Archive talk:A/any Permaform Tank

all i did was clean it up btw 09:19, 4 January 2009  

Any build that has energy problems as a counter can't be that great--Takeshi Creed 09:23, 4 January 2009 (EST)
 * well it doesn't as long as you use GoLE and aren't spamming deadly paradox or something. i meant not being careful about energy really. [[Image:Tai_sig_Image_78.png]] 09:26, 4 January 2009 

i have perma in FoW before and personally would remove AoE (since movement reduction) and +80 armour+Stone Aura should be enough to keep you alive against inferno and etc. Replace AoE maybe with radiation field or Air of Superiority (not sure if it's benefits affect you since you're tanking)or deathcharge etc 92.3.96.225 09:32, 4 January 2009 (EST)
 * go ahead and change if you want [[Image:Tai_sig_Image_78.png]] 09:33, 4 January 2009 

XD i would but i dont know pvx that well ^^ 92.3.96.225 09:39, 4 January 2009 (EST)
 * just change the skill name in brackets, like [armor of earth] to [whatever] [[Image:Tai_sig_Image_78.png]] 09:42, 4 January 2009 

Thank you, i actually know how to change stuff now XD :) 92.3.96.225 10:03, 4 January 2009 (EST)

rate this shit up. used in FoW and DoA -- 20:20, 23 February 2009 

Could someone post a video or explain how to maintain stoneflesh aura. After casting it with glyph of lesser energy, it runs out and if i cast it again it hurts my energy. --Vgfanatic2 00:09, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * You'll often have a BiP on your team. You only need to use stoneflesh if you are taking damage, which is rare, so you don't even need it all the time. --[[Image:Tai_Sig.png]] 00:26, 25 February 2009 
 * I'm actually talking more about the solo farming with sliver.--Vgfanatic2 00:32, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah. It's tough to manage energy after the nerf =/ --[[Image:Tai_Sig.png]] 00:42, 25 February 2009 
 * Should probably remove the solo farming part, but I have used sliver armor in a group before to speed things up a little so that is still probably viable. -- Dr ah  [[Image:Drah-Sig1.jpg‎|19px]] 00:46, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Heroes?
Could this be used to tank while having heroes nuke the monsters? If so, could some1 post some builds to use for them.--Vgfanatic2 01:15, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

any nuker build can be used...but pull aggro, cause they are stupid. Illoyon 15:25, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Still works??
I thought this doesnt work now since SF nerf?--Ice24790 03:34, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You can still maintain it at ~14 shadow arts, energy is just harder since you have to cast it more often--Relyk 03:49, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Duration at SA16 22sec + 20% from weapon = 26sec < recharge 45sec -33% through Paradox = 30 sec. Or am I missing something? -- 84.167.156.188 01:50, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Cons. I can't believe there are people that stupid that they can't infer.  Life [[Image:WikiLOD7.gif]] 01:58, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

For DoA without cons ...
... use Glyph of Swiftness instead of Lightbringer Signet. Glyph of Swiftness and Deadly Paradox add up. Makes SF maintainable at Shadow Arts 14 and higher.
 * Replace Glyph of Lesser Energy rather than LB signet. Athrun Feya 16:45, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Glyph of Concentration tbh. You need it n sht. ··· Danny   Does   Drugs  17:18, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

FRONT PAFE CORRUPTED
FIX FFS ITS CORRUPTED!!!!!!!!!!!! &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by TonyPlob (talk &bull; contribs).
 * lolwut? ··· Danny   Does   Drugs  20:12, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I think TonyPlob didn't find the Show button - it isn't great usability-wise because you set width at 100% and Show/Hide are where Edit is expected. Usually they are close together. I'll see if I can make it more usable if I have time (maybe later) --Falseprophet 16:01, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * We can't adjust where the show/hide button shows up. It's in the Monobook style. And really, if you can't take the 5 seconds to figure out that it says "show", not "edit", you really ought to rethink where you're going in life. ··· Danny   Does   Drugs  16:34, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No it's not - you can relocate show/hide easily using, say, width=170px instead of width="100%" (or 20% or whatever) which I tried before posting here, but I don't like how it is superscripted (which I believe is default for how H# headings work) and thought maybe there is a way to fix that. As to the second part, showing collapsed tables is rare on pvxwiki, so it is inconsistent, which is bad from a usability standpoint, and Edit and Show are the same word length, so people expect it to be there and assume that is what it says (yes, it really does matter).  Furthermore, the way the page loads it flashes and shows the build and then the build disappears, and I think some people immediately assume it's broken (see the part about inconsistency).  --Falseprophet 19:00, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I like how does it - maybe mimic that --Falseprophet 19:59, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Holy crap that's an eyesore. o_O or maybe it's just because i'm stuck on IE at work. ··· Danny   Does   Drugs  20:39, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

A/Any?
It has some elemental skills too.. A/E and A/Me

Why does this have it's own page?
It's two builds that are used in specific teams. Toraen TheJanitor 00:36, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Why not? -- <font color="Black">Drah <font color="black" size="1">02:17, 24 November 2009 (UTC)