PvXwiki:Requests for adminship/Saint


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the nomination of a user for adminship. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.

Saint (talk &bull; contribs &bull; RfA page)
From what I've seen, this user can keep a cool head even while his opinion is under fire, and he can stay on track when discussions go off-topic. He also shows a willingness to serve the wiki by performing helpful fix-it tasks and letting users know when they make mistakes. - Auron 10:26, 9 November 2008 (EST)

Request for adminship closed by  ~ PheNaxKian Sysop  ''' on 15:00, 25 November 2008 (EST). Candidate withdrew.'''


 * Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here
 * Ill help wherever i can. Saint 10:30, 9 November 2008 (EST)
 * Was going well but ive decided to leave PvX.  • Saint TALK 14:54, 25 November 2008 (EST) 

Support

 * 1) I trust Aurons decision. While I've not been on much the past few weeks, looking through Saints conts. He appears to be very level headed, and seems to have a good grasp of the policies. *insert Aurons nomination speech here*.  ~ PheNaxKian Sysop   11:08, 9 November 2008 (EST)
 * 2) An admin that is also good at the game is a must at the moment. -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 11:24, 9 November 2008 (EST)
 * 3) He seems a lot more mature than most of the fat heads on this wiki, and also he can stay calm and shit and knows the policies. -- ϲɽоω   ɱϲɑɳǥɽƴɗɽɑɡоɳ  11:40, 9 November 2008 (EST)
 * 4) He usually knows where he is talking about, so i suppose it would be good to have him as admin. [[Image:Ballsy Smurf.jpg|16px]] Blacksmurf  McHippopotas  13:19, 9 November 2008 (EST)
 * 5) I think he would provide positive contributions to the wiki and not screw around-- Shadow [[Image:Relyk Sig.gif]] 01:46, 10 November 2008 (EST)
 * 6) Accounts I have heard suggest that Saint is not terrible at the game, which is always a plus for an admin. He seems to have a reasonable head on his shoulders and to be honest, Rape.gif was tame as tame. -  Misery  Is  Friendly  [[image:Misery Dog obaby.gif|19px]] 12:02, 10 November 2008 (EST)
 * 7) Appareantly he's pretty good and good admins are good. He's been very constructive from what I've seen lately. Auron also knows stuff like this better then I do so I'm gonna follow him on his word. Brandnew.  12:30, 10 November 2008 (EST)
 * 8) Good at guildwars, good theorycrafter, knows what works and what doesnt work, mature. Will be a great addition to the admin team. Smurf Ohai 13:37, 10 November 2008 (EST)
 * The first three attributes are required for PvX:RfBM, rather than RfA. ~ ĐONT * SYSOP  15:10, 10 November 2008 (EST)
 * 1) I dont know the personality of the guy tbh but i've had a look through some of his stuff on here and Auron seems right in what he says ... &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wildstab (contribs).
 * 2) 71.229 00:38, 23 November 2008 (EST)

Oppose

 * 1) Grinch asked me to make this vote for him, dunno if this is allowed but whatever. "He's extremely tempermental, angers insanely quickly. He's probably bipolar, all things considered" -- ϲɽоω   ɱϲɑɳǥɽƴɗɽɑɡоɳ  11:58, 9 November 2008 (EST)
 * 2) Blocked for offensive image upload and use. No policy contributions. Grinch might be also right. I need more time to look over the nominee's contributions though. Edit: I have taken a look at some of his contributions of the past two weeks, and I'm not amused. I dislike his approach to certain things. Seeing his heated discussions over severals talks make me doubt his reliance as an administrator. ~ ĐONT * SYSOP   17:15, 9 November 2008 (EST)
 * Lots of random discussion moved to talk
 * 1) Dont shows a good point. In addition, there's lots of people who do basically what he do. It's not something an admin needs to do. It's as simple as telling slightly heated arguements to calm down, telling people not to discuss on the AN, saying ohai, and moving build pages. It's janitorial duties, you don't see him putting the end to dramafests, it's really stuff any person can do and some people have done. It's a jump the gun nomination, honestly. Also, this, although a clearly provoked attack and a shame to hurt his adminship, shows that although he can keep a calm manner in conflicts between 2 outside users, he can easily lose his cool at anything shot at him, and you'll be facing that quite a bit as an admin (seeing as your decisions will be debated and you'll get into various arguements between yourself and another) --[[Image:GoD_Hammer_and_Sickle.jpg|19px]]  Guild  of   Deals   16:06, 10 November 2008 (EST)
 * 2) I agree with all of the above. TBH I barely ever heard of him and from what I've seen I won't trust him with a sysop title.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 16:39, 10 November 2008 (EST)
 * 3) I cannot possibly take anyone serious, who doesn't even bother using correct punctuation during his own RfA. In addition, his in-game performance is rather meh. He shows no real knowledge or expierience of higher level PvP. He has nothing to offer but routine wiki bullshit (such as deletion, ect). In all reality, he is just another kid. We don't need need any more of those. --<font color="Black">Readem 01:26, 23 November 2008 (EST)
 * wuts hypocrisy m8
 * 1) I agree whit above. TBH I barely ever heard of him and from what I've seen I won't trust him with a sysop title. - also many better candidates out there :o Massive  [[Image:Image-Massive Sig.jpg|19px]] 07:19, 23 November 2008 (EST)
 * 2) I'm pretty sure all my thoughts about this person have been stated above me somewhere on this oppose list. Dont really hit the nail on the head though. And Grinch nailed it in place. Really, he isn't cut out to be sysop or admin or whatever. 19:58, 24 November 2008 (EST)
 * For anyone wondering, go see my talk page. Infidel seems to think that me putting him in his place makes me non-admin worthy.  <font color="#444">• Saint <small style="font-family:Verdana;"><font color="#444">TALK 20:12, 24 November 2008 (EST) 
 * 1) Even seen by the above discussion, and on his very own RfA page, Saint can lose his temper quickly and starts being a dick sometimes, as pointed out by Dont and GoD. Im going to have to pass until behavior improves. -- Jebus  contests  22:40, 24 November 2008 (EST)
 * 2) "i probably cuss too much for comfort" makes me feel uncomfortable making him an admin. Admins should be reasonable and not be so defensive when someone says they fail and start calling him names. [[Image:ViYsig5.jpg|19px]]<font color="Darkblue">Victoryisyours (<font color="Darkblue">talk /<font color="Black">pvxcontribs ) 06:53, 25 November 2008 (EST)

Neutral

 * 1) I think Auron's jumping the gun here. For the past week or two, yes he's been enforcing the law, but honestly, it's not like he's a big force. --[[Image:GoD_Hammer_and_Sickle.jpg|19px]] <small style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Verdana;border-style:solid;border-width:2px;border-color:red;background-color:gold;padding:0px 5px 1px 6px;"> Guild   of   Deals   10:31, 9 November 2008 (EST)
 * 2) I admit i'm not that active, btu i haven't seen anything admin-worthy yet. ☆Imbagon♥McSteve☆(LVPoW)Cuz Steve said so... ツ 10:32, 9 November 2008 (EST)
 * 3) We don't need more admins tbh. Mizzles and Phenny are active enough.  ɟoʇuɐʌ  ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 11:22, 9 November 2008 (EST)
 * For fuck sake lol, you vote on if they are good enough to be admin, not if there are spaces. -- ϲɽоω   ɱϲɑɳǥɽƴɗɽɑɡоɳ  11:38, 9 November 2008 (EST)
 * Crow is bad.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 11:55, 9 November 2008 (EST)
 * 1) Pika here, while recently he has been displaying a better(admin-worthy) performance, saint once mentioned he didn't care about policies(refer to talkpage) which makes me hesitant in showing outright support atm. 152.226.6.203 22:41, 9 November 2008 (EST)
 * for referance, this is the comment. ill post whatever i want, its a wiki, i dont care about policies, i dont live on here so if im banned i wouldn't care. if the builds i post get vetted, then maybe theyll help someone sometime. thats why i generally fix builds up, post an occasional build, to help people. if i posted to stroke my ego i would just do what frosty does. if i was here to find friends, i would do what cedave does, be a dick and accompany every comment with "ups""baed"and"lul". Saint 10:28, 13 October 2008 (EDT). Saint 22:45, 9 November 2008 (EST)
 * TBH I am less skeptical about you, but I would like to observe more before supporting.152.226.6.203 22:49, 9 November 2008 (EST)
 * 1) Who the fuck is Saint? :/ Selket Shadowdancer 11:47, 10 November 2008 (EST)
 * Does it matter? Would it change the way he does his job as an admin?Smurf Ohai 13:37, 10 November 2008 (EST)
 * Yes it does matter, I'm not going to vote for someone I have never even heard of. Selket Shadowdancer 14:06, 10 November 2008 (EST)
 * Then at least consider voting neutral until you know more about Saint, because, really, he could be a great admin. Smurf Ohai 14:07, 10 November 2008 (EST)
 * Fair enough, you do have a point. I've moved this to Neutral. Selket Shadowdancer 14:13, 10 November 2008 (EST)
 * 1) What Dont said. <font size="2.01">Misf8    /wave  10:56, 11 November 2008 (EST)
 * 2) Would make a better BM -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 15:57, 11 November 2008 (EST)
 * Meh, seen some questionable judgement on his part recently. Not sure he knows the wiki culture well enough. That has advantages and disadvantages. - Misery  Is  Friendly  [[image:Misery Dog obaby.gif|19px]] 05:17, 25 November 2008 (EST)


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