Archive talk:Team - HA Fragway

If you cant beat it, join it rite frosty? :> -- Steamy .. x 16:20, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks good i guess, i don't do HA alot but it looks good to me. --Sjoerdmastah 16:34, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah it provides a lot of pressure in crowded places like most HA maps, condition spread and anti melee will bring the other team down! [[File:Tyrael.png]]--(Talk) 16:43, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Frosty, I admit, I <3 Fragility spam. But maybe a virulence??? Just a question ;) Shadow Form Slayer 18:05, May 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, it would be decent bar compression over toxic chill but.. its toxic chill :D -- Steamy .. x 18:13, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Virulence would add disease but aside from that you already have weakness and Toxic Chill does poison + decent damage. And yes Jax, fucking so lame to play, hi Blind everyone. --Frosty  [[Image:Frostcharge.jpg|19px]] 18:23, May 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Having b flash on a bsurge is pretty fucking funny :> -- Steamy .. x 19:38, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * And also the least honoUrable thing i've ever seen :( Brandnew 07:22, May 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * A/D / D/E, same difference --Frosty  [[Image:Frostcharge.jpg|19px]] 12:03, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

I have actually seen something like this being run, but with an A/D rather than a D/E, and iirc a couple of other things different. Widow maker 11:07, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well... yeah. Loads of people run this shit, gotta say i've never seen it with an a/d though, only D/E or more commonly R/D. Tox Chill is kinda meh too, most people run a fire ele or taint or BA ranger. Rawrawr Dinosaur 17:45, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * I saw a Cripslash bar w/ this.--XAM 08:27, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Looks really similar to tbh except Frosty's is written up nicer and the BSurge is a little different. --Polydorus 18:43, May 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * And this can keep LS down for the entire game which is good-- Steamy .. x 18:09, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * A little late but yeah. That among other factors is why the other build is getting deleted.--Polydorus 04:02, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Burning arrow or cripshot combo
think i would pick ba over vor or toxic. or take fire ele + crip shot instead of vor and toxic
 * taking out the VoR mes is absurdly stupid. Also removing the Tox Chill would cause you to lose a source of weakness and a helpful enchantment that fuels the dervish.

necro lc ?
I haven't seen LC nec playing in frag spike cause there is too much BBWAY or Iway in metagame, so , Nec can be droped by MB EL , toxic can play N/RT with weapon spells ... , and VoR can be replaced for a PD/PB mes. Just depends on metagame of the day hall ...

+10000 In current meta LC isn't played at all, MB(El/P with soc and run skills) is, and the toxic go N/RT with weapons and life, also true that the mesmer can run any stuff! If someone could change the page would be cool --Ryden77  13:31, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

mes and nec bars
Drop esurge, and take a standard PD bar, so you don't just farm UW. Also the necro bar having one weapon? its really not gonna help vs all the r/a sways that are forming. Drop well and sig souls on the nec and take shadow and resil, that way you will be able to hold up much longer vs the sway meta, and this build has enough aoe to blow up altars anyway. Also without shadow/resil your ghost will die on altar maps. 86.142.43.16 07:17, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

this isn't very good. and only one team runs it, not meta. Gringo 04:39, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

new build idea
this give much more spiking capability and even more dmg, but the loss of a PD mezmer. imo i think the trade off is well worth it because dead people = perma interupted--PLACE 02:55, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Sacrificing damage/defense for shitty bars. Gotta love it.--TahiriVeila 04:18, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Bump
Someone who knows HA update or archive this. -- Toraen TheJanitor 16:51, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

possible variant
or is it too hard to play? Playing Is Srs Bsns 11:34, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
 * What's the advantage when a derv is easier to play and can apply bleeding, deep wound, cripple, cracked armor and disease? Zero.Six 14:34, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
 * bulls strike, frenzy Playing Is Srs Bsns 16:47, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Frenzy is a con, derv has HoF.-- GWPirate 关 16:59, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
 * 33%>25%, 50% DPS increase>33% DPS increase. -- Brandnew. 19:18, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

The only thing that needs to be addressed is the WS derv, which has some different options. Fevered will still probably be used after the nerf, it will just be on spikes less often. Frostels 21:33, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Im not sure, I think it will probably see as much play as VoR.-- GWPirate 关 22:48, 19 March 2011 (UTC)