Archive talk:Me/W FA AoD

Might want a cover hex for AoD/IoP. Frustration should be on monks, and ether is gonna be being drained for energy. So maybe like phantom or shrinking for cover+effect(Tho frag fits the spot as easy cover also). otherwise looks solid. Roland 22:15, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Look, there are optionals :O Shadow 22:24, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Fragility IS strong, but without any conditions on yourself, depending on your team in FA may not be a viable option. Might I be so bold to suggest switching Fragility for Phantom Pain in optionals? :p -- [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px|link=User:Chieftain Alex]] Chieftain  Alex  22:30, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * ^That was more what I meant..I referred to the optionals twice.. Roland 00:41, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Just add Phantom Pain if you think it's worth it. But, keep in mind, both skills have a different purpose. Phantom Pain would be a decent change over Acccumulated Pain rather than Fragility. As for Fragility, I've gotten either really awesome results with it, or just keeping it as a cover hex. Normally one way or another, a condition will trigger Frag. Vincent Evan [Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 16:14, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Ups, my bad I never even saw accumulated in optionals. Yah that's fine. Roland 23:12, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I can't help feeling that your secondary could be better use than Shield Bash. Kracatoan 15:20, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

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Feels empty now. Is anything worth moving up to it or should we just leave 3 optionals? -- Toraen   confer  02:48, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * there's always fast cast Vapor Blade for giggles &#9823;Fianchetto [[Image:Mending.jpg|19px|link=User_talk:Fianchetto]] 02:53, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The synergies would be impressive, I'll give you that. -- Toraen   confer  02:54, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * needs more rupts, 94 dmg Frustration will be op . Leech Sig, Dshot/Power Lock, Web of Disruption + Drain. at least Leech i think &#9823;Fianchetto [[Image:Mending.jpg|19px|link=User_talk:Fianchetto]] 03:03, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * (EC)Ether Feast probably, seeing as it's FA. (and designed for Luxon.) Go for Power Return b/c lol Frustration + 7r rupt? Pew   Pew ♥   03:07, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * It doesn't get double damage in PvP. Bringing another interrupt is fine though. -- Toraen   confer  03:18, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * This should honestly just be archived. IoP was a massive pressure inducer and with it nerfed, there is no other illusion skill to take its place. This build was mediocre with IoP as it was, and while the rupts would be nice, the pressure outputted from it would still be sub par. <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]  [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 18:52, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * +1. <font color="Black">Miharo 08:54, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
 * +2. Just not worth taking Illusion mesmers in PvP anymore [[Image:40px-Crippling Shot.jpg|19px]] <font color="DarkGreen">Chonsy <font color="DarkGreen">Rulez  09:31, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
 * +3. without IoP, this build really became subpar. Dacookiemaster 13:04, 15 April 2012 (UTC)