User talk:DarkNe7h

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Stop being a terrible player and misleading other users with your comments on talk pages. Dervishes will often have more armor than warriors with the new changes to mysticism. With the additional energy cost reductions from mysticism and appropriate use a of a zealous scythe, a dervish should never have energy issues unless the player is fucking terrible. If you're not familiar with the changes made to dervishes and the impact of those changes on the game in the last few months, please shut the fuck up. Don't theorycraft. While full-dervish frontlines have fallen out of favor in the last week (because of the nerf to IAS skills, not the incredibly powerful AoB + flash enchants) they were previously better than warriors in almost every aspect (utility, pressure, and spiking capabilities) and made up the entire frontline in almost every build played. They still see frequent use in mid-level play and can be very effective because they simply shit out pressure with very little skill required. So please stop being bad. And sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ )--TahiriVeila 05:30, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * First of all, my apologies for my forgetfulness in signing. Second of all, I'm quite familiar with meta and recent changes, and don't appreciate when you come onto my talk page and talk shit to me and insult my intelligence. I'll theorycraft whatever the fuck I want because I've seen the builds in top 100 play and know exactly what's working and what's not. I don't roll frontline in an 8v8 but I can tell you that the full derv frontlines are eurotrash farming builds that are rolling out of the meta just as fast as they came in because of the short-lived zeal associated with the reworking of the very essence of a class. Everybody tried it, everbody quit it. Aside from those shit eurotrash farmers who aren't going anywhere above top 300 now, eh? I think we can expect some frontlines consisting of a shockaxe or devhammer leading an EDA of some sort, they put out conditions nicely and provide a nice mix of offense/defense if they're experienced enough to work the battlefield against the other team. AoB is too easily shutdown to be worth it though, and don't troll/try to sway me because some douche on the internet isn't going to change my mind. Now, if you have something interesting to say, please do. If you're going to continue with your shit-talking and dribble, just leave. I'm going to delete it anyways.
 * Just fyi, you can't delete any comments tahiri makes, even though he could be more polite about it. Also, don't bring your personal vendetta against the dervish meta onto the site, the wiki is for recording the meta, not writing it.-- Relyk 06:53, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't have any vendetta against the Dervish meta, I'm responding to it based on my opinion of its quality in comparison to alternatives. Meta in comparison to what WILL be meta. DarkNe7h 07:06, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * There's no point in arguing what the meta will be though, we can't dictate which way the meta will swing. So until current dervish meta falls out of favor completely, any (proactive) changes to the builds on the wiki are futile. The better place for the topic would be the forums at guildguru, talk pages on builds should only pertain to the builds themselves.-- Relyk 07:27, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Turn on obs mode and watch top 20 teams getting wiped by full derv frontlines. zzz--TahiriVeila 23:40, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Never said it plain doesn't work, but a full warrior frontline will end it.
 * I'm sorry but that's just not true. Dervishes are easier to use and put out more straight pressure and dps than an axe or hammer warrior any day. a cripslash MIGHT almost be comparable to a balth derv but it lacks the constant aoe burning, the massive armor, and the adren gain. With the nerf to wounding strike, evisc may have surpassed dervs in terms of pure spiking capability but other than that wars are still very inferior to dervs--TahiriVeila 15:26, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * They'd sit their EDA on your Hammer, then pressure your team until they can push kills, quite passively and without energy trouble I assure you. Then someone would wipe to Wearying-Twin Moon and the rest would fall like dominoes. Warriors did not compare to the pre-tweak Dervishes, I'm afraid. Aonsephonie 17:25, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * That AoE burning and AoB in general is rendered useless by any decent mesmer. Hell, I've seen devhammers tab over to the Dervs simply to rupt AoB and continue on with spikes as usual. The "massive" armor you speak of..what is it? Dervs only gain like 10 armor with Mysticism, and still have no natural resistances to physical damage.
 * 70+10(Mysticism)+20(AoB)+10(Blessed)=110 defense! [[Image:AsuraSignature.jpg|15px]] Anvil God  zzz... 17:55, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * To cover your point with EDA, what blind pressure? An EDA rip will drop both durations of blindness and a quick foul feast or RC will rid the problem of the EDA. You have a point with the armor, but again, it's so easily rupted that it's not worth running.
 * You shouldn't be spamming your blinds on recharge. You should be using it to disrupt pew pew spikes. [[Image:AsuraSignature.jpg|15px]] Anvil God  zzz...  18:02, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * All I've seen is EDA spam on recharge. Not to mention the earth damage gets evenly reduced by, you know...a shield set. DarkNe7h 18:04, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Did you know like...flare..and ice spear's damage gets reduced by a shield set? I heard that was the case for Lightning Strike too. Who would've known a shield set decreased damage. [[Image:AsuraSignature.jpg|15px]] Anvil God  zzz... 18:10, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Sarcasm as a rebuttal to sarcasm -- not clever DarkNe7h 19:01, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * How was I being sarcastic? Shield sets do reduce the damage of Flare, Ice Spear, and Lightning Strike. Unless you want to prove me otherwise. [[Image:AsuraSignature.jpg|15px]] Anvil God  zzz... 19:05, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Still not working, just quit while you're ahead. DarkNe7h 19:09, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Worked enough to get a response :D. [[Image:AsuraSignature.jpg|15px]] Anvil God  zzz... 19:12, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * A response doesn't validate a troll, try harder. DarkNe7h 19:24, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Late EC: zz at multi-tasking Joko's Domain; say I'm the troll when you're trying to argue bars are bad because there are defense sets. [[Image:AsuraSignature.jpg|15px]] Anvil God  zzz... 19:32, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I've provided countless reasons to a purely subjective topic, chill out. DarkNe7h 19:40, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Chill pills causes nausea. [[Image:AsuraSignature.jpg|15px]] Anvil God  zzz... 19:45, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't say anything about a pill. DarkNe7h 20:34, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you prefer the inhaler then? [[Image:AsuraSignature.jpg|15px]] Anvil God  zzz... 20:35, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Pipe. DarkNe7h 22:59, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I like it up the butt. It's personal preference really. [[Image:AsuraSignature.jpg|15px]] Anvil God  zzz... 23:00, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure why you think otherwise, but trust me: stripping EDA is not a counter to that bar at all. --Lemming 19:28, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Especially if you've seen the new Lyssa dervs that give Dust Cloak a recharge of 5. Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava}  [[Image:They're_On_Fire_Panda.jpg|19px]] 21:16, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Also:how the fuck does a decent mesmer shutdown an aob derv? Dom mesmers don't bring empathy unless it's a hardcore hex setup, and if your dom mes is spamming diversion + edenial on frontliners he's Doing Something Wrong.--TahiriVeila 21:18, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * PI? PD? CoF? No AoB, no damage, no AL bonus, no burning. DarkNe7h 22:59, 30 May 2011 (UTC)