Archive talk:Team - IV Spike

Archive talk:Team - IV Spike/Archive 1

New page.  -- Gringo TALK 16:59, 16 December 2008 (EST) 
 * imo if you wanna be doing that WoH Prot crap for HA, then try the new Peace and Harmony, unless you really think that the 15 seconds of no spells, meant for the caller, will really make enough of a difference to not get raped by hexes. Driggy 16:08, 16 December 2008 (EST)
 * Its not about hexes, its about getting spikes through because of PD mesmers. You really need it in the build.  -- Gringo TALK 21:10, 16 December 2008 (EST) 
 * Driggy... Ever played this before lulz? Or even much tombz? O_O Rawrawr Dinosaur 16:11, 16 December 2008 (EST)
 * The only reason there even is a monk is because of spell breaker btw. Rawrawr Dinosaur 16:11, 16 December 2008 (EST)
 * prob really bad idea, but monk *could* bring arcane mimicry? :D Lol -- —Daɽkɘʃʂ   ӍcÇɧɽiʂtmaʂmonǥɘɼ  [[Image:Drk_Chs_Ball.jpg|17px17px]]. 20:24, 16 December 2008 (EST)
 * Needs more healing. Only 33 of 64 skills are healing/protection skills, that's only a bit more than 50%. 6 "attack" skills only, another 6 "attack" skills that usually are never used. So much for game balance c o m p l e t e l y  broken. --82.83.41.4 20:55, 16 December 2008 (EST)
 * if you dont use SoS then ur bad. its good for fake spikes, follow ups, owning any team with thumpers, iways (who you see a lot).  -- Gringo TALK 01:59, 16 December 2008 (EST) 
 * I know the possible uses of SoS, but I know also it is almost never used during regular gameplay (using it after the game is essentially already won doesn't count). For some obvious reasons. IWAY may be the one big exception. --82.83.41.4 00:12, 17 December 2008 (EST)
 * Of course you use it in a normal game. Spike someone, SoS infuser afterwards, pow free kill. Rawrawr Dinosaur 13:28, 17 December 2008 (EST)

drop channeling on the monk for shell shock, dont argue please just do it...
 * ill put it in optionals for the n/mo (instead of res sig), but im not dropping channeling for it... -- Gringo TALK 03:21, 16 December 2008 (EST) 
 * chaneling is like nessecary lol-- Ogre MAD  22:25, 16 December 2008 (EST)
 * you've got 6 healers. Why should it be necessary...-- Ikimono I know my Paragons [[Image:Paragon-icon-small.png]] 00:19, 17 December 2008 (EST)
 * Not to mention that it would be on a spellbreaker monk that only has to cast spells every so often from all the external support.-- Ikimono I know my Paragons [[Image:Paragon-icon-small.png]] 00:21, 17 December 2008 (EST)
 * the point is that he doesnt have to be on spike so if they spike through your spikes you will still be able to catch them and still have all of your damage on the spike.. -- Gringo <font color="#444">TALK 14:10, 17 December 2008 (EST) 
 * You'll need to fit either one Infuse or 2-3 Spirit Transfers in there. Drag  nmn   talk cont  13:25, 17 December 2008 (EST)
 * SB? Brandnew.  13:26, 17 December 2008 (EST)
 * Then it should be fitted on the monk, if the idea is that you can catch spikes while spiking. (I take it you mean Spirit Bond, not Spell Breaker) Drag  nmn   talk cont  14:01, 17 December 2008 (EST)

Gole and shell shock are much better than channeling in this. Rawrawr Dinosaur 13:28, 17 December 2008 (EST)
 * Don't archive this i run i've been running it the past few days beating teaseway fine. Interrupts are not a problem 69.113.127.39 19:38, 29 January 2009 (EST)
 * that was me btw [[Image:19px-Spell_Breaker.jpg‎ ]]<font color="RED">Ebolax 19:39, 29 January 2009 (EST)
 * This does work well even with tease, but i found lichway to work better [[Image:19px-Spell_Breaker.jpg‎ ]]<font color="RED">Ebolax 09:45, 30 January 2009 (EST)

How did this ever work? IV won't kill alone and if your spike fails you have 30s recharge. What am I missing?
 * If you make sure you are really clean (and you don't face a team with ward against harm) you actually get pretty easy kills. You can also spike every 5 seconds - if you want too - so at least 1 every 3 spikes is going to get through. Brandnew 22:17, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Tease is gone. Unarchive? :D <font color="Red">Ben <font color ="Cyan">..Squint  13:59, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Would need to be updated because of the nerfs (or change) to Aegis and a lot of the Rit skills. -- <span style="font-family:mistral, cursive;">Frosty  <span style="font-family:mistral, cursive;">Mc Admin  14:05, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah.

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i did the last IV spike, figured i might take a shot at this time too. changed the caller for the first time in a while.

my idea. iv with snares, waaaaa? thoughts? Gringo 16:30, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Why not SB instead of shielding hands or somit? Also, i figured most the communing spirits suck since they got nerfed. Rawrawr Dinosaur 16:32, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * shielding was my optional spot, i just threw it in there. the rits need more spirits for spells, and having channeling spirits its useless so i figured id make it communing. Gringo 16:36, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * why not take bsong over like displacement then? Since union/displace/shelter last about 3 secs each. Bsongs at least gonna power spirits for low spec. Rawrawr Dinosaur 16:37, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * its sexy for stopping rspike, and shelter holds up a while because its only over 10% damage. and pain can power spirits when combined with the others i think. Gringo 16:41, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Shadowsong motherfucker. -- <span style="font-family:mistral, cursive;">Frosty  <span style="font-family:mistral, cursive;">Mc Admin  16:53, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

No one runs iv spike anymore
=\--TahiriVeila 17:59, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * and no one runs defy pain wars. Gringo 18:02, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Not true ;o -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 18:13, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

ROLLBACK
dang, we all got beat with /roll 100 ratings <font color="Gray">The <font color="Blue">Wojo 18:15, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * ye jake claims that aegis nerf killed this, despite teams running rit spike, SoTS spike, SF spike, and many other caster spikes without aegis. but hes in dent so we need to listen to him! dropping one of these healers for another n/p would do a whole lot of good apparantly. Gringo 18:18, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * SoTS runs way more damage than this and it's still bad which is why borat ran it for about a weak before he stopped. I'm not gonna satisfy your desire for a rage war saint. Put this back in archive b/c i'm not gonna let you ram this horseshit through =\ Going out for the night, i'll be back on tommorrow to remove your revotes <3 --TahiriVeila 18:22, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * we stopped running it because he got bored and went on to nightmare spike. he never runs builds because theyre good, he plays for fun, you should know that :o bad argument is bad. Gringo 18:23, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * SoTS has less damage its just armor ignoring. If you actually stayed on msn after ur massive rant you'd realise it was complete bullshit, only shitters ran 8 necros and you should know that if you played back when it was big, all the proper teams played w/ an SB monk with shell shock. Cold shields dont work when you have sundering weapon, and saying "omg interrupt lolol" doesnt work for a 6 second recharge spike btw. Rawrawr Dinosaur 18:38, October 8, 2009 (UTC)