Archive talk:Team - HA Dual Hexpressure

This build is already leet. Keep the Searing Flames ele....Searing Flames in this build>Mb It spreads more and its 15e instead of rods 25 and then you can add glyph for heal party, like whoever updated it did. 2 monk backline is fine and keep humility. This build is easy to run. Im from [mini] we run that much pressure tbh. --Readem 18:12, 20 February 2008 (EST)this all the time. Great potetial in 1v1 and works exetremely well in halls...and ps SS is the key to this build and with the anti meelee presssure you only need 2 monk backline. -[Mini] Officer.

Needs Aura of Stability. --71.229 17:08, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * mmm but where =o Infested  Hydralisk  [[image:InfestedHydralisk_sig.jpg|19px]] ( Talk * Contributions ) 17:12, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * I know where! Get rid of the SS necro and bring a woh hybrid, then switch your infuser to HB. Then you've got a leet build.--Goldenstar 18:20, 23 January 2008 (EST)

take out gift of health on your rc monk. 12 prot-11 divine-6 channeling. put aura of stability on the now empty spot. also, your mind blaster needs to be fixed. aoe spells without a good water snarer really fail. meteor and mark of rodgorts (burn spam and cover hex) can replace both aoe spells. replace vocal minority with suffering on your ss bar, and change ss for corrupt enchantments.also change parasitic for defile defenses. it is a decent cover hex and (with all the hexes i suggested bringing, cover hexes arent needed as much. your warrior may also call for it on blocking targets for a nice surge of dmg. and im sure theirs more, but im tired. just my say. your mesmer bars look good, but i wouldnt bring signet of humility. you can't keep it up, and who cares if he casts an ele, your goal is for interupting it. --70.237.14.100 04:04, 24 January 2008 (EST)


 * Bring a Water Ele or something along with a SH Ele (or just a SH Ele w/ Deep Freeze). Snares are good, and this build really doesn't have any. --[[image:GoD Sig3.jpg|20px]] Guild of  Deals  12:34, 26 January 2008 (EST)


 * look again plx k thx Infested  Hydralisk  [[image:InfestedHydralisk_sig.jpg|19px]] ( Talk * Contributions ) 13:34, 26 January 2008 (EST)

why have a discussion if you dont listen? Grasping earth just isnt a good enough snare to be used with any aoe. sh ele and snare would infact work better. (replacing the ss necro) --71.139.246.150 17:02, 27 January 2008 (EST)
 * 2 AoE eles isn't hex pressure. &mdash;  Skadiddly [슴Mc슴] Diddles  17:04, 27 January 2008 (EST)
 * yah, the reason the MB/IV ele is here is for extra damage with the pressure, aswell as it can run relics Infested  Hydralisk  [[image:InfestedHydralisk_sig.jpg|19px]] ( Talk * Contributions ) 17:12, 27 January 2008 (EST)

Needs more Mantra of Inscriptions on the mesmers. Dunno what to drop though :< - Star Seeker  |  My talk  15:41, 30 January 2008 (EST)
 * nah dont rly need MoI imo Infested  Hydralisk  [[image:InfestedHydralisk_sig.jpg|19px]] ( Talk * Contributions ) 17:31, 30 January 2008 (EST)
 * SoH+MoI=God. - Star Seeker  |  My talk  10:46, 31 January 2008 (EST)
 * yes but the mesmers r more for the interupting then disabling there elite skill Infested  Hydralisk  [[image:InfestedHydralisk_sig.jpg|19px]] ( Talk * Contributions ) 11:57, 31 January 2008 (EST)
 * You can also use Leech more often..? - Star Seeker  |  My talk  15:26, 31 January 2008 (EST)
 * have a 5 sec recharge interupt skill? Infested  Hydralisk  [[image:InfestedHydralisk_sig.jpg|19px]] ( Talk * Contributions ) 15:53, 31 January 2008 (EST)
 * Ehm... Then you got more energy to fuel it. :D - Star Seeker  |  My talk  16:32, 31 January 2008 (EST)
 * leech sig + inspired is ur fuel ^^ Infested  Hydralisk  [[image:InfestedHydralisk_sig.jpg|19px]] ( Talk * Contributions ) 16:37, 31 January 2008 (EST)


 * 2 Monk backlines fail in HA due to the massive amount of overly gimmick builds. [[Image:Shield_of_Deflection.jpg|19px]] Hide-And-Seek 17:03, 31 January 2008 (EST)
 * true on that, need some suggestions tho Infested  Hydralisk  [[image:InfestedHydralisk_sig.jpg|19px]] ( Talk * Contributions ) 17:29, 31 January 2008 (EST)

the 2 monk backline is fine. everything is fine except you should replace signet of humility with power drain. I run my migraine mesmers with that, id rather interupt their elites every time than diable it 50% of the time. Power drain provides another interrupt and more energy. Also, the necro bar needs work. Well of silence AND Vocal Minority? Whats the point of both? Expecially after the recent nerf of Fear Me!--71.130.236.194 18:36, 31 January 2008 (EST)
 * If you are taking the ss, consider taking suffering, does more pressure then parasitic bond imo Frantic 07:57, 14 February 2008 (EST)
 * parasitic bond is a cheap spammable cover hex tbh, suffering costs alot -- Infested Hydralisk  [[image:InfestedHydralisk_sig.jpg|19px]] ( Talk * Contributions ) 10:08, 14 February 2008 (EST)

WoH Infuser
Benefits much more from patient spirit than orison. If you're not using an HB, the healing power and casting time of patient spirit makes it much better than orison.--Goldenstar 19:43, 12 February 2008 (EST)
 * yah i forgot about patient spirit lol i fail but ska fixed it now =) -- Infested Hydralisk  [[image:InfestedHydralisk_sig.jpg|19px]] ( Talk * Contributions ) 07:17, 13 February 2008 (EST)
 * So why not use an hb again? I mean it's not like this build alrdy has partyheals.I Heal If U Shutup 17:39, 17 April 2008 (EDT)

Flaws
lolol, no leech or CoF on either mesmer. HB is way better in a two monk backline. I don't suggest running death pact in HA. Also, how do you kill shit? One sin is really not that much pressure tbh. Arem is used on Weary callers. It pretty much has no point in this build. --Readem 18:12, 20 February 2008 (EST)
 * DPS ownz HA, the degen pressure (lol) tends to kill over time, this a slow yet moderately effective builds. Arem is also an enchantment for GFS &mdash;  Skadiddly [슴Mc슴] Diddles  22:03, 21 February 2008 (EST)
 * Dual migraine isn't terribly effective at all nowawdays. You're monks will always have a veil up, and considering the mesmers only have one enchant removal each, they won't ALWAYS be able to use it to grab veil, meaning getting migraine on and keeping it there is pretty difficult. The massive proliferation of spotless mind since GWEN kills this too, not to mention that tons of balanced bars run a convert in their lineup somewhere. Having power drain as your only means of interrupt besides PR is lolable, considering the last thing you want to do is fuel the energy of enemy monks. Migraine isn't all that effective in the current meta anyway, considering it does jack shit against an RC/prot, and against the standard HB meta it simply ups the casting time from .5s to 1s. Big freaking deal. Hexway simply isn't all that effective.--Goldenstar 22:08, 21 February 2008 (EST)
 * Ever play against a decent hexway (lol paradox) &mdash;  Skadiddly [슴Mc슴] Diddles  22:13, 21 February 2008 (EST)
 * Exactly, there is no decent hexway, it's way too easy to beat. Also, running a woh infuser in HA is lols, HB/infuse beats it by a mile, especially for a two monk backline.--Goldenstar 22:14, 21 February 2008 (EST)
 * Oh, and how the hell does this run relics, now that SDH/FDH have been nerfed?--Goldenstar 22:15, 21 February 2008 (EST)
 * What's even more lol is i just realised the snare and the runner are the same person, this build is epic fail, even for hexway.
 * fixed some stuff nowz -- Infested Hydralisk  [[image:InfestedHydralisk_sig.jpg|19px]] ( Talk * Contributions ) 08:35, 22 February 2008 (EST)
 * The point is with hexway, if you keep migraine at the hb the pressure will become to high at a certain point, and they'll roll you. Rc hasn't got any type of heal against degen(people don't take gift anymore on him nowadays). Even with veil on, if they get your migraine on you once they'll make sure you won't get a veil through(2,5 sec cast time without halves casting time set lolol). You guys underrate this too badly. I agree with the bad bars, tho. Needs mind blast instead of sf or your hp will be useless, and hb instead of woh. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  10:11, 22 February 2008 (EST)

Does migraine stack with daze? Would be funny, using charm animal lol. Frans  09:00, 22 February 2008 (EST)
 * lol? migraine and daze dont even affect charm animal....and whos capping pets in HA anyway lol? -- Infested Hydralisk  [[image:InfestedHydralisk_sig.jpg|19px]] ( Talk * Contributions ) 09:35, 22 February 2008 (EST)
 * Frans, the point is, when you daze you don't need migraine. Vice-versa also(altho daze > migraine, but daze is alot harder to get on a target). —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  10:14, 22 February 2008 (EST)
 * and can get removed easyer since its a condition -- Infested Hydralisk  [[image:InfestedHydralisk_sig.jpg|19px]] ( Talk * Contributions ) 10:22, 22 February 2008 (EST)