Archive talk:Rt/E GoR Runner

Wow I remember suggesting this ages ago :> --Frosty  23:01, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * This looks familiar. Did you post it a while back or just sandbox it? Karate [[File:KJ for sig.png]] Jesus  23:13, 29 January 2010
 * does look familiar lol-- Relyk  talk  23:44, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

why can't something be meta and in untested? maybe im missing something here. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk &bull; contribs) (UTC). 00:13, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * I guess voting counts on confirmation of meta-ness or something. ---  Ressmonkey  (talk) 00:34, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * yea people only run whats on pvx! &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk &bull; contribs) (UTC). 00:37, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * ...not what I meant. I meant that voting acts as a sort of community recognition that the build is meta as well as being a good build. ---  Ressmonkey  (talk)
 * i see what you mean but, normally people just put meta tags on, its not usually voted on, so whats the difference between vetted and nonvetted :P &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk &bull; contribs) (UTC). 00:45, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

lol someone explain how having GoR makes this easier to shut down then shackles plz. Gringo 05:03, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2s cast on your snare? Dshot on glyph renewal cuts your party healing way back--TahiriVeila 05:07, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * dshotting GoR is harder then dshotting recup, not a valid argument. and you can still snare almost everything that splits (wars, e/d's, me/m or me/mo), yada yada. or if you run me/e you can just drop snare for spirit. 2-2 is absurdely low for someone bitching about "bar trashing the other person". Gringo 05:10, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Also considering that no one is playing this helps. It just doesn't offer any ADVANTAGE over shackles and has several downsides shackles doesn't. Thus it's not worth having on wiki.--TahiriVeila 05:12, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * [GoH] ran it in the monthly, isn't that your only standard for how good something is? Gringo 05:16, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * GoH are dirty euros and no one's run it since. Doesn't that suggest to you that people realized it's BAD and stopped running it?--TahiriVeila 05:17, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * ahaahaahahaha. everytime im about to sleep, you say something hilarious, ty jake. Gringo 05:19, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Uh yeah, suggesting that the lack of use of a build implies that it's not the best build available (by darwinian principles of natural selection) is just a real knee-slapper. =\--TahiriVeila 05:22, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Isn't this quite simple inferior to a shackles runner? You'll snare on this effectively will have a 10 recharge, where shackles has 12, while provideing a better snare. Shackles also has way better support, it seems to me because it can take more slots for weapons/healing/whatever? Though triple kaolai is just that good. Brandnew 11:47, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's the point I've been making all along. Saint just likes to rage at me no matter what i say--TahiriVeila 17:06, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * double weapons helps keeps npcs up, perma ims, perma snare, triple kaolai. its a nice alternative to shackles, im not saying its superior. jake no one cares what you think. Gringo 18:13, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * kk. all i wanted to know. Brandnew 20:29, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * no, i'm pretty sure it's just you pal--TahiriVeila 20:30, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Easier to shut down? This rit doesn't have a spirit, and makes up for it by having a pot he can drop more. Pot is a lot harder to stop than life or recup most the time. Unless having a 2s is what you're talking about, but if you have glyph up, your spell recharges automatically even if its interrupted, so if anything I'd say it's possibly a harder bar to shut down. Really the only annoying issue with it is it has 2 glyphs, which can be kind of clunky to use, but it's workable. Pluto 21:29, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * While you can theoretically glyph to permaspam snares, you're effectively taking 3.75s to snare. If you don't think a split war/ranger/ele/mes couldn't dchop/shock/dshot/savage/meteor/dsirupt sig that in that time (or just simply pump your ass) than you're nuts. Glyph is a great idea in theory, in actual play it's just not practical, taking an extra 1.75s to cast weapons/pots/snares just isn't time a flagger can afford.--TahiriVeila 22:11, February 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * um why cant they afford it? flaggers have a shitload of downtime, they are never constantly casting, its just weapons and pots Oo. Gringo 22:17, February 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Did you purposefully ignore my point about the plethora of interrupts split characters bring or are you simple dense?--TahiriVeila 22:23, February 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * i chose to address a different point that you originally brought up. is that too hard for you to follow? do i have to respond to all of your dumbassery at once? Gringo 00:08, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * No but most competent people indent properly so that some idea of what said person is responding to can be easily ascertained.--TahiriVeila 02:10, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * DID YOU JUST IGNORE MY ENTIRE POINT OR ARE YOU TRYING TO BE DAFT?!? YOU DIDNT EVEN ADDRESS WHAT I SAID! see what i did there? Gringo 02:15, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Erm, pretty sure i directly responded to what you said. Mockery fail?--TahiriVeila 02:19, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * you still (what, 3 posts later?) haven't responded to the question i asked. stupidity fail? Gringo 02:28, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I acknowledged that if you're just using pots after having dropped a flag off at stand the energy burn is acceptable. Still you're much weaker off against any kind of serious split than a shackles rit would be.--TahiriVeila 02:39, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * no you didnt awknowledge that? and how the hell is it weaker, its got double warding or resilient, infi snares if you need. any ranger can dshot shackles, how the hell is "oh theyll rupt it" a valid concern at all. no one said you HAD to use GoR with your snare, so none of this ""waa 3.75 cast" horseshit. if anything its better then shackles on splits, and youre just a pisser because vr doesnt run it. piss off with your obs mode hardon and use your fucking head you twat. Gringo 02:47, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, because taking 2.75 seconds and 15 energy to cast warding isn't going to get you fucked? I'm done arguing with you, you make so little sense it's fucking ridiculous--TahiriVeila 02:53, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * you are quite possibly worse then luke. Gringo 02:56, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Saw this run by #15[yM] vs. #26[TGun]. GoR wasn't used all that much, other than on pot, though it worked rather well then. Vital on everything that walked.

EisenhowerSmash! 06:18, August 12, 2010 (UTC)