User talk:Frostels/Something Different

Feel free to post ideas, im just bored out of my mind with no work... will make some builds based on it later some time... maybe. Frostels 19:53, 26 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Spiteful Spirit in PvP? rly? Illoyon 20:29, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * tease and roj would see use if they weren't removed?-- Relyk 00:27, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Probably not Ray but I wanted to remove something from smiting D: Tease probably would in HA cause lol dual AoE rupts. Frostels 09:39, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Mr. Vincent's Idears
HA:

As long as you have Mind Burn, fire eles will always be alive. D: It's like a more cost efficient Rodgort's. Also, was unsure to take WoF or Empathic Removal on the Rit. Also also, I'm weary of putting boon signet for prot. Maybe Empathic instead. Vincent Evan [Air Henchman]   20:51, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Prep Shot's a pretty cool guy. jī·gō·dǔ -  22:14, 26 Jun 2012 (UTC)

For HA Balanced I would take dual ele (pretty much balanced), Forceful Blow Frenzy war, WS Derv, MoM Ele with snares/water/blind/ca, mind burn ele with /p, Enchanter's Condundrum/Shatter Delusions Mes for spiking (dom mes ofc), IV N/Rt for Foul Feast (almost a must need), SoD Prot with draw /D and finally a glimmer heal monk with spotless soul! Having a bunch of mediocre elites is pretty fun. I will post full bars tmoz, with some other jazz too. Frostels 23:37, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Mr. Triss's Ideas
Can't believe you left that ones... HA: LOL SWAY. For healers energy boon ele resto, reaper's mark necro resto. Or maybe a rpike? Punishing shot + Soldier's Stance para ftw. Or maybe a paraspike with Soldier's Stance. Or LOL Starburst. Or Keystone. Or IV spike. Can't kill the spike meta bro. For heals in standard ways: Blessed Light + Shield of Deflection. Triss 12:52, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Only one EBoon is required, the other can go prism or something.-- GWPirate 关 13:33, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * D: I knew I forgot at least one elite, removed RaO because sway is boring. I left in Punishing because it's quite literally only ever used in R Spike, left in IV because IV spike is meh now. E Boon e/rt's would work, but E boon is an enchantment remember so wouldn't work too well with a sway. Frostels 13:37, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Remember it will only be used to just give 12 energy to each other and maintain huge health. Or just go with reaper's mark necros. BTW Me/Mo keystone bonders-spikers would be a meta. Triss 13:38, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Nvm. Rt/Me Energy Drain and gg. Triss 13:41, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Elites that I would remove
Warrior: Skull Crack - cause of A/W daggerspam sins used it. Coward: for same reason. Primal Rage cause wtf meta. Battle Rage and 100b: IWAY!

Ranger: Punishing shot, poison arrow - obviously would be a new meta with barbed arrows.

Monk: Blessed Light,Shield of Deflection, Glimmer of Light, Spell Breaker, Martyr, Empathic Removal. Maybe Word of Censure in GvG.

Necro: Cultist's Favor - obviously new order build with melees.Same with OotV - lol vamp spike. Ravenous Gaze - lol bloodspike. OoB would be seen on weapons rit or monks so on watchlist.

Mes: Keystone,Energy Drain,PD(lol PB baned and PD left?), VoR, Lyssa's aura - to stop hexways and wastrels spamers.Expel hexes could be seen on weapons rit so on watchlist. FD on banlist + Sh(i/a)tter Storm to kill spikes.

Rit: Reclaim essence on watchlist: remember that Rits have used it before ST update. And Wielder's Zeal : seen on the weapons build. Weapon on Fury too.

Para: Obviously Incoming in GvG. TPIY on sin spamers probably,but only on watchlist. Cautery signet lol new group RC. Now paragons are dead.

Derv: Arcane Zeal, EDA, AoM, AoD, WS,RS,VoS,VoS,GG. Gonna leave only Zealous Vow. Rest is too good compared to the would-be skills.

Ele: Mind Burn, Glimmering Mark - cause of GvG. Also Star Burst - was "new RtL" not that long time ago. Glyph of Renewal would be used on mesmers. Ward Against Harm cause lol eleball in HA. Now I killed eles.

Sin: Assault enchantments, palm strike( :O), shadow shroud, hidden catrops, shattering assault, siphon strength.

So,Try now. Triss 14:05, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * ... I removed most of the used/strong elites, you removed pretty much every elite that's even fundamentally useful... I mean Siphon Strength? Arcane Zeal? Avarar of Melandru (in it's current state)? Why on earth would you remove any of them on the basis that they are meta or good at all? If you was to remove any elites that's been used in top 200 gvg or been on obs in HA, then you may as well remove every elite in the game... Frostels 16:30, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Nope,we just want to go out from meta right? By meta I consider spike builds and it's counter and gimmicky phys builds like 5 sins + Order. So.. Arcane Zeal is like last-stand for Orders if CF is banned. Then lets take a look on ele spike meta. I invoke times the most effective counter was... Melandru. AoM was used against starbursters too,and you have to remember that Starburst's times was not so long ago. Then Siphon Stregnth,ok,maybe it is too much,but with banned most powerful elites from warrior and sin line I guess it would be too strong counter for physicals. Triss 17:23, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The idea wasn't to "kill" off entire categories of build, but just shave off the "top 10%" of elites. The idea was to leave elites that are sub par compared to the ones removed. I didn't do this with much structure, it was just to see what kind of builds/elites people/I would use. Frostels 17:38, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Kay then, took the idea wrong. Still nice idea though Triss 17:58, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Mr. Silent's Ideas
Uninstall Guild Wars and send your friend Muhammad Kebab to a kamikaze mission in the head quarter of Anet. Or, at least, snipe Izzy. Silen†  12:57, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Last time I made a suicide bomber joke, I got a testicle shoved up my anus.-- Relyk 00:07, 28 June 2012 (UTC)