Archive talk:D/E B-Surge Dervish

I personally don't use this build, but I saw Massacre running it and I think it's a good replacement for the EDA derv. &not;H4xx Master Gladius  10:06, 28 July 2008 (EDT)
 * looks workable  Frosty  No U!  10:07, 28 July 2008 (EDT)


 * Lol'd. Reminds me of an Arcane Zeal nuker I once made. But taht nuker just didn't work... This seems viable. --84.24.206.123 10:21, 28 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Can i ask what makes this better than a B-Surge elementalist?--Manbeast15 11:14, 28 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Survivability  Frosty  No U!  11:15, 28 July 2008 (EDT)
 * And e-management from mysticism--Golden [[image:Goldenstar.JPG|19px]]Star 11:16, 28 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Ability to manage energy even when attunement is ripped. (Mysticism.) Brandnew.  11:16, 28 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Attune shouldnt be ripped when u cover it with boon.--[[Image:Relyk Purifying Veil Sig.jpg|19px]]R ELYK   ʞlɐʇ ʎɯ  20:29, 28 July 2008 (EDT)
 * And SS shouldn't be removed when covered with PB but shit happens you know ;). Ravager  ofDreams

this buld owns. i play ele so this is useful for me cus i dont have to worry about beating up melee and i can focus onn dmg and snare Haglorio bastalk 14:10, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
 * This is designed for HB not player use.  Frosty  No U!  14:19, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

I think he means that if he has B-Surge dervish on his team (in HB) he isn't raped by melee and can focus on snaring and damage (he apparently uses water ele). --&not;H4xx Master Gladius  14:23, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Is there something wrong with a b-surge ELE?-- L  R  20:26, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

Mysticism and survivability. --&not;H4xx Master Gladius  07:28, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Relyk, this HB, everything is upside down remember?  Frosty  No U!  07:30, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
 * I thought Hag was talking about TA or something since melee means warriors to me.-- L  R  15:48, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

Do you realy need Mirage Cloak with 90% miss from blind? :O Shield of Force imo.. Kongtorp 16:04, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

Good point I'll add it. &not;H4xx Master Gladius  16:09, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
 * And maybe take air down to 11 ( still hitting 7 energy and 4sec blind) for longer Mystic Regen and stronger Vital boon? I don't know how energy management is with this. [[Image:Beta Rotting Flesh.jpg|17px]]Kongtorp 16:48, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

i meant sins when i said melee. but yeah, the only problem with this build is when up against teams that have no physical dmg it has no use.probably best used in tournaments when u might have an idea of what ur gonna go up against Haglorio bastalk 20:40, 30 July 2008 (EDT)


 * ya mirage cloak is needed even when they are blind. espailly when you are up against 2 rps. or because rp have antidode signet at 4 sec recharge its not that hard to remove blind. blocking is needed for high end hb and mirage cloak is nessacary for sho

This build made me lol, but it seems to work pretty good Drownz 22:33, 2 August 2008 (EDT)

Shock Arrow
Unless ur under Attunement, doesn't give any energy back now, would you say this is nerfed or is the energy still gud? -- Frosty  14:39, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
 * nerfed. CABOSE (LVPoW) "Hey chicka bum bum!" 20:19, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

Why the fuck is this archived
Theres a 2 energy difference, and the skill is still -energy for damage(casting time of 1 sec=energy return, +5 from skill). This build is fucking good no matter what, anyway. --Dark0805 ( Rant /Contributions ) 12:03, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I was talking to rawr and he said it isn't as good as it was now, maybe unarchive and vote wipe? -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 12:05, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Not a bad idea. I havent run this or done HB in a while so i may be overly supporting it, but seriously, theres no way this build should be archived. --Dark0805 ( Rant /<font color=#ff11aa>Contributions ) 12:12, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
 * i never said that lol o_0 Rawrawr Dinosaur 12:28, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I asked you on msn, you said it isn't as good because the bar is energy heavy _ -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 12:39, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I didnt mean it like that lol o0 Rawrawr Dinosaur 12:43, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
 * No one knows what you mean rawr :> -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 12:45, 18 September 2008 (EDT)