PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard/Resolved General Issues/Archive 4

IRC
"Topic for #pvx is “The PvX Builds Wiki channel: http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/?title=Main_Page | it throws a boner at them

Topic for #pvx was set by Gigenet.IL.US.GameSurge.net on 18 June 2008 00:41:31" &not; Klump  eet  15:23 {GMT} 22-06-MMVIII
 * I'm not sure whether this was the right place to bring this up, but whatever. &not; Klump  eet  15:24 {GMT} 22-06-MMVIII
 * i'm not seeing a problem here....elaborate plz. ~PheNaxKian  (T /c) [[Image:Phenaxkian_sig_phoenix.jpg|19px]] 11:35, 22 June 2008 (EDT)
 * The bit where it says 'it throws a boner at them' &not; Klump  eet  15:36 {GMT} 22-06-MMVIII
 * Whenever I've been on there it's had a stupid topic. Stupid topics are one of the main reasons to have an IRC channel. --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]Tab  Moo  12:04, 22 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I don't know that it's one of the main reasons, but, either way, it's not an issue. [[Image:Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  09:16, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

TOC Question
Where is the TOC located? I tried all the combinations I know and can't seem to find it. I would like to try to edit it to fit with my page scheme a bit better. Thanks Choytw Talk Debates 14:23, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I'm obviously not wanting to modify the file that everyone uses (besides, it's probably protected), but copy it to a page and edit that one. Choytw Talk Debates 14:26, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
 * (ec)As far as i'm aware TOC is built into mediawiki (i could be wrong here) and thus isn't a tempalte at all.....also moved issue under general issues and made it a sub heading... ~PheNaxKian  (T /c) [[Image:Phenaxkian_sig_phoenix.jpg|19px]] 14:29, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

Anyone have any further clarification or validation? Choytw Talk Debates 14:44, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
 * You can probably use your monobook.css to change the way it looks, but I don't think there'd be any other way to. If you don't know css, I can probably help you with customizing it some.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 15:11, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
 * TOC can be altered with tables (example). ~ <font color="#444">ĐONT <font color="#444">* <font color="#444">TALK  15:15, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Thanks to you both. I'm fairly familiar with CSS so will give it a shot.  Don't...most of those were blank but I'll look at them further to see if they'll be of help.  <font color="Blue">Choytw Talk Debates  15:20, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Try, View Source. - 15:22, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Actually, firebug is better if you use firefox.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 16:17, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

Very good idea Misery...can't believe I didn't think of it ;-).  Only problem is (and the same problem when I tried using CSS here earlier) is that the code doesn't show up correctly.  Do you have to add anything to the edit box in order to get CSS to actually work? <font color="Blue">Choytw Talk Debates  14:09, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Did you clear your cache? (Ctrl + f5 on IE and firefox).  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 00:11, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
 * According to a post here, Don't said the coding used to make ToCs can only be implemented by Admins...is this correct? [[Image:choytw_sig_1.JPG|20px]]<font color="Blue">Choytw Talk Debates 10:47, 24 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Bump to get an answer [[Image:choytw_sig_1.JPG|20px]]<font color="Blue">Choytw  <font color="Blue">Talk + 12:54, 24 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Bump read above for question please [[Image:choytw_sig_1.JPG|20px]]<font color="Blue">Choytw  <font color="Blue">Talk + 15:04, 24 June 2008 (EDT)


 * Please don't bump every few hours.
 * From Wikipedia: Notice: NavFrame have been deprecated in favor of collapsible tables since September 2007.
 * I added collapsible tables to PvX. Remember to clear your browser's cache when trying it out. –&thinsp;<font color="darkblue" face="times">H HHIPPO  &thinsp;&lsaquo;<font color="blue" size="-2">sysop &rsaquo; 15:55, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

Confirmation E-mail bug
I can't get my conformation e-mail and im sure what to do, i've tried different e-mails and it still won't appear. What should i do?--Lord of Destruction 16:53, 28 February 2008 (EST)
 * Just try to rate something. IDK you need a comformation e-mail. --[[image:GoD Sig3.jpg|20px]] Guild of  Deals  17:23, 28 February 2008 (EST)
 * What email provider are you using? Becuase if it's aol, try uninstalling aol, because aol is a virus. Also, try adding admin@pvxwiki.com to your contacts list. <font color="#CD2626">&not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 17:59, 28 February 2008 (EST)
 * Ok I do have aol but I'm at school right now and I'll try it when i get home thanks--Lord of Destruction 07:30, 29 February 2008 (EST)
 * Im having the same problem. someone PLEEZ HELP MA[[Image:Phoenix.jpg|19px]]<font color="Black">Ìmmφrτalìs αnìmµs a Kìεsτ   ( talk / pvxcontribs ) 18:08, 29 February 2008 (EST)
 * It's really a bug. I made a new account and a new email address; got a confirmation email from GWW just fine, couldn't get one from pvx no matter what I did. No amount of clicking "send confirmation" made it come. - Auron 04:33, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
 * same. I just put my new e-mail addres on and never got confrimation.--[[Image:Rebirth Infidel.jpg|21px]] <font color="Black">aesthetic
 * Bump? this is rly annoying not to vote/see votes.--[[Image:Rebirth Infidel.jpg|21px]] <font color="Black">aesthetic
 * Idk, but it'd be great to sign w/ 4 ~'s instead of just 3... Then we can see the date. That is really Gcard and Hhhipos thing though.  14:07, 23 March 2008 (EDT)

Check Junk Folder. &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  18:11, 23 March 2008 (EDT)
 * thats been checked to many times, its a problem w/ the sight.--[[Image:Rebirth Infidel.jpg|21px]] <font color="Black">aesthetic 20:00, 27 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Yeah, for me it was the Junk folder that held the very wanted mail! (I use a Gmail account) -Agrippa 12:01, 14 April 2008 (EDT)

Not getting the mail either, tried multiple email accounts and checked every folder available. No conformation email at all. SniperFox 07:47, 30 March 2008 (EDT)


 * Was on here quite awhile.. havent recieved any comfirmation email at all so something is wrong there, not that I need it now but... just to make u aware. --<font color="Black"> Super Igor  17:01, 5 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Thought I would never get this e-mail as well, but it was just in my spam folder. -Mediocre 14:37, 15 April 2008 (EDT)
 * this needs to be fixed.--[[Image:Rebirth Infidel.jpg|21px]] <font color="Black">aesthetic 20:45, 15 April 2008 (EDT)
 * I just made a new account and new email address and it sent the email right away without any problems. I'd recommend making a Gmail account and trying that if you haven't already. It's entirely possible that there's something wrong with the coding that makes it screw up when sent to certain email addresses/domains. Wizardboytest 21:32, 15 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Check your spam folder. Thats where i found mine...207.214.143.130 13:50, 16 April 2008 (EDT)
 * thanks wizarboy its fixed now :).gmail>hotmail.--[[Image:Rebirth Infidel.jpg|21px]] <font color="Black">aesthetic

going against his ban, obviously as an IP adress. --<font color="Black"> Super Igor  15:43, 22 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Skakid says it's not him and DE's pretty sure it's not him, as skakid usually owns up to his trolling.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 18:07, 24 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Actually it could be anyone who like to use the word "nigger", was Rhys or Grinch banned recently? --<font color="Black"> Super Igor  18:10, 24 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Who cares about grinsh? He's dead. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  12:20, 29 April 2008 (EDT)

Vandalism. <font color="#4F94CD">PheNaxKian </B> (<font color="Red">T /c) 11:34, 23 April 2008 (EDT)
 * He didn't do anything hugely harmful and stopped after Misery warned him. I'll ban him if he starts doing it again, but otherwise there's really no need.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 14:51, 23 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Hmmmm it appears he stopped because when he got 8 conts...could jsut be a coincidence but i belive that's when you can vote...=D nvm forget i said anything then >_<. <font color="#4F94CD">PheNaxKian </B> (<font color="Red">T /c) [[Image:Phenaxkian_sig_phoenix.jpg|19px]] 15:39, 23 April 2008 (EDT)

you know. --<font color="Black"> Super Igor  07:43, 26 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Blocked  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 16:12, 27 April 2008 (EDT)

Getting in Revert war with 71.229, sig breaks Sig policy and he's been told, but seems like he doesn't care if he's breaking policy. See Super Igor's tlak page for more information about more reasons he should be banned tbh. <font color="#4F94CD">PheNaxKian </B> (<font color="Red">T /c) 16:04, 29 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Pretty sure no one should be touching userpages full stop, so maybe they should ALL be warned. Quite frankly this site is turning into a site full of retarded little children that have nothing better to do than squabble and fight over stupid petty things. Selket Shadowdancer 22:48, 29 April 2008 (EDT)
 * while i agree that the others should be warned (at least some of them) Drowning (or rainbow or w/e he wants to be called) seems to have done the worse, he not only broke 1RV, he broke NPA and he's breaking Sig policy (without so much as giving a crap even though he's been told and he's aware he's breaking policy). And yeh i agree, the wiki is slowly ( going down hill and that's an understatement if anything) <font color="#4F94CD">PheNaxKian </B> (<font color="Red">T /c) [[Image:Phenaxkian_sig_phoenix.jpg|19px]] 10:53, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

Violation of PvX:ARCHIVE here. Please reprimand him. &mdash;  Ska K  id  17:11, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
 * It's in the history.
 * It's spam.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 17:20, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
 * It's also not against policy. You can challenge the archival of a thread you deem pertinent, but ARCHIVE specifically states that any user may archive any thread.  [[Image:Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  17:22, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
 * no u &mdash;  Ska K  id  17:41, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Lol DE is a bad kid. --[[image:GoD Sig3.jpg|20px]] Guild of  Deals  07:05, 3 May 2008 (EDT)

Likes to spam Fire Tock. Nearly 1MB of such spam undone here. - PANIC!   <font color="#D70000"> sexiness!  06:50, 2 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Warned.  10:40, 2 May 2008 (EDT)

could anyone delete my account please as i dont need it no more, thanksJuno 10:50, 2 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Only Gcardinal can actually delete an account, so if you want your account deleted, you should probably make a note on his talk page to that effect. [[Image:Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  11:06, 2 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Hmm, I told him to come here rahter than GCards talk page... K, will tell them the right thing next time.  11:08, 2 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Actually, I'm not sure that deleting accounts is meant to be possible. MediaWiki doesn't have any built in way to do it, and if you just did, it would probably screw up histories and contribs and everything. Plus, what if someone else made an account with the same name as the deleted one? Would any contribs from the original user get attributed to the new one? Imo, just stop contributing, tag user page for deletion if you want, and maybe remove your email from prefs or whatnot.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 19:06, 2 May 2008 (EDT)
 * As I recall, there's some precedent for account deletion on PvX, but, either way, Cardinal can offer a definitive answer. [[Image:Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  16:59, 3 May 2008 (EDT)

&mdash;  Ska K  id  17:05, 3 May 2008 (EDT)

Destructive Was Glaive
Not really sure where to place this, but look at the resolution of Destructive Was Glaive: and compare it to the resolution of any other picture:. I don't want to screw up anything, otherwise I'd reupload it myself, but you never know what's going to happen... God box   06:47, 3 May 2008 (EDT)

He moved Archive:Mo/Me Blessed Light Monk (which redirects) to Build:Mo/Me Spam Healing Monk and changed all the content on the page without discussion. As far as I'm concerned, it's vandalism. I was trying to revert as many of his edits as possible, but then he moved the page, and I had to go. He also moved his userpage to Spam_Healing_Monk, but that shouldn't really matter. -Mike 08:38, 3 May 2008 (EDT)
 * I would think it was just an accident or just from lack of knowledge of WikiCode. --[[image:GoD Sig3.jpg|20px]] Guild of  Deals  08:25, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Well, it's fixed now, anyway. -Mike 08:42, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

Template:Featured builds
The tested PvE builds link to their respective PvP builds instead, i.e the first tested PvE build links to the first tested PvP build. God box   06:30, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 * works fine for me... <font color="#4F94CD">~PheNaxKian </B> (<font color="Red">T /c) [[Image:Phenaxkian_sig_phoenix.jpg|19px]] 07:12, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Only on the template page, otherwise it works fine. God  box   07:16, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Fixed. Was my mistake.  08:24, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

Spirit's Strength Guide
It is a red link now, not sure whether that was intentional or vandalism, figured i'd post it either way. Sorry if wasting timeUnder Gunned 19:41, 5 May 2008 (EDT)
 * It was deleted, iirc the majortiy thought it was pointless because there's only aout 2 viable builds for SS, so it was pointless to amke a guide for it was the thinking....Removing link from Guide section anyway. <font color="#4F94CD">~PheNaxKian </B> (<font color="Red">T /c) [[Image:Phenaxkian_sig_phoenix.jpg|19px]] 10:31, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

Vote Removal and Perception of Bias
I've seen situations more than once where an admin has nuked a builds rating by removing all votes over a certain score. While I understand the reasoning, it is extremely easy to misinterpret this as bias on the part of admins, especially when they only leave votes that agree with their own. Not sure if this is done, but when people's votes are removed, perhaps find a way to let them know, and let them know why so that they can fix it? Just wanted to bring up this concern, since I've seen more situations resembling this recently, and have actually seen comments indicating that others have also noticed this. --Kalas Silvern 02:28, 2 May 2008 (EDT)
 * There have been a coupla policy proposals revolving on notifying users when their votes are removed, you might want to check out some of those and see about reviving those discussions. [[Image:Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  14:57, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Well I disagree. BMs and Admins are very smart and this site is for 1 purpose only and that is to store builds.  Common GW players look here for builds, not to discuss.  Only the REALLY dedicated ones make an account and comment build pages.--<font color="black" face="hyborian">X [[Image:Crossfire Godlysig.png|19px]] 14  15:03, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
 * some people come here just to troll thou  Antiarchangel [[Image:Antiarchangel No U Sig.png|19px]] <font color=#C0641B>TROLL  17:55, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
 * As per your explaination crossfire; common gw people are bad. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  10:50, 13 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Exactly. On+ly the+ +rly +l+eet o+nes ar+e cs+mar+++t+++--<font color="black" face="hyborian">X [[Image:Crossfire Godlysig.png|19px]] 14 11:07, 13 May 2008 (EDT)+

vandalism, especially Archive:A/Me Perma CoP Farmer.--Reason.decrystallized 14:44, 28 May 2008 (EDT)

, not happy with his non-admin, provocative and offensive behaviour, not happy with the asshtedry towards myself and th innapropriately long and unneeded bans. ~Super Igor
 * Umm, no. You have edited many users comments before, and it is about time you get a trolling ban.  15:14, 12 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Pot, kettle, etc. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 15:16, 12 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Like the first time but only because ricky started to bitch around the talk and it didnt make me happy because i dont like him. what else? nobody was reporting me either and the flame generally died, then armond came, trolled and banned me? wth?? also, nobody was getting banned for editing my posts and trolling me in a same way, why do i get banned?? because you dont like me?? what kind of admins you are then?? same goes for the ban extending galore etc. you think you are cooL? no, you are not. /peace, i dont give a damn. ~Super Igor
 * "nobody was getting banned for editing my posts and trolling me in a same way, why do i get banned??" Oh really? 18:54, 21 April 2008 Wizardboy777 (Talk | contribs | block) blocked "Skakid9090 (contribs)" with an expiry time of 3 days (NPA, 1RV)  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 15:34, 12 May 2008 (EDT)
 * 9 days > 3 days, and Ska is worse. banning for uber long periods just because of not liking someone is not worth of admin, and Armond just does that. --149.254.200.220 15:36, 12 May 2008 (EDT)
 * I banned Igor for a longer period of time because his block log showed him as having multiple bans before. If Wizardboy wants to ignore the block log and ban for shorter periods of time, that's up to him. Also influencing my choice of ban length was the fact that Igor didn't seem to have learned from his previous week-long ban, whereas Ska generally cools down after a few days.
 * Not sure if the latest IP is you, Igor, but the more you evade your ban the longer it gets. I won't feel sorry about banning you for a month if you keep this up (or even a year if you really insist) - next evasion bumps you up to two and a half weeks. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 15:45, 12 May 2008 (EDT)
 * FYI to admins: Checkuser shows that 149.254.200.220 is Igor. Not extending ban because I said I would next time. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 15:47, 12 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Admin discretion. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 16:21, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

Vandalism after being warned. --71.229 16:27, 16 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Eh, I'm going to give him a very minor ban, like 8 hours or something.  16:47, 16 May 2008 (EDT)

Self reverting vandal? &mdash;  ク  Eloc  <font color="Black">貢  13:22, 17 May 2008 (EDT)
 * What's the problem then? &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 17:41, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

Insists that Erf Shakurr is correct. See contribs. &not; Klump eet  17:15 {GMT} 19/05/<font face="Times New Roman">MMVIII
 * Not noticeboard-worthy, but resolved anyways. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 14:01, 19 May 2008 (EDT)

^^ Troll. -  isery   -TALK  16:24, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Yeah, it was Crossfire. I'm not sure why he did that... He also apparently had 3 other accounts, minus .Frvwfr2.  16:27, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Dont block destiny he is my brother. I did sock Frv's and Woofs and im sorry :(.  I think a month is a good amount of time for ban.  I wont do it again.  We both share a computer and occasionally he comes onto PVX.  I doubt hes going to go on anytime soon, but im sorry for socking :-P.  Frv was a joke of.c, i had great plans.  Woof was idk lol, my bad.  But Destiny is not me.64.12.117.131 17:41, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
 * No offense, you might be telling the truth, but there's hardly anyway for anyone to know if you actually are telling the truth or not. I mean your being banned for sockpuppetry which fair play to you you admitted (not like you can't seems your bang to rights anyway :p) and unless you can significantly prove that it is your brothers account it should by rights be banned. Selket Shadowdancer 15:13, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Vandalizing Featured Builds. -- Guild of  Deals  20:01, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Warned him.  15:08, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

vandalism. Archive:A/E Perma Daggers Farmer.--Reason.decrystallized 09:41, 30 May 2008 (EDT)

Blatant trolling and NPA on Build talk:A/W Way of the Shadow Selket Shadowdancer 20:57, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Warned.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 21:19, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Trash build template
It would be ncie if the trash build template(s?) has a section to keep any tags that were on the build, such as PvP team, HA, RA etc. so if the build is voted and becomes vetted you don't have to go through the history to find. I know it's not difficult to go through history but i hust think it makes life easier if the tags are already there... <font color="#4F94CD">~PheNaxKian </B> (<font color="Red">T /c) 18:25, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
 * They can just check the page history. Such things are unnecessary on trash build templates. No one is going to be mass-restoring Trash builds. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 18:26, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
 * I know it's available in the page history i just think it would be useful is all but w/e. <font color="#4F94CD">~PheNaxKian </B> (<font color="Red">T /c) [[Image:Phenaxkian_sig_phoenix.jpg|19px]] 18:35, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
 * If you do, the template still works normally.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 18:51, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Vandal. <font color="#4F94CD">~PheNaxKian </B> (<font color="Red">T /c) 14:50, 25 May 2008 (EDT)
 * NVM DE got him =p <font color="#4F94CD">~PheNaxKian </B> (<font color="Red">T /c) [[Image:Phenaxkian_sig_phoenix.jpg|19px]] 14:50, 25 May 2008 (EDT)

likely same person as above. <font color="#4F94CD">~PheNaxKian </B> (<font color="Red">T /c) 14:51, 25 May 2008 (EDT)
 * DE got him again.  20:52, 25 May 2008 (EDT)

Consistently removing WELL tags despite warnings. See Build: A/E Shadowy Feeling and his talk. -- Guild of  Deals  10:45, 26 May 2008 (EDT)
 * DE got it. --[[image:GoD Sig3.jpg|20px]] Guild of  Deals  18:06, 26 May 2008 (EDT)

Bad votes with incomplete reasons in large quantities. <font color="#DD2200">Lord Belar 17:46, 27 May 2008 (EDT)

All of his accounts have been blocked for one month. Shouldn't the socks be permabanned? <font color="#000">&not; Klump eet  08:49 {GMT} 28-05-<font face="Times">MMVIII
 * Kriest is his brother, but .Frvwfr and Woof should be perma-banned. --[[image:GoD Sig3.jpg|20px]] Guild of  Deals  15:17, 28 May 2008 (EDT)
 * .Frvwfr2 is, and I'll up woofs.  15:22, 28 May 2008 (EDT)

My lost password is not being emailed to me because someone changed my preferences or the lost password feature is borked. I checked both of my email accounts and both trash/spam sections of them. I need halp mr.admin prz i rly ned. 76.168.64.126 22:00, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Get on MSN and tell us that.  22:28, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
 * wtfww? 76.168.64.126 22:30, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Misfate says this is him, so unless someone stole his MSN, it's good. Also, he'd like to know what email address his account is set to.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 22:35, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
 * mr. gee-cradinal i rly ned halp. 76.168.64.126 22:37, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
 * It's a yahoo address. Do you want it to be posted here? –&thinsp;<font color="darkblue" face="times">H HHIPPO  &thinsp;&lsaquo;<font color="blue" size="-2">sysop &rsaquo; 05:14, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
 * No, get an admin to MSN it to me. 76.168.64.126 11:49, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Or maybe you can tell me on MSN. 76.168.64.126 12:26, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Get on MSN when you get the chance, and Armond or I can tell you.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 18:08, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
 * All is well. Except for my blue screens of death. Misfate  00:47, 2 June 2008 (EDT)

Vandalized my user page slightly. ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡ ͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡ I͡n͡f͡i͡d͡e͡l  ̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲| ̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı__̡͌l̡*  11:00, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Umm yeah, thats probably cuz its annoying as fuck.  11:57, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I have a proposal for this kind of thing. We require that any box on a userpage or talk page that follows the screen include id="userpagebox", and then add code to Common.css so that those aren't displayed by default. Users who want to see them can add code to Special:Mypage/monobook.css to make them visible again. That way, they aren't annoying.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 17:50, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Well when it becomes a policy I'll remove it...If it is so annoying then don't look at it, simple as that. ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡ ͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡  I͡n͡f͡i͡d͡e͡l  ̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲| ̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı__̡͌l̡*  18:04, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I like that idea Wizard. Want me to write it up?  09:15, 2 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Oh, you wrote one already you said. Well I think we can just add it to PvXwiki:Editing User and Talk Pages.  09:45, 2 June 2008 (EDT)

deleting other people's comments = vandalism. talk page on .--Reason.decrystallized 16:47, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Well, the comments he removed were basically trolling. And he hasn't done it after being warned.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 17:45, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
 * kk ... i'm not saying 'ban his ass', but it just seemed like something an admin should address.--Reason.decrystallized 08:42, 2 June 2008 (EDT)

Very aggressive, violates NPA, flames other people every time there is a negative reply onhis build, example seen here: [], please sort him out.
 * For the record, he's never edited that build. He has been replying to troll-ish comments in an aggressive manner yes, but the comments are trollish. - 09:01, 2 June 2008 (EDT)
 * That does violate NPA Misery, Igor stated that he didn't like the build, Underwood said "I don't like your face" which is completely irrelevant and violates NPA. ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡ ͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡  I͡n͡f͡i͡d͡e͡l  ̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲| ̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı__̡͌l̡*  09:05, 2 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I have full right saying that I dont like something, it is not trolling. --  Super Igor   *ninja!!*  09:08, 2 June 2008 (EDT)

Adblocker Issues
Some adblocker systems block certain skill icons, an example would be Arcane Zeal, since the link for it contains '/ad/' which is commonly filtered in adblocker systems. Any way to fix this? EXteel 07:43, 2 June 2008 (EDT)


 * Allow PvX through your system (that's what i do), normally does the trick. Also for future reference, new topics go at the bottom =). <font color="#4F94CD">~PheNaxKian </B> (<font color="Red">T /c) [[Image:Phenaxkian_sig_phoenix.jpg|19px]] 08:06, 2 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Yeah, that works, fair enough. Just thought there may have been a way to change one or two figures in the dodgy links, edit the templates a little and then the issue ought to have been fixed for anyone. Probably too much effort than it's worth though. EXteel 09:05, 2 June 2008 (EDT)

and many other edits on Sway. God box   14:19, 3 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Warned.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 16:06, 3 June 2008 (EDT)

Evading bans (as usual) on IP 92.40.195.50 and warned twice to stop by users. - PANIC!   <font color="#D70000"> sexiness!  06:29, 6 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Ban was extended to a month.  22:01, 6 June 2008 (EDT)

Archiving
Sorry if this is in the wrong place but I need to archive my talkpage, can an Admin show me how to do this please (not just do it, I'd like to know how to do it for future reference). Thanks. Selket Shadowdancer 12:26, 19 May 2008 (EDT)

This person is trolling my talk page and it is getting very annoying. Just look at his last comments on the page. I've already asked him to stop more than 1 time and he continues. ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡ ͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡ I͡n͡f͡i͡d͡e͡l  ̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲| ̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı__̡͌l̡*  09:23, 2 June 2008 (EDT)

likely User:Napalm Flame, judging by his userpaeg comments and crapwiki. generally talks like him too --Ms Chnandler Bong 21:58, 6 June 2008 (EDT)

PvX:NPA at 's rate page. (don't know if since I wasn't being attacked I'm supposed to report, oh well) Templar612 17:31, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Napalm claims to be cousin. EXteel was on napalm's acc or napalm on EXteel's acc, I don't know both well. However; I have suspecions too. —ǘŋ Ɛxɩsƫ  06:24, 8 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Yeah, I borrowed his acc recently to GvG, since I got a 3 day ban due to 'racial slurs'. EXteel 06:28, 8 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Bad liar. &mdash;  Skakid  11:55, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Not like it matters. It's either a) He's Napalm and gets banned for being a douche. or b) He's not Napalm and gets banned for being a douche. Doesn't really matter either way. &mdash; Rapta   (talk|contribs) 21:18, 8 June 2008 (EDT)
 * lol, wizard wants me to be a gigantic dick so I can get banned =P EXteel 10:03, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Constant breaking of 1RV here. Keeps revoting with the same reasoning and vote despite removal. --<font color="Black">Tab  <font color="Black">Moo  17:30, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I've changed the reasoning on my vote or changed the numbers on each revote. Learn to check history please. Selket Shadowdancer 17:33, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Keeping the reason it was removed and adding 0.1 to a score does not count as a satisfactory vote change. It's not a trashworthy build, either accept that and vote accordingly, or don't revote. --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]<font color="Black">Tab  <font color="Black">Moo  17:34, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * A problem is that blocking a user doesn't prevent the user from revoting, which appears to be the issue here. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 17:37, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Give a warning. A ban is still pretty much a threat to stop. --Guild of Deals<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 17:39, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I think it is Trash, and my vote will continue to reflect MY opinion! You CANNOT tell me how to vote if I do so within the rules of voting and give valid reasoning, to do so is not showing what I truly think of the build as you're just forcing a differing opinion. To ban me over my opinion of a build is quite simply retarded. Give me a fucking GOOD reason why that build is NOT trash instead of removing my vote with stupid remarks that make no sense then crying about it on the AN. Selket Shadowdancer 17:42, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * There's reasoning on the talk page. I can, and will continue to remove your votes when they portray a wrong opinion. --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]<font color="Black">Tab  <font color="Black">Moo  17:43, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I'm not a fan of it, but just don't rage over one build. Just let it go. --Guild of Deals<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 17:45, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Why does my vote say 2.45 when it comes up as 2.5 on the actual vote? :/ Selket Shadowdancer 17:55, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I think it's the rounding thing. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 17:56, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * So does this mean I'm going to be going backwards and forwards with this rubbish all night to find a balanced vote? Selket Shadowdancer 17:58, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Beats me. I just removed the rating because of some IMS comment. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 18:07, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Constantly page wiping the build he submitted, it is going to WELL anyway, but it is ment to be done properly (or am I just failing here). / Fros  T  alk  \ 10:46, 10 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Probably a newbie mistake and just wanted his page deleted. Nothing major. --Guild of Deals<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 13:09, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

Fairly active vandal, been warned, continuing. - 14:50, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I thought it was just the Chaos Planes farmer, but he/she also wiped Extinctions page (No reverted), blatent vandalism. / Fros  T  alk  \ 14:53, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Blocked.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 16:44, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Holy crap, Wiz smash. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 16:48, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
 * He contacted me privately and says it was his cousin. Since he was very polite/mature about it, I'm gonna unblock him.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 23:39, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

Vandal. Check contribs. --Guild of Deals<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 21:39, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Stopped after warning. None of them were really terrible bad, and the Sparta->Tahlkora was not bad...  21:49, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

Random, strange vandalism and unrelated comments on Talk pages. --Guild of Deals<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 12:32, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
 * He cut it out after a warning. Sorry for the spam. --Guild of Deals<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 12:39, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
 * (EC damn is it hard to find this spot on the whole page...) I think he's going for 8 contributions... Is that still a req to rate? Lets see if he continues...  12:40, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

Dunno if this person has something against me, but he just trash voted 7 (up from 6) builds I submitted in a row, I understand some of the votes do mention correct reasons, but seems a bit impulse voting don't ya think? / Fros  T  alk  \ 22:15, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
 * That does seem a little odd, especially since he only rated your builds. You probably should have talked to him first, to see his reasoning, though. -Mike 22:27, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Wow make it 9 now, lets see if every build on my user page gets trashed, kinda funny tbh EDIT 10 now rofl / Fros  T  alk  \ 22:28, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Not trying to single you out. RC was getting slow and i happened across your page. Found a bunch of garbage builds. It's not anything eprsonal, i rate bad builds badly.--Goldenstar 22:44, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I don't see any problem here. --[[Image:scottie_bow.jpg|19px]]  Scottie_theNerd  (argue / criticise / complain)  23:14, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
 * There isn't. Might just be the case that your builds are weak, and that needs some changing. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  09:21, 18 June 2008 (EDT)

Quite obvious that he's only pretending to be bad at GW so he can continue to troll PvX. No 10:30, 19 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Indeed, I have looked through his contributions and I am sure to call him a highly skilled troll. --<font face="Forte" color="OrangeRed">Tiger  [[Image:Tiger's Fury Tigrr.jpg|19px]] <font color="Black"> grrr!!  06:57, 20 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I wouldn't really call him a troll. And it doesn't look like he's "pretending" to be bad at Guild Wars, he looks just to be, erm... not very skilled at it. --Guild of Deals<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 07:05, 20 June 2008 (EDT)
 * he ... how shall i say this? he tends to view certain skills and combinations as under-rated. and he's a bit touchy.  but i don't think he's a troll.--Reason.decrystallized 07:10, 20 June 2008 (EDT)
 * His contributions, not matter how wrong his view of skills are, are trying to be constructive. I could just be falling into this so-called "trick" that is said to be what Droks is doing, but I'm not sure. I'll leave it to admin opinion. --Guild of Deals<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 07:12, 20 June 2008 (EDT)
 * (ECx2)See GoD, my oppinion is directly opposing to yours and we are about to start a debate, meaning Droks has done his job here too. :) --<font face="Forte" color="OrangeRed">Tiger  [[Image:Tiger's Fury Tigrr.jpg|19px]] <font color="Black"> grrr!!  07:15, 20 June 2008 (EDT)
 * (EC) Most people spend like 25% of their time on PvX watching comments and builds of such persons. Sure it's officially not allowed, but if he's rather funny then annoying, why block him?[[Image:Impossible_Odds.jpg‎|19px]] Frans  07:17, 20 June 2008 (EDT)
 * (EC)Well, he pretends to be stupid, substitutes ineffective skills in rather good bars and always states highly contreversial information while taking a victim's position to lead one group of people who support he to a group of people doing otherwise. He is not touchy, this is touchy, this is touchy but not Droks. Frans, judging by your point of veiw every body who got banned should not have been. --<font face="Forte" color="OrangeRed">Tiger  [[Image:Tiger's Fury Tigrr.jpg|19px]] <font color="Black"> grrr!!  07:21, 20 June 2008 (EDT)
 * No, not quite, I'm not familiar with all of them, but Igor pissed like, everyone off.[[Image:Impossible_Odds.jpg‎|19px]] Frans  07:23, 20 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Anyway, lets do this on the talk page.[[Image:Impossible_Odds.jpg‎|19px]] Frans  07:27, 20 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Indeed, I have a lot to say and this is not the place were to do it. --<font face="Forte" color="OrangeRed">Tiger  [[Image:Tiger's Fury Tigrr.jpg|19px]] <font color="Black"> grrr!!  07:30, 20 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Lighten up, Francis. --71.229 07:39, 20 June 2008 (EDT)

Obviously a highly skilled and active troll, it must not be ignored. --<font face="Forte" color="OrangeRed">Tiger  <font color="Black"> grrr!!  07:10, 20 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Besides a good chunk of drama before people started catching on, he hasn't done anything harmful, and as Misery said he's actually been helpful to a few people. I don't see any reason to do anything. --71.229 20:03, 20 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Agree. He also humors me.  21:04, 20 June 2008 (EDT)

Zeecron. See page, Talk, etc. --Guild of Deals<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 11:19, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Done. [[Image:Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  13:05, 21 June 2008 (EDT)

Signature is pretty offensive. I request an Admin ask him to change it. Selket Shadowdancer 20:59, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Was dealt with. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 00:57, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

I think it's Zeecron. See here. Yes, this was ninja'd. --Guild of Deals<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 09:49, 22 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Blocked. [[Image:Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  17:22, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

/cough, needs a different acc name. --Guild of Deals<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 12:39, 22 June 2008 (EDT)
 * He's also using my sig... --Guild of Deals<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 17:12, 22 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Resolved by DE. Yeah, I saved some of your time! --Guild of Deals<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 17:23, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

We should remove his votes, or? -<font color="Black">Shen 09:04, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
 * No, that would be a hell of a lot of work. And he can just revote anyways...  09:54, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Shen means the votes he's made since being perma'd. --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]<font color="Black">Tab  <font color="Black">Moo  10:00, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Oh. Still a load of work. And he can just rate again. And we can't stop him.  10:01, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

Troll. --  Super Igor  *ninja!!*  11:30, 24 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Warned. [[Image:Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  12:48, 24 June 2008 (EDT)
 * So, everyone who will troll now will be warned/banned? Hawt. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  14:24, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * This is not a talk page actually, but yes i think so, this user isnt different from other (trolls), nobody is priveleged (dunno how to spell this) --  Super Igor  *ninja!!*  14:44, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Rusty RfBM
He's gone inactive since April. Should we close this one? --Guild of Deals<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 16:17, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

Some wird asshatedry towards me, goes around the site spamming nasty stuff about my posts, probably wants me to freak out and get banned again thats wrong. --  Super Igor  *ninja!!*  15:06, 25 June 2008 (EDT)
 * ...why were you unbanned again? &mdash;  Skakid  15:07, 25 June 2008 (EDT)
 * That's harsh lol [[Image:choytw_sig_1.JPG|20px]]<font color="Blue">Choytw   <font color="Blue">Talk + 15:12, 25 June 2008 (EDT)
 * As this is a noticeboard and not a talk page, please refrain from discussing! &not; Klump  eet  19:13 {GMT} 25-06-<font face="Times">MMVIII


 * Oh and you spelled it wrong =) &mdash;  Skakid  15:17, 25 June 2008 (EDT)


 * This user is asshatedry to everybody. I suggest staying out of his way igor.  The Admins gave him chances....--[[Image:Mister Resetti.jpg|21px]]<font color="black" face="hyborian">GRAARR   / RESETTI  Crossfire  12:00, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

Just back from a double ban and still thinks it's a good idea to be spiteful and obnoxious to people - PANIC!   <font color="#D70000"> sexiness!  13:35, 26 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Its all in good humor :) I secretly love tab.  Ask him!!--[[Image:Mister Resetti.jpg|21px]]<font color="black" face="hyborian">GRAARR   / RESETTI  Crossfire  13:37, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

May want to watch this individual. <font color="Blue">Choytw  <font color="Blue">Talk + 16:36, 26 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Warned. ~ <font color="#444">ĐONT <font color="#444">* <font color="#444">TALK  07:06, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

vandalism and general idiocy No 19:39, 26 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Banned for a week. Didn't see the other pages, so if he continues perma it...  20:15, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

FlamingMetroid. See here --Guild of Deals<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 20:44, 26 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Blocked.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 21:05, 26 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Metroid was perma'd, so shouldn't the proxy be too? Anyway, most proxies are perma'd anyway. --Guild of Deals<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 21:06, 26 June 2008 (EDT)
 * IP's shouldn't really be permabanned, since they could be reassigned etc. etc. Also, it looks like he has a dynamic IP, since this one is pretty similar to the one that shows up when I checkuser him.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 21:07, 26 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Alright, just wondering. Nothing like flexing the ban hammer fingers now and then. --Guild of Deals<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 21:08, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

Removes my comments here, I was sure that guy would take stupidity further, and he did, there was already a warning by Wizardboy not to remove any of my comments no matter the content. --  Super Igor  *ninja!!*  19:56, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Do you feel the need to comment on everything you see in RC? Shut the fuck up already, the wiki was functioning well before you were unbanned for no reason, now the apparent amount of complete stupidity is really bringing this place down. &mdash;  Skakid  20:21, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * ...Telling someone to shut the fuck up on the AN isn't the wisest decision in the book. --Guild of Deals<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 20:22, 27 June 2008 (EDT)


 * Igor, just to make this clear, you don't have any sort of magical protection. That applied when people were going around removing every one of your comments from random talk pages.
 * Skakid, avoid removing other users' comments. It's Rapta's talk page, let him decide if it's meaningless spam worth removing. And trolling Igor certainly won't help improve the situation.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 23:21, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I doubt anyone would find "ups" meaningful. The AN is not your playground, User:Super Igor. Don't treat it as such and use some common sense when you're pressing that "Save page" button (or better yet, the "edit" tab at the top. If you don't make retarded edits, then you won't have to deal with people removing that retarded comment. That way, everyone wins. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 00:10, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Well, reatrded joke welcome template from grinch that wasnt even working first gets an ups reply, u know this pvx wiki humor, Im not saying that i have some kind of magical protection but never less removing any comments that arent actually disruptive (blanking pages, messing with wikicode, spam etc.) shouldnt be removed, and also that barrage at mpa at me with no appropriate reason, you are causing disruption yourself this way. --  Super Igor  *ninja!!*  07:50, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
 * "I doubt anyone would find "ups" meaningful." Might wanna ban...oh...half the active users? Gogey 08:31, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Again, no matter the content if the comment is not disrutpive and it wasnt it should not be removed, not to mention that the whole topic was a joke. Stop trolling, stop being silly, dont violate npa all the time it just wont do any good to you Skakid and it wont do any good to the site either. --  Super Igor  *ninja!!*  09:48, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Stop trying to use policy to enforce retarded actions/edits. It doesn't work for you, especially, of all people. There's no violation of NPA occurring, and meaningless edits are considered spam (and thus, can be removed). I don't ban often, but I certainly will if that's the case. And your actions in particular are usually full of useless spam. Don't go think that your actions to provoke other users with idiotic comments are isolated from discussion - because they are. That history of yours alone plays an important role in the outcomes of your edits on this Wiki. The same goes to other users, whose names would not be mentioned here. You (should) know who you are. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 13:37, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Im pretty sure "Shut the fuck up" is NPA. See Skakids comment on here. --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]]  Ressmonkey (talk)  13:52, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
 * 1) The indents were placed in a way that it was shown as a response to my comment and 2) I'm not sure why "shut the fuck up" is a violation of NPA, rather than just a rude comment. I'm not getting into that stupid debate. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 13:55, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Shut the fuck up isnt NPA but sure is disruptive and unpleasing to see on a computer :P--[[Image:Mister Resetti.jpg|21px]]<font color="black" face="hyborian">GRAARR  / RESETTI  Crossfire  14:05, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
 * So are you giving all those people a permission to troll, insult, npa fest and remove my comments and not only mine? Again, Im not spamming, Im not trolling and I cant understand why people who constantly try to lead me in stupid flame wars and freak out get defended so furyosly. Yeah I got unbanned, have problem with that? Pm an wizardboy or auron and dont bombard me with retarded flame or remove my comments or do whatever you do test my nerve, it creates stupid debates like this that just waste my time. So thats pretty much it, surely I can understand that you Rapta are trying to defend your fellow elitist and no matter what he does you would still defend it, so yeah good job, yeah "shut the fuck up Igor" isnt npa at all. --  Super Igor  *ninja!!*  15:48, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Elitism is irrelevant, stop bringing up nonsensical points to try and get someone banned. If you're going to be arguing policy, then you, someone who trolls constantly, should be banned. It's more hilarious that you can't seem to identify what is a personal attack (outside of "Shut the fuck up", which is quite mild in its case). And stop bullshitting about other people trolling, "npafesting" or insulting you, because you provoke it yourself by making dumb edits and comments. You're the one that's leading into those flame wars. Note that other users don't appear to have that problem, while you've been at the center of every other wiki-drama event since your first arrival on this Wiki. Of course, it takes two to start a dispute, so I could either ban both you and Ska, or ban neither. I chose the latter. Stop whining. I'm not a policy nazi, but I will step in when people make continuously stupid edits. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 16:14, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Elititsm is relevant, it is blood of this wiki that makes it going, basically it consists either of people who can watch observe 24/7 or been top levels of pvp play at some point and have still some kind of connection to that level and those people know that the site dies without them and often abuse this fact, thats ot the point though. Telling me to shut the fuck up is npa, it is rude and those people ddont have any right to flame me, as for my comments,I am not provoking anyone for aggressive reaction, Im not making useless edits on build pages if you havent noticed, and you seem to notice negative stuff only which is not good imo and Im not leading into flame wars, infact from the day of my unban I never flamed anyone but am constantly recieving agrssive replyes such as me making victim of myself all the time on a mere question about, say, indenting and am getting bombarded by swearing, npa, idocy etc. after and no thing can make me sure that ignoring it would solve the problem as those people could consider it as a sign of weakness which is very common for some individuals and take the troll even further. No, I wasnt the center of all wiki drama here since my arrival, look the full history, and if I were it wasnt me who caused it most of the time but the retarded trolling from side of certain users. This discussion is getting too long, I want all of the retarded flaming, trolling, comment removal towards me to stop, those people have no right to do that and admin should not encourage such behaviour, again, If you disagree with the unban right away contact an admin and discuss it with him personally, dont go flame and troll it would just make things worse, for everyone. --  Super Igor  *ninja!!*  18:37, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
 * If you would think about the value of your comment before going "lolSavepage" then there would be no problem. &mdash;  Skakid  18:43, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Takes two to tango. Selket Shadowdancer 19:02, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Only 1 person leads in a tango. Can we all stop being overly sensitive, mingling with people we don't get along with, and posting walls of text on the AN? - PANIC!  [[Image:Panic_sig4.png|50px|18px]] <font color="#D70000"> sexiness!  19:04, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Where there's a leader there's always a follower. ;) Selket Shadowdancer 19:15, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I'm too tired to read through all of this now, but I agree with Panic; if you'd all stop going out of your way to make the situation worse, more likely than not, this would all go away. [[Image:Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  19:14, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
 * It's as Skakid said. Before this gets archived, I'd like to make it clear that the absurd amounts of stupid edits being made by some users repeatedly (not just User:Super Igor) and then trying to hide behind policy when someone replies unfavorably for them, is unacceptable. These amounts of trolling and stupid edits is almost unfathomable. Looking at the history, I see that a few users (including this User:Super Igor) have been at the center of trolling and malicious edits, mostly due to the very situation I described just now. As DE made the announcement regarding trolling on May 12th, I fail to see why this issue has to be continually be addressed, and that policies like "PvXwiki:Constructive Criticism Only" have to be written up to prevent such trolling. That being said, I've probably been too lenient with the blocks (only... 1 block in a month?) with regards to trolling, and perhaps it's time that this is enforced more seriously, despite the announcement having being made over a month ago. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 19:48, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

Posting joke builds and putting great tags on them is bad afaik--Goldenstar 00:08, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Stuck a trial tag on it after i removed the great-tested one--Goldenstar 00:13, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Explained him why not to use tags on userspace. ~ <font color="#444">ĐONT <font color="#444">* <font color="#444">TALK  07:06, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Problem wasn't putting tags in his user page. He was posting joke builds outside his userpage, then putting tags saying the build was vetted "great" without anyone voting on them.--Goldenstar 14:24, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Assume he just didn't know what he was doing.  &not; Wizårdbõÿ777  ( sysop ) 16:10, 28 June 2008 (EDT)