Archive talk:E/A Shadow Raptor

I decided to make this build because i was told that a E/A can do the raptor farm faster than the E/Me. I looked around for a while, but i could not find one for the life of me (I did find a few, but none could kill the boss). so i made this one myself. Enjoy Joshthor 01:31, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

The build seems to work in theory but shouldnt the raptors be taking off small amounts even through stoneflesh aura? Is the 41 health left after shadow form ends sufficient to keep you alive?
 * yeah the raptors will take small amounts off you, ocassionally 1-3ish, however, not nearly enough to kill you. after shadow form ends for the second time (boss recharge) you should have stoneflesh up and then you just cast deaths charge to get 216ish health or so (not sure exact number). and since there is only like 2-3 left just need to wait for slivers recharge to kill them all off Joshthor 22:59, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

Great build although I don't like the Ebon skill, seems kinda useless too me. Why not take the luxon/kurzick ele skill to raise ur attributes by 1.Emeraldstone
 * I'll put it in the variants, however even at rank 1 vanguard (unlikely you will have it if you have the skill you will probably have 2 or so) you get 3 more damage with it, the luxon ele skill elemental lord only gives you +2 damage (kinda lame) where the vanguard skill can get you at max +15 damage and at least +5 damage. Joshthor 17:14, 26 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Yea, I was kinda wondering why you had that skill in the build until I saw the movie. I just realized that it increases damage for all the splinter armor attacks. Nice idea! :) Panda Man 20:15, 26 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Just wondering...why do you have intensity after splinter armor. Wouldn't it make more sense for you to cast intensity before spliter armor so that splinter armor does more damage? Panda Man 20:19, 26 March 2008 (EDT)
 * As long as Intensity is on the damage is increased. Whether or not it's on when you cast doesn't matter. Note on Intensity Zefir 20:22, 26 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Yep, nother note on that, if you put intensity up second it will last the same amount of time of sliver where you would run out on intensity a couple seconds before sliver armor ends if you use it first Joshthor 21:08, 26 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Coooool, I might try this out I still need to finish my HM Book for the last 30k of asura points.--Rella 20:31, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

Stoneflesh is not worth it imo. Without it you can kill all but 2 or 3 and still have time to pick up drops, why wait an extra 20-30 seconds for recharge when you could be starting a new run in that time? Also in its place you could use a speed buff(dark escape or mindbender) to make pulling the raptors easier.--HomeBoy 03:37, 27 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Or Air of Superiority? 193.91.164.176 11:42, 27 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Drop Stoneflesh and Deaths charge for Dark Escape and Air of Sup.. It is not as reliable, but verry fast! Kongtorp 11:48, 27 March 2008 (EDT)

[build prof=E/A earthma=12+1+3 shad=12 ener=3+1][dark escape][glyph of sacrifice][shadow form][glyph of elemental power][sliver armor][intensity][ebon battle standard of honor][deaths charge][/build] This is what I am running, very fast and can kill all but those 2-3 at the end with time to get drops. It may even be possible to kill them all with max titles. I am at ss 6 and vanguard 2 now, so not very high at all, I will post more info when I max the titles. Also with mindbender you can throw in AoS like the peeps said above, that would make sure you could kill them all if you get two recharges.--HomeBoy 12:29, 27 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Intensity+Ebon+Mindbender+Air=4 pve only skills.. Kongtorp 12:40, 27 March 2008 (EDT)
 * True, but Mindbender and Air aren't necessary, either of them help it but don't hurt the build in any way. I also would recommend using Mindbender first,if your rank is high enough, because of the increased run speed making you able to round up even the raptors in the corner. Also I don't like skills like AoS because of the chance involved.--HomeBoy 16:19, 27 March 2008 (EDT)

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/User:StarSeeker#Ideas.2C_feel_free_to_discuss_on_my_talk_.28high_gimmick_factor.29 Scroll down 'till you see "Hardoar Raptor Farm". Same idea. Could take some ideas from that one. - Star Seeker  |  My talk  17:26, 27 March 2008 (EDT)

Well i tried this build out and it works well but since i didnt have EVSoH i put in elemental lord... doesnt work as well as i saw in the video but it works and i already got the green from the boss 2-3 times. i might use this in the future to get me higher in Asura.
 * yeah, it wont work nearly as well with elemental lord as EVSoH as it says in the variants section, when (and if) you choose to get that skill you will discover the build works much better Joshthor 23:10, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

=Much Better Variant= If you take out GoEP for Air of Superiority, Sliver killing enemies will recharge Shadow Form because of "Is there anything I can't do?". I have been using this "Perma SF" build on my ele for awhile, and it's great. It works on any large melee based mobs too. Test it out if you don't think it will work, but I think it should be on main bar. Though it is theoretically probable that you won't get it recharged, with a 10% chance of recharging all skills, and 34 raptors in the cave, you will get SF recharged at least once from the boss and another time from killing the nestlings. If it doesn't recharge, you always have Stoneflesh to fall back on to finish the run. Matti Nuke 22:27, 9 April 2008 (EDT)
 * you are correct, i should have thought of that but i didnt have the skill at the time, with the like 40ish (whatever, not sure exact #) it should recharge shadow form at least once, + the glyph isnt extremely nessasary anyway, changing it. Joshthor 01:28, 11 April 2008 (EDT)

Another alternative is to replace Stoneflesh with Mindbender and then you can also loose the glyph of Concentration to be replaced with Grasping Earth. Air of Superiority recharges for me 19/20 times on this run. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Blaze Oreon (contribs).
 * yeah, that would totally work since we dont already have 3 pve skill (sarcasm radar is screaming right now) [[image:Joshthorsig.jpg|19px]] J oshThor   Talk   Fun  10:27, 1 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Intensity could be swapped for Glyph of Elemental Power, not that big of a difference really... IC YF IF T YF I VE  20:29, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

Variant
Edlittle 14:29, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

Build:E/A Shadow Form Raptor Farm
And copy Build:A/E Shadow Form Raptor Farm--R ELYK   (Talk  |  Edits)  03:23, 23 May 2008 (EDT)

Glyph error.
glyph of concentration is actually affecting 1 spell in-game not two as suggested by this website. --90.216.133.89 17:06, 23 June 2008 (EDT)