Archive talk:N/E Soul Bind Necromancer

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-- Guild of  Deals  08:12, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Wastrels Worry is hilarious with soul bind. Rawrawr  08:15, 22 March 2008 (EDT)


 * I should've though of that... I was thinking of moving to a Me/N anyway, SB can still be maintained. --[[image:GoD Sig3.jpg|20px]] Guild of  Deals  08:16, 22 March 2008 (EDT)

Also, reckless sucks, Faint owns. And try to work grasping in there somewhere, its lulz. Rawrawr 08:16, 22 March 2008 (EDT)

? -- Guild of  Deals  08:17, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Needs price for ranger. Rawrawr  08:18, 22 March 2008 (EDT)

BTW, you could just use Soul Bind on Rangers... -- Guild of  Deals  08:20, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Defile is better cover. Gl getting a second 2s cast hex off against a ranger even when he's priced. Rawrawr  08:23, 22 March 2008 (EDT)


 * Personally I like it the way it is then. Just Reckless/PoF the Ranger and you can Soul Bind the other. --[[image:GoD Sig3.jpg|20px]] Guild of  Deals  10:21, 22 March 2008 (EDT)

WTF we're my build go????? That Twin Tom 16:47, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

There was an almost identical (and slightly better) build in stubs when you made this. you realy should check first. However that was deleted becuase you got this to trial before the original. Shame on you Guild of deals copying! ( the other was made about a week earlier then this pops up, coincedence i think not!) you even copied the name...*tut tut tut*Howe304 16:51, 28 March 2008 (EDT)


 * O.M.F.G. This was made March 20th. Your brothers was made March 21st. Anyway, his was moved to . --[[image:GoD Sig3.jpg|20px]] Guild of  Deals  16:52, 28 March 2008 (EDT)
 * wow i thought they deleted it.[[Image: Faintheartedness.jpg|19px]]Howe304  16:55, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

actualy u made this on 22nd. other on 21st i checked the history, my mistake was made on 20th coincedence...probably. Howe304 16:57, 28 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Err... I made this on the 20th of March, 2008. Check History. --[[image:GoD Sig3.jpg|20px]] Guild of  Deals  17:01, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

Add faint instead reckless, they had price and faint on some other great build.--Relyk 20:03, 13 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Omg nvm, soul bind--Relyk 20:09, 13 April 2008 (EDT)

Wastrels worry
add it! &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Howe304 (contribs) 16:53, 28 March 2008.


 * And kill my energy? nty. --[[image:GoD Sig3.jpg|20px]] Guild of  Deals  16:53, 28 March 2008 (EDT)
 * dont have to spam, its just gives extra damage.[[Image: Faintheartedness.jpg|19px]]Howe304  16:55, 28 March 2008 (EDT)


 * Go mes primary if you really wanna use Soul Bind to it's full power, you want teh spam hexes with WW and PB fast cast. Other than that, just run a normal elite on a necro. [[Image:mightymouse.gif|25px]] moush$2+2=4$ 05:00, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

testing
i put it into testing ti seemed rdy  That  Twin   Tom  16:07, 13 April 2008 (EDT)

NEW SOUL BIND
This imo is better now, since it already has a cover hex in parastic, great pressure on monks with 3 warrior front liners going about. / Fros  T  alk  \ 18:01, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
 * It's still just an elite Scourage Healing. I'll archive. --Guild of Deals * Wah Wah  Wah! * 18:12, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

Um, no, this shouldn't be archived. Soul Bind is amazing now. Zuranthium 18:37, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Actually, it does the same damage as scourge, but is an Elite, only dif is casting time -_- / Fros  T  alk  \ 18:38, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
 * And being in a good attribute line. Lord of all tyria 18:40, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
 * The cast time and attribute line make a complete world of difference. Zuranthium 18:44, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Vote wipe? ~ ĐONT * TALK  18:44, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Soul Bind and Scourge Healing's damages are pretty much the same with higher ranks. The only difference is Casting Time. Archival imo. -Mike 18:54, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
 * 1s cast is a huge difference. So is the fact its in curses; noone would run smite just for scourge healing in a hex build (which is basically the only place you would run this) &mdash;The preceding awesome-sauce comment was added by Rawr. 18:57, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Listen to zurrie, he's damn right. This owns faces pretty hard now. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  05:44, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

Now that Soul Bind isn't anti-melee, you're going to need something besides Reckless Haste and Price of Failure in this meta. Maybe bring Enfeeble or Enfeebling Blood somewhere... I dunno. - RichmanPoorman 01:10, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

The difference between Soul Bind and Scourge Healing is that with Soul Bind you can have an usefull bar Drownz 20:40, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Or you could save your Elite and make something decent out of Smiting Prayers like Smite Hex, Reversal of Damage, Smite Condition, Strength of Honor, and such. -Mike 21:22, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Anyone know why Scourge wan't run on all the signet mesmers who specced heavily into smiting? because it is a pointless skill, so Is this / Fros  T  alk  \ 21:24, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Scourage is just a bad anti-Monk hex. You could just shut them down with something like Diversion. I don't know if I'm just bad (which I probably am) but I don't see why Soul Bind is sex on a stick. Scourage wasn't even that good (even if they did decrease casting time and such), and Soul Bind is like an elite Necromancer version of it. --Guild of Deals * Wah Wah  Wah! * 21:26, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

No reason to run this over, any necro curses elite tbh / Fros  T  alk  \ 21:27, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
 * And Soul Bind was actually a good skill. >.> -Mike 21:44, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
 * New soul biond is good in TA, when there is less targets and you can easily keep it on everyone. --Thc 21:49, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Not really, Soul Bind shines when someone uses Heal Party. Not much of that going on in TA. [[Image:mightymouse.gif|25px]] moush  06:30, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
 * [Glad] ran this:

Probably just for lols tbh / Fros  T  alk  \ 01:27, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

WoD > Soul Bind. Anybody care to agree?  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ  16:35, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I agree. Soul Bind is just an elite version of Scourage Healing that doesn't even stack with it. It's a bad anti-Monk Hex, really, compared to other things. TBH, old Soul Bind was better. --Guild of Deals * Wah Wah  Wah! * 16:37, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

WoD = "zomg you're protting/healing for shit", while soul bind "is zomg you get some damage, but our spike/attack still is protted against/outhealed". Ups.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ  16:42, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Eh, as Skakid's vote says, good in Hexway (I wasn't looking at the party healing aspect). Still, it's only elite Scourage Healing. --Guild of Deals * Wah Wah  Wah! * 16:44, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I just don't like the new Soul Bind, not just because it's an Elite version of Scourge Healing, but because it's just a meh Elite. To adress the removal of my rating: more examples using convenience of Attribute for your Elite (without a secondary profession determined) would be taking Mirror of Ice when there's Hex Breaker and Reversal of Damage, Seeping Wound when there's Vile Miasma, "Charge!" when you've got "Fall Back!" or Cleave when you've got 3 Signets on your bar and access to Symbolic Strike. Soul Bind was good, tbh. -Mike 16:44, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I guess in Hexway it could replace SS, although I don't see how it ever does more damage.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 16:46, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Heal Party --Guild of Deals<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 16:47, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Hmyeah, point taken... SS is still better though, I think.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 16:48, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Actually, I'm reading it wrong. Sorry. If you maintain on a bunch of people, it's good. --Guild of Deals<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 16:49, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
 * If they made it 5e it would be fucking awesome, but maintaining a 10e hex on a party is much too costly.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 16:50, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Scourge Healing is 10... if they made sb 5e that would be gayness in a bag...--[[Image:Relyk Purifying Veil Sig.jpg|19px]]<font color="99CCFF">R ELYK   <font color="CCCCFF">ʞlɐʇ ʎɯ  21:35, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Scourge healing is 2 second cast and must-spec into smiting(which is useless). Pretty huge difference tbh. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  09:26, 18 June 2008 (EDT)

Sorry, I missed the memo that said that Smiting Prayers was overpowered. &mdash; Rapta   (talk|contribs) 00:40, 19 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Haven't you heard of this skill "Ray of Judgment"? It owns GW!  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 02:02, 19 June 2008 (EDT)

This actually works pretty hawt besides hexway, too. —ǘŋ Ɛxɩsƫ  09:44, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

Not much to do with this build, but the tag for this skill is fucked. When you mouse over it it still gives the old description24.118.199.248 23:43, 22 June 2008 (EDT)
 * From AN: Please do not leave posts about skills not being up to date, we don't change the descriptions. ~ <font color="#444">ĐONT <font color="#444">* <font color="#444">TALK  06:49, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

TA
Did this yesterday with something like this in our team too. Soul Bind on the entire team is pretty fun. Add tag? - Star Seeker  |  My talk  11:56, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Don't see why you would run this over WoD unless your team has a lot of hexes. [[Image:mightymouse.gif|25px]] moush 19:42, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * That's the point though, we had a Sould Bind and a WoD. - Star Seeker  |  My talk  05:27, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
 * I know something better for TA (posting) plus did you know SB triggers twice on WoH if it hits the 50% hp breakpoint? Pretty scary when someone used WoH on someone below 50% health then Mending Touch (that triggers it twice as well).  Frosty  No U!  22:02, 24 July 2008 (EDT)

mmm...

RA
Why does this have no RA tag. SB is gud for arenas imo --Melvelet 12:01, 26 December 2008 (EST)
 * More than half of the teams you run against won't have Monks (or some kind of Healer), meaning more than half of the time, your Elite will be near useless, tbh. Soul Bind is used in GvG, though, but this isn't tagged for it. =/ ــмıкε  нaшк  12:09, 26 December 2008 (EST)