Build talk:N/Rt FA Pain of Disenchantment Healer

No. Vincent Evan [Air Henchman]   18:30, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * As helpful as always. Why instantly "no"?-.-. Ok,it indeed needs tweaking,but why no? For my opinion, do it a little bit more offensive. Get on your bar Cacophony,it's good for Gunther. Take cover hex too,it can be some anti-melee like Insidious or some aoe degen like suffering.Defile Flesh would work too,not a cover hex,but still good option. Take out either life or rejuvenation,one spirit seems enough,you must be more mobile! Instead of it blind was mingson seems ok for me. Triss 18:40, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Optional 2 should definitely be resilient weapon imo. The rest looks pretty good. Azazello 18:44, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Agree with Resilient thing,but having just 2 skills for Curses @12 makes me sad :(. Kick one spirit for another curse and we are fine I guess. Triss 18:45, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * just forget about spirits (it's not pve) and take more damage. taking care of conditions makes monking a breeze. (btw guess why Healing Breeze got nerfed) &#9823;Fianchetto [[Image:Mending.jpg|19px|link=User_talk:Fianchetto]] 21:16, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * shut up-- Relyk 21:46, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * YEAH, SHUT UP!  Rask ✂  ✂  ✂  ✂  22:51, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * you two should name your kids Rasyk and Relsk, i'll be godfather &#9823;Fianchetto [[Image:Mending.jpg|19px|link=User_talk:Fianchetto]] 02:25, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You are late to the party Fianchetto,they've already done that. Here they are: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=124C0nwAsgw Triss 08:11, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Let the butthurt flow through you.  Rask ✂  ✂  ✂  ✂  09:51, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes why not Fianchetto. Take out spirits when the only two heals you have depend on spirits. Yay, why didnt I think about that before? Chonsy Rulez  14:50, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * obviously you'll have to fix the spirit-dependent part. and you've just discovered why this won't fly &#9823;Fianchetto [[Image:Mending.jpg|19px|link=User_talk:Fianchetto]] 20:19, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Ok I need an OK for two things: 1) Resilient Weapon instead of Optional 2 and 2) More offensive skillbar taking out Rejuvenation for a second optional. Chonsy Rulez  14:50, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes mainbar resil. IMO take out WoW, bring recup and drop rejuv. Miharo 20:43, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Ran it 5 games, 4/5 wins, bar was:


 * Good healing, great energy, pod makes life suck for aoe monks, keeps turtles alive and moving really well. All in all the only 'complaints' I have are that monks are much better at keeping players and warriors up and kurzick tanks make me miss SB. Azazello 04:57, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Ok so I tested this for the banter, and was finding Spirit Light + MBAS to be annoyingly slow to cast. You do remember why rits use wielder's boon right? Chieftain Alex 00:38, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yep, needs more mainbar Wielders and less WoW Miharo 09:35, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Guys youre so chaotic. The only sure thing I must do is to mainbar Resilient. Then you talked about like 5 different versions of the build. Wtf? Chonsy Rulez  15:16, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Take rejuv and wow off so you have three optionals, list rejuv, wow, and pwk as optionals with the curses skills. Put wielders boon as a variant? I've never heard of anyone having trouble with MBaS/spirit light, and I've never tried running wielders boon on a secondary rit, but that solves the concerns listed here. Maybe take enfeeble out of optionals, if you're lurking around a turtle you have four copies of staggering blow, carrier defense, and four copies of coward to deal with melee. Plague sending doesn't fit very well with mbas and no ff, and defile flesh is outright better than barbs on this bar in this format. Azazello 17:02, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Because this totally can't fit resto skills
hurrrr.  Rask ✂  ✂  ✂  ✂  09:55, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Well yeah, this is the exact same bar as that one, minus all the bad FA skills. Azazello 10:53, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Why do you think I put this build? To quote Azazello's very own quote: "I could throw PoD on an empty bar and do everything important this bar does". The PoD Support bar sucks apart from PoD itself. Chonsy Rulez  14:47, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * That's because FA sucks bro.  Rask ✂  ✂  ✂  ✂  15:24, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * If FA was full of good players it would be the funniest game mode in GW. Unfortunately, it isnt, and when I play Kurz side its basically a shooting gallery. Chonsy Rulez  15:44, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Just because you read some random person's opinion on the internet doesn't mean you should do it. Congratulations, someone pointed out the power of general utility when it comes to enchantment removal. It's nothing new whatsoever, and if you think just because he said that "PoD can be fitted onto any bar" does not mean you should go and make all the builds that come to your mind. That is pure idiocy. Also, no. Vincent Evan [Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 00:40, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * YEAH! NO!  Rask ✂  ✂  ✂  ✂  02:24, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * lol what are you talking about Vincent? I got the idea by myself. I only remembered later of the quote by Azazello. Also, you could explain us why no, instead of doing completely useless statements, right? Chonsy <font color="DarkRed">Rulez  15:16, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * no-- Relyk 19:01, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * we aint no guru.  Rask ✂  ✂  ✂  ✂  19:04, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * no. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 20:31, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * no. -- Jai .  -  20:51, March 29 2012 (UTC)
 * Then I ask myself why I rage with you <font color="DarkRed">Chonsy <font color="DarkRed">Rulez  10:54, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Because you're so annoying you irritate yourself? --Silven Shadow 11:24, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * That said by the most annoying person in the world is worth shit <font color="DarkRed">Chonsy <font color="DarkRed">Rulez  13:44, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * alol --Silven Shadow 10:10, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Testing
Yes. Also maybe make Wielder's mainbar so you don't have 3 optionals. Miharo 23:01, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, since it has been in trial for like one week and noone said nothing, yes. I dont know if Wielder's should be Mainbar, though, but I must admit 3 optionals is not that good. [[Image:40px-Crippling Shot.jpg|19px]] <font color="DarkGreen">Chonsy <font color="DarkGreen">Rulez  12:59, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * It goes hand-in-hand with resilient and you shouldn't pack more than two curses skills in total IMO, otherwise you end up being unfocused. The first optional should be a curses skill and the second a spirit/ashes/another weapon. Miharo 17:42, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok done [[Image:40px-Crippling Shot.jpg|19px]] <font color="DarkGreen">Chonsy <font color="DarkGreen">Rulez  18:02, 4 April 2012 (UTC)