Archive talk:Me/Mo Holy Wrath Signet Mesmer

I have seen this build several times in RA and TA and figured I just throw it out. I just saw another article discussing this build in a. I think it's a fun and versatile build. Comments on the build/article? JoE554 06:25, 25 February 2008 (EST)

Actually, Keystone Signet would be at place here :O Rickyvantof 10:23, 25 February 2008 (EST)
 * You would loose your single unconditional KD. Also, Mantra of Inscriptions lowers the recharge of all signets. Therefore I think Keystone Signet would not fit very well into this build. Btw, I haven't carefully optimized attribute levels. So there probably is a better configuration which hits a good trade-off between FC, damage and recharge of signets. JoE554 10:34, 25 February 2008 (EST)

I changed the attributes to match those of Me/Mo SoJ Mesmer. Now the 3 seconds breakpoint of Signet of Distraction is reached (instead of 2 seconds before), signets recharge 7% faster but activate slower. JoE554 11:04, 25 February 2008 (EST)

how about adding retribution in their too 99% damage back ftw!
 * You can not support more than four enchantments because holy wrath drains all your energy. JoE554 04:41, 28 February 2008 (EST)


 * Needs Ether Signet to keep MoI up. --[[image:GoD Sig3.jpg|20px]] Guild of  Deals  18:52, 25 February 2008 (EST)
 * No, it doesn't. Please read the usage before posting. You can just switch to your high-energy set to renew MoI. JoE554 04:41, 28 February 2008 (EST)
 * To make you happy I included Ether Signet in Variants :-) JoE554 04:01, 3 March 2008 (EST)

Ewww, Holy Wrath. -Shen 20:25, 25 February 2008 (EST)
 * This doesn't seem very effective imo. The elite is decent, the interupt is nice in this bar, however: all that for holy wrath? Come on now.--[[Image:GatessMoebius Strike Icon.jpg|20px]]The Gates  Assassin  00:37, 26 February 2008 (EST)


 * Holy wrath is the best part. Each time a foe hits ANY of your teamates they take 40 holy damage (double for those retarded RA MMs)  Its a lot of damage in RA, and works best with a mnk on your team.  You see many -10 energys and the person attacking the monk has half health :D.  You cant judge by how a build works, because honestly i was going to 0-0-0 it until i tried it.[[image:Companionship.jpg‎|19px]]Cross xXx Fire  (contribs)   07:07, 26 February 2008 (EST)


 * Yeh, and how are you planing to use holy wrath again? You don't have any e-mangment skill at all, you can't also even use mantra of inscriptions. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  04:28, 27 February 2008 (EST)
 * Again, please read the usage part of the build. Should you need to renew MoI or Holy Wrath switch to your high-energy set. JoE554 04:41, 28 February 2008 (EST)

[build prof=Me/Mo name="Wrath of Signets" fast=10+1 inspiration=9+1+1 smiting=12 domination=5+1][Signet of Judgment][Bane Signet][Castigation Signet][Signet of Humility][Signet of Distraction][Mantra of Inscriptions][Holy Wrath][Resurrection Signet][/build] This is what I run. Honestly Very affective.Cross xXx Fire (contribs)   09:32, 26 February 2008 (EST)

This works. Bring high energy set to recast MoI. --Readem 04:49, 27 February 2008 (EST)

Its RA. Mstches usually dont last more than 80 secs (unless theres a noob runner)Cross xXx Fire (contribs)   06:53, 27 February 2008 (EST)

You must play in the American Districts :/. --Readem 15:23, 27 February 2008 (EST)

PvXJing please reconsider your vote since it is obviously based on false information. It is very simple to renew MoI and HW (see below). Also this build has a completely different approach than the Build:Me/Mo Smite Bonder, if that is the build you are referring to in your rating comment. And honestly I have no idea why you are comparing this build to a WoH monk or a monk bonder???? JoE554 05:02, 28 February 2008 (EST)

Renewing of MoI and Holy Wrath
Since there seems to be some confusion about the ability of this build to renew MoI and Holy Wrath during a match, here is how to do it: You have a high-energy set (wand+offhand) with +30 energy, -2 energy regeneration. Your energy should be zero all the time due to Holy Wrath. To renew MoI or Holy Wrath switch to your high-energy set (you have 30 energy now) and hit MoI or HW. Switch back. Done. You can also refer to the wiki description of Holy Wrath.JoE554 05:02, 28 February 2008 (EST)
 * Yeh, and then they attack 3 times under your high set. Boom, energy gone. Then you can't recast. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  05:03, 29 February 2008 (EST)
 * Please note that MoI is a stance and has no cast time. So no problem here. Holy Wrath takes 1.4s to recast, when under heavy pressure this could indeed be a bit of a problem. But most of the time you will be fine, since usually you don't face a team of 3 melee+one enchant removing guy. (Edit: I added a low energy set under equipment, which should give 10 more energy buffer.) JoE554 05:10, 29 February 2008 (EST)
 * There's still a delay for weapon swapping, and it's very easy for someone on your team to get hit 2-3 times within that 1 second. When that happens, all your enchants are stripped and you're left with no energy on your high set. You have to die to be able to do anything after. Moush 00:04, 1 March 2008 (EST)
 * No they are the best parts about the build. if u remove those skills, the build will be less efficent and therefore recieve trash ratings.[[image:Stoneflesh Aura.jpg‎|21px]]←Crossfire Is Buff  09:06, 1 March 2008 (EST)
 * Since Holy Wrath triggers on attack damage only it is not as likely as you might think. Try to knock down attacking melee before switching your set so that you are more on the safe side. JoE554 04:01, 3 March 2008 (EST)
 * Great idea, except you have 0 energy regen(so, when you swap back down after renewing MoI, you're stuck at -10e(and thus only 37e in your high set) in that set permanently) and no e-management, so you have a total of 47 energy that you can use during the entire fight for MoI and HW renewal. &mdash; Edru / QQ  19:23, 3 March 2008 (EST)
 * Also, if attacks bring your energy to 0 while on your +30/-2 set, you just lost 2 of your holy wrath's. &mdash; Edru / QQ  19:24, 3 March 2008 (EST)
 * Dont bring a +30/-2 energy set for high energy. Have a shield and -5e weapon low set, and a +5e weapon and normal focus high set.  And if you wanted to then your +30/-2 super high set for when you are safe and out of battle. ImperialPriest 07:24, 8 March 2008 (EST)
 * I already gave in yesterday to your demands and added Ether Signet under variants ;-) Takes away some of the fun though. Since you have to let go of one of these nice other signets *sniff* JoE554 03:09, 4 March 2008 (EST)

When i used to play RA
i ran this:  &mdash; Teh Uber Pwnzer 01:21, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

Protective Bond
For RA when there is no guarantee ill have a monk healing me... i like to use protective bond 70.22.227.166 15:09, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Then your energy runs out in 2 sec and it's stripped. ~ ĐONT * <font color="#444">TALK  16:37, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
 * more like 1/2 sec--[[Image:Relyk Purifying Veil Sig.jpg|19px]]<font color="99CCFF">R ELYK   <font color="CCCCFF">ʞlɐʇ ʎɯ  23:02, 20 June 2008 (EDT)