Archive talk:P/W Soldier's Fury Sword

obaby! &mdash;  Skakid  17:20, 22 June 2008 (EDT)


 * Regardless, people will trash based purely on the fact it has Soldier's Fury. It's rather overlooked, however. --Guild of Deals * Wah Wah  Wah! * 17:22, 22 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Skakid In Wonderland Oh [Baby]. --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]Tab  Moo  17:33, 22 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I said that the otherday GoD, everyone just lol'd at me... / Fros  T  alk  \ 17:33, 22 June 2008 (EDT)


 * Epic Cute Piplups Pi[plup] &mdash;  Skakid  17:35, 22 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Piplup Used Water [Gun]. If Piplup learns Water Gun, I don't really keep track of these stupid ass Pokemon. --Guild of Deals * Wah Wah  Wah! * 17:41, 22 June 2008 (EDT)
 * lol this (all though strange) is pretty good, Bleeding, DW, 33%IAS, 25%IMS, Daze. Maybe if people change their views, this would be good. / Fros  T  alk  \ 18:41, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

I am not changing my opinion about this build. The first time I saw it, it looked great. I dont know why people think this is bad. Please let me know it.

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Cleaned it up a bit, plus Bull's would work nice here with constant IMS. / Fros  T  alk  \ 04:35, 25 June 2008 (EDT)


 * the build is inferior to cripslash war. Huynh Sanity 05:07, 25 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Diffrent playstyles, uncomparable. Brandnew.  05:11, 25 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Cripslash, although it has cripple, doesn't have consta IMS, IAS. / Fros  T  alk  \ 05:20, 25 June 2008 (EDT)
 * With a certain amount of time given you can get more done with cripslash then you can with this build.Huynh Sanity 15:58, 25 June 2008 (EDT)
 * You'll need a Spear (preferably Silencing) for Spear Swipe. ــмıкε  нaшк  22:03, 5 July 2008 (EDT)
 * ^ stupid to switch set just for that though ;o God  box    07:32, 6 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Bull's Strike? You have constant IMS anyway. / Fros  T  alk  \ 07:33, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

I'm just waiting to see the 5-5-5's come up when some random top guild runs this in some random retarded/broken team build in the next MAT. &mdash; Rapta   (talk|contribs) 20:14, 6 July 2008 (EDT)
 * [Baby], with Dunkoro, beat some guild in the Swiss with 2 of these as frontliners. &mdash;  Skakid  20:15, 6 July 2008 (EDT)
 * It wasn't just dunkoro, it was rau's dunkoro. He must have used magic at him to make him a uberbot. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  16:37, 3 October 2008 (EDT)

For the lulz
Try Aggressive Refrain/another IAS+Focused Anger+"For Great Justice!" for epic Sun and Moon Slash spam. XD ــмıкε  нaшк  20:17, 6 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Cracked Armour on a frontliner is bad. Selket Shadowdancer 20:18, 6 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Use Frenzy. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 20:19, 6 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Would have to drop Barbarous Slice and would need a cancel stance. Selket Shadowdancer 20:21, 6 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Or you could always take extra condition removal (Foul Feast+Plague Sending would be good.) I tried something like that in RA (I know, RA ~.~), and pwnt a Monk or two with it, but that combo is a pain to use. Frenzy+Rush works pretty well, though. ــмıкε  нaшк  20:23, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

This + damage buffs is pretty awesome, I think. SoH and Orders etc would make this deal awesome damage.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ  16:08, 7 July 2008 (EDT)


 * No one would run Orders in higher end PvP, or most PvP for that matter. Maybe pre-nerf Splinter and definately SoH. Or just with SoH it works. Well, any type of melee + IAS + SoH = generically good. --[[Image:GoD Wario Sig.PNG]] * Wah Wah  Wah! * 16:10, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
 * People use Orders flaggers, fyi.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 16:11, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
 * is just about it, because saccing with 60AL is baed in PvP. ــмıкε  нaшк  16:15, 7 July 2008 (EDT)


 * Meh, nobody uses those because they can't defend for shit. &mdash;  Skakid  16:16, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Well, they can heal themselves decently, and can take Windwalker's Insignia for 90 AL. If you were to run an Orders Flagger with these as frontliners, then you should definitely use Focused Anger so that you can spam Sun and Moon Slash under Order of Pain and Strength of Honor for wtfpressure and domages. That would be about 48 additional damage (separated into two packets) on top of base damage, which is pretty even with D-Slash for DPS, but is also unblockable. I tried a similar concept with Infuriating Heat and Warriors instead of Paragons, but IH sucks and only doubles damage from attack and not effects like D-Slash or Dark Fury. ــмıкε  нaшк  16:36, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
 * My guess is that it would translate into roughly 100 DPS, and that's from one frontlining Paragon (under a bunch of buffs, of course.) Now that would be Paraway. =P ــмıкε  нaшк  16:39, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Focused Anger would gimp this build quite a lot. Dark Fury is more than enough to make SamS spammable.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 16:39, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

Paragons with Swords
Hawt, tbh. All about the posture, and holding the sword up beside their faces. XD Now, I have to get a bunch of Swords for my PvE Paragon, though. >.> ــмıкε  нaшк  23:54, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

ADMIN REQUEST
Soldiers Fury makes this alot better.. Moar adrenalline = more pressure even its just 33% it's Kind of A Big Deal. Massive  07:41, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

Blazing Finale
Why do I never see blazing finale on these meelee paragon builds? It would seem an obvious choice to me. Before "Watch Yourself!" got changed I'd run a blazing finale/they're on fire and be able to keep up constant burning.