Archive talk:Me/E Earth Magic Mesmer

I find it somewhat amusing that everyone thinks TA is all about spikes. — Tycn (talk *pvxcontribs ) 07:22, 18 December 2007 (CET)
 * Its not that TA is about spikes, its that I love spikes and don't play TA.&mdash; [[Image:Uber sig pic 1.JPG]]  Teh Ub  er Pwnzer  07:28, 18 December 2007 (CET)
 * Dom mesmers are also somewhat missuited to TA, a GvG tag would probably get you further. — Tycn (talk *pvxcontribs ) 07:30, 18 December 2007 (CET)
 * I really don't know what to do with it. Its just another random thought I had. &mdash; [[Image:Uber sig pic 1.JPG]]  Teh Ub  er Pwnzer  07:34, 18 December 2007 (CET)

Energy Surge does more damage. Ryzonn 09:47, 19 December 2007 (CET)

Knockdowns do more killage. Tycn 01:31, 20 December 2007 (EST)

GvG this bar is fine, the only real problem is the long cast time. Shouldn't matter much since GoE allows you to cancel as much as you want iirc. Tycn 02:32, 20 December 2007 (EST)
 * The real problem is that if your team was spiking it would be hard to cancel it and still sync the spike. &mdash; [[Image:Uber sig pic 1.JPG]] Pwnzer is Santas 02:52, 20 December 2007 (EST)
 * Ask for a guardian and pray it doesn't get interupted. - [[Image:Unexist sig.jpg|20px]]Unexist  09:00, 22 December 2007 (EST)

For what I know only glyph of lesser is bugged. Still, Gale > Earthquake, with 1/2 cast time you can also use it as an interupt and spam it hellalot more. - Unexist  10:32, 20 December 2007 (EST)
 * Exhaust gives them the same recharge eventually. –Ichigo724[[Image:Ichigo-signature.jpg]] 10:49, 20 December 2007 (EST)
 * GoE removes exhaustion. Bob fregman 17:35, 21 December 2007 (EST)


 * You totally don't understand my point; rangers will interupt earthquake, they won't @ gale. And gale is every 10 secs, earthquake 15. - [[Image:Unexist sig.jpg|20px]]Unexist  08:41, 5 February 2008 (EST)

Drop shame for MoD. GoE allows you the best of the best. --Readem
 * Needs gale imo. that might also make up for only 1 interrupt being on the bar, since gale on a mesmer is still good enough for aegis, diversion, ressigs, and just about anything else if you can anticipate it, on top of being a short snare, or a way to remove a character from the picture for a couple seconds.  I think Earthquake is just too long a cast.  Yes, I know you can cancel spam with your glyph, but the problem is it will be much harder to get it to come at a good time.  Still, I suppose it could be nice in VoD or something for archer balls. Pluto 03:59, 23 December 2007 (EST)

You sacrifice a lot to be able to use earthquake, elite included. Why don't you consider Cry of Frustration paired with Glyph of Lesser Energy? The interrupt is area-wide and still does damage (albeit less). You could use Mantra of Recovery and spit out interrupts 33% faster for example. Food for thought. --Eyekwah 04:55, 18 January 2008 (EST)
 * Knockdown = everybody useless for 2 seconds. &mdash; Teh Uber Pwnzer 06:32, 19 January 2008 (EST)
 * If that were the focus, go all out. Make an earth elementalist build with Earthquake and Dragon's Stomp with Glyph of Energy to keep off the heavy exhaustion and energy upkeep.  You'd get to cast it every 10 seconds without any cost to you energy-wise.  Knockdown = everybody useless for 2 seconds?  That means if enemy spends 2 out of every 10 seconds on their asses, you've got yourself what they call an advantage.  At that point, if you want to add interrupts, couple it with Cry of Frustration, and you've got yourself a decent 'area of effect' interrupter.  --Eyekwah 18:41, 20 January 2008 (EST)
 * Casting time... &mdash; Teh Uber Pwnzer 19:23, 20 January 2008 (EST)
 * You added Earthquake, not me. If you don't like the recharge, why even have it there to begin with?
 * --Eyekwah 10:17, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * Casting time =/= recharge. &mdash; Teh Uber Pwnzer 17:05, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * You added Earthquake, not me. If you don't like the 'Casting time', why even have it there to begin with?
 * --Eyekwah 10:17, 22 January 2008 (EST)
 * Because its way lower on a mesmer with fast casting. Three seconds on an ele, 1.8 on this mesmer. &mdash; Teh Uber Pwnzer 20:04, 23 January 2008 (EST)
 * Then make a Fast casting Glyph of Energy earth magic elementalist that can regularly cast Earthquake. --Eyekwah 05:06, 24 January 2008 (EST)
 * Except for wards, earth magic is extremely mediocre. – Ichigo 724 [[Image:Ichigo-signature.jpg]] 08:26, 24 January 2008 (EST)

LOL i faced this today, and it got rolled himynameisbobbyjoe 21:32, 4 February 2008 (EST)
 * Doesn't say shit. - [[Image:Unexist sig.jpg|20px]]<font color="Black">Unexist  08:43, 5 February 2008 (EST)

Now that GoE got buffed to 7 second recharge, i see no point using Earthquake over Gale. Moush 00:24, 7 February 2008 (EST)

Power Leak got big nerf also, though earthquake + dragons stomp could be used as AoE KD.- Jak123X 00:33, 7 February 2008 (EST)

No, this is used. &mdash;  Skadiddly [슴Mc슴] Diddles  00:39, 7 February 2008 (EST)

This is what iv'e been running ever since the update. The synergy between EQ and DS is great with GoE.Squirrel 14:00, 7 February 2008 (EST)
 * No. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 18:01, 7 February 2008 (EST)

Yes, not anymore though. Recharge reverted.Squirrel 11:47, 9 February 2008 (EST)

Dragon's stomp is bad, only eruption is still worth taking. - <font color="Black">Unexist  07:30, 16 February 2008 (EST) I ment dragons + earthquake, since you can risk the 5 sec extra recharge.

Cursed in Any Language [CiaL] actually ran an Earthquake + Dragon Stomp Mesmer in the January Monthly and got Silver capes. I don't think it's that good. Zuranthium 02:33, 4 March 2008 (EST)

Kinda off-topic
Is Glyph of Energy gud at heroes? I'm kinda intending to TRY a GvG-build in PvE. Thanks in advance, plx no flamez okthxbai. <font color="black" face="arialbold">Adr <font color="purple" face="arialbold">iaa <font color="black" face="arialbold">nz 14:51, 4 March 2008 (EST)
 * tbh saying something like that is just asking to be flamed okthxbai. Rusty 14:56, 4 March 2008 (EST)
 * Yeah don't bother. Just use a PvE team in PvE. - zomg!  [[Image:panic_sig.png|19px]]  PANIC!  15:03, 4 March 2008 (EST)
 * Don't forget HB in RA too, that's kewl. God  box   15:12, 4 March 2008 (EST)
 * Diversion sucks in pve, so mesmers suck there too. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  09:16, 5 March 2008 (EST)
 * So sad and so true. Lookit me! I can brutally shut down a target super fast! Wait... what do you mean bosses shrug off hexes extra quick?! - zomg!  [[Image:panic_sig.png|19px]]  PANIC!  09:24, 5 March 2008 (EST)
 * I mean diversion is useless, as you kill them within 10 seconds. That means mesmer are just as useless, since diversion is pretty much the biggest thing of a mesmer(after that, spanking e-mangment and stripping enchanmtents). —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  15:18, 1 August 2008 (EDT)

Energy?
While GoE negates the cost of earthquake, the rest of bar is still very energy-heavy. Might relieve a bit of it with Power Drain instead of PSpike, or shame instead of some other skill?. Zyber 16:24, 4 March 2008 (EST)
 * The point of GoE is that you don't need Inspiration. However, on another note, PLeak is probably better than PSpike. &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 16:45, 4 March 2008 (EST)
 * Pleak was changed to Pspike after the nerf, but was never changed back after the rebuff. About GoE: its not only used for Earthquake.<font color="Black"> &mdash; Teh Uber Pwnzer 18:13, 4 March 2008 (EST)
 * No. Pspike is just better. You can't live on a 20 recharge interupt when you have no 2nd interupt, it's just not good on a mesmer. Pleak might be nice e-denial and stuff, but you do need a realiable interupt. 20 secs is too long when it's your only interupt. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  09:09, 5 March 2008 (EST)

GoE Nerf
GoE got smacked around with the nerfbat a little. Methinks it's fairly worthless now for a non-ele. Gaze Of Balthazar 19:30, 6 March 2008 (EST)
 * Or someone spamming Gale? &mdash; Rapta  [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] (talk|contribs) 19:36, 6 March 2008 (EST)
 * Either way, this build is dead. Moush 15:37, 15 March 2008 (EDT)