Archive talk:E/Rt Splinter Shackles

Put res in main bar. People--Goldenstar 22:22, 5 April 2008 (EDT) will just go "No Res" and not see it. Then just put like "For AB/CM, add Flare and Mending" or what not. -- Guild of  Deals  16:16, 30 March 2008 (EDT)


 * Lol flare and mending. Almost as good as Wastrel's collapse.X [[Image:Crossfire Godlysig.png|19px]] 14  16:22, 30 March 2008 (EDT)


 * WTF WASTREL'S COLLAPSE PWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE NUB!!! Anyway, I made it look better. Consider Death Pact Signet or FoMF. --[[image:GoD Sig3.jpg|20px]] Guild of  Deals  16:24, 30 March 2008 (EDT)

Also, less RA/TA tag. Splinter is near worthless there. -- Guild of  Deals  16:25, 30 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Instead of deleting the tags, we might say swap Splinter for Warmonger, instead of Splinter for something else, it would work at least in RA --Rimo 09:16, 15 April 2008 (EDT)


 * Fomf is good.X [[Image:Crossfire Godlysig.png|19px]] 14 16:28, 30 March 2008 (EDT)

Save for Freezing Gust, diff Rez, and WaH, is this. Is this really needed? - Generic Wiki-er  20:51, 30 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Thats HA and diff elite.X [[Image:Crossfire Godlysig.png|19px]] 14 20:58, 30 March 2008 (EDT)
 * This is categorized too under HA. But w/e, comment retracted, diff enough I guess. - [[Image:GenericWikier1.jpg|19px]] Generic Wiki-er  21:05, 30 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Lulz, WT fails in the ha-meta. WT is all about kd'ing the runner, kd'ing monks doesn't help since channeling makes them not move at all(and overheal). Harm is very superior to it there. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  11:53, 5 April 2008 (EDT)

Idk why mine was deleted when i made this same exact build, but oh well.--Relyk 07:57, 31 March 2008 (EDT)
 * I'm wondering that myself. How on earth did it get trashed, your version just had freezing gust instead of blurred. One skill isn't enough to warrant such a difference in voting :/ - Auron 03:34, 3 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Its a simple Solution... PMS. Yes PMS, the users here on pvx are PMSing at every build that comes their way.  Then all of the sudden PMS is over and ppl vote build normally now.  A message to all PVX users.  Wait 3...5 days before voting every month.  (Especially you Guild of Deals)--X [[Image:Crossfire Godlysig.png|19px]] 14  07:07, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

Okay, wait, we archived the B-Surge Splinter ele, but this is marked as great? Shouldn't this get WELLed for the same reason the Bsurger got archived (nerfs to Splinter and AR)?

I concur. Ancestor's Rage is so weak when specced to lvl 10. Ice Spikes would be a comparable addition to the spike. Might as well keep these skills on your flagger in GvG or on a Glaive/OoS Ritualist in HA. Derek The Lash 12:31, 15 April 2008 (EDT)

For RA
TBH everything works in RA. I already posted to replace Splinter with somthing else for RA.X 14  20:46, 30 March 2008 (EDT)
 * I pwn them nooby Exiscerate shock axe wars wif my Trident.X [[Image:Crossfire Godlysig.png|19px]] 14 21:06, 30 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Everything works in RA, that doesn't mean every build should be tagged for RA. All builds aren't great in RA. God  box   12:09, 5 April 2008 (EDT)

Get rid of the HA tag
There's no room in a balanced HA bar for this. Not enough snare to make worth taking, an OoS or Glaive rit can a-rage and splinter better than this, and carry earth snares than make it much more useful than this would ever be.;Good support in GvG when needed.
 * Splinter is very good, and the other skills can support your team and devistate the other. You protect your back/midline, and you supprt your frontline. Awesome!

Rw
Icy Shackles. Then it would be better. -- Guild of  Deals  08:39, 6 April 2008 (EDT)


 * Why?--X [[Image:Crossfire Godlysig.png|19px]] 14 09:11, 6 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Because Icy Shackles is better. --[[image:GoD Sig3.jpg|20px]] Guild of  Deals  09:15, 6 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Trident isnt why?--X [[Image:Crossfire Godlysig.png|19px]] 14 09:20, 6 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Aura, and trident can be avoided. Burst is also useless if they're away from you, so you need to get close first(=shackles). Shackles is better in this situation. Also, i'd suppose this should be for gvg-only dual-ele build-mesmer midline. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  13:24, 6 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Is Ice Spikes needed? Ancestors' Rage is still gud too. Unexist is adamant about the WT countered by AoS meta, so ne1 argue with Unexist.--Relyk 11:38, 7 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Went ahead and did a little rewrite.--Relyk 11:53, 7 April 2008 (EDT)

repeat
wasn't this already posted?
 * Kinda. This one's different enough to keep if it gets vetted imo. --71.229 23:33, 14 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Yea, i cant see why this wont get at least something like 3.5. It has been run for a long time in HA and GvG. So...yea.--204.10.221.253 07:43, 15 April 2008 (EDT)
 * The point of that build is a flagger, this one is a 2nd snare ele for dual frontline(generally trees or tree + axe), mesmer and dual ele(bsurge + this). It's not strong offense, but it's defense is near unbeatable and it has a fine spike. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  12:11, 15 April 2008 (EDT)

AB
Replace Flesh of my Flesh for Deep Freeze ?!? -Agrippa 09:30, 15 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Sure why not. RA btw, it can work, just replace splinter weapon with somthing else as said on the page.--X [[Image:Crossfire Godlysig.png|19px]] 14  09:32, 15 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Agree, and tried as well, I just think it works better in the other PvP areas. -Agrippa 09:34, 15 April 2008 (EDT)

Since nerfs
No ele would run this... Archive tbh  Frosty  No U!  04:13, 10 July 2008 (EDT)
 * What nerf?--[[Image:Crossfire's Signature.JPG]] 09:14, 10 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Splinter Weapon, Ancestor's rage...  Frosty  No U!  09:15, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

yes archive.. if u ever gonna use splinter and AR you need 13++ like the CC runners who is the only tbh which can use em Massive   17:58, 23 July 2008 (EDT)