Archive talk:Mo/R Melandru's Support Smiter

Lately, I've been fighting against two Monks in TA, and I've seen something similar to this once, and it worked great. -Mike 09:29, 21 June 2008 (EDT)

No need for major rune, and i think Veil is a staple. &not; Klump eet  15:12 {GMT} 21-06-MMVIII
 * Deny Hexes can remove stacks of Hexes if used right. I'll change the rune, though. -Mike 11:17, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Veil can remove stuff like Diversion&shame in no time, while not triggering them. &not; Klump  eet  15:19 {GMT} 21-06-MMVIII
 * This looks good, especially in hex/condition heavy RA. I was wondering How much you actually heal for with reversal?[[image:Kingme.gif|60px]] Thatsme  08:56, 22 June 2008 (EDT)
 * You'd heal for 147 points (45x2+57) per Reversal of Damage, and be able to negate up to 56 damage (and return it to the foe dealing it). As for adding Strength of Honor, it is a good skill to have, but it would be more TA-oriented, and I wouldn't run it with Divine Boon because you'd kill your energy management. -Mike 09:21, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

gogogo boon monk .Snipey lizard 16:49, 1 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Shattering Assault will fk u up--[[Image:Relyk Purifying Veil Sig.jpg|19px]]R ELYK   ʞlɐʇ ʎɯ  00:20, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * I'm actually not seeing so many SA sins atm actually... maybe i'm just being lucky or something... also, what doesn't SA "fk up" lol. Driggy 00:49, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * I got raped by a team running two Monks in TA; one of them being something like this, and the other, the traditional WoH Monk. I think they also had a thumper, or something with a pet, at least. >.> Should I remove the TA tag? SA isn't as common in RA and rarely ever seen in AB. ــмıкε  нaшк  01:07, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Ups, Team - Rampageway it is often run instead of that support smiter, get this shizz vetted. / Fros  T  alk  \ 02:27, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * what about defenders zeal, smite condition and something like mystic regen for selfheal. Larsie538 04:46, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * There are already a couple builds with Defender's Zeal, and DZ is also a little counterproductive with the current blocking meta. Conditions, however, are also meta, and this can take advantage of that. ــмıкε  нaшк  10:28, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Rampageway also ruined my RA winning streak, and I think that was the time we had like 17 or 18 wins (7 or 8 in TA). I was running a Backbreaker Sin, and we had an awesome Monk, and maybe even a Blinder ele. ــмıкε  нaшк  10:47, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Divine Boon and Strength of Honor?
Does it make sense to have both on this bar? I'm not sure if energy will allow it, and you'll have to sacrifice one of the other skills on the bar. ــмıкε нaшк  11:34, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
 * also, bump. =P ــмıкε  нaшк  14:22, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Similar Build
Wow, I didn't see this build here for some reason. I just made. Should my build be deleted or something? Eclipse 20:55, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
 * I don't want to sound like an ass, but I'd say yes. Sorry. :( It's nice to know that other people like this kind of build, though. =P ــмıкε  нaшк  22:07, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Don't worry, I completely understand. The person who made this build has a right to it - he made it earlier. I don't mind if that page gets deleted; I just don't want two of the same builds. Eclipse 23:45, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Well, I didn't make the build, but I submitted it. I think I'd seen some team running something like these in Rampageway, and I didn't notice they had two Monks until we just about lost. lol ــмıкε  нaшк  09:50, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

This build makes me want to take Wild Blow into TA. Lolz that would screw this over SO much.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ  06:47, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Lol, Shattersin -.-'  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 06:53, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Wild Strike would make these Monks want to cry. Thank God that's one of the few meta builds that even runs Stance removal. ــмıкε  нaшк  10:12, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

SoH
^. Should be in the main bar (if you'll be hording the energy regen, it won't hurt you at all, and it's a standard for Smiters). -- * Wah Wah  Wah! * 09:21, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Just get rid of all of the optionals.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 09:22, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

The stupid thing with this build is that you either got too much energy too use or you got major energy problems; and when you got overkill of energy you don't really have much to spend it on... God box    10:33, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
 * That's why I had Divine Boon as an optional, so you could heal for ~150 every Reversal of Damage, and it could be dropped if facing little conditions and not having enough energy. You could just spam Reversal of Damage, if you do have the energy, though. ــмıкε  нaшк  10:36, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

GvG Tag
Tbh, add it... Its not bad, nice support, and the damage helps... No VoD is meh, but its still strong in GvG. 23:10, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
 * I find it kind of funny that a build I based off of Archive:Mo/R Resilient Boon Monk turned out to work better and be more universal (for different PvP). XD ــмıкε  нaшк  23:13, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

This
Still works but is no longer great imho -- Frosty  16:32, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
 * VOTE WHIPE tbh. Brandnew.  16:54, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Not yet. The nerf may be just for the double HA weekend or some tournaments. =/ Either way, the nerf to Smiter's Boon was too big to be permanent (lol hardest nerf in the history of video games). ــмıкε  нaшк  17:04, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
 * smiters r screwed nao. gg. izzy sux.-- Frog ger ton  17:14, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
 * ...Or doesn't he but do you instead? Brandnew.  17:16, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Ummm, what about Divine Boon? 202.124.127.204 19:56, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Didn't log in ^^  B y  a  k  k  o  [[Image:User_Byakko_Byakkopaw.png|User Page]] 19:56, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Your healing efficiency would be about null without Smiter's Boon. I've played this build (but with Divine Boon instead of SoH for RA, and the healing was barely enough then) but it just wouldn't be worth it for a 7 energy 100 point heal, tbh. ــмıкε  нaшк  20:02, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
 * lol, I met someone running this in RA a couple minutes ago, but he was unaware of the nerf. He seemed pretty surprised when I told him about the Smiter's Boon Nerf. XD ــмıкε  нaшк  12:22, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

This sucks without Smiter's Boon. Div boon requires too much energy, and doesn't give you SoH on front. RoD spam without smiter's boon isn't that great. —ǘŋ Ɛxɩsƫ  11:15, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
 * That's why this is archived, tbh. I played the Divine Boon+Smiter's Boon version in RA before the nerf, and the healing from that were barely enough.  ــмıкε  нaшк  11:18, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

Unarchival
Still useful in TA for support, Can be used in RA with Div Boon. -- Frosty  12:34, 16 October 2008 (EDT)

This
Still works. good in TA, especially dual BB way <3 if you vote it down you're fucking terribad. tag for ta and move along. Biddlers  McDiddlensmith  yarrgh  15:03, 16 October 2008 (EDT)

This gay hex crap...
lol....this gay hex crap anyone else kinda find that funny? Kurzick FTW 20:40, 16 October 2008 (EDT)

Smiter's boon
...It makes me cry ='( J  ustin  6   21:50, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Me too, but this build is still usable, apparently. ــмıкε  нaшк  21:51, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
 * MoI rapes this build. Good thing no one uses that skill. They really need to change melandru's from a stance to a skill to make up for smiters boon nerf.(Timcago 22:39, 2 February 2009 (EST)).
 * That would be stupid, smiters were mf broken and needed a nerf (although removing the skill was dumb) [[Image:Frostrage.jpg|19px]]Frosty  po!  02:42, 3 February 2009 (EST)
 * would still usck against moi--Relyk 05:43, 17 February 2009 (EST)