Archive talk:R/A Shattering Assault Ranger

The infamous Dagger Ranger gets used in GvG, a twist in the plot? / Fros  T  alk  \ 10:50, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Dagger rangers = you lost the game. Rupert = Hawt [[Image:Rupert_bear_sig.jpg|19px]]14:51 {GMT} 9-06-MMVIII
 * Not quite. --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]Tab  Moo  12:15, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Rofl! D-Shot Daggeranger! / Fros  T  alk  \ 12:18, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Impale can be dropped for res sig. &mdash;  Skakid  11:26, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Doesn't count Tab, you used Dshot too, that's a ranger with a bow and I would argue it was really Dshot that killed me. Although, you couldn't do it with a BA ranger, does that make rangersins superior to BA rangers? - 12:17, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * No, but it doesn't mean Rangersins are auto-lose. / Fros  T  alk  \ 12:19, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Ups, iirc I still beat your VoD build at VoD with a BA. --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]Tab  Moo  12:19, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Ups, that's because I'm baed. - 12:24, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * ^. We should 1v1 more often. --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]Tab  Moo  12:24, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Because 1v1 is the highest form of PvE... --Guild of Deals * Wah Wah  Wah! * 12:26, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Actually, because I enjoy beating him with bad bars :> --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]Tab  Moo  12:28, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Am I right to have an impression that whole guild wars now relyes on soh mesmers? --Tiger   grrr!! [[Image:Tiger_Grrr.jpg|19px]] 13:44, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * If you obsed the game that you ripped this from (nub gladiators)you would probably notice that the r/a got d shot so much and he almost never got an entire combo off. I remember thinking jesus he is totaly shutdown the entire match, this is why you run warriors.I Heal If U Shutup 14:54, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Just because [Glad] ran it doesn't mean it's fucking great. I agree with I Heal. --Guild of Deals<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 15:54, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * WOW YOU AGREE THAT AN ASSASSIN COUNTER COUNTERS ASSASSIN CHAINS? FUCK YOURE ALL SO FUCKING DUMB &mdash;  Skakid  15:59, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Fact: Some PvX contributors will rate some builds down very low until they actually see a exp guild running it. This is proof on how retarted the community can be here. -From InfestedHydralisk. --Guild of Deals<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 16:01, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Fact: Shut the fuck up. &mdash;  Skakid  16:02, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Fact:no u. --Guild of Deals<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 16:03, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Fact:GoD is right. This community gargles the balls of high ranked guilds in their mouth. 75.34.40.10 16:48, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * They do. However, he's wrong to say that this is a completely useless trash build. --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]<font color="Black">Tab  <font color="Black">Moo  16:50, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Clearing some things up
There's been a fair bit of badness here. This build is not great, but it's not worthy of 0-0-0s and 1-1-1s either. --<font color="Black">Tab  <font color="Black">Moo  16:31, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * It's been said that Leaping Mantis and Dash is not a reliable snare. This is not true, saying that is like saying Bull's Strike is terrible because you're never going to land it. It just requires that you occasionally stop intently watching your skill bar and pay a small amount of attention to the field.
 * No deep wound. First of all, this is meant for a physical heavy build - ie you take it to fulfill a niche role when you feel that you already have enough DW - see the case where Glad used it. I know that Glad running a build doesn't make it good, but it is useful in certain roles. Secondly, Impale is in Variants. Nothings stoping you taking it.
 * "Lol dagger ranger". Dagger rangers are mostly bad. That doesn't mean all are bad.
 * "Sins can do this better". SA sins are fragile, with pretty unstable energy. They don't really do anything much better than this. Energy management is atleast as good if not better here, and the increase in damage is minor between the two professions. This lets you use SA more often, which is better in certain cases, as well as being more durable.

I've talked to Ska about it, and we've got a few clear viewpoints on the build - great, working but not great and trash. I'm going to leave it for another Admin or BM to look at and decide where it goes. --<font color="Black">Tab  <font color="Black">Moo  17:26, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * TBH, it's not the best fucking thing out there, but does pack quite a few utilities (snare, stance removal, enchantment removal, etc). --Guild of Deals<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 17:27, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I know that. See my vote. --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]<font color="Black">Tab  <font color="Black">Moo  17:27, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Deep Wounddddd? &mdash; Rapta   (talk|contribs) 17:49, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Impale is optional. --Guild of Deals<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 17:50, 9 June 2008 (EDT)


 * No deep wound. First of all, this is meant for a physical heavy build - ie you take it to fulfill a niche role when you feel that you already have enough DW - see the case where Glad used it. I know that Glad running a build doesn't make it good, but it is useful in certain roles. Secondly, Impale is in Variants. Nothings stoping you taking it. obabys &mdash;  Skakid  17:57, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Yeah, didn't see variants. Stupid template always puts it at the bottom. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 18:00, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Also, I can kill monks in RA with this. I'm so pro. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 18:09, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I refuse to RA with melee characters, I face not 2 but 3 anti-melee hexers 3 games in a row who all shit on me. I got banned shortly after. &mdash;  Skakid  18:10, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Rofl, go go RA, this was run by [noGG] as well! roflage. / Fros  T  alk  \ 18:15, 9 June 2008 (EDT)


 * More like LOL I'm exhausting and pressuring you while you uselessly spam skills to try and counter the 120 damage auto attacks and covered deep wounds every 3 seconds. - PANIC!  [[Image:Panic_sig4.png|50px|18px]] <font color="#D70000"> sexiness!  05:08, 10 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Covered deep wound? - 05:10, 10 June 2008 (EDT)
 * You mean paired with a Wounding Strikeamajigger? - 05:11, 10 June 2008 (EDT)
 * ayup. Somehow I lost the part about your friends doing the autos and dws. - PANIC!  [[Image:Panic_sig4.png|50px|18px]] <font color="#D70000"> sexiness!  05:21, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

Dear Frv
Is it really that useful in HB in it's current form? There is no deep wound. I assume you want the player to run this and players tend to be the prime source of damage and usually the only deep wound. I think the HB version would look quite different. - 11:12, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
 * You take Impale in HB I would guess since no need for res... / Fros  T  alk  \ 11:18, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

You take rend on an ele/monk/something, not this. -<font color="Black">Shen 11:15, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
 * SA is pretty crappy pressure though and heroes aren't that hot at helping out with pressure, plus you will probably split so I just don't see this having the moxy to kill in HB without big scary scythes to support it. If people have started running WS dervs on their heroes, then yeah, maybe this would work, or perhaps if heroes can run this well which I doubt. - 11:22, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Ive seen Crit Scythes with Wounding Strike on Hero's lately -_- /  Fros  T  alk  \ 11:23, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
 * What kind of rank and were they any good? I haven't HBed in a while because I hate it, but last I saw everyone and their uncle ran two monks with a spiker of some sort(usually a sin) and a splittable character. - 11:26, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
 * This build is good for pressuring monks who are spamming prots and heals to try and counter DW faggotry and 100+ damage auto attacks. Not much else besides that and RA where you can pretty much count on casters (including monks) to be semi-spamming with no support from their other team members. - PANIC!  [[Image:Panic_sig4.png|50px|18px]] <font color="#D70000"> sexiness!  11:27, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
 * I can't remember misery, All I remember was it had criteye, WS, mystic, WotM, Sin's remedy and return. Didn't see the rest. / Fros  T  alk  \ 11:30, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Massacre Way uses WS critscythe anton sometimes I think. -<font color="Black">Shen 11:38, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

Am I the only one that sees the great synergy between leaping mantis strike and exhausting assault? Gogey 17:08, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Yup--[[Image:Relyk Purifying Veil Sig.jpg|19px]]<font color="99CCFF">R ELYK   <font color="CCCCFF">ʞlɐʇ ʎɯ  18:29, 18 June 2008 (EDT)

Name
Refers to Exhausting Assault instead of Shattering Assault, wich is, of course, the Elite used in the build. I'd probably go with Shattering Assault Ranger, or something more creative like Shattering Exhaustion. =P ــмıкε  нaшк  22:25, 16 July 2008 (EDT)
 * The build name is also spelled wrong. I'd move it, but now I don't know what to move it to. Shattering Exhaustion Ranger sounds good though. --Toraen 13:18, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Done and done. --[[Image:GoD Wario Sig.PNG]]<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 13:20, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
 * I renamed it once, but Rapta said Exhausting Assault (since Assault comes for SA aswell) was better.  Frosty  No U!  13:21, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Eh, it still has "Exhausting" in there (and spelled correctly) and refers to the elite. It's not biggy though. --[[Image:GoD Wario Sig.PNG]]<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 13:22, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
 * The old name mostly implied that only Exhausting Assault was in the build (and pretty much leaves out Shattering Assault.) Shattering Exhaustion Ranger is more descriptive. =P ــмıкε  нaшк  13:24, 26 July 2008 (EDT)

But the skill is called Exhausting Assault, not Exhaustion Assault. The old name was better IMO (if you just spell it correctly this time). <font color="#FF1337">&not;H4xx Master <font color="#FF8519">Gladius  13:28, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Hey, it was as close I could get. Anyway, Skakid did it. --[[Image:GoD Wario Sig.PNG]]<font color="Black"> * Wah <font color="DAA520">Wah  Wah! * 13:28, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
 * These verb-adjective names are distracting, misleading, confusing and pointless. If you have to stop and ask yourself, "What the screaming assfuck is a shattering exhaustion?  Wait, it's R/A, that means it's probably not an Equinox trapper, and when I think about it there's assassin skills that have skills with names that sound like that, so it could be a dagger ranger." when Exhausting Assault made it understood that yes, it was a dagger ranger, it's a bad fucking name. --71.229 13:30, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
 * The name's better now, imo. Exhausting Assault only really pointed to using the skill with the same name, which doesn't say enough about the build. ــмıкε  нaшк  13:32, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
 * It says it's a ranger using daggers. If someone's looking for a dagger ranger, they'll find it.  If somebody's not looking for a dagger ranger, they won't find it.  That's what a build name is supposed to do. --71.229 13:34, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Enough QQ about a name now?  Frosty  No U!  13:35, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
 * Skakid's got this page scoped anyway, this is like the third time he's prevented something like this. Also, GUILD WAAAARRRS. --71.229 13:36, 26 July 2008 (EDT)

hmmm
GvG-- Shadow 03:31, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

Unarchive?
Should this be unarchived? It's definitely still viable with the Jagged -> Fox chain. Maybe something like this?

? <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">13:55, 18 September 2009
 * New build if anything. Same reason as old and new Bunny Thumper. --[[Image:Jaigoda_endrant.jpg|/rant]]  Jai  writes a  lot . . . 14:24, September 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay everyone, I'm seeing this being run in HA on teams with 1-3 R/A. Stripping prots and spiking?  I think it needs to be unarchived. -- Extreme Zer0 22:21, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

So, is this actually being used a lot, or is it just like 1 team doing it >.> --<font color="Black">Frosty  19:25, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Almost half at least of HA teams are running it Exo Oo 19:39, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * borat ran it and now passive and co do, so yea its metaish. Gringo 20:35, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

This
Done before trashed before. --PVX-Tyris 21:04, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, archived before. And that doesn't matter. If it's meta, it's meta. <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">21:10, 8 November 2009
 * and its good, dont see r/a and assume its bad like a shitter...Gringo 21:15, November 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * I was more poking fun at the fact that builds get put on here and trashed, as soon as someone decent actually starts using it 5-5-5. zzz lol PvX. --PVX-Tyris 22:22, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Tyris, this build was used and archived a while back after it fell out of meta. Now it has been changed and people are using it again, therefore we're vetting it. PvX isn't the place for people to get creative with their builds (at least, not anymore). We store the current meta, because the truth is that everything has been done by now. It's what works best in the current game climate that matters. Of course, very little of this applies to low-end PvP and PvE, but then again....who cares? <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">22:27, 8 November 2009
 * this is about posting meta builds not fucking isle of nameless builds tyris. Gringo 23:05, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Meh my point was THAT I POSTED THIS EXACT FUCKING BAR AFTER THE ESCAPE NERF predicting it would replace it and was flamed but it seems u didn't understand my point... Also yes I am well aware that PvX is here to document the meta thankyou very much...--PVX-Tyris 00:25, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * everyone gets a boner when borat uses a build, it's true. --<font color="Black">Frosty  [[Image:Frostcharge.jpg|19px]] 00:32, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * "Also yes I am well aware that PvX is here to document the meta thankyou very much"
 * Then what's your point? That you don't get credit? Bwaaaaah. <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">00:54, 9 November 2009
 * BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW. hes pulling an ankas. Gringo 02:06, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * Except you cannot find a more retarted person among all of the human race than ankas. He's actually proud of being an assistant manager at hooters, lol--TahiriVeila 05:07, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * i lol'd pretty hard. Gringo 05:10, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey the dude gets to see titties all day you've got to give him credit for that ;P --<font color ="Blue">Ikimono <font color ="Brown"> "...And my axe!" [[Image:Monk-Paragon-icon.png]] 06:22, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * apparantly youve never met ankas, or you wouldn't give him credit for anything ever. ever. Gringo 06:32, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * My personal bet is he's basically a bitch and the girls beat the shit out of him if even looks at them--TahiriVeila 07:04, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * But saint he made the HA Divert Hexes Bonder!!!! --<font color="Black">Frosty  [[Image:Frostcharge.jpg|19px]] 07:22, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * har har. he also claims to have made rt/r nightmare spike. "i had no idea borat made one the day before, i guess all our skills were just the same cuz great minds think alike". yea k ankas. Gringo 17:42, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * I want jezta's rape about him, so funny :> --<font color="Black">Frosty  [[Image:Frostcharge.jpg|19px]] 17:52, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * i thinks you mean rap. Gringo 17:54, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * I want jezta's rape too. <font color="Black" face="cambria">Karate [[File:KJ for sig.png]] <font color="Black" face="cambria">Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">20:59, 15 November 2009
 * my favorite is the kyle one--TahiriVeila 03:14, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

The new variant.
Uhhh, if its for AB, why the rez sig? Zedone2 02:39, January 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed. <font face="Courier New" color="Black">Toraen <font face="Courier New" color="DarkGoldenrod">TheJanitor [[image:ToraenSig2.png]] 02:44, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Lightning Reflexes:
http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt344/pacolemere830530/nuclear-bomb-badger350-1.jpg Nerf Incoming! --BlazingBurdy 20:15, January 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yea it won't be so good for these shitter rangers, although I can't think of much else that's worth replacing it even with the longer recharge. --<font color="Black">Frosty  [[Image:Frostcharge.jpg|19px]] 20:16, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

No moar OPd defenses with R/A's LR makes me wanna just go A/any and bring Crit Defenses or Bonetti's tbh.. E-management isn't an issue with CS + Zealous to begin with, so... --BlazingBurdy 23:00, February 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * You clearly don't understand why the SA on a ranger is so much better than on a sin then... Spaggage  talk  23:12, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Not ok to screw LR and take a long lasting IMS then? I just hate when they runs away Exo Oo 12:53, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Bye bye
^<font color="Lime"> «No <font color="Black"> vii« 00:23, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * I wonder if RA players will say that the nerf was unnecessary. Too bad I won't get to GWs for a while. Then again, I have better things to do after the update. -- Chaos?  -- 12:07, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * /wave --BlazingBurdy 02:43, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Bye bye, I will miss this build. There are new build that many of us can make now of from the seeping wound and fox promise skills. =)

Was fun! --Barbie of Kryta 23:37, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * I hope you used the phrase "I will miss this build" just for the sake of the saying. -- Chaos?  -- 23:52, February 26, 2010 (UTC)