Build talk:W/any Hundred Blades

Hundred Blades is still crap. 21:46, 11 December 2008 (EST)
 * yah... im thinking of a farmer now. &rarr; J.J.  berks   (contrib)  21:46, 11 December 2008 (EST)
 * Hundred Blades + Echo Mark of Pain, Your mob is now a crater. Hundred blades kicks ass now.-- Ikimono I know my Paragons [[Image:Paragon-icon-small.png]] 22:50, 11 December 2008 (EST)
 * I made this more generic so that heros can use it. &rarr; J.J.  berks   (contrib)  22:51, 11 December 2008 (EST)
 * Because W/Me/N is definitely possible.... Jonas 13:15, 14 December 2008 (EST)
 * Splinter Weapon maybe? Hundred Blades+Whirlwind Attack+Splinter Weapon=PBAoE explosion of epic proportions. Upside 22:55, 11 December 2008 (EST)

Where is Conjure Flame/Frost/Lightning?
 * The same place as the OPTIONAL slot is. allowing for a generic buff of some kind.-- Ikimono I know my Paragons [[Image:Paragon-icon-small.png]] 09:40, 12 December 2008 (EST)

You really need S&MS in the main bar. -- 15:29, 12 December 2008 (EST)
 * Whirlwind Attack or S&MS? &rarr; J.J.  berks   (contrib)  15:54, 12 December 2008 (EST)

I would really take Whirlwind, because that is pretty much a nuke. To everything. I think this would work well with a zealots smiter monk to totally pwn big groups. Whirlwind is obviously better than S&MS as long as you are next to group of 3 or more people, and if you are facing single targets, you can still use Sever Artery/Gash to damage.Sayar 15:46, 13 December 2008 (EST)
 * Yah, but this is tagged as PvE general and hero, so i put it on the mainbar if you want a hero to use it. &rarr; J.J.  berks   (contrib)  18:01, 13 December 2008 (EST)

EBSoH
Someone willing to test if it works? BeQuickOrBeDead 15:38, 12 December 2008 (EST)

Savage Slash? &mdash; Rapta   (talk|contribs) 15:48, 12 December 2008 (EST)

EbSoH does increase the damage. at max you are doing 40 damage.  ~Enarrrz.   hello.  02:09, 13 December 2008 (EST)


 * I think EBSoH should definitely be main barred, it drastically increases the dmg from 100b Notorious BW 07:23, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

On its own
this build isn't all that gr8. Make it a team build with all the random help out the tanker skills, (ie splinter, MoP...etc etc).-- Under Gunned  00:48, 14 December 2008 (EST)
 * or you could just make a note on the page that its to be used with melee helper skills.-- Under Gunned  00:49, 14 December 2008 (EST)

Imo
and

"For Great Justice!"+Dark Fury mean that Sun and Moon Slash will recharge itself and "Save Yourselves!" completely when it's used. Distracting Blow is the Hero's equivalent of Whirlwind Attack. Air of Superiority recharges Hundred Blades and "For Great Justice!", so you're less likely to have downtime. Heroes probably won't spam Sun and Moon Slash well, but we can let them try. XD ــмıкε  нaшк  13:50, 14 December 2008 (EST)

I personally prefer...

.:Tyla:. 14:15, 14 December 2008 (EST)

Votes
''It's like Incendiary Arrows+Ingite Arrows, but with a smaller range, can hit more often and charge "SY!"/Brawling Headbutt as well as a Dragon Slash Warrior if you bring someone with Dark Fury. If that isn't 5-5-X, I don't know what is, tbh.'' ــмıкε  нaшк  15:45, 14 December 2008 (EST)


 * It isn't 5-5-x tbh. Only in conjunction with a lot of MoP it is 5-5-x. But you shouldn't rate on possibilities when using a team, but rate what's on the article. And that's just mediocre. -- ›[[Image:Many srs beans.png|Srs Bean Mafia.]] Srs Beans R Srs  16:53, 14 December 2008 (EST)
 * It's a physical; it's implied that you should bring buffs. You don't bring an Orders spammer for 2 physicals, and you probably wouldn't run this without one. Barbs, Mark of Pain or EBSoH already make this stronger than a D-Slash Warrior, tbh. There are very few great (great as in high DPS/spikes) physical builds out there, and most of those that are - use PvE-only skills (or is XD). You can't rate a build based on the worst case scenario for your team, nor can you rate it on the best case scenario, but I still find it to be 5-5-x.  ــмıкε  нaшк  17:08, 14 December 2008 (EST)


 * "I find it to be"; at least you state it as an opinion. Unlike others >.>" -- ›[[Image:Many srs beans.png|Srs Bean Mafia.]] Srs Beans R Srs  17:12, 14 December 2008 (EST)

good
its good not great anymore.look at the overal rating.--I r OgR3. Meh. 21:06, 14 December 2008 (EST)

Club of a Thousand Bears
Discuss. 22:32, 26 December 2008 (EST)
 * Adding &rarr; J.J.  berks   (contrib)  22:37, 26 December 2008 (EST)
 * Brawling Headbutt would probably be better, because you can spam it moar. ــмıкε  нaшк  22:38, 26 December 2008 (EST)
 * If you're bringing someone to spam Dark Fury, that is. ــмıкε  нaшк  22:39, 26 December 2008 (EST)
 * CoaTB is AoE and is energy based, meaning it triggers HB and more whirlwind spam meaning way more AoE from HB. 22:42, 26 December 2008 (EST)
 * CoaTB isn't actually AoE unless you're using a Scythe. It deals additional damage for every adjacent foe, but doesn't actually hit them. ــмıкε  нaшк  22:44, 26 December 2008 (EST)
 * CoaTB isn't AoE, not even when you are using a scythe. I couldn't be fucked to read whst mike said. Brandnew.  22:46, 26 December 2008 (EST)
 * I thought they fixed it for Scythes. =/ ــмıкε  нaшк  22:48, 26 December 2008 (EST)
 * I don't know. I can't be fucked to read PvE updates ;p Brandnew.  22:49, 26 December 2008 (EST)
 * you are right
 * Oh damn, thought it was AoE. :3 00:19, 27 December 2008 (EST)

W/D
Here is the build I've been using since Hundred Blades was modified. It really should be the main build in my opinion, there's no need for variants.

12+1+1 Sword / 12+1 Strength, 3 Earth Prayers. Great AoE / single target damage, great survival capacities. Even blinded or against blockers, you still make damage.--Nightkult 00:31, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * those builds are popular and dont need to be archived i think, i've seen it hundred times while doing some missions.Sharpened Daggers aka RIP 23:20, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Echo.
echo the whirlwind attack or get mop.Sharpened Daggers aka RIP 23:21, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * btw u can use this build to kill npc's at cm's too. not very effective, but kinda.

remove dem votes
that refer to this being used on a hero or that it's bad as it is. Fixed. -- -Ch  ao  s-   14:52, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * hookay. Athrun [[image:Athrun_Sig.gif]]Feya  14:54, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Christ. Like noone of the votes actually assess this builds effectiveness, just say it would pwnt with MoP >> there'd be like 2 votes left if i removed these so cba. It is in the right catagory - it isnt particularly great by itself (but has the potential to be in a team.. like manlyspike etc which have suitable Great ratings). Athrun [[image:Athrun_Sig.gif]]Feya 14:55, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Aye. Putting a build in "good" because it's used in the wrong environment is dumdum, and so is 5-5 fanboying because it has potential =/ needs to be made clear that it needs melee support. Kill those muthasssssss -- -Ch  ao  s-   14:58, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Complaining about votes then doing a stupid one yourself is =S--TheShortOneKlhksjdnfsig.jpg $ɧor₮  talk  15:03, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * I edited the build description to say "A warrior build to be used with other melee support characters, most notably a Necromancer with Mark of Pain, for ridiculous area of effect damage.", I meant that you'd clean around the votes that are wrong with the build purpose being that ;o Leaves plenty of votes -- -Ch  ao  s-   15:05, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * This isn't a team build so don't rate it on having a MoP Necro. Rate the actual build, this slashing damage isn't gonna do anything in HM.--TheShortOneKlhksjdnfsig.jpg $ɧor₮  <font face="comic sans MS" color="teal">talk  15:07, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * I dont think you can just say that, if you really want it to be vetted as coupled with a necro you need to change it to a 2 man build with a bar with MoP in on the 2nd one. Otherwise its vetted as a single bar. <font color="Maroon">Athrun [[image:Athrun_Sig.gif]]<font color="Grey">Feya  15:08, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * *Shrug* I'd say I can. So I mash a team tag on it, and make a necro with SS, MoP, Barbs, GDW, FF, SoLS, PwK, EBSoF? Or something. -- -Ch  ao  s-   15:14, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * No, just leave it in Good but make a note it works extremely effectively with the SS phy support bar. <font color="Maroon">Athrun [[image:Athrun_Sig.gif]]<font color="Grey">Feya  15:22, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Dwarven Stability
Surprise nobody mentioned it. Infinite Hundred Blades makes me moist. - <font color="#620460">We <font color="#620460">Heart <font color="#620460">Katamari 21:39, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * Too bad hundred blades isn't a stance BeeD 21:39, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * Too bad I can't read :< - <font color="#620460">We <font color="#620460">Heart <font color="#620460">Katamari 21:45, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * Had to make sure myself, too. didn't want to look like an ass =P --BeeD 21:47, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * Quickening zephyr.--<font color ="Blue">Ikimono <font color ="Brown"> "...And my axe!" [[Image:Monk-Paragon-icon.png]] 22:29, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * Too costly, too stationary. Serpent's Quickness, maybe? - <font color="#620460">We <font color="#620460">Heart <font color="#620460">Katamari 02:51, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * you would do more damage using flail--Relyk 03:09, November 6, 2009 (UTC)


 * Run R/W for big damages! &rarr;<font size=3 style="font-variant:big-caps;font-family:Mufferaw;6px"> BERKS <font size=1 style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Verdana;6px;">deedle...   dum... |undefined 03:22, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Minor vs Superior
Let's talk a bit before we start editing pages. I don't agree with taking +1 over +3. The 75HP difference does not matter at all, for multiple reasons. You don't need the extra hp, you have prots to protect you from big damage spikes. Enemies won't have priority on you anyway since you are a warrior and have 80 base armor, compared to your caster heroes that only have 60. If you die then your team is the fault, not the 75HP you dont have because you use the correct runes. Any other thoughts on this? ZStepmother (talk) 12:43, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm inclined to have this and the Enduring axe go back to superior runes since they are optimal for the build's purpose (damage). You can run minor or major instead if for whatever reason you don't want to run superior without much loss of effectiveness on these two builds. However, the state of protective skills in guild wars negates the downside of a single sup rune in a good team and we should try to recommend best-in-slot equipment choices. -Toraen (talk) 14:25, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 * You won't be surprised when I say that I'd prefer superior runes aswell. --Krschkr (talk) 17:31, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Frenzy
Just curious, why isn't frenzy listed as an optional IAS, or even a variant? Other war builds list frenzy (Enduring Axe). Frenzy is fine the majority of times, I think you'd only use flail in particular SC player groups. This build is listed as PvE General afterall. Sonofthort (talk)
 * I think that I tested it with frenzy but energy became an issue. --Krschkr (talk) 17:29, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 * The main bar only has 2 energy skills right now (with long recharge), plus zealous sword should make it fine. What other skills did you bring by chance? Sonofthort (talk)
 * Death's charge with certainty, maybe also "to the limit!". They're just too good to go without them as a hundred blades warrior. I think I ended up with this? OQcUERKX1vQXF8E4O9FTN7g8V0k Sadly I forgot to save the bar, still have one saved from 2015. --Krschkr (talk) 17:38, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Imo SY! doesn't really need to be mainbarred, it really has nothing to do with the core build. TtL! almost should be mainbarred, as well as death's charge. The only time you don't use death's charge is when you use Ebon Escape in SC groups. That being said, with these skills, energy can be a bit problematic. Still not convinced I would use flail though. By activating flail, Whirlwind loses one charge, so you have to do an auto attack anyways. You might as well Whirlwind before popping frenzy, get energy boost from zealous, then pop frenzy. Slightly tougher strategy maybe. Sonofthort (talk)