Archive talk:R/Mo TA Empathic Ranger

Win? 21:56, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
 * I mean, at least its other eh?  21:56, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

..................... – Ichigo 724  21:57, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

Might be sexier if you take 1 out of wilderness add it to marks and then take Debilitating Shot instead of Pin Down; Sloth Hunters for spike support. Decent TA build. iunno.--Underwood 22:00, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Hmm. Maybe.  22:01, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Magebane kicks it in the face. – Ichigo 724 [[Image:Ichigo-signature.jpg]] 22:02, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
 * But then you can run two rangers. Or something.  22:03, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Meh, there are still better options. --[[Image:Dervsig.png]]Angelus (stalk |contribs ) 22:03, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Thus, Other.  22:04, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Not even other worthy tbh --[[Image:Dervsig.png]]Angelus (stalk |contribs ) 22:15, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
 * But... But... I got 2 RA wins with it!  22:26, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Nevermind my above comment then. Will vote great when you put into testing then. IT PWNS RA!!! --[[Image:Dervsig.png]]Angelus (stalk |contribs ) 00:04, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Basic Rangers with Purge Signet or Remove Hex are better. Huynh Sanity 23:54, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
 * ^ -- Frosty [[Image:SnowmanF.jpg|19px]] 02:25, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Hammer + ED ranger + This = win TA MrBArtel 02:29, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Actually guys, I haven't TA'd seriously in a little while, but I've heard this is pretty meta, especially due to the fact that every other team is hexgay. - Misery  Is  Friendly  [[image:Misery Dog obaby.gif|19px]] 05:10, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Thanks for finishing it up for me Underwood.  06:21, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I would rather run Magebane and interrupt all the gay hexes rather then being a fag and removing them. -- Frosty [[Image:SnowmanF.jpg|19px]] 06:22, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
 * You're not gonna be able to get everything...  06:27, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Run triple interrupt. -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 06:33, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Dual ranger triple interrupt imo. - Misery  Is  Friendly  [[image:Misery Dog obaby.gif|19px]] 06:34, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I usually run this or Mbane whit Bartel in TA:) But still i do prefer the Mbane because its so much easier to interrupt when i need to help allies:P Anyways needs Purge tbh and as said above using M.bane whit purge and Remove hex coupled whit FF necro is mush better :D Massive  [[Image:Image-Massive Sig.jpg|19px]] 08:57, 15 September 2008 (EDT)

For the people QQing about Magebane being better, this is good. Of course you aren't going to run this when not expecting to face hexes, but ER is an incredible skill then, and rangers are one of the best options for taking it. Dropping Magebane for Savage is a pretty minor loss of effectiveness in return for stomping hexway. -- Piplup  .jpg  09:00, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Triple Interrupt is cooler, but this is viable indeeeeeeed. -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 09:02, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Why on earth do you want triple interupt; except for letting them fake 3 times? —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  12:33, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

Empathetic Removal
It's Not D-Shot. It cant be thrown onto any random build and make it better. You are taking out a vast majority of ranger elites or other elites that are excellent in one way or another and replacing them with a skill that monks are capable of handling in the first place. or need I add a re-direction to builds that have been deleted for this exact reason?--66.192.104.10 12:47, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Do tell. And if Monks can handle it all, then why the heck have support healers?  15:35, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Empathic Removal is terrible on a monk tbh. This means than instead of taking a gimped monk or a good monk with a backup gimped monk you can take a good monk AND pew pew. - Misery  Is  Friendly  [[image:Misery Dog obaby.gif|19px]] 15:59, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Who said make the monk take Empe...?-- Ikimono The Ursan Monk [[Image:Paragon-icon-small.png]] 07:16, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * "replacing them with a skill that monks are capable of handling in the first place", stop trolling Ikimono, you're bad at it. - Misery  Is  Friendly  [[image:Misery Dog obaby.gif|19px]] 07:22, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Or you can use a good monk build and a Ritualist.--72.189.85.47 19:36, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
 * ^loleuro. - Misery  Is  Friendly  [[image:Misery Dog obaby.gif|19px]] 09:08, 16 September 2008 (EDT)

Lightning reflexes on mainbar. Don't need purge. --Readem 22:50, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Ritualists don't have much to offer in TA anymore-- Get Your Wood On  Discuss  23:05, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Readem why would you ever use Lightning Reflex instead of Purge? I know you will say bla they will just camp you etc but Removing all hexes and shit before a spikke is quite usefull Massive  [[Image:Panic_Special.png‎|25px]] 09:06, 16 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Dshot owns. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  08:34, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

Purge and remove hex should be enough, run magebane. The disable time and being unblockable(lolguardian) is alot more important then a medicore hex remover, as they would cover it anyway in hexgays(yes, monks can see that and precast, but ranger's cant as you'd also throw interupts on it). —ǘŋ Ɛxɩsƫ  06:14, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * <3 someone understands what I was saying earlier -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 06:18, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Why would you take purge with Empathetic anyway...it seems to me that that should be enough. Or at least just do what was said earlier and just take remove hex. Faster Recharge + Faster Cast. :\ Could work similarly well.-- Ikimono The Ursan Monk [[Image:Paragon-icon-small.png]] 07:15, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I forgot about the arcane thievery meta, so nvm. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  05:42, 19 September 2008 (EDT)
 * <3 collin.Saint 00:26, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

The New Trend
Take a good build and put some stupid pussy 'support' skill on it. Great. Why is the meta so pussy. GET 8 WARRIORS AND FUCKING RIP THE ENEMIES TO CHUNKS. Thats the way. Noobs 15:20, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
 * ...great observation... i can see you're very awesome... the meta is a little weak, but since u dont sign, shows how manly u are imo Driggy 01:00, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Hexes. --71.229.253.172 01:05, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Are meta? Is that what you're trying to say, random IP address? Karate Jesus 01:06, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Are why the meta is so pussy, yes. Also, User:71.229. --71.229.253.172 01:08, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Eh...I don't see what's so pussyish about shutting down enemies. If people are still stupid enough to try to run 3 frontliners and a monk, then let then get raped. Karate Jesus 01:10, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
 * They're passive and take no skill to use. --71.229.253.172 01:22, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I still fail to see your point. Aren't you only providing more reason for hexes to be meta? Karate Jesus 01:23, 18 September 2008 (EDT)

--71.229.253.172 01:27, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
 * The fact that it's easy is why it's meta. That's all I'm saying. Karate Jesus 01:28, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
 * No, you were saying that you didn't understand what's so pussyish about hexes and didn't see why skill-less passive shit is pussyish. So, the facepalm. --71.229.253.172 01:33, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Easy and skill-less are two different things. Shock axe is easy, but you have to have some decent amount of skill to use it effectively. Hexes are easy, but if you know what you're doing, you can spread those hexes well and shut-down several enemies. Still, the point is made: Meta tends to be what's easiest and the most effective because honestly, more people will do it if it's easy and effective. Call it pussyish if you want, but meta is meta. Karate Jesus 13:29, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
 * It's easy to spam buttons. You can't call anything except me/e kappaspiker easy. It's all how about you time and use your skills, and position yourself. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  12:35, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

^the above made me cry. --Dark0805 ( Rant /Contributions ) 14:49, 18 September 2008 (EDT)

Bad version. needs LR on mainbar. Purge is shit when not on a monk in TA. When I play balanced, we use Earthshaker, ED Ranger, and Inspired WoD. That of course, requires an inordinate amount of skill to use well :/. --Readem 17:04, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
 * cause you're fucking pro--75.94.77.148 02:10, 19 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I am. Many say that about my love making skills as well. --Readem 03:08, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

I told u adding empathic removal to any random midliner would be the new trend. Psychiatric Consultant  21:26, 19 September 2008 (EDT)
 * yeh, i've been outa TA for a while so idk, but it looks decent for what it's supposed to do i guess. Also, random ip dude, u fail hard lol... Driggy 00:23, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * no u--75.94.77.148 02:46, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
 * fail-- Shadow [[Image:Relyk Sig.gif]] 16:42, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

71.229.253.172 fucking fails. 68.51.83.92 00:52, 22 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I wonder how many times the word "fail" has been used on this page...or for that matter, general assholery that has nothing to do with the build. Karate Jesus 11:10, 22 September 2008 (EDT)
 * 4 times, 5 if you include your contribution. 68.51.83.92 11:15, 22 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Haha, thanks for the count, I guess. Karate Jesus 12:59, 22 September 2008 (EDT)
 * meh, w/e blame me i guess... grats on "great" rating Driggy 01:08, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

hey its random ip dood again... here to say that emphatic still sucks. "Hey i got an idea. Lets take a good build (as if rangers are good anyway...) and throw some fucking useless elite on it that makes no sense.  IT ISNT EVEN REDUCED BY EXPERTISE.  ITS SO RANDOM.  where is that asshole with that template that says your build lacks focus.  Im pretty sure if i ever saw someone run this i would fucking cast Summon Greater Warrior and get a fucking army of 25+ warriors to roll this stupid asshole.  Also this build sucks for 1v1 cuz you cant cast that shitty ass elite on yourself to get some healz.  I could RAPE this with fucking SIlverwig Slash and Standing Slash any day!  O and if it blokcs ill just have my 25+ warriors cast Warriors Cunning to say GG YOU NOOB 21:14, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Ow, my -brain-...Draconis 02:21, 30 September 2008 (EDT)
 * lol you mentioned 1v1. And that rangers are bad. Ofc 25+ warriors would win. Against ANYTHING. And Silverwing/Standing are baed. And Warrior's Cunning is baed.  06:34, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

Purge Signet
Leave as optional? Unless its really necessary...-- Shadow 11:35, 25 September 2008 (EDT)

Purge signet is ... overkill. Empathic is also overkill, but it can be good since the usual ranger build is good. Replace with magebane once you start to manage the hexes, or cripshot, or anything you find really useful. Stoella 12:38, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Empathic is good if your monk has like a 10hex stack on them, which means it'd be better for HA/GvG maybe. In TA i don't see something like that happening (idk if it happens or not, i don't TA a lot) Driggy 16:17, 2 October 2008 (EDT)
 * 9 out of 10 teams in TA is hexway. Brandnew.  16:19, 2 October 2008 (EDT)
 * I'd suppose you mean purge, driggy. And monks do have 10 hex stacks at them in TA too.  —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  16:36, 4 October 2008 (EDT)

This build is TA meta
Go on, do the meta-revoting-scramble. 5-5-5 this shit. --71.229 16:21, 2 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Oops, I see all the morons people who were saying this was bad never even voted on it. --71.229 16:23, 2 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Genius-- Shadow [[Image:Relyk Sig.gif]] 18:04, 4 October 2008 (EDT)
 * lol'd pretty hard at the discussion above ... This is a good support build while still pressuring teh opposing team, hexmeta says bye <font color="#009933">Close[[Image:CloseImpactSW.jpg|19px]]Impact<font color="#003300"> Too Muh Bruh  16:43, 10 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Tbh run a decent ranger > this.. Bring Remove hex and just interrupt. Not that much hex fags going around exepet a single necro, and some of the usuall lameway + bad hex stuff newbs. Massive  [[Image:Image-Massive Sig.jpg|19px]] 18:07, 23 January 2009 (EST)
 * lolinterrupted your hex, now i don't have to remove it, but tbh this is actually decent in hexway meta if your monk is not the best and you want long matches<font color="Teal">-WaffleZ LOL- 19:12, 23 January 2009 (EST)

Why is this still in "Great"?
I don't see it used in 4v4... [ever]. --BlazingBurdy 14:21, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It still functions perfectly well as a anti-hexway 4v4 ranger. Just not in the meta. -- <span style="font-family:mistral, cursive;">Frosty  <span style="font-family:mistral, cursive;">Mc Admin  16:05, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Urite. It's the green pea soup that no one ever likes to eat. That, and jic the ranger f's up at rupting, he/she can correct themselves like "lolwupz!" *uses [Em]pathetic Removal cuz suxorz @ rupting pew pew*. --BlazingBurdy 14:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I never see it used either. Magebane is better imo because you can stop them from casting the hexes that you would be needing to use empathetic for. And stopping anything else that fits your fancy.--<font color ="Blue">Ikimono <font color ="Brown"> "...And my axe!" [[Image:Monk-Paragon-icon.png]] 00:06, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Note
The note of "Works well with 2 rangers,change apply on one to Barbed Arrows. " is pointless as this is tagged for RA only and in RA u can't choose teams--88.17.203.248 17:21, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * its a wiki, fix it. Gringo 17:31, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * You see, you should be syncing with it ;o -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 17:36, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * I thought syncing was nerfed, or sumthing. <font color="Deepred"> No <font color="Black"> vii 20:08, November 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * I sync'd with Iffy today. At first she was BA and I was monk, the she was monk and I was BB, then she rerolled Coward axe and we were very brave! -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 20:10, November 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * Syncing is nerfed ;o (now it just takes people from other language districts to make it harder) -- -Chaos- (talk) -- 20:10, November 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * I synced with a few of my buddies the day after the "nerf" like 5 times in a row perfectly.--<font color ="Blue">Ikimono <font color ="Brown"> "...And my axe!" [[Image:Monk-Paragon-icon.png]] 00:07, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * My first comment is...syncing is for faggots. Second comment.... this build is totally awesome in RA now since every team has a mesmer and the meta is 1-2-3-4-5-6 hex stacking with IoP in there somewhere.<font color="green" size="2px">Ajsnuker 22:38, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * Syncing is very fun :3 <font color="DarkGreen"> ~  <font color="DarkGreen">Short <font color="DarkGreen"> ~  22:43, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

lol
Ok I fail at this game but 2 interrupts, emphatic removal and purge signet? Shouldn't you be using your rupts better?
 * This was primarily a TA build to counter hexfags that covered all their shit with pious concentration or mantra of resolve. Probably not worth the elite in RA. Life   Guardian  21:18, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * its fantastic in RA, it carries monks way better then shitty rit builds people post. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk &bull; contribs) (UTC). 21:39, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Update/Archive
is this used anywhere at all?-- Relyk 11:09, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Doesn't need to be used to be good :D. [[Image:AsuraSignature.jpg|15px]] Anvil God  zzz... 19:50, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It only ever excelled in TA. During a couple of the hex metas it saw a little use in GvG but not a ton. It's not used anywhere nowadays--TahiriVeila 19:59, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Still a good bar though 82.73.104.149 22:10, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Still useful in RA. Cripshot isn't as useful in arenas as GvG, so that mostly leaves Burning Arrow, Empathic, and maybe Magebane as the more viable RA elites. I haven't played RA in months, but when I was playing then the hex meta was in full force, so Empathic was quite useful and I ran it with success several times (which means next to nothing, I know). I'm voting to keep it, but it's not that big of a deal overall. -- Jai . -  04:08, June 4 2011 (UTC)
 * maybe magebane? magebane >>>>> everything in arena's. -- Brandnew. 05:47, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Mass rating change
Since Miharo pointed out that this build exists and everyone voted 3, this should be deleted, but it shares the votes with the old wikia right? <font color="DarkGreen">Chonsy <font color="DarkGreen">Rulez  15:40, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Archive probably. It was used to some extent in TA, since TA removal, never. <font color="Black">Miharo 15:49, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Shadow had the bright idea to add "RA" to the start of the name which he shouldn't have done. Once TA was deleted this build should have been archived. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 15:58, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, never should have been kept in the first place, but it's hard to know if some builds are going to pick up or not. <font color="Black">Miharo 16:01, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! <font color="Black">Miharo 16:04, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

The Trash Legion [WELL] has been created! Lets trash old stuff, yay! <font color="DarkGreen">Chonsy <font color="DarkGreen">Rulez  17:03, 14 April 2012 (UTC)