Archive talk:Mo/any SoJ Boonsmite


 * O :O :O :O  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 12:39, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Shield of judgement is still pretty horrible. You might make one person 'invulnerable to melee' but you know, you still have three other party members. Brandnew.  12:40, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Beats the shit out of Balth's Pend imo.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 12:40, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Balth's islolspammabletrytokdusOSHTyoucant Brandnew.  12:43, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Yeah, it sucks cause it's only useful against hammer warriors SooJ works against anything; warriors, assassins(if they're not SA), Dervishes, Spear chuckers, Ranger, you name it. If SoJ gest half recharge you can keep it up for like 40 seconds, fucking win. If it doesn't get removed of course.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 12:48, 12 July 2008 (EDT)

No offense, but Rip and Rend say hi. SoJ beats the shit out of physicals, but is easy to overcome (especially if running a Rip/Rending Axe). -- * Wah Wah  Wah! * 12:50, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
 * I know, but Shock Axe fails against blind :P  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 12:51, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
 * The thing is, blind is fairly easy to counter. Most TA builds will have a couple of sources of enchant removal, getting one of them off every 45 whatever SoJ recharges ina fter GoS seconds isn't really to difficult to do when it renders one of the chars near-useless. I do enjoy the prospect of farming RaOwayers like trolls though. --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]Tab  Moo  12:56, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
 * I know this gets raped by enchantment removal but if it doesn't get removed it owns :P  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 12:58, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Echo/Mantra of Resolve/SoJ/fuckton of cover enchants/preturn for Rend gogo --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]Tab  Moo  13:00, 12 July 2008 (EDT)

If you're good you can stack SoJ and RoD for a possible 117 domage ;o  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ  12:54, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
 * But that way it's kind of bad, as it's only focused on keeping SoJ up. On the other hand, keeping SoJ up fucking owns :o  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 13:01, 12 July 2008 (EDT)

Dude. just no. please no. no. NO FUCKING NO I SAY. NO. NO. NO FFS. NO. NIET. AND THE LAST ONE: FALLING MAN FROM A CLIFF: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...splash

ench removal sez hi to ur elite83.249.119.162 15:45, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
 * I do enjoy the prospect of farming RaOwayers like trolls though--[[Image:Relyk Purifying Veil Sig.jpg|19px]]R ELYK   ʞlɐʇ ʎɯ  21:20, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
 * There's things you quote, and things you don't quote. That above is a prime example of something you don't quote. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 23:00, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
 * lol :P  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 18:37, 14 July 2008 (EDT)

Has seen some use in GvG lately :O--Underwood 05:56, 27 July 2008 (EDT)

GvG
Used by a SUP member playing for qE, discuss.  Frosty  No U!  07:43, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Discussion: I don't care. Brandnew.  07:57, 31 July 2008 (EDT)

Ricky's vote
What with the ench-hate meta *cough SA rip axe mirror rend axe gaze CE* the vote should be rethunk rethought.  * Jebus  *   Is    I  Enter my contest! 15:44, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Lolcover--Golden [[image:Goldenstar.JPG|19px]]Star 16:26, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

Dear Jebus
40/40 set + 34 second recharge is more than enough for SoJ. It's not something you're supposed to perma-maintain, you dump it on something taking tons of pressure, or you put it on a warrior to WTFrape VoD. Stop being bad and obs a match--Golden Star 16:23, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
 * There's a compromise to be made over the scoring of it. While the recharge is fine under ideal circumstances, it's not exactly hard to strip SoJ when it goes up at VoD. This is a bit too gimmicky to be worth a great vote imo. --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]Tab  Moo  16:25, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Oh, definitely not great, not trash either tho.--Golden [[image:Goldenstar.JPG|19px]]<font color=#C68E17>Star 16:26, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

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Goldenstar Last edit: 16:22, 06 Aug 2008 (EST) [ restore ] Removed:

Glyph of swiftness + 40/40 sets for smite, you don't need to perma-maintain it. The recharge is fine and this is hawt, stop being bad and obs a match

Reason: No GoS anymore, it's not really that good, it's pretty gimmicky. Removed by: Ibreaktoilets

Ups. --<font color="Black">Tab  <font color="Black">Moo  16:27, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Yeh i may have overvoted a bit :P--<font color=#C68E17>Golden [[image:Goldenstar.JPG|19px]]<font color=#C68E17>Star 16:40, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

Meta
Since when do meta builds used by top guilds get bad votes...lolololol? Maybe vote wipe thro back in testing....or vote better plox. Psychiatric Consultant  19:20, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Because it's still bad? Like the expunge polly war, counter spell breaker? lol cant kill without your eles spamming flare --Underwood 19:32, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Be less terrible. --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]<font color="Black">Tab  <font color="Black">Moo  11:12, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

Just because its gimmicky and won't work in every single conceivable situation doesn't NECESSARILY mean that it is bad. The expunger war was a gimmick everyone knows that but it worked for that specific situation. Just because rawr doesn't go all DF honor and run a perfectly balanced build that they play every single time doesn't mean that their gimmicks are bad. See, I think this is where you and I disagree, I think gimmicks can be good depending on where and how they are used and I don't fault people or guilds for using "gimmicks" to win. Because in the end no matter what gimmicky builds they use the better team is always going to come out on top, I think part of being good is being willing to tailor your builds to specific situations like Rawr did. Psychiatric Consultant  11:25, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
 * By it being gimmicky I mean that while it can work well at VoD, which is the only reason to take this, it's not going to work very often at all. It's incredibly easy to stop SoJ doing anything at all at the single key moment in the match where it's needed. Giving up the versitility that other elites offer for a VoD strategy that isn't going to do much vs good teams isn't really a risk worth taking alot of the time. --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]<font color="Black">Tab  <font color="Black">Moo  11:30, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

You have a good point. It did work for Rawr however...then again Rawr could make echo-mending work to their advantage :p. Psychiatric Consultant  15:38, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

This was used for VoD, letting the hammer(or axe that doesn't frenzy) tank npc's and easily blow their brains out. Since it's used on the tank, this has alot of ench covers and won't be stripped(unless rend). —ǘŋ Ɛxɩsƫ  12:31, 9 August 2008 (EDT)

ups
o lawd sum nigga dun stoel ma vod --<font color="Black">Tab  <font color="Black">Moo  12:30, 9 August 2008 (EDT)