Archive talk:W/E "Charge!" Sword

Is this build really vetted without a cancel stance for Frenzy? Sprint and Hex Breaker are in variants, but shock or heal sig are much less essential. Perhaps sprint or hex breaker should be placed in the main bar instead of Heal Sig or Shock, with whatever it is decided it should replace placed in variants, since frenzy without a cancel is suicide. --Edru viransu 21:23, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

I'm gonna archive it. - Skakid9090 16:41, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

I don't think it really needs to be archived. Putting sprint(final thrust + rush = die) somewhere to cancel frenzy would make it fine. It's still an effective build. It's not popular in the current meta, but it's still very strong(especially in physical heavy teams, which unfortunately aren't very popular in the current meta). I really think this shouldn't be archived. --Edru viransu 21:28, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
 * What should be subbed for a cancel then? - Skakid9090 22:45, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
 * I'm of the opinion that shock should be replaced with Sprint(or possibly Hex Breaker) and moved to variants. --Edru viransu 22:47, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

I dropped Shock for Sprint to cancel frenzy and moved. I also removed barbarous slice from variants. Does anyone disagree with either of my changes? --Edru viransu 12:39, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

Nah, its archived for a reason :). Readem (talk *pvxcontribs ) 18:53, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

Several reasons, actually, one of which was lack of cancel for frenzy... --Edru viransu 19:22, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

It was mainly archived because it sucked. Readem (talk *pvxcontribs ) 19:34, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

This build does, but charge swords in general are far from sucking, although they aren't very useful in a meta in which 3 melee is extremely uncommon. --Edru viransu 19:45, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

Unarchive?
It's apparently being used again. I have the feeling that it's just guys fucking around, but I could be wrong. Karate  Jesus  18:55, 26 February 2010

Here's what I propose:

Run something like 11-11-8 or 11-10-10 on the atts depending on how long you want DS and Charge to last.

Defensive stance would basically just be your "Oh shit" button to cancel-stance and add a little adren/defense. You'd Frenzy+Charge to pressure the shit out of guys, etc. I'm not sure about Final, though. Maybe Sun&Moon should be in that slot. Karate  Jesus  08:38, 27 February 2010
 * Actually, you could probably use Shock instead of bull's. It should have plenty of energy. Karate [[File:KJ for sig.png]] Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">08:40, 27 February 2010
 * Holy fuck that's sexy. [[Image:Zyke-Sig.png]] 08:40, February 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Shield Stance Might also work (7/8+1 str). [[Image:Zyke-Sig.png]] 08:42, February 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * It would, but Defensive stance gives you adren when it ends for every melee skill you have.....with 3-4 depending on how you spec. <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">08:45, 27 February 2010
 * Actually, the spec would need to be 12+1+1 (tact), 10+1 (sword), 8+1 (strength) in order to get the full use out of charge and defensive stance. You'd still get +60 damage on Final if you hit below 50%. Or you could just run 12-12-3 if not having much damage from bull's doesn't matter to people. Idk, I'm tired. <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">08:56, 27 February 2010
 * I guess shield stance or defensive stance depending on what's meta. Why are you talking to me about this anyways? I suck at GW. [[Image:Zyke-Sig.png]] 09:14, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Thrill of Victory
Is it worth running on this since you have 14 tactics? PVX-Zuko 11:17, February 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * I haven't seen anyone running it, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't work. I just don't know where it'd fit. <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">19:02, 27 February 2010
 * Over Final Thrust. Not to mention - this would probably be better as an axe bar. ···  Danny So Cute    20:16, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It's possible, but it's more of a pressure/split build. At least, that's how it's being used. <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">21:12, 27 February 2010