Talk:PvX wiki/Archive 3

Help
my buildI made this build and I wanna put it in testing farming but I don't know how :S.--Raps4life 07:16, 20 July 2007 (CEST)

Builds Table
Going to fix it ok. Readem (talk *pvxcontribs ) 21:48, 13 July 2007 (CEST)

Well, did the best I could with my limited coding skills :/. If there are any bugs, feel free to let me know :). If any of the Templates need to be changed, they can all be found here. Readem (talk *pvxcontribs ) 00:43, 14 July 2007 (CEST)


 * Sorry to make your efforts obsolete, but I found a way to do it with just one template. So the links to featured builds are here and all the rest is directly on the main page. I think that's better than using a whole chain of templates. –&thinsp;H HHIPPO  &lsaquo;sysop &rsaquo; 01:15, 15 July 2007 (CEST)

Heh.
The anti-builds-wipe site is having a builds wipe? Suddenly I don't feel quite so bad. :) Tanaric 03:04, 14 July 2007 (CEST)
 * We aren't wiping builds, just unfavoured ones. Napalm Flame  ^_^ [[Image:Napalm_Flame_Sig_Image.JPG‎]] (talk)·(contributions) 03:06, 14 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Tanaric? Feeling bad? lololgud1 - Auron 08:52, 14 July 2007 (CEST)

Sorting Builds
A way to sort builds by profession would be helpful. Imagine checking every page to find your profession's builds versus clicking one link to find all the builds in one place.
 * Category:Builds by Profession? - Auron 08:52, 14 July 2007 (CEST)

sweet. needs a link on the front page, though. unless i couldn't find it either...


 * I'd propose this instead. Using special pages keeps the lists up to date automatically, while categories rely on users remembering to manually tag each build. Experience with the Campaign categories shows that many builds are not tagged. Btw: On the long run, we plan to establish a build search engine which will include also a filter for professions. –&thinsp;H HHIPPO  &lsaquo;sysop &rsaquo; 12:01, 14 July 2007 (CEST)


 * Wow, this is exactly what I needed. I wasn't just "imagining" checking every page to find my profession's builds... I was doing it.  I was getting frustrated, so I started searching for a way to suggest just a feature!  The main reason I think this is useful is because I'm personally not usually looking for specific builds, just ideas for things that I can use for myself in playing around with secondary professions.  Anyways, I'm now excitedly changing my PvXwiki bookmark to point to the Builds by Profession page, and am very seriously voting for something like this to be on the Main page.  --Qrystal 14:56, 20 July 2007 (CEST)

TYPO On Main Page
You have two sets of featured untested PvE builds or at least it says... one is a typo under pvp builds.
 * Fixed. Thanks for catching it. –&thinsp;H HHIPPO  &lsaquo;sysop &rsaquo; 10:39, 15 July 2007 (CEST)

Discussion
Discussion less than a day old was archived? That makes no sense. - Auron 06:23, 15 July 2007 (CEST)


 * Probably ought rip that one back... --[[Image:User Frvwfr2 signature.jpg|User:Frvwfr2]] frvwfr2  (talk · contributions) 06:25, 15 July 2007 (CEST)


 * It was huge... and annoying. - Skakid9090 07:05, 15 July 2007 (CEST)

He means just the last section. -- <font color=#6e8b3d>frvwfr2  (talk · contributions) 07:10, 15 July 2007 (CEST)

Kurzick/Luxon PvP?
just a little typo...
 * Fixed. (i think) ‽<font color=#C60000>-(єяøηħ)  no u 23:24, 22 July 2007 (CEST)

Submitting builds
Where do I go to propose new builds?--67.67.161.12 01:39, 27 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Have a look at PvXwiki:Style and formatting. –&thinsp;<font color="darkblue" face="times">H HHIPPO  &lsaquo;<font color="blue" size="-2">sysop &rsaquo; 02:13, 27 July 2007 (CEST)

New featured Builds
can someone put in some new featured builds? the untested pvp one, for example, has been vetted for a week or two now. ~ ZamaneeJinn 20:16, 28 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Anyone can. Just follow the link that says "Change current featured builds." - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   06:15, 29 July 2007 (CEST)
 * I don't see that link anywhere on the main page... could someone put it back? or did they put it somewhere new? ~ ZamaneeJinn 06:45, 29 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Template:Featured builds. Link is right beside the featured builds. - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   06:57, 29 July 2007 (CEST)
 * That's the problem. that link isnt showing up for me. i dont see it anywhere. it isnt on the main page. ~ ZamaneeJinn 20:11, 29 July 2007 (CEST)
 * nvm, i get it now. but the link to change the featured builds isnt on the main page (at least my comp doesnt show it) and even though the template has been changed, i dont see the changes on the front page. is this just me, or is the main page messed up? ~ ZamaneeJinn 20:16, 29 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Looks fine on Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer 7. Just to the right of the P/R Condition Spear and the D/Rt Splinter DW at the moment. - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   23:36, 29 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Ok, i'll get mozilla then. stupid vista and IE... ~ ZamaneeJinn 01:18, 30 July 2007 (CEST)

template-pvx
I'm curious. If the wiki can generate a template file from a build, why can't there be a method to use template code to add a build to the wiki? Greevar 17:20, 29 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Special:PvXDecode ‽ -(єяøηħ)  no u 18:38, 29 July 2007 (CEST)

Skill popup boxes problems.
I have a problem seeing the skill details when I am using the build pages, sometimes they mess up to where they have no background and sometimes they don't show up at all. Is anyone else getting this problem? I'll upload an image to show you what it looks like. (you can't see the picture unless you click on the icon.)--Banditda 04:33, 30 July 2007 (CEST)
 * That happens on some browsers. use IE7 or Mozilla Firefox 2, and there shouldnt be problems. ~ ZamaneeJinn 04:38, 30 July 2007 (CEST)
 * ok thanks--Banditda 21:41, 30 July 2007 (CEST)

Not an official Gamewiki
I noticed that on gamewikis.org this isn't listed. You should apply or whatever you have to do to become an official gamewiki.--67.67.161.12 21:36, 31 July 2007 (CEST)
 * meh, we're not like the existing game-wikis, we only document builds. &mdash; RAWR! [[Image:Skasig.jpg|19px]] <font color="#336666">Skakid9090 21:38, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

Zip file archive
You should create a large archived file that consists of every builds posted by wiki at that point. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.214.32.242 (contribs).
 * At what point and for what purpose? [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  06:34, 2 August 2007 (CEST)


 * cuz he said so, duh <font color="#336666">Skakid9090 06:35, 2 August 2007 (CEST)

Template error
hi. every time i try to use a template from thsi site (its only this site that does this) the template does not work. ive tried copy/paste for the template code and downloadng the text file teemplate thing. upon loading in GW it said "this template code appears to be invalid." Fix plz. TehBuG (68.146.198.244)
 * Give me an example of what you've tried to copy/paste.  —ǥȓɩηɔɧ 〚₮/ḉ〛 17:54, 8 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Don't copy and paste the name of the build, only the code. Tycn 15:06, 11 August 2007 (CEST)

featured build
needs to be changed. i dont feel like going to the trouble of changing the build, changing past featured builds, etc. etc.--Chris 23:32, 11 August 2007 (CEST)

Vetting templates
I have protected these. An anon made a one-character edit to Template:Good-Build, User:Mgrinshpon reverted, and servers exploded. It was not pretty. -- Armond Warblade 07:50, 15 August 2007 (CEST)
 * I'm surprised you could fix it. I got SQL errors every link I clicked. Thanks anyways. - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   07:56, 15 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Wait, that happened because some anon added an < in one of the text fields of the template? That was the cause? That's strange... - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   07:59, 15 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Heh, my l33t laptop is working just slightly slower than normal. Consider, however, that the servers are changing and re-changing every page on the wiki that uses that template... This is the reason why we subst signatures and (supposedly) Template:Unsigned. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 08:00, 15 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Good idea to protect them. Changing these templates causes huge server load since the cache is purged for all pages that use them. If anybody sees a need for a change at one of these templates, better make sure that Gcardinal or myself are around, in case the server doesn't recover by itself. –&thinsp;<font color="darkblue" face="times">H HHIPPO  &thinsp;&lsaquo;<font color="blue" size="-2">sysop &rsaquo; 14:44, 15 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Yeah, good idea... I remember when I was getting the Rating link to work... hehe... [[Image:User Frvwfr2 signature.jpg|User:Frvwfr2]] <font color=#6e8b3d>frvwfr2  (T/C/RFA) 16:05, 15 August 2007 (CEST)

IRC channel
I registered the channel #pvx on gamesurge (irc.gamesurge.net). Here's an insta-join button. IRC is a cool place to hang out and chat, with plenty of laughs to be had at everyone else's expense :P Gamesurge also has some other neat channels... #gww is the "unofficial" official wiki channel, #guildwarsguru is the gwg channel, and #gwp, #gwpickup and #gwpug are all PvP-related channels. If you plan on spending time idling with us, you have the option of creating an account on gamesurge so your IP etc isn't available every time you log on. Anyway, join in and have fun chatting! - Auron 15:24, 19 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Wow, you're like a walking advertisement. ~ ZamaneeJinn [[Image:Zealot's Fire.jpg|19px]] (contribs) 18:55, 19 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Inorite? The more the merrier :P - Auron 02:53, 20 August 2007 (CEST)

Updating skills
Skill updates haven't been added to the pop-ups from the PvX build code. Not sure how to change the contents of these popups, if anyone would tell me, I'd be happy implement the changes myself. --Ckal Ktak 00:08, 21 August 2007 (CEST)
 * It's not something that we control. When BBCode gets updated, our skill pop-ups will be updated as well.  [[Image:Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  00:10, 21 August 2007 (CEST)
 * I see, so when it updates it scours the current GuildWiki Build pages and updates them thusly? --Ckal Ktak 00:12, 21 August 2007 (CEST)
 * No, BBCode is done by the people at gwshack, I believe. They have to release an updated version, and then Gcardinal and/or Hhippo has to modify it for PvXwiki's needs. --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me 00:14, 21 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Edru is correct. BBCode is updated by GWShack.  [[Image:Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  00:15, 21 August 2007 (CEST)
 * No ideas as to when that's due then? --Ckal Ktak 00:15, 21 August 2007 (CEST)

Build Help
I made a build and I made it and untested trial build, but i dont' know how to add on the category. so how do i do that?Fire Tock 03:03, 21 August 2007 (CEST)


 * Err, where is it at? [[Image:User Frvwfr2 signature.jpg|User:Frvwfr2]] <font color=#6e8b3d>frvwfr2  (T/C/Sysop) 03:11, 21 August 2007 (CEST)

Type into the search section Build: E/R Ether FLame.Fire Tock 03:12, 21 August 2007 (CEST)

ty vm.Fire Tock 03:13, 21 August 2007 (CEST)

Making a Build
Ok so this sound ubernoobish, but how can i actually start and make a build :S isnt there just like a page that says: write a build and then u get something like attribs and u put that in cause i got a solo shiro at imperial sanctum and i`d like to post it =)
 * The way you make a new build is pretty simple. You start by creating the link, which you can do either by searching for that link and then choosing the option that says "create this page," or, you can add the link to another page, your user page for instance and then follow the subsequently created red link.  In general, the most useful guide to writing the actual page is probably this, but, there's also a section at the bottom of the Main Page entitled Contributing to PvXwiki where you'll find a number of useful links to policies and guides relating submitting builds.  Hope that helps.  [[Image:Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  19:13, 22 August 2007 (CEST)

Icons
OMG WTF NEW ICONS! The Paintballer (T/C) 08:35, 24 August 2007 (CEST)
 * They're prettier ;). Besides which, they make the page look more uniform (i.e. the columns for the "Working" sections are now of the same size as each other).  [[Image:Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  08:38, 24 August 2007 (CEST)
 * They do look quite a bit better, but it was still interesting leaving the page for about 3 minutes, then coming back and seeing a different main page. Now all we need is to get the GW:EN skills working in build templates.  :D  [[Image:GD Defender-Signature.PNG]]| GD Defender  /  contribs 08:41, 24 August 2007 (CEST)
 * GW:EN skills will work when BBCode is updated by GWShack. All we can do is wait.  [[Image:Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  08:42, 24 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Yeah, I just read up the page. u_u  [[Image:GD Defender-Signature.PNG]]| GD Defender  /  contribs 08:42, 24 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Heh. I only edit by section, so I don't pay attention to the rest of the Talk page.  [[Image:Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  08:43, 24 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Same, but I was actually scrolling up on my way to research how to change the build template when I noticed the header. Just happens that it was the exact information I was looking for.  Hope there are late-nighters over there getting ready to release a new version in about fifteen minutes.  <_<;  [[Image:GD Defender-Signature.PNG]]| GD Defender  /  contribs 08:47, 24 August 2007 (CEST)

Apparently Cardinal is planning a new design for the whole site :).   *Defiant Elements*   +talk  08:48, 24 August 2007 (CEST)

Norn fighting Tournament builds?
any idea if this kind of section could be added?


 * We might once GW:EN comes out, but for now, we don't know if they will add more builds or anything. [[Image:User Frvwfr2 signature.jpg|User:Frvwfr2]] <font color=#6e8b3d>frvwfr2  (T/C/Sysop) 16:30, 25 August 2007 (CEST)


 * Only if someone makes a monk build. ;D  —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ  〚 ŞƳŞŌƤ 〛 15:52, 27 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Use the new Elite pet forms. Or go Mo/Rt Spirit Spammer. Asdfg 15:53, 27 August 2007 (CEST)
 * My Mo/R Prepshot tbh. Ibreaktoilets 15:54, 27 August 2007 (CEST)
 * There's a monk build on my user page that I used to get the crown. My friend did a 55/SV build and he said that worked, too. --Wizardboy777 00:03, 28 August 2007 (CEST)
 * We need builds that work for solo occasions, like the Norn tournament, especially against Bison. 132.204.104.171 20:05, 28 August 2007 (CEST)

I'll be running a Siphon Strength assassin with horns of the ox, mending touch and reverse hex &mdash; Skuld 23:49, 28 August 2007 (CEST)

Purging out-dated builds
I was thinking we should have a section on the front page for builds in need of re-evaluation, I recall something similar for the Old Guild Wiki. --Hikari 01:44, 29 August 2007 (CEST)

Help
my buildI made this build and I wanna put it in testing farming but I don't know how :S.--Raps4life 07:16, 20 July 2007 (CEST)

Builds Table
Going to fix it ok. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 21:48, 13 July 2007 (CEST)

Well, did the best I could with my limited coding skills :/. If there are any bugs, feel free to let me know :). If any of the Templates need to be changed, they can all be found here. <font color="Black">Readem (<font color="Red">talk *<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 00:43, 14 July 2007 (CEST)


 * Sorry to make your efforts obsolete, but I found a way to do it with just one template. So the links to featured builds are here and all the rest is directly on the main page. I think that's better than using a whole chain of templates. –&thinsp;<font color="darkblue" face="times">H HHIPPO  &lsaquo;<font color="blue" size="-2">sysop &rsaquo; 01:15, 15 July 2007 (CEST)

Heh.
The anti-builds-wipe site is having a builds wipe? Suddenly I don't feel quite so bad. :) Tanaric 03:04, 14 July 2007 (CEST)
 * We aren't wiping builds, just unfavoured ones. <font color=#ff0000>Napalm Flame  ^_^ [[Image:Napalm_Flame_Sig_Image.JPG‎]] <font color=#0000ff>(talk)·(contributions) 03:06, 14 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Tanaric? Feeling bad? lololgud1 - Auron 08:52, 14 July 2007 (CEST)

Sorting Builds
A way to sort builds by profession would be helpful. Imagine checking every page to find your profession's builds versus clicking one link to find all the builds in one place.
 * Category:Builds by Profession? - Auron 08:52, 14 July 2007 (CEST)

sweet. needs a link on the front page, though. unless i couldn't find it either...


 * I'd propose this instead. Using special pages keeps the lists up to date automatically, while categories rely on users remembering to manually tag each build. Experience with the Campaign categories shows that many builds are not tagged. Btw: On the long run, we plan to establish a build search engine which will include also a filter for professions. –&thinsp;<font color="darkblue" face="times">H HHIPPO  &lsaquo;<font color="blue" size="-2">sysop &rsaquo; 12:01, 14 July 2007 (CEST)


 * Wow, this is exactly what I needed. I wasn't just "imagining" checking every page to find my profession's builds... I was doing it.  I was getting frustrated, so I started searching for a way to suggest just a feature!  The main reason I think this is useful is because I'm personally not usually looking for specific builds, just ideas for things that I can use for myself in playing around with secondary professions.  Anyways, I'm now excitedly changing my PvXwiki bookmark to point to the Builds by Profession page, and am very seriously voting for something like this to be on the Main page.  --Qrystal 14:56, 20 July 2007 (CEST)

TYPO On Main Page
You have two sets of featured untested PvE builds or at least it says... one is a typo under pvp builds.
 * Fixed. Thanks for catching it. –&thinsp;<font color="darkblue" face="times">H HHIPPO  &lsaquo;<font color="blue" size="-2">sysop &rsaquo; 10:39, 15 July 2007 (CEST)

Discussion
Discussion less than a day old was archived? That makes no sense. - Auron 06:23, 15 July 2007 (CEST)


 * Probably ought rip that one back... --[[Image:User Frvwfr2 signature.jpg|User:Frvwfr2]] <font color=#6e8b3d>frvwfr2  (talk · contributions) 06:25, 15 July 2007 (CEST)


 * It was huge... and annoying. - <font color="#336666">Skakid9090 07:05, 15 July 2007 (CEST)

He means just the last section. -- <font color=#6e8b3d>frvwfr2  (talk · contributions) 07:10, 15 July 2007 (CEST)

Kurzick/Luxon PvP?
just a little typo...
 * Fixed. (i think) ‽<font color=#C60000>-(єяøηħ)  no u 23:24, 22 July 2007 (CEST)

Submitting builds
Where do I go to propose new builds?--67.67.161.12 01:39, 27 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Have a look at PvXwiki:Style and formatting. –&thinsp;<font color="darkblue" face="times">H HHIPPO  &lsaquo;<font color="blue" size="-2">sysop &rsaquo; 02:13, 27 July 2007 (CEST)

New featured Builds
can someone put in some new featured builds? the untested pvp one, for example, has been vetted for a week or two now. ~ ZamaneeJinn 20:16, 28 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Anyone can. Just follow the link that says "Change current featured builds." - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   06:15, 29 July 2007 (CEST)
 * I don't see that link anywhere on the main page... could someone put it back? or did they put it somewhere new? ~ ZamaneeJinn 06:45, 29 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Template:Featured builds. Link is right beside the featured builds. - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   06:57, 29 July 2007 (CEST)
 * That's the problem. that link isnt showing up for me. i dont see it anywhere. it isnt on the main page. ~ ZamaneeJinn 20:11, 29 July 2007 (CEST)
 * nvm, i get it now. but the link to change the featured builds isnt on the main page (at least my comp doesnt show it) and even though the template has been changed, i dont see the changes on the front page. is this just me, or is the main page messed up? ~ ZamaneeJinn 20:16, 29 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Looks fine on Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer 7. Just to the right of the P/R Condition Spear and the D/Rt Splinter DW at the moment. - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   23:36, 29 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Ok, i'll get mozilla then. stupid vista and IE... ~ ZamaneeJinn 01:18, 30 July 2007 (CEST)

template-pvx
I'm curious. If the wiki can generate a template file from a build, why can't there be a method to use template code to add a build to the wiki? Greevar 17:20, 29 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Special:PvXDecode ‽ -(єяøηħ)  no u 18:38, 29 July 2007 (CEST)

Skill popup boxes problems.
I have a problem seeing the skill details when I am using the build pages, sometimes they mess up to where they have no background and sometimes they don't show up at all. Is anyone else getting this problem? I'll upload an image to show you what it looks like. (you can't see the picture unless you click on the icon.)--Banditda 04:33, 30 July 2007 (CEST)
 * That happens on some browsers. use IE7 or Mozilla Firefox 2, and there shouldnt be problems. ~ ZamaneeJinn 04:38, 30 July 2007 (CEST)
 * ok thanks--Banditda 21:41, 30 July 2007 (CEST)

Not an official Gamewiki
I noticed that on gamewikis.org this isn't listed. You should apply or whatever you have to do to become an official gamewiki.--67.67.161.12 21:36, 31 July 2007 (CEST)
 * meh, we're not like the existing game-wikis, we only document builds. &mdash; RAWR! [[Image:Skasig.jpg|19px]] <font color="#336666">Skakid9090 21:38, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

Zip file archive
You should create a large archived file that consists of every builds posted by wiki at that point. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.214.32.242 (contribs).
 * At what point and for what purpose? [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  06:34, 2 August 2007 (CEST)


 * cuz he said so, duh <font color="#336666">Skakid9090 06:35, 2 August 2007 (CEST)

Template error
hi. every time i try to use a template from thsi site (its only this site that does this) the template does not work. ive tried copy/paste for the template code and downloadng the text file teemplate thing. upon loading in GW it said "this template code appears to be invalid." Fix plz. TehBuG (68.146.198.244)
 * Give me an example of what you've tried to copy/paste.  —ǥȓɩηɔɧ 〚₮/ḉ〛 17:54, 8 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Don't copy and paste the name of the build, only the code. Tycn 15:06, 11 August 2007 (CEST)

featured build
needs to be changed. i dont feel like going to the trouble of changing the build, changing past featured builds, etc. etc.--Chris 23:32, 11 August 2007 (CEST)

Vetting templates
I have protected these. An anon made a one-character edit to Template:Good-Build, User:Mgrinshpon reverted, and servers exploded. It was not pretty. -- Armond Warblade 07:50, 15 August 2007 (CEST)
 * I'm surprised you could fix it. I got SQL errors every link I clicked. Thanks anyways. - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   07:56, 15 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Wait, that happened because some anon added an < in one of the text fields of the template? That was the cause? That's strange... - [[Image:Kowal.jpg|15px]] <font face="dauphin" color="maroon">Krowman   07:59, 15 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Heh, my l33t laptop is working just slightly slower than normal. Consider, however, that the servers are changing and re-changing every page on the wiki that uses that template... This is the reason why we subst signatures and (supposedly) Template:Unsigned. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 08:00, 15 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Good idea to protect them. Changing these templates causes huge server load since the cache is purged for all pages that use them. If anybody sees a need for a change at one of these templates, better make sure that Gcardinal or myself are around, in case the server doesn't recover by itself. –&thinsp;<font color="darkblue" face="times">H HHIPPO  &thinsp;&lsaquo;<font color="blue" size="-2">sysop &rsaquo; 14:44, 15 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Yeah, good idea... I remember when I was getting the Rating link to work... hehe... [[Image:User Frvwfr2 signature.jpg|User:Frvwfr2]] <font color=#6e8b3d>frvwfr2  (T/C/RFA) 16:05, 15 August 2007 (CEST)

IRC channel
I registered the channel #pvx on gamesurge (irc.gamesurge.net). Here's an insta-join button. IRC is a cool place to hang out and chat, with plenty of laughs to be had at everyone else's expense :P Gamesurge also has some other neat channels... #gww is the "unofficial" official wiki channel, #guildwarsguru is the gwg channel, and #gwp, #gwpickup and #gwpug are all PvP-related channels. If you plan on spending time idling with us, you have the option of creating an account on gamesurge so your IP etc isn't available every time you log on. Anyway, join in and have fun chatting! - Auron 15:24, 19 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Wow, you're like a walking advertisement. ~ ZamaneeJinn [[Image:Zealot's Fire.jpg|19px]] (contribs) 18:55, 19 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Inorite? The more the merrier :P - Auron 02:53, 20 August 2007 (CEST)

Updating skills
Skill updates haven't been added to the pop-ups from the PvX build code. Not sure how to change the contents of these popups, if anyone would tell me, I'd be happy implement the changes myself. --Ckal Ktak 00:08, 21 August 2007 (CEST)
 * It's not something that we control. When BBCode gets updated, our skill pop-ups will be updated as well.  [[Image:Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  00:10, 21 August 2007 (CEST)
 * I see, so when it updates it scours the current GuildWiki Build pages and updates them thusly? --Ckal Ktak 00:12, 21 August 2007 (CEST)
 * No, BBCode is done by the people at gwshack, I believe. They have to release an updated version, and then Gcardinal and/or Hhippo has to modify it for PvXwiki's needs. --<font color="Black">Edru viransu //<font color="Red">QQ about me 00:14, 21 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Edru is correct. BBCode is updated by GWShack.  [[Image:Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  00:15, 21 August 2007 (CEST)
 * No ideas as to when that's due then? --Ckal Ktak 00:15, 21 August 2007 (CEST)

Build Help
I made a build and I made it and untested trial build, but i dont' know how to add on the category. so how do i do that?Fire Tock 03:03, 21 August 2007 (CEST)


 * Err, where is it at? [[Image:User Frvwfr2 signature.jpg|User:Frvwfr2]] <font color=#6e8b3d>frvwfr2  (T/C/Sysop) 03:11, 21 August 2007 (CEST)

Type into the search section Build: E/R Ether FLame.Fire Tock 03:12, 21 August 2007 (CEST)

ty vm.Fire Tock 03:13, 21 August 2007 (CEST)

Making a Build
Ok so this sound ubernoobish, but how can i actually start and make a build :S isnt there just like a page that says: write a build and then u get something like attribs and u put that in cause i got a solo shiro at imperial sanctum and i`d like to post it =)
 * The way you make a new build is pretty simple. You start by creating the link, which you can do either by searching for that link and then choosing the option that says "create this page," or, you can add the link to another page, your user page for instance and then follow the subsequently created red link.  In general, the most useful guide to writing the actual page is probably this, but, there's also a section at the bottom of the Main Page entitled Contributing to PvXwiki where you'll find a number of useful links to policies and guides relating submitting builds.  Hope that helps.  [[Image:Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  19:13, 22 August 2007 (CEST)

Icons
OMG WTF NEW ICONS! The Paintballer (T/C) 08:35, 24 August 2007 (CEST)
 * They're prettier ;). Besides which, they make the page look more uniform (i.e. the columns for the "Working" sections are now of the same size as each other).  [[Image:Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  08:38, 24 August 2007 (CEST)
 * They do look quite a bit better, but it was still interesting leaving the page for about 3 minutes, then coming back and seeing a different main page. Now all we need is to get the GW:EN skills working in build templates.  :D  [[Image:GD Defender-Signature.PNG]]| GD Defender  /  contribs 08:41, 24 August 2007 (CEST)
 * GW:EN skills will work when BBCode is updated by GWShack. All we can do is wait.  [[Image:Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  08:42, 24 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Yeah, I just read up the page. u_u  [[Image:GD Defender-Signature.PNG]]| GD Defender  /  contribs 08:42, 24 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Heh. I only edit by section, so I don't pay attention to the rest of the Talk page.  [[Image:Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  08:43, 24 August 2007 (CEST)
 * Same, but I was actually scrolling up on my way to research how to change the build template when I noticed the header. Just happens that it was the exact information I was looking for.  Hope there are late-nighters over there getting ready to release a new version in about fifteen minutes.  <_<;  [[Image:GD Defender-Signature.PNG]]| GD Defender  /  contribs 08:47, 24 August 2007 (CEST)

Apparently Cardinal is planning a new design for the whole site :).   *Defiant Elements*   +talk  08:48, 24 August 2007 (CEST)