Build talk:W/P Seven Weapons Stance Spear

This is something I run pretty often actually, it allows me to VQ when im ultra lazy and dont wanna bother moving around chasing enemies chasing my healers. I run it with SY most of the time, which enables me to easily drop the 2nd healer for another damage hero. I've done both Blinding Surge ele as well as 2nd N/P and made them both discords. No mercs or WoC hero. Willarddog (talk) 14:55, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I only tend to run /P on assassin for areas where I never make it to death blossom (OwliMylMRWvIq/cv9gpgNTWDCA). Warrior can always go for spammy pure damage builds that work no matter what. But hey, good to hear someone actually uses a SWS spear build. --Krschkr (talk) 21:47, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * To clarify, I have not run it with SWS yet, as I don't have the skill yet (I know... I know...). I've been using Cruel Spear in it's place. It's obvious to say that using SWS would likely double my damage output. Willarddog (talk) 04:39, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

uh... sprint?
IMO there are some unnecessary variants skills here: Lion's Comfort is the only questionable one that I would keep only because it also has great utility via adrenaline gain Willarddog (talk) 13:12, 15 April 2021 (UTC) by that logic we should delete PvXwiki. :p --Krschkr (talk) 11:43, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Res Sig (not with lion's comfort)
 * Sprint
 * "WY!" (why would you take this over SY?)
 * My thoughts on these:
 * Resurrection Signet – it's a good resurrection, morale boosts are a thing and if you need more than one occasional resurrection your team is crap. Since lion's comfort is not in the mainbar there's no conflict. We can add a note not to combine the two skills.
 * Sprint – there are many mission that involve running items around. In Prophecies they slow you down. It's nice to have a speed boost in the variants for these occasions. Might need an explanatory note.
 * "Watch Yourself!" – if you want to reduce the damage on your team by ~33% but already use three PvE-only skills and can't bring SY.
 * I really dislike lion's comfort in the variant suggestions, but I know that it is useful for PUGs and the adrenaline mechanic really does have its merits, such as carrying adrenaline over to a fight that's up to 40 seconds away from the last one. --Krschkr (talk) 16:49, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Since when did we start listing resurrection skills on player builds (outside of strictly support roles)? As for sprint, same point stands. Do we add IMS skills to every PvE player damage build? Not only should we not encourage it outside of melee builds, but if someone wants one they can figure it out. We have heros go command for a reason. Following that, Hero builds already bring "SYG!". "WY!" is a waste. In pugs, if you wanted damage, you would not run this bar. if you wanted party defense, you would run this bar with "SY!". "SY!" should be mainbar (Over "IAtS!") while we're at it, according to that line of logic. This bar is essentially the exact same thing as a Soldier's Fury Paragon, albiet with slightly more damage and worse party support. The optionals should reflect that. Willarddog (talk) 21:12, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Listing good resurrection skills in the variants has always made sense and should always have been done. If you make resurrection scrolls a requirement for player builds you can aswell ditch all but the top three builds, as you won't need anything but insane consumables-doped dervishes and mesmers to complete most content. "[...] if someone wants one they can figure it out"
 * I mean if you want to add a res as a variant to every single PvE player build, by all means go ahead. Sure, it makes (somewhat a little) sense in pugs, but most of the times in pugs a backliner bringers a rez skill. You would never bring one as a player with heros, unless you were a monk maybe? Willarddog (talk) 15:10, 21 April 2021 (UTC)