Archive talk:N/Mo 27hp Sacrifice Necro Farmer

Hope you guys enjoy this build, any suggestion and ideas welcome RockmanXX 16:30, 29 July 2007 (CEST)

Really nice idea with Aura of the Lich. Blood of the Master and Dark Pact are bad choices for sacrifice, though. Blood of the Agressor and Touch of Agony/Wallow's Bite are better options, although if you wanted to stay in Prophesies, touch of agony and dark pact are the best options. || Ressmonkey 18:19, 29 July 2007 (CEST)

Hm...I chose Blood of the master and dark pact is because they have lesser recharge time. But seems you are also right, Blood of the Agressor and Touch of Agony/Wallloww's bite is working well as well.in that case, since they have more recharge time, to speed up the progress to deal damage to area foes, better add one more saceifice skill so it can keep you non stop attacking RockmanXX 23:22, 29 July 2007 (CEST)

Nice, this is brilliant! Another wonderful use for Aura of the Lich like my Archive:N/D Heir to the Master. Why didnt i think of that, a 55 + Aura of the Lich. nice work! i run this frequently. You're indestructible virtually, even more durable than a normal 55. i like it, 2 thumbs up from me! Dark Samus 04:57, 30 July 2007 (CEST)

this is good, but you have better spells that sacrifice, like wallow bite and the cousin spell. that'd raise your DPS a bit. and this build suffers from AoE scatter --Morten 08:42, 30 July 2007 (CEST)

Nice one, but:
 * You cannot farm UW and FoW
 * If you want to go there, you mustn't go alone
 * If you go in team, you don't need solo build.

Do you see the problem? Gelei 14:11, 30 July 2007 (CEST)

this build is incredibly old, created way back before AoE updates. now, if you try to use this build ANYWHERE in Hard Mode, 55 SS > it. this build, in all honesty, kills pretty much 1 thing at a time because of the massive scatter it causes. sorry, but for now you gotta stick with 55 SS. 76.19.223.231 16:23, 30 July 2007 (CEST)
 * i did a massive cleanup of all spelling and grammar errors in the article. 76.19.223.231 17:58, 30 July 2007 (CEST)

THX!!! (and sorry about that lol) RockmanXX 19:09, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

no....no no no..... good idea tho. was a good thought.mizzouman 19:53, 30 July 2007 (CEST)

DARK AURA ignores protecive spirit. not cool. this build should be trashed dont work as it should. horrible build.
 * um, no. Dark aur's "life loss" is actually reduced by Protective Spirit. i know it looks that way, but Prot spirit and dark aura work. on another note, thi build will work well on mobs of 3. and, gelei, i've done UW runs with a build much like this. in normal mode, however. 76.19.223.231 20:07, 30 July 2007 (CEST)
 * No, the life loss is not reduced, but aura of the lich does reduce it. This is why I suggested Blood of the Aggressor to steal health to offset the loss of health due to Dark Aura. || Ressmonkey 15:40, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

hm.. thx for the advise. Actually about the life loss, i try to do some test with it but...for some reason, the dark aura damage me only 2. i think 2 is not that much maybe?RockmanXX 19:05, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

you'll have to try it out for yourself, but i've run this build many times before. the life loss of DARK AURA is reduced by protective spirit. feel free to read the Wiki page that says the life loss is actually damage. 76.19.223.231 20:01, 31 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Don't have to; just read the skill description carefully. Prot spirit specifically says that "... cannot lose more than 10% max health..." (emphasis added). Add this with the stacking damage reduction of AotL and you've got ridiculously low sacrifice. -Kaelor 07:29, 1 August 2007 (CEST)
 * My bad. || Ressmonkey 13:14, 2 August 2007 (CEST)

hmmm nice...a aoe 55 necro, not bad lol this is really good at farming ANY melee mobs and even some warrior bosses too.(a combination of bot with this build would be perfect, haha =))

This is a tricky build, since of Lich and Prot Spirit goes off you're dead and the energy management can be a problem(spamming 5e skills ate up my +2 regen energy bar pretty fast) and you have to keep up: Dark Aura(10e), Prot Spirit(10e), Healing Breeze(10e) and finally Aura of the Lich(10e). That's 40 energy total if you're forced to activate them all simultaneously. And the scatter hurts too. But it does make farming mobs alot easier if not faster, but this build really does take you a few time to get it right. Also, a +15energy offhand(in place of the grim cresta) does comes in handly when you need to activate several enchantment spell all at once. This build is better than the 55, it kills faster but it requires ALOT of attention during the farm, one misclick could be game over(if you're farming in missions).Sandtrap
 * it's not that bad on energy, that's why you have Essence Bond and Balthazar's Spirit. 2e per hit is enough to manage your energy just fine. and if we used a +15 energy offhand, we'd lose the main advantage of this build, the 27 max hp. and pretty much any 55 farm requires a lot of attention. one loss of prot spirit in ANY 55 build and it's gg. Empty Orchestra 14:25, 3 August 2007 (CEST)
 * EDIT for stupidity: we don't have Essence Bond in the main build, which i highly suggest. here's a recommendation: take out mending for it. HB's regen is DEFINITELY enough to manage with only 27hp (the old aotl 55 used blood renewal alone for healing) and, for damage, do this: atts are 13 blood(hat + sup rune), 12 death (sup rune), 9 heal, 9 prot. instead of mending, use essence bond. instead of dark pact + BotM, use wallow's bite + touch of agony. you'll do even more damage and be able to maintain energy better. just my 2 cents. Empty Orchestra 14:44, 3 August 2007 (CEST)


 * ya...i did say that in Variants lol RockmanXX 16:42, 3 August 2007 (CEST)

This build should be intresting to try out once we can replace Balt spirit with Masochism.... :D - Ichimaru, 09:37, 16 August 2007 (CET)

STUPID!!!
'''This build is stupid, since health lost from dark aura is considered life loss, and not damage, and will NOT be reduced by Protective Spirit! This build brings the word "STUPID" to a new level!!! Shame on you! Just terrible! GRRR!!! This build should be burned!!! BURNED!!!' &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' 87.49.100.176 (contribs) 23:27, 8 August 2007 (CEST).


 * (It should be noted that this user has never tried this build before, and is basing this discussion on guesses and false assumptions.) &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.248.97.110 (contribs) 15:09, 16 August 2007 (CEST).


 * TRY BEFORE SAY ANYTHING PLZ..if u havent try before and make comments, you are the stupid one. It DOES reduce by protective spirt. RockmanXX 23:37, 8 August 2007 (CEST)


 * Considored it does work, the only burning going on will be from that flame. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.19.4.102 (contribs) 12:05, 9 August 2007 (CEST).

Please have a look at PvX:NPA and PvX:SIGN. –&thinsp;H HHIPPO  &thinsp;&lsaquo;sysop &rsaquo; 12:30, 9 August 2007 (CEST)
 * ...and also at PvX:ARCHIVE: do not edit other people's posts. Any discussion is pointless if you can't see who wrote what. –&thinsp;H HHIPPO  &thinsp;&lsaquo;sysop &rsaquo; 15:44, 16 August 2007 (CEST)

This build works. I use a similar build using Wallow's bite and touch of agony instead of blood of the master and dark pact, Aura of the Lich will reduce Dark Aura.75.93.36.220 16:05, 2 January 2008 (EST)

when the person above wrote that, it WAS reduced. these days, it's not. they finally fixed dark aura. so i archived the build because ... yeah. you pretty much die the second you cast anything.--Reason.decrystallized 23:24, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

Lighty
taking out the dark pact for light of deldimor works just fine just its a little slower but it kills everything at the same time so there isn't one thats is trying to nail u down 216.45.99.12 02:05, 4 November 2007 (CET)

this build would be great if enemies wouldn't run away as hell. even if u try to kill only one enemy, he still runs away... do they scatter if u do not use sac skills so fast, or is it the same? Plohek 09:07, 28 February 2008 (EST)

It is of no use taking BotM, there are a lot of skills which require a sacrifise of health with a lot more benifit.86.86.36.63 10:33, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

nerf
the nerfed dark aura... so u lose 21 hp

Loved it, tried it, didn't work
It's a great idea, it would be awesome if it worked, but due to recent changes, dark aura is now "health loss" instead of damage and it goes around prot spirit AND aura of the lich I thought it would be great and I'd get rich, so i tried it out... unfortunately, didn't work. I tried different orders of casting the enchantments too, and that didn't seem to change anything Starshadow 11:00, 22 July 2008 (EDT)
 * it was changed, yeah ... not that great to begin with, as dark aura causes scatter, though.--Reason.decrystallized 23:24, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

Obsolete Build
This build is now Obsolete due to the recent updates for several skills, Aura of The Lich in particular. Work must be done to rethink the basis of this build.
 * well that's why it's archived --[[Image:Tai_Sig.png]] 17:48, 9 January 2009