Archive talk:Mo/E AoF Undead Farmer

Have been working on this build for the past 3 days. Found a use for AoF. --Trevor3443 18:18, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
 * If anyone finds more farming area's feel free to add on. I just wanted to find the quickest way possible to farm the Undead. --Trevor3443 18:20, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
 * What if they deal more than like 200dmg or w/e SB heals for?  18:23, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
 * And also, how do you recast SB+AoF? I know AoF w/ GoLE, but SB needs to be put up more than that.  18:26, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
 * You energy is gonna hate you so much, if the mobs don't die after the first 2 spirit bonds (which most non undead mobs won't) your screwed. Killer Hasy 20:16, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Killer Hasy: yea, you will die when that happens, read the variant section on the removal of holy wrath (It should work, but it will be slower). I designed this build to farm the Undead, like the [http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:R/E_Gates_of_Kryta_Farmer]
 * Frvwfr2: if you are constantly getting hit over 200 damage you will die, not sure where monsters hit that high often. And for your second question, AoF is cast, then spirit bond, then the Glyph, then aggro. Your energy will drop to 0, but the glyph will still be active, allowing you to re-cast Spirit Bond 2 more times. I will see if the Usage section is unclear.
 * --Trevor3443 20:42, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Well from the build usage, you have to kill the mob within 30 attacks. Assuming they hit for more than 60 and less than 96 it is fairly easy to work out how bug a group you can handle. You will deal 58 damage to anyone who attacks you and lets assume each enemy has 500 health (not sure how much health they have) 500/58 = 8.6... so in real terms it takes 9 hits for each foe to do. Which in theory means if you only take groups of 3 or less, this will work, any more and SB will run out, hope that puts some thought 2 your brains! Frost  eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!  20:58, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
 * yea, once again, only intended for the undead. I thought through this build very much so, just like I did the SoA and the SoA Sliver monk builds about a year ago. Groups of 5-7 undead are manageable as Holy damage deals double. Should there be a name change for this build? --Trevor3443 21:27, 15 May 2008 (EDT)

Laugh out loud, never mind, just looked at the page history, I wrote the SoA Sliver / SoA monk builds 2 years ago! --Trevor3443 21:39, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Does holy wrath and retribution do holy damage, ahh well you should be able to take groups of 6 with ease then, 7 is a push. Frost  eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!  21:46, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Yea, perhaps :P --Trevor3443 21:58, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Well, if you used SoJ, adding another 41 damage (at Smiting level 12), then 500/(58 + 41) = 5.05 meaning about 6 hits... still kinda low. But Undead dead in 3 hits, meaning 10 Undead if you did it this way. --Trevor3443 16:50, 16 May 2008 (EDT)

Build Name Change?
This build is great for farming the Undead, but I have not found where it works great elsewhere. The http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:R/E_Gates_of_Kryta_Farmer is just a build for the Undead, so should this one be as well? --Trevor3443 16:39, 16 May 2008 (EDT)

Ummm...
You'll die in 16 seconds... there are no advantages. There's no reason not to use 600/smite over this for various reasons. AoF isn't needed, PS lets SB heal enuf to keep u alive. It also takes up your elite slot. There's a reason there arnt any solo 600 builds anymore, they cant use holy wrath since SB nerf. The universality of this build usx big time, 16 second thing. The build has limited uses and it will work in maybe 2 or 3 places, I hardly see how this is superior another 600 build when all u have to do is bring a hero. Thats best i can explain, fun build btw, just inferior to a regular 600, which could bring Retribution and still kill everything.--Relyk 18:55, 17 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Yea, I agree with you. It only works with the undead, but, the drops still are not much better when solo. The build is fun though :P --Trevor3443 21:47, 17 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Ik lol, it is a really querky build. Rewrite so its suppose only farm the specified groups in the general description, because i doubt it will farm anything else.--Relyk 17:52, 18 May 2008 (EDT)
 * OK, thats done, should I remove the optional slot, and the elite skill change as well then? They are not needed to farm the undead. --Trevor3443 18:36, 18 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Just removed it, I see not point in it --Trevor3443 18:39, 18 May 2008 (EDT)

Name
Change to Faithful Farmer? AoF Monk sounds like a general purpose monk. 21:16, 18 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Maby like Gates of Kryta Farmer, because thats the only place it is good for (and other Undead) --Trevor3443 21:25, 18 May 2008 (EDT)
 * AoF Undead Farmer sounds better TBH. Also, stupid question, could it work with Healer's Boon? --[[image:GoD Sig3.jpg|20px]] Guild of  Deals  21:26, 18 May 2008 (EDT)
 * That only affect Healing Prayers spells.  21:30, 18 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Name changed.  21:31, 18 May 2008 (EDT)

voted on
I didn't mean for this build to get voted on already, I just posted it for suggestions. I mean, I just changed a bulk of the build yesterday, making it just a build for the undead. (>^-^)> I just came back to PvX and am new to the voting process... --Trevor3443 07:38, 19 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Oh, the voting system is very nice!!, just thought I would add that in. --Trevor3443 07:41, 19 May 2008 (EDT)

AoF update
mega kapwn? or nerf?-
 * Looks like a nerf, tbh. I'm not sure how Aura of Faith will affect your Healing and Damage, either. We could get someone to find a new Elite or something. :/ ــмıкε  нaшк  10:32, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
 * I changed the Elite to Unyielding Aura. --[[Image:GoD Wario Sig.PNG]] * Wah Wah  Wah! * 10:46, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
 * I think Unyielding Aura is like Healer's Boon, it doesn't add to indirect healing (Spirit Bond). ــмıкε  нaшк  11:24, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
 * wow. i never thought id see the day this skill would be in a bar.-[[Image:Candysig.jpg|143x19px]] 12:46, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
 * well, ill test this now anyway.-[[Image:Candysig.jpg|143x19px]]

-sniff- I liked this build =,( works with Mark of Protection tbh.  ℓγssάή  is  ѕяѕ  вѕήѕ   19:44, 22 August 2008 (EDT)