Build talk:A/D Plains Farmer

Leech Signet > Signet of Mystic Speed
Do the mindblades have the intelligence to interrupt SoMS? or do they just reserve it to fail to interrupt SF? -- Chieftain   Alex  09:48, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * They mindblade didn't graduate, probably that's why they don't interupt SoMS Shinkothesilent 09:55, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I think it's because they have Ignorance, wich prevents the target from casting signets, and thats why the ai doesnt want to waste a rupt on a skill they can prevent from being cast, however they arent smart enough to see that you prevent them from casting ignorance because of shadow form --Infinityraider 18:06, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Attributes
I have a little problem. I feel uncomfortable with aggroing without Critical Agility.  Slayer  à la  Shadow Form   14:03, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Grab the weapon set with the shield, cast Agility if u feel like ur going to die (like under 100hp) and shroud should block the rest till ur back to 250hp, maybe occasionaly hit the mindblades for re-apply Shinkothesilent 15:27, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

I am having trouble making a hero build that can handle the Aataxe's for long battles, mind recommending a good hero setup for the chamber part? Thanks very much
 * Anything with Prot spirit micro onto yourself, ST hero with Union would work, ineptitude might help if you're bad at balling .. -- [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px|link=User:Chieftain Alex]] Chieftain  Alex  23:32, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Rad field?
maybe? Alcahmahol 02:44, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Leech signet would interrupt it for sure. I wouldn't even try it. Flame48 02:59, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Dervish Variant
Just tried this build on my derv, worked great :D Got 5 ectos in 1 run, the run took about an hour and 15 minutes.

[build prof=D/A sha=12 scy=9 win=7+1+3 earthp=6 mys=3+1][Signet of Mystic Speed][Deadly Paradox][Shadow Form][Shroud of Distress][Aura of Thorns][Reap Impurities][Sand Shards][Grenth's Aura][/build]

I used blue rock candy for an ias, but you could probably replace something on here with it, but even without the candy it worked fine. Flame48 03:23, 13 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh nice man ill put it on variants Shinkothesilent 11:18, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Great
The quickest build i ever posted that made it to Great, lets take it to META! ;) Shinkothesilent 11:22, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Crippling Victory over Aura of Thorns
[build prof=A/D shadow=12+1+3 scythe=9 wind=7 earthprayers=6 crit=3][Signet of Mystic Speed][Deadly Paradox][Shadow Form][Shroud of Distress][Crippling Victory][Reap Impurities][Sand Shards][Grenth's Aura][/build]

Personaly I use Crippling Victory in stead of Aura of Thorns, for more frequent triggers of Reap Impurities. I also use Grenth's Aura in stead of Critical Agility to easily farm 2 groups at once (not sure if Critical Agility gives enough survivability against 18 mindblades) Can clear all groups of mindblades in about 1 hour 5-10 mins. Hinagiku Ka Tsu Ra 11:51, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Works really well, better than AoT, thanks for sharing. And i prefer Agility though, because it speeds the run up more than GA, unless u use candy. Shinkothesilent 16:07, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Love this build but I'm only getting like 2-4e in 1hour+ of clearing plainsAlcahmahol 23:21, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * That's about how much you should be getting, just got 5e on my last run. 2-5e per hour is pretty good imo. Flame48 00:49, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

this better not get nerfed anytime soon...
just saying Demonic Sin Ex 04:53, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * it probably will be nerfed next update. it's quite an easy fix, make Mindblades interrupt signet of mystic speed. -- Brandnew. 06:22, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * wait, soms has no cast time? ups. -- Brandnew. 06:23, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * No, it does. PvXcode is wrong. -- Toraen TheJanitor [[image:ToraenSig2.png|link=User:Toraen]] 06:39, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * we're waiting on sync :P-- Relyk  talk  06:41, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * UWSCs have relied on Mindblades ignoring non-spell skills (Glyph of Concentration) for much longer than this build, and they haven't fixed it so far.  &not; «Ðêjh»   (talk)  07:43, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Usually the reason why i don't post my builds, but i thought, what the hell! Let others enjoy it ;) Shinkothesilent 07:54, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

To nerf it they could make them rupt SOMS or they could make SOMS only work for dervish enchantments. Would this build work for pools and pits also? Can anyone imagine any problems their?
 * Should work fine in pits. Probably not worth the effort, but I see no reason it wouldn't work.  Pools, I imagine would need a modified build.  Terrorwebs would drop easily, but Charged Blacknesses can damage and KD through SF.  And this build has the added disadvantage of needing to attack to deal damage and maintain defenses, so they get additional KD from Whirlwind.  I doubt you'd be able to handle more than 1 at a time without serious trouble, and they come in larger groups than that.  To clear pools, I imagine you'd have to find some way to fit IAU into the build, and that would slow you down in plains, no matter which skill you choose to replace.  &not; «Ðêjh»   (talk)  01:47, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Signet of mystic speed
Anyone else finding that signet of mystic speed sometimes ends after only casting shadow form? It should last for 2 enchantments but sometimes only does 1--78.145.106.127 15:38, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
 * It could be that you recasted Signet of Mystic Speed while it is still in effect, in which case the number of uses is NOT reset to 2, but to the number of uses it had before you recasted it. Hinagiku Ka Tsu Ra 17:11, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah that was it. TY--78.145.106.127 18:08, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

My variant (damage-skills)
This is a pretty effective way or farming ectos, average runs yield 5-6 ecto and take 60-75 minutes. I've played around with the last 3 skills to make a faster way of killing; This is my variant. [build prof=A/D name="Planes/Wastes" sha=12 cri=7 scy=10 win=4][Deadly Paradox][Shadow Form][Shroud of Distress][Critical Agility][Signet of Mystic Speed][Aura of Holy Might (Luxon)][Rending Aura][Pious Assault][/build] The damage output is more frequent and doesn't require condition application. It is also notably faster at taking down that single mindblade left over. Good luck :) <_No_Username>

7 heroes
again...didnt you noticed that nice update? Why the hell do you waste personal cons to run to plains and may get fucked by traps, blackness or bodyblock? Just get 2 poros and some dmg shitters...open gate at chamber and poro your way to plains (kill foes that block your way).89.51.224.178 13:30, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

New build?
[build prof=A/D sha=12+1+3 cri=3+1 scy=9 win=9][Signet of Mystic Speed][Deadly Paradox][Shadow Form][Shroud of Distress][Way of the Master][Grenth's Aura][Crippling Victory][Reap Impurities][/build]

Killed skeles too with it. No damage at all and you do more dmg since Grenth's Aura reduces your initial dmg.  Slayer  à la  Shadow Form   19:40, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Profitability of this run
Average e per hour, how often do things go wrong, etc. (honest answers please). Just wondering if this is really more profitable than 100b farming smites. Zero.Six 22:14, 20 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Average of me: 3-4 ectos, nothing goes wrong with the build I posted (just keep hitting skeles if you meet them) [[Image:Shadow_Form~_Slayer.jpg|19px]] Slayer  à la  Shadow Form   06:22, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

[build prof=A/D shadow=12+3+1 scythe=10 wind=4 critical=6+1 deadly=4+1][Signet of Mystic Speed][Deadly Paradox][Shadow Form][Shroud of Distress][Critical Agility][Chilling Victory][Crippling Victory][Reap Impurities][/build] My higher damage, easier energy management and its even good when only a few are left variant. I think that people on here are severely underestimating the spammable damage powers of the adrenaline victory attacks. They can be used far more often and thus deal more damage over time than other damage methods. O and to anwser "Zero.Six"-es question, I get around 11 ectos in a 3 1/2 hour run (that includes parts of pits and pools) and now that I am used to the build I have a 100% success rate. Though unexpected lag or other network problems could bring your success rate down of course.
 * I agree it is very spammable. Downside is I think the damage is still limited. Grenth's Aura reduces the initial dmg so you can spam over the top [[Image:Shadow_Form~_Slayer.jpg|19px]] Slayer  à la  Shadow Form   05:40, 22 April 2011 (UTC

Caltrops
Is better than aura of thorns. You have TWO extra uses of signet of mystic speed before you need to refresh shroud of distress plus caltrops is a 1/4th cast. Enemies don't normally hit those unless it's in hard mode. TL;DR Be better and use your brain. Rask 06:36, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Be better and use crippling victory as spam you dipshit. And the are smart enough to interrupt 1/4 casts! And whats with the mystic speed thing still, it's only for god damn self-targeting enchantments, ENCHANTMENTS! You are a (ow, not a user anymore) and I will not listen to you any further [[Image:Shadow_Form~_Slayer.jpg|19px]] Slayer  à la  Shadow Form   06:48, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol, someone's raging. 128.119.156.115 15:28, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
 * He's right though.  &not; «Ðêjh»   (talk)  17:58, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Why the heck would you want caltrops, to get extra damage once in 10 seconds????????  Slayer  à la  Shadow Form   06:13, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Using this build with an essence?
If we use an essence for this build, we get to drop Deadly Paradox, which slows the Crippling Victory/Reap Impurities build down considerably, and it provides the speed we need for the run. What skill can we use to speed up the build in place of Deadly Paradox? If the builds kills considerably faster, it may cover the expense of the Essence. --Bahamuth 14:35, 1 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Consider you kill <1 hour. Your expenses are 8k. Your return will be 7k/ecto. So yes, you may consider [[Image:Shadow_Form~_Slayer.jpg|19px]] Slayer  à la  Shadow Form   14:46, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

I am the strongest?
I use i am the strongest, to get more damage--Infinityraider 18:05, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Would be pretty useless, since your damage is still capped by Shadow Form. Hinagiku Ka Tsu Ra 23:59, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * without it i hit for 5-11 damage per hit, with a q9 scythe, and i find it easyer to finish of those pesky last enemies, plus i use it with a longbow to kill the dream rider in the centre surrounded by skeletons of dhuum --Infinityraider 17:31, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

All in all
Good build, farmed with it its really safe and noob friendly. But i prefer dervish and VoS its alot harder but more faster and more rewarding cos you can do Pools and get like 3-5 more ecto there in like 20 min and Pits where i get around 3 ecto that allso takes 20 min to farm. But this is more safer people should start with this untill they are familiar with the chaos planes and how mobs work there.--Plobmaster 10:59, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Anybody have there version of chaos planes farming?
&mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 95.180.38.187 (talk &bull; contribs) 08:23, 30 June 2011 (UTC).

Average ecto per run, vs Time taken.
Just wondering what you guys are making and how long your runs are taking, and granted I say 35-40 minutes, I consider myself pretty skilled at balling at efficiency, I generally cover half the plains in 15 minutes tops and use cupcakes for the first part. This is my estimate of profit per hour (not including cupcakes and entry costs)
 * Pointing out that I make roughly 7-9ectos per run, with an average run taking 35-40 minutes at a maximum.

9ecto - 40 minutes 9x8300 = 74700 60 minutes = 99600 (774700 + 1/3) Maximum profit per hour = 99600g + other loot 7ecto - 40 minutes 7x8300 =58100 60 minutes = 77466.* (58100+1/3) Minimum per hour 77466g + other loot Ectos price are currently high since it's Christmas, which also may affect the current drop rate of ectos. Build template that I use (slight variation to Shadows); [Owpl4Nf84lmqGxjozcAVDiJ29NG6cB] Since I don't have a userpage here, this is my IGN: Heavens Clarity. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 78.147.36.201 (talk &bull; contribs) 17:27, 25 December 2011 (UTC).

Possible with updated Crippling Victory?
Hey there will come an update which also changes CV. It will cost now 6 adrenaline and the aoe-cripple is away (you will anyway hit 3 targs with cripple followed from RI). Is it then possible to spam them without hitting +1 strike? --Chekaaaa 08:55, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * A. How do you know it'll change? B. No, crippling victory is for the AoE damage when you have more health than them. C.  RąʂKɭɘş ♣  Mission control out.  09:16, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Use Aura Slicer. @ rask, Update notes [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px|link=User:Chieftain Alex]] Chieftain   Alex  14:08, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * ok thx. --Chekaaaa 21:28, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, went looking for it after I saw a few other posts. I love how they're nerfing the onslaught bar in general and not just for pvp. Clearly onslaught is too strong in pve.  RąʂKɭɘş ♣  Mission control out.  21:42, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Aura Slicer seems to not be working
When I use aura slicer, i know that the mindblades dont bleed, but with reap impurities following it, it should remove the cracked armor and deal holy damage to the adjacent ones. However, it doesnt seem to be doing it at all. Even with critical agility, somehow it seems the 1 second of cracked armor runs out before reap impurities has a chance to hit. Thoughts on what I might be doing wrong? Generalmurgahn 00:17, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Unless you use an egg or candy corn, Aura Slicer isn't usable. Next best option would be Crippling Sweep, but meh.-- Relyk 07:07, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, I did have candy corn. still didnt seem to do anything Generalmurgahn 07:32, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Just tried again, Even with a candy corn, I'm stuck at the 0 mysticism rating of 1 second instead of being boosted to two Generalmurgahn 07:43, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Proves how much attention I pay, only way to raise primary attribute from secondary would be Masochism and similar since you only have access to your primary attribute :<-- Relyk 10:26, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I think aura slicer should be removed from the build page then, it is effectively worthless. I migt just look into getting my dervish into here, it's alot quicker and not much harder Generalmurgahn 22:59, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Pending
Probably yes, right? Shadow  Umbra scriptor Disputatio  18:55, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
 * According to discussion on the D/any, they still don't interrupt Signet of Mystic Speed with Leech Signet. -- Toraen   confer  01:17, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

What would be viable at this point?
Does the most recent builds still work well for soloing? --KungKonung 17:43, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
 * It works, but it's a lot slower since they nerfed crippling victory. The dervish version is much faster than this one, however it takes a little more practice to learn. Flame48 00:20, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the answer. This may be a bit of a nooby question, but why doesn't the dervish version work just as good for an assassin? --KungKonung 11:49, 8 March 2012 (UTC)


 * because VoS and Aura Slicer are mystic.Illoyon 12:34, 8 March 2012 (UTC)


 * In my opinion this build is a lot easier and more user friendly then the derv version since with this build i can just take my time at balling them without worrying about dying. However the problem is what kills to sue as optionals which i was thinking about taking the sand shards and grenth's aura while the 3rd optional should be an attack skill which i was thinking of 3 possibilities: Farmer's Scythe(not the best but is spammable only problem is energy), Criplin Victory or Chilling Victory(for the aoe dmg). However i also thought about using a fast recharing flash enchant and take either Pius Assault or Eremite's Attack. Opinions anyone? 84.108.254.38 22:26, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Consider this?
First time editor in PvX and in the code stuff.

[build prof=A/D shadow=12+3+1 wind=6 critical=6+1 earth=10][Signet of Mystic Speed][Deadly Paradox][Shadow Form][Shroud of Distress][Aura of Holy Might][Zealous Renewal][Sand Shards][Whirling Charge][/build]


 * 5x Blessed Insignas
 * Terrible at single targets
 * Damage is not through attack skills which are hindered by

Chaos Management 03:15, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Sand Shards and Grenth's Aura are already in variants.-- Relyk 04:06, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Name Change
What do you think of re-naming this to "A/D UW Plains Farmer"? It would be more specific and just seems to make sense in my opinion. Mozo (talk) 02:25, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 * If we change these builds to have a more informative and clear name no one should complain. As long as the renaming is consistent, of course. --Krschkr (talk) 01:21, 18 July 2019 (UTC)