User talk:Rikk Panda/Sandbox/Build:GvG Hexgay 2011

Hey janitor, check the in brackets extra time for weapon spells, im sure that 7 in spawning powa gives more than 1,5 secs xtra lasting on resilient, it xud give u 28% more duration... same goes for wep of ward, its not 1,1 secs xtra... 83.240.216.127 12:20, 8 June 2011 (UTC) enormous
 * I think pvxbig displays half of what spawning adds. So WoW is 10 seconds and RW is 14 seconds. Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava}  [[Image:They're_On_Fire_Panda.jpg|19px]] 00:03, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Who's running this? The only hex shit I've seen has been quad necro in mAT =\--TahiriVeila 18:38, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * ^. Also, E-Drain? Aonsephonie 19:02, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * No one's running this, this is just my theoryland. Although i'm still partial to this being better than quad necro :X (coming from the person that wrote the old quad necro). E-Drain is there because... uuhhh. I figured there would be energy problems and there's really no need for E-surge when you have BA and a frontline, so it's either that or Tease. Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava}  [[Image:They're_On_Fire_Panda.jpg|19px]] 23:54, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Esurge is more damage and more edenial. Not taking it is retarded--TahiriVeila 02:43, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * You're not thinking about what the extra energy entails. Placing more Wasterl's is more damage than 81 every 15 seconds from surge. I'd rather use diversion on recharge and have skill-denial moreso than -9 energy. Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava}  [[Image:They're_On_Fire_Panda.jpg|19px]] 05:31, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * zzz stop being bad. Esurge don't take wastrels for the damage they take it to punish backline players and make them use their energy. You're not understanding the point of a hexway. It's not like a regular pressure build where you push kills by spamming damage. A hexway is supposed to great pressure through punishment and degen so that when one person pops the entire team collapses. And again, edrain is fuckawful energy management. It costs 5 energy and returns 8, onces every 30 seconds. That's not even returning you an extra cast of wastrels. Stop being so terrible zzz--TahiriVeila 13:23, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It returns 21 with given attribs...just so you know. it multiplies stolen energy by 3. Falrach 13:51, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Zzz my bad, haven't paid attention to bad prophecies elites in a lot time. Still wouldn't use it. You can manage energy just fine with pdrain + drain enchant--TahiriVeila 14:54, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Basically tahiri sucks at explaining but 90% of the time he is actually right and this is one of those times - the general concept is good, but i'd finalise the frontliner, the mes definately needs changing and the ranger bar could do with mend touch not leech. The Blood nec needs snares, too, unless you swap to take a crip on the ranger. Rawr 13:16, 24 August 2011 (UTC)