User talk:Cuilan1

Karate  Jesus  22:17, 31 January 2010

Asking people before you steal their userpage template
Is polite :> Stealing Lau's userpage template is a joke by now, though, so nobody minds. -- Chaos?  -- 19:29, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * So much so I made a stealable user template :p - Athrun Feya [[Image:Lau_bfly.gif]] - 19:35, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Omg, the Internet police are at my door.Cuilan 19:37, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * They just want the cute picture on your page. -- Chaos?  -- 19:39, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

A little reminder
"Troll voting" as you did on is still a violation of policy and users have been banned for it in the past. I understand the point you were trying to make, but I wouldn't make it a habit. Karate  Jesus  15:49, 14 April 2010

You can't do that either, sorry. You can archive this page. If you need help doing that, just let me know. Karate  Jesus  13:33, 18 April 2010
 * ...why? And I don't see any archive buttons. Cuilan 14:42, April 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * There is none. PvX:ARCHIVE is why. You just create a page called User talk:Cuilan/Archive 1 and move text there until it becomes too big. Then create an Archive 2, etc. -- Chaos?  -- 16:46, April 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * This is really stupid. Cuilan 04:11, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay. Stick around for a few months and you'll probably think not. -- Chaos?  -- 08:35, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * If we didn't do that, people would have pages over 300kb (which some people can't load) and others would have completely blank talk pages all the time...which is unproductive on a wiki.
 * However, you're always welcome to use Gamependium (although, they're shut down to new builds). Karate [[File:KJ for sig.png]] Jesus  15:14, 19 April 2010
 * They don't accept registrations. Cuilan 02:25, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

You still haven't removed Danny's rating. It doesn't even mention anything about the team build. I don't rate builds poorly because they aren't apart of how I spend most time playing. Rating farming builds poor because they're farming builds and I don't farm. I would be banned for that if I did, so I would expect the same for people who rate this poorly. Cuilan 00:58, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm talking to him now on MSN, because i'd rather he change his vote instead of me simply removing it. As i did with everyone's (except one persons because it only just made sense).  ~ PheNaxKian talk  01:02, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Of course you're also forgetting to remove the people who give invalid reasons like "No splinter lolwtf" and "lol@8manteams". Also invalid. These things have been explained in depth, that they're variants. Minion Splinter Weapon.jpg Excluded 01:11, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Still waiting. Cuilan 02:09, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

could you explain how you got to some of those conclusions in your vote? Personally, I didn't have energy problems when I ran it (I ran Echo and AoS as optional). If you do have energy problems, there's enough suggestions in the build (Lyssa's, AoS, insp magic line). As for the elites: MoR and Echo just increase the spammability of the 100+ armor ignoring aoe spells (though anet are buffing them anyway soon). Ineptitude isnt anything special at the moment but i cba removing it since it's getting a megabuff soon. Fevered says next to it "if you're in a condition-heavy party" conditions to trigger frags/fevered can quite easily come from the 7 other builds in your party, while you actually do damage through wandering/clumsi/cop. - <font color="SteelBlue">Athrun <font color="Black">Feya  - 19:53, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Going by what the bar and optional have and that it isn't in trial. I'll go in more detail later in a bit, but wanding is one thing. Cuilan 20:21, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * That was fairly unexpected. Oh well. Cuilan 23:30, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Your Vote on Build:Me/any Keystone Signet
I analysed your vote and I saw that you had some fair points, some people had been adding bad optionals and ruining the build. I have narrowed down the optionals and mainbarred Mantra, I thank you for your feedback, now please can you change your vote? Thanks --<font color="Black">(Talk) 18:24, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

Archive:Team - UW Physway
It's not in SC category and the regular time is about 2 hours, nearly the same of speed clears. And you don't even need cons for this if emos take Glyph of Swiftness too. Much more cheaper, much more PUG friendly, much fail-safe. Don't agree with your vote. Also, you didn't drop the category to good. <font color="Blue">Ju <font color="Blue">ze  06:32, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * You do have to use an essence. You need all the enchants you can get for 4H.  Minion Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg Excluded 06:38, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't worry Juze, he's trolling. :p--<font color="MidnightBlue">Digital Digitalfear_Sig.jpg<font color="SteelBlue">Fear  13:54, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * PUG friendly team builds shouldn't fail half the time they're used by the people who are accustomed to such a set up and its builds. You think PUGs or even guilds with average players can make it? Cuilan 14:58, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Make wut? That build can easily clear UW in an hour or less but much more reliably and you don't have to train your terras beforehand so it's easier to assemble; everyone knows how to play those bars because they are used everywhere. More fun too, killing an Aataxe in one dagger combo is priceless. The fuck you're comparing it to a SC anyway? Makes no sense. --<font color="HotPink">Iggy 's other account 16:31, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * "Used everywhere" and "reliably" lulz. Cuilan 17:13, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * u mad? --<font color="HotPink">Iggy 's other account 18:37, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * [[File:Ceec9.jpg]] Cuilan 01:39, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's definitely unreliable at the moment, due to bad ERs and general lack-of. Minion Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg Excluded 07:59, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

You should change your vote. Click on Rate then change it with explination. Just remove the speed clear part. Also try this build with a proper E/Mo.---<font color="#0000ff"> X <font color="#696969"> TREME 10:53, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Cuilan knows it works, he's been using it for months along with me, Roarer, Digitalqu33r and Arrogant (And guild/alliance) He's probably trying to preserve it for as long as possible ;P Minion Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg Excluded 12:47, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Excluded Faggot might be right actually. :p --<font color="MidnightBlue">Digital Digitalfear_Sig.jpg<font color="SteelBlue">Fear  13:59, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Noob.
ubad--<font color="MidnightBlue">Digit0l <font color="SteelBlue">Qu33r  18:40, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Funny Shit
That you post on that UW build :) make me laugh pretty hard. -- Graz Says   Its time to DoA  18:48, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Eh. I removed most of the useless stuff and filled in optionals. Now deals a bunch of aoe-lifesteal + aoe holy damage. Care to take another look? Zyke 02:13, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Archive:Me/any PvE Domination Mesmer
you trashed a generic domination bar. Are you fucking stupid?-- Relyk 02:28, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * First two skills on that bar are shite. Nobody wants to spend a second and a half casting those in pve when you could be cruising onto the next mob. Mistrust and Chaos storm doesn't really make a build - unnatural signet belongs on a hero. its a trashworthy bar. -- [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px|link=User:Chieftain Alex]] <font face="Calibri" color="Black" size="2.5">Chieftain <font face="Calibri" color=CC6633 size="2.5"> Alex  08:59, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The bar is really bad. And whatever said above. Cuilan 17:27, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

You are
my sunshine, my only sunshine. You make me happy, when skies are grey. You don't know dear, how much I love you. So please don't take my sunshine away. 05:23, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * ^ That was sarcasm btw, you're a pox on our wiki. [[Image:They.jpg|36px|link=User:They]] 21:44, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Calling me pox when you give poor ratings to great builds out of spite. Cuilan

I'll always love you and make you happy if you will only stay the same.

But if you leave me to love another you'll regret it all some day. --<font color=6C87A3>jī·gō·dǔ -  22:10, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Voting badly on Imbagon
Troll voting is not justified regardless of the point you are trying to make with it. In the unlikely event that you were being sincere, please try to understand a build's purpose before voting on it. -- Toraen   confer  21:47, 28 May 2012 (UTC) . If the admin is not neutral, there's no arbitration, and it is not an admin. <font color="DarkGoldenRod" size="2px">Silen†  17:58, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Tell that to They. Cuilan 21:48, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * You know that there's a proper way to contest votes right (and the AN for if they don't want to participate)? If you aren't going to put in the effort to debate your views on a build with others why should I do that on your behalf? As polar as Rask's votes are, he does provide relevant reasoning for his ratings so I don't have the right to remove his votes without discussion. -- Toraen   confer  22:06, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * All nonsense since my vote is removed while They's remains on the FD build. Cuilan 22:13, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Fevered Dreams? Lol. [[Image:They.jpg|36px|link=User:They]] 22:15, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * You're just going to ignore the whole, "Troll voting is not how to get your way", lesson then? Your vote was clearly a revenge/troll vote, while They's isn't. Start by trying to convince him that he's wrong if you want to get anywhere. -- Toraen   confer  22:23, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * He knew I voted highly of FD and not highly for Panic, so he troll voted with reasoning only damage related. There isn't any way to convince him since he's pretty clearly stuck in his view and you've already picked your side. Cuilan 22:28, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't kid yourself, his vote has nothing to do with you. Rask, at best, voted on that build because it popped up (by me, mind you) in Recent Ratings. --<font color=6C87A3>jī·gō·dǔ -  22:33, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually Frosty mentioned cuilan's vote on msn, I went to check out the FD build and then voted 2-2 since it's a shitty version of panic. Pretty sure you can fit FH and epidemic on a panic bar and shut down a million times better and still spam AoE DW and cracked armor on groups. Cuilan, maybe instead of getting emotional you should look at both builds objectively, FD was a gimmick that worked well before the mesmer update, but there are better options now. I can understand liking a certain build, but liking something has jack shit to do with storing it on the wiki. Plus the build is still in good, dunno why you're throwing a tantrum. [[Image:They.jpg|36px|link=User:They]] 01:02, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I've already objectively looked at both FD and Panic. You're screwing with what sections/tags builds. Fevered Dreams is very much comparable to Panic in that is shuts down physicals, snares, and doesn't care about what the foes are using or if they already moved around. You claim you can still spam DW and CA, but you're the one into AoE. Cuilan 02:09, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * tl;dr admins want discussion for defending their views (friends) and removal of what they don't agree with from people they don't give a shit about. Cuilan 02:12, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm the one who's stuck in my own view? You're blatantly accusing the admins of favoritism when I give them more work to do than anyone else. lulz [[Image:They.jpg|36px|link=User:They]] 02:36, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Was speaking overall, not just this situation. Cuilan 02:53, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * So was rask. <font color=6C87A3>jī·gō·dǔ -  2:59, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Uh huh. Cuilan 03:15, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The whispering weasel has spoken. [[Image:They.jpg|36px|link=User:They]] 12:52, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Accusing admins of favoritism is not exactly the best way to get on well with them, and in that case theyre not going to favorite you. P.S. Why do you call Jai the whispering weasel rask? lol <font color="DarkGoldenRod" size="2px">Silen†  13:14, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Nobody should have to "get on well" with them. Cuilan 17:16, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * While I can't speak for others, why would we care if people think we play favourites (or not)? <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  16:55, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Maybe time to step down if you have to ask that? Cuilan 17:22, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Learn to read please. He says they don't care what people think of them, because they know what they are. Aside from inevitable bias that comes from being part of the human race, Phen and Toraen and Misery are about as neutral as they come. --<font color=6C87A3>jī·gō·dǔ -  17:26, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Learn to read...um, what? Cuilan 21:34, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Sadly I am easily bribed. <font color="Black">Frostels 17:44, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * And Big will ban you simply because he doesn't like you.-- Relyk 19:03, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * My point was why would your (or any users) opinion about us (individually or as a whole) effect how we act towards you? If someone thinks we're biased we're not going to ban for it (unless they stir up an unnecessary amount of drama. There are correct ways to raise concerns about the admin team and drama isn't one of them). <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  19:48, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Again, doesn't work on this site. Cuilan 21:34, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * What I meant is that if, for some strange reason I dont know about, an admin favorites some people while hates someone else, you shouldnt accuse them of favoritism, because in that case they wouldnt favorite you. However its just a supposition. How can you even think that an admin is not neutral? If an admin is not neutral it is not an admin anymore: "The moderators (short singular form: "mod") are users (or employees) of the forum who are granted access to the posts and threads of all members for the purpose of moderating discussion (similar to arbitration)"

(reset indent) From a completely objective standpoint, I saw this thread, went through and after only reading enough of this section to understand what to look for, checked out the votes. I looked at your vote cuilan, on the imbagon, and immediately thought, "What the hell is he thinking?". The point of an imbagon is to protect the party. Then I went to fevered dreams to see Rask's vote. His vote focused on damage as well; however, he also takes into consideration the clunky prep time. When it was brought up on the talk page, jai, torean, and relyk provided reasoning, regardless of whether it is flawed it is a reason. There is no way you could possibly reason that an imbagon is a 2-2 on the basis of no damage. This leads me to believe your vote was a troll vote to stir up drama. Finally, I checked your vote on panic. It appears to have been removed on the basis that spell immunity messes with everything, and one meta build not having synergy with it is not a reason to down-vote it. The first portion of that is a misunderstanding, but all-in-all, there are very few times when that would be a problem with the build. It was also rejustified on the talk page by another admin. This brings me back to this talk page. Reading through it you seem to admit that the vote on the imbagon was a troll, drawing more attention to the vote removal of yours on panic compared to the lack of removal of rask's on FD. Based on my observations, rask's vote is completely normal for him. Check how he has voted for any other builds in the past. I don't think he was trying to troll you before you retaliated. Now the users here seem to have come together against you. It's probably because you are technically at fault. As torean, and many others have pointed out, trolling is not the way to dispute a vote. You bring it up on the talk page, and as you already have, I don't see any reason why you should dispute with them any longer. Just run the bar you like the best and forget about this stupid argument.-- Ultimak719 LIKE A BOSS!  22:08, 29 May 2012 (UTC)


 * tl;dr - From an objective standpoint, Cuilan, you followed all the procedures for getting a vote fixed and you were declined. Your fault was that you then started creating troll votes. This, of course, makes the pvx users not respect you. So, of course it seems like they are all banding together against you, because they see you as a troll. By continuing a useless argument you are just seen as even less respectable. I would say give it up, your build is already in good and is stored, and if you want to run it, you can even if it isn't considered "great".-- Ultimak719 LIKE A BOSS!  22:08, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Nothing wrong with a 2-2 rating as I could argue single target damage is shit. It's only the fact it's a troll vote by Cuilan in response to Chopagon to stir up drama with Rask.-- Relyk 23:22, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * It's kind of hard to stir up drama with me when your argument screams incompetence and vendetta. [[Image:They.jpg|36px|link=User:They]] 23:29, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Warning: Rainbows and unicorns will cause they to rage and kick up a shitstorm.- Relyk 00:38, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Adventure Time combines both of those and I love it so whatever. [[Image:They.jpg|36px|link=User:They]] 01:25, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Would make sense if I knew what this had to do with Chopagon. You have nothing to back up your view that I'm in anyway incompetent. Cuilan 04:05, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

See, here is the funny part of all this to me. Here is me warning They not to do basically exactly what Cuilan did on the Chopagon, when he troll voted on his own build, a Chopasin actually, to make some kind of statement. Then he did it again on another build, which resulted in this:


 * 07:32, 2 May 2012 Misery (Talk | contribs | block) blocked They (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of 1 week (account creation disabled) ‎ (Pretty sure I told you not to use votes to make statements) (unblock | change block)

Now Cuilan did the same thing more or less and got warned. His response, we are playing favourites because we don't like him and like They. Reality would seem to suggest They and Cuilan have received more or less exactly the same treatment. Ups. I guess that means I should ban Cuilan because I am biased. A new misery 07:18, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

"Jeydraway"
Not sure if i agree with those ele bars as they are. I feel like there's a lot of room for improvement. LifeGuardian (talk) 05:54, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * What about them can be improved, what do you not agree with, and why? Cuilan1 (talk) 07:28, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I had something going but my suggestions turned out to be smaller than I originally thought. I think id bring another copy of spirit light on the EA because it feels like a waste to spec into resto and then only bring kaolai. I'd swap out one of the fireballs for Incendiary Bonds for another source of burning(probably on the EA). The SF bar has too many offensive spells. You want it spamming SF and with that bar a lot of the time it wont be. Outside of that my issue is more with the amount of barspace that eles have for support skills and the necessity of microing mimicry. I'll leave what I've been running lately and you can tell me what you think. The other 3 bars are pretty much the same as yours but with SoA>SB and either curse support, para support, or eoe/FS on the SoGM in place of 6 and 7. I feel like I'm too heavy on defense but I've really been liking smiters lately. LifeGuardian (talk) 12:30, 19 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I suppose I could bring Spirit Light on that bar if I find myself needing it. I don't find myself microing Mimicry most of the time as they seem to maintain it. Relying on Drain Enchantment as an energy skill with an item bundle sounds hard on energy. A mob may not have any or many enchantments. Cuilan1 (talk) 00:17, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Wait heroes use mimicry on their own? On the right person? And sorry I just copied what i currently had on my heroes, that's usually power drain. LifeGuardian (talk) 04:52, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 * They use it on their own and seem to Mimicry based on attribute of elites. I generally AP or Invoke with heroes. Cuilan1 (talk) 09:03, 20 December 2013 (UTC)