Archive talk:E/Mo Blinding Surge Warder

Discussion
If anything's broken, fix please. &mdash; Rapta   (talk|contribs) 06:28, 9 August 2007 (CEST)


 * Is this necessary? The other b-surge already covers all of this in variants. Tycn 09:24, 9 August 2007 (CEST)


 * The problem is that no one ever really runs that bar. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 16:44, 9 August 2007 (CEST)
 * I agree with Tycn. The other Bsurge build page clearly lists this as a variant. -Kaelor 17:32, 9 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Wth...WaM sucks in comparison to WaF. Change please. Readem (talk *pvxcontribs ) 20:51, 9 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Tell that to almost every top 100 guild running balanced. WaM is universal - WaF is rare.  This build is fine.  Gale -> Convert or Res -> Convert are probably the most common variants at the moment.  I Noob I 21:40, 9 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Knew I forgot about something. Convert is definately worth mentioning. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 21:42, 9 August 2007 (CEST)

RA Flag?
Awful for RA, create a RA specific variant instead.. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zerak-Tul (contribs) 17:48, 28 October 2007.


 * You'll find it, if you look hard enough. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 23:00, 28 October 2007 (CET)

TA Tag? Pretty damn good in a spike team, gale annoys and u can take orb for spike dmg. --Luuck 11:12, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

PW:WELL
Doesn't violate PW:WELL. Everyone runs Lighting Bolt now anyways. &mdash; Rapta   (talk|contribs) 00:17, 30 November 2007 (CET)
 * Orb is still ran as much, AR is where its at tbh - Rawrawr  00:30, 30 November 2007 (CET)
 * "Everyone" can run bolt as much as they want, the guy's gonna be KD'd by shock on a spike anyway and you'll never get the bonus damage. Both skills are spike assist, and bolt fails more than orb at the job. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 11:32, 30 November 2007 (CET)
 * They're not "always KD'ed on spike". Lightning Bolt is run because of its superior casting time along with a consistent recharge and a possible extra packet of bonus damage. Lightning Orb is simply D-Shot. If the target is KD'ed, if the small packet doesn't kill them, then chances are that the larger packet of damage from Orb won't either (they're not dead, so chances are that they're protted anyways). No ele wants to spent 15 energy and 2 seconds on a skill that will get interrupted anyways. Furthermore, it compliments the recent increase in WAM's energy cost. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 18:18, 30 November 2007 (CET)
 * I like mudkipz too. nah, lightning bolt might be better.[[Image:Dark0805sig2.PNG]] 19:43, 30 November 2007 (CET)
 * To each his own, tbh. looking at the merits of either, its up in the air.[[Image:Dark0805sig2.PNG]] 19:47, 30 November 2007 (CET)

deja vu
wait isn't there another one right there? oh wait one has a ward where one has an optional slot! huh! silly me! Brian 15:11, 1 December 2007 (CET)
 * Yeah, silly you. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 22:51, 1 December 2007 (CET)

Archive
Does NOT need to be archived. The ward is only 10 more seconds (easily counterable) and GoLE wasnt nerfed at all.←Crossfire Is Buff 19:17, 6 March 2008 (EST)
 * You couldn't be more wrong. Ward was nerfed in the sense that you can't fake-cast anything (in this case, Air Attunement comes up, along with every other skill you have). 10 more seconds is a lot. The argument is whether this will affect this build's ability in the future.
 * Also, as I've told User:Guild of Deals on my talk page, stop reading these tags as "this will be archived", but rather "this might need fixing". Don't jump to conclusions. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 19:21, 6 March 2008 (EST)
 * Run ward against foes. Too bad for the glyph nerf, but you can't do shit about it. You'd still take glyph on an ele like this, and you just won't be canceling. Glyph is still 25 energy every 30 seconds, which is much. Also, I'm suggesting taking Lightning Orb for superior spike power(cracked armor iz gud). —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  05:20, 8 March 2008 (EST)
 * Also, possibly, this would see more use now due to condi-pressure being common again. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 13:13, 8 March 2008 (EST)

Doesn't need to be archived, needs to be deleted. Totally useless page when we already have the general B-Surge page around and almost nobody runs this specific build variant. Zuranthium 18:10, 20 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Ummm, yeah people, stop trying to un-delete. Nobody runs this. The other B-surge page is all we need. Zuranthium 02:34, 2 April 2008 (EDT)