred, Immolate or Rodgorts? More like 2/4 in order to fit Flame Dijins and Consume/Self Heal.I Heal If U Shutup 00:21, 30 May 2008 (EDT)
 * GANK could prolly roll all W/Mo wammos with breeze and STILL wtfpwn everybody.. It's called Skillz! --BlazingBurdy 01:36, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Mgrinshpon
Remove his vote as bar has changed? Dutchess of Rose aka  lukejohnson  - talk - Contributions 16:44, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

TA...
NOOOOOOOO!! Removed! Dshot says hi to all the current skills, oh there comes Magebane oO Massive   09:43, 23 July 2008 (EDT)

PvE
Make a dedicated PvE build instead of tagging this imo. I think all of the PvE ones so far got archived. Toraen  talk  19:59, 3 May 2009 (UTC)