Template talk:FarmCat

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Please let me know if there are farming categories currently missing from the template. --Krschkr (talk) 01:37, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Jade, silk (maybe just list all mats? idk). Also, perhaps area-specific tags (maybe too broad though). Us3r1OO425457 (talk) 17:04, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I could add those, but is there any factual reason to add silk? I know that certain mobs tend to drop it, but if there's no need to ever farm them, then I don't think giving them a category would make sense. Silk is only needed for some armour pieces and always on a minimum price at the NPC trader. There seems to be neither a risk that the material price could jump up (lack of demand) nor that it would be sold-out (lack of demand vs. available supplies). All non-rare materials are subject to larger price changes and usually have more uses, too, due to being required by the nowadays well-known (factions) NPC weapon traders. If you think that despite all of this a silk farming category makes sense I'll go ahead and add it.
 * I'm also a bit worried about the jade farming. I know that some creatures (or was it luxons?) and the jade brotherhood have a very low chance to drop jadeite shards. As I don't have any experience farming these mobs, would you say that it's enough to warrant the creation of such a farming category? Or is it rather on the same level as sapphire/ruby drops? --Krschkr (talk) 14:09, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Honestly I barely recall ever seeing jade brotherhood drop Jade. I noticed that the Mo 55 build mentioned jade. Only mat I've seen them drop is silk. My thought with silk and all mats, was that we could just list the mats that are likely to drop from a certain farm, even if that mat is not particular expensive/needed, more of a categorization/thing than anything. Also, for stone hulk farming, they do drop charcoal sometimes, so I was thinking it might be cool to list charcoal. Also, afflicted drop monstrous fangs/teeth, which are kinda valuable? I was just thinking that having all mats listed for completeness would be worthwhile - I guess build vetting would determine if a particular farm/build is profitable/worthwhile or not. Separation of responsibilities perhaps - I see what you are getting at though. Maybe I'd prefer to have a large pool of categories and let vetting handle the usefulness. You never know, something could change in the future too. Maybe categories should be less "opinionated" in nature, at least for mats.


 * Speaking of jade brotherhood, I honestly don't see a big need to list the wajun bazzar farm in any build page, it seems like a mostly useless farm to me. Do you have any thoughts about this? Us3r1OO425457 (talk) 14:32, 21 November 2020 (UTC)


 * If you find that the Wajun Bazaar farming location doesn't produce any worthwhile drop, you should probably suggest that location's removal from all farming pages on the community dashboard's talk page. If there's no opposition to your proposal it would seem like no one cares to save that farming area. I can't contribute any personal insight in its usefulness as I don't farm, and haven't farmed in the past outside of testing some PvX builds for vetting purposes.
 * Anyway, even if they end up unused, it may be useful to simply make all the rare material category pages. Bah, so much manual labour. :p --Krschkr (talk) 15:15, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Haha,fair enough. I guess I do kinda see the point of listing only "useful" mats, we wouldn't want to encourage people to create a farm simply because it farms a certain useless mat. Honestly I may have been missing the point of the categorization project. As long as there is a way to make it extensible, I think that's the important thing? Are other admins or users able to update categories in case you take a leave of absence for example? There's some phrase for this idea, forgot what it is though. Maybe some documentation for updating the project? But yea having a category for each mat probably is alright, as long as there is some disclaimer about a mats usefulness. Not sure how in depth this should go lol. Us3r1OO425457 (talk) 15:23, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Chieftainalex, Toraen and Vegetaledefender should be familiar with the template. And everyone else should be able to understand it by studying what's in it so far... compared with some of the other templates it's rather tame. And I think I'll be contactable via e-mail for a long time even if I stop showing up entirely. --Krschkr (talk) 17:05, 21 November 2020 (UTC)