Archive talk:Team - Stunning Fury

It's STILL a stub, don't remove the tag before all builds are in place, THEN put it in trial or testing.  Seb2net  (Talk)  16:48, 31 January 2008 (EST)

Ok, sorry :/ - Well now its done. Please come whit comments and all. Im a little unsure on the Chucker build and if the Rit should take Remove hex instead of Recovery :/ Massive   09:03, 1 February 2008 (EST)

Please any comments? Not very orgininal single builds but the hole team is not verry used:P

Well BUMP :P Last time before vetting Massive   09:14, 4 February 2008 (EST)

Moved to testing, plz come whit some comments and tips if neccesary.. Massive  08:54, 5 February 2008 (EST)
 * Take warmongers, take strength of honor. All I have to say atm. [[Image:Image-Dark_Morphon's_Siggie.jpg‎]]Dark Morphon  (contribs)  10:46, 5 February 2008 (EST)
 * Warmongers Weapon.. What about Weapon of Fury then? = /. Strenght of honor might be useful, but.. Got to drop the Restoration eh. ≈Display  [[Image:Blackout.jpg|19px]] 11:57, 5 February 2008 (EST)

Hmm, this is more about pressure.. Having Spread poison and bleed spread on enemies foes + a daze. and RaOs are for pressure, so having upp too 2 daze at once / say monk and maybe rit.. + 7degen isnt bad:P So the res magic, should stay where it is:P Massive   14:29, 5 February 2008 (EST)

Veil > Remove hex on the rit.&mdash; Cheese Slaya  ( Talk ) 01:14, 6 February 2008 (EST)

OK ;) - Anymore you think should be swapped or anything Massive   09:08, 6 February 2008 (EST)

WoF isnt that good, prot prayers attributes make no sense, should be in spawning. needs more Aura of Stability wiht 6 prot(7 seconds is enough). cruel spear is baed on a /p, tbh run RaO because it fails less. at that point, its going to become this build, which is frankly, much better. 09:30, 6 February 2008 (EST)

Agree about WoF...possible Warmonger's for even more int? although that may be overkill with 2x Daze already...otherwise looks fine to me. Guiltfeeder 13:02, 6 February 2008 (EST)

Well, the one daze is kinda conditional and Warmonger, is kinda nerfed.. :/ + The Stunning Spear takes the + side of WoF, maybe put Cruel Spear as a variant or? Massive  11:01, 7 February 2008 (EST)

So since u say its so full overkill whit 2x Daze.. Should i then take another for thumper? Thou the pressure here is nice, whit 7degen, and 2x Daze.. And RaO are ment for pressure builds :/ Massive   02:36, 12 February 2008 (EST)
 * 1 second disciplined ftw.. And most teams have a draw... himynameisbobbyjoe 09:02, 18 February 2008 (EST)
 * I Honestly dont like this because RP's and thumpers are retardedly overused and OP, and a good team can easily roll this. please stop making builds with faggotry thumpers in them. kthx. - [[Image:Rhyssig.jpg|19px]]Rhys 11:19, 18 February 2008 (EST)

Why is the Spear Ranger a Ranger? Is there any benefit? Rickyvantof 13:03, 18 February 2008 (EST)
 * Tiger's Fury and Apply Posion. ≈Display  [[Image:Blackout.jpg|19px]] 13:05, 18 February 2008 (EST)
 * Oh, I see. Rickyvantof 14:09, 18 February 2008 (EST)

Too bad this build doesn't include Enchantment Removal. Since it's based on Physical Damage (mostly) a Guardian or Aegis can make this useless. I wouldn't know how to integrate Enchantment removal in this build, but still. Rickyvantof 16:54, 18 February 2008 (EST)
 * Everyone is going to be suffering from poison. If the monk puts up guardian, attack something else. The monk will prot that, switch back to the monk and kill it. Also the monk will probably be dazed most of the match and taking multiple KDs due to weapon of fury.--[[Image:GatessMoebius Strike Icon.jpg|20px]]The Gates  Assassin  19:25, 18 February 2008 (EST)

WoF
Wouldn't you want 15 channeling to take full effect on WoF?-- AESTHE  T  I  C  OK changed it thx ;) Massive   05:03, 21 February 2008 (EST)

WoF charges adrenal skills no faster at 15 than at 14. Switch back to a minor rune. 76.89.81.150 00:43, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Bar improvements
You have patient spirit on the WoH bar, that's the equivalent of TA RoF. SH is better for high amounts of lower damage packets. I had this discussion with Nova recently, the damage packets in arenas tend to be larger amounts of lower damage, making patient spirit more useful. Also, on a heal bar, the healing prayers hex removal skill is just completely broken, since it can remove 3 hexes within 14 seconds, making it a very viable alternative to Veil. For those who don't know how, it removes first hex after 5 seconds, next one after 10, and last one at 14 seconds, and is not affected by enchantment mods and tranquility. Pre-veiling on rit is still required though, especially as an immediate hex removal, since hex removal over time does have its downfalls.

Furthermore, optional skills depending on your weaknesses-

/E- Whirlwind for melee spikes, GoLE for e-management. /W- Balanced stance, if knockdowns screw you over, and disciplined stance if you are a gud monk. /A- return is self explanatory. /Me- Mantra of Concentration- self explanatory. /R- Natural Stride, if you are a very gud monk.

And why the heck do you suggest frenzied defence? You should only be taking that if running ZB+Prot Spirit.

If using ZB, change patient spirit for SH instead, and perhaps take sig of devotion since you will be requiring an initial 10e for a heal with 7e return, so a heal to conserve energy is wise. Just to close this, GoL, BLight and SoR are just not worth taking. That's the Monk.

Now the rit. No AoS on rit is QQ imo, should be on main bar. That's my only other gripe =] If you think I'm wrong, then go ahead and /rant me here or on my talkpage. Napalm Flame  >=] (talk)·(contributions) 12:22, 20 February 2008 (EST)

Actually, wait, I lied- lack of blind is a bit meh, but I suppose guardian and stances will have to do. If Monk gets KD'ed during a spike on rit I would think the rit would crumple like a leaf to melee, but you can't have everything. Napalm Flame  >=] <font color=#0000ff>(talk)·(contributions) 12:28, 20 February 2008 (EST)

OK, By allready having Holy Veil on the rit i took it out for Spootless mind for quick activation time and nice hex removal.. Took out Draw condition since i allready have Dissmiss Condition and MBaS, so got anymore tip imo :)  Massive   17:58, 20 February 2008 (EST) User:YourName/NewPage

I understand that having two holly veil is bad but i'm not confortable with a monk without it, Rt will usually fail to remove hex before it's covered on M imho. bitter

req 5
i found a shield with 13 armor req 5 tactics.. purple but meh.. that wurth nything?? (i remebered cause this build has 5 tactics monk bar) himynameisbobbyjoe 14:09, 26 February 2008 (EST)
 * 5 tactics is scrubby attributes for people w/o a q7 tactics shield. 5tactics shield offer so little more armor than a standard 8 armor caster shield that its not worth much. People do like q7 15armor shields, which is why they are popular. however the accute pressure teams in TA are leading to people running 9 tactics occassionally to get 16al without being rich. its all stupid. it takes a day of pve to get a q715 al inscirbable shield or 2, and not failing @ farming can buy you a real gold q7 16 al. also, the proliferation of the +10 armor inscriptions allows people to simulate >16 armor against a damage type of their choosing. +10 vs. slashing is strong in TA. --Dark0805 ( Rant /<font color=#ff11aa>Contributions ) 14:16, 26 February 2008 (EST)

The Tactic 5, is just to keep Diciplined Stance for 3sec, nothing more :/ Massive   11:00, 28 February 2008 (EST)

Warmonger
Added warmonger after alot of requests - Swapped it out for some nerfed skills.. Massive  05:45, 20 July 2008 (EDT)

Zb > WoH
Since u allready have the Spirit Light and MbaS id say using ZB full prot whit Gift of Health would be better due tolack of prot or? ¨16:39, 22 July 2008 (EDT)

ADMINS x) vote removal plz oO
I've fixed some bars and added Warmonger.. Some of the Votes was based bceause it didnt have warmonger / interrupt which it does now :) Massive   12:43, 24 July 2008 (EDT)


 * Oh gods, TA is being invaded by Stunning Furries :-( Zerak-Tul 14:38, 24 July 2008 (EDT)

lol, thx "Dont" for removing the votes :) Massive   15:47, 24 July 2008 (EDT)
 * I think Relyk's vote still pertains to the old build. --[[Image:GoD Wario Sig.PNG]]<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 15:48, 24 July 2008 (EDT)

I agree the same whit Dark, i left a notice at their Talk Page but they arent responding :/ Massive   17:09, 24 July 2008 (EDT)

Other to Great oO
LoL beeing in other section for quite a long time, like a 1/2 year, then i swapped 2skills and its Great, lolwtf oO Massive   17:51, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

AoD
Breakpoint is 5 not 7 also your attributes on the rit can't happen.(75.134.131.172 23:24, 13 August 2008 (EDT))