User talk:Toraen/081211 Update Preview

Planned PvXcode Changes
This section reserved for list of stuff I'll probably want to have ready:
 * Exhaustion as a skill cost
 * Doublecast skill type (they might make it an actual skill type instead of just flavor as with Teardown)
 * 1.5 second cast times should not pose any problem to current PvXcode, double check though

Discussion
Guru thread: Anet says this update will actually take place sometime after Wintersday. --  Toraen   talk  05:24, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't bother with the second one as you cannot be sure how they will word the skill. Rest, yes. Going to be a fun next few weeks after this goes live! ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 05:26, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Good thing is that adding a skill type is pretty easy if they do. The exhaustion thing will probably be the difficult one because I haven't gotten sacrifice working and it's the same issue (that may be for lack of trying though). Award of most tedious obviously will go to inputting all the skill descriptions. --  Toraen   talk  05:31, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * How did it work for sacrifice, then? And don't you just get all the skill descriptions from Wiki? Copypasta isn't so bad:D ~  Ӎiñon Crysig.jpg 05:36, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Changing costs, recharges, and such isn't copypaste (each is a separate line), and even copy/pasting the description requires some post-editing to make it compatible. --  Toraen   talk  05:41, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sure excluded or vincent would be bored enough to do all the skill descriptions for you. As for the preview, heroes don't know how to avoid exhaustion, so less work for us figuring out which bars are viable!-- Relyk 08:41, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Icons
Every skill name with a ? It looks better and you can compare maybe Shadow  Christmas Signature 06:19, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Can we just take this opportunity to retire PvX since this update will finally put the last nail in GW PvP's coffin?--TahiriVeila 06:45, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * 3-4 effects being crammed into each skill, which some of them being applied twice (doublecast!). Same problem as with Dervishes. It's well past Power Creep at this point and more like Power Leaps. --  Toraen   talk  08:39, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Power creap? Anet, y u not learn. Ow wait, they can't Shadow Shadow02122011.gif Christmas Signature 12:32, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I really don't think its that bad at all. Rawr 12:57, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Not yet, they're only buffing elites. The second update will buff non-elites, which should start making them imba. &mdash; Skakid  Rally- kupo! [[Image:S9M.png]] 13:50, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Depends whether its a "buff" or just a "rework" as these elites are though... Rawr 14:24, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Skill discussion?
Obsidian flame spike is now viable? lol. -- Chieftain   Alex  13:23, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Depends how those energy storage elites turn out. At a spike every 15 secs (exhaustion) its a bit slow to spike, but if you get super emanagement like prism used to be, that'd be fine because you can run 7 eles 5 of which are healers and just play like e-blast. Guess it has the advantage of once they start dropping you can pump it up to spiking every 5 secs. Just have to see, it will definately work, just a question of how well Rawr 14:18, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Can someone link me to this shit? Just got off of work. ApplesaucePancakes 14:25, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * On the user page of the talk page that we are on..! Rawr 15:46, 9 December 2011 (UTC)