Archive talk:Rt/Mo Weapon Support Rit

merging/improving Archive:Rt/E WoQ Support Ritualist and Archive:Rt/any WoF Support Ritualist in the view to archiving those. - Athrun Feya  - 16:00, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought renewing surge was pretty terrible :o [[File:Tyrael.png]]--(Talk) 18:24, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Specific Variants
They're really not needed, and don't reflect the mainbars anyway. Also, Xinrae's weapon just doesn't fit here. The main build is a hybrid of Channeling and Communing. Having a Restoration/Communing build as well just clutters the page, and it would really belong on its own. We don't need to merge every single ritualist that uses a weapon spell elite. Toraen TheJanitor 23:49, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The resto one is more of a variant of the SolS healer. - Athrun Feya [[Image:Lau_bfly.gif]] - 23:50, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Each could be optimized --Falconeye 00:03, March 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * Caster Support Ritualist


 * Martial Support Ritualist


 * Healing Support Ritualist


 * The problem isn't optimization, it's that having a full skillbar for each isn't necessary and no one set of variants will truly be optimal for all situations. And having multiple, widely-differing attribute splits between the builds makes them too different to keep on the same page (hence why Xinrae's Weapon isn't included). Your variants also use two superior runes each, which is just an unnecessary risk. You aren't getting enough benefits out of the runes to justify losing 180 health (and your headpiece should always be in your highest attribute to save points; this was not the case for at least the WoQ bar you posted). Toraen TheJanitor [[image:ToraenSig2.png]] 00:19, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * just take weapon of fury, put it on everyone, and tell them to wand. free energy all around! i call that quality party support. ···  Danny So Cute    08:00, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Weapon of fury almost seems like overkill considering the 3 weapon spells can't stack and they're all mostly for using on physicals. None of the other elite choices in channeling or communing though really stand out to me as going well with this build except obviously weapon of quickening. I guess summon spirits + spirit siphon? Necromas 08:17, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Necromas, the more weapon spells you have the less effective they are. Stick with GDW and SW (when used on something like a Derv or Barrager), but bring something else as elite. SoS, anyone? Angrimbor 18:47, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Spawning Power & Wielder's Zeal
Can anyone update Spawning Powers' 4% weapon spell duration bonus to better reflect the actual duration of Great Dwarf Weapon and other weapon spells? --Falconeye 18:53, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * annoyingly not, we've known about it for a while but needs wikia input to get changed (the problem was noted here). - Athrun Feya [[File:Lau_eye.png]] 18:59, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Wielder's Zeal is craptacular... any ideas on what exactly this Elite needs to do in order to provide an effective/verstile Weapon Support Rit build? Examples. --Falconeye 05:53, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Odds are it's just crap. Not every skill in Guild Wars deserves to be in a good/great vetted build (see Quick Shot, Archer's Signet, etc. from the ranger lines). EDIT: Oh, suggestions for the skill? Dunno. I was under the impression Anet just threw darts at a board of effects when deciding how to change a skill picked from another dartboard. Toraen TheJanitor [[image:ToraenSig2.png]] 07:44, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

more spawningP?
More SP for longer lasting wep spells? 10 spawning for +8 secs on GDW and +7 on WOQ82.73.136.207 14:34, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * 11-10-10 and a major on channeling?--GWPirate 09:48, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

This
Really should just be a WoQ build for supporting casters that leaves optionals and attributes for a second line of support skills. Including other elites with this didn't make a lot of sense, so I've removed them. Toraen TheJanitor 05:17, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It's still crap. both GDW and SW is pointless unless you have like 4 melees on the team. And anyway, it'd be far better for a player to run a spirit spammer than this. Renewing and Dulled are crap, and so are the rest of the optionals. Just delete, IMO. -- Jai . -  20:49, January 13 2011 (UTC)
 * Dulled weapon is pretty good ._.--GWPirate 21:10, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Hella expensive, is barely up half the time, small AoE, and negates somewhere around the same amount of damage as weakness. Enfeebling Blood and Shadow of Fear are ten times better. -- Jai . -  22:17, January 13 2011 (UTC)
 * WoQ can be good for caster players that can benefit from lowered recharges. What I want here is a WoQ build that has room for secondary support like all the other PvE builds. Toraen <font face="Courier New" color="DarkGoldenrod">TheJanitor [[image:ToraenSig2.png]] 05:18, 14 January 2011 (UTC)