Talk:PvX wiki/Archive 9

Database
Aww f***. 2 weeks of work gone. 15:18, 11 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Shit happens eh? -- Frosty  15:19, 11 September 2008 (EDT)
 * i have to remake caboose? that sux... btw, will let you know when i make it. Ace (LVPoW)  15:21, 11 September 2008 (EDT)
 * btw, is someone gonna restore phenaxkian or do we have to go through this all over again? CABOSE (LVPoW) "Hey chicka bum bum!" 15:33, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

holy f*** I just got my userpage working how I like it. Holy mother of christ i didnt even save it... ℓγssάή is  ѕяѕ  вѕήѕ   19:59, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

=O
DOES THIS MEAN ALL THE CUTE MCPOKEMON ARE BACK? =DD 70.15.5.207 21:38, 11 September 2008 (EDT)
 * i don't think "Error creating thumbnail: convert: unable to open image `/var/www/w/images/1/1a/Frosty_Diglett.gif': No such file or directory." where frosty's diglett would be supports that. CABOSE (LVPoW) "Hey chicka bum bum!" 21:57, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

couple of things that need fixing
This applies to admin only I'm afraid. The right PvE featured builds need aligning, and the sort by profession links need aligning vertically =p (I would but I have no clue what's wrong with em.) PheNaxKian Sysop   10:24, 12 September 2008 (EDT)


 * Check table cell widths. If the left half of the featured builds on the bottom is wider than the left half on the top, it would of course shove over the right half on the bottom farther than on the top. As for the sort by profession links... Try putting the actual professions into two columns, and the team link centered underneath. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 11:34, 12 September 2008 (EDT)
 * The problem is that particular section is made up of three divs in a table. That third section contains a table inside of the div that refuses to conflict with the image of the scroll. If you change the width="100%" at the beginning of that table to something like width="75%" that will fix it I think. Check and see. Also, you might want to check the valigns on the two columns in that table. One is "center" and the other is "top"; that probably isn't right. - [[Image:Panic_sig5.png]] 11:56, 12 September 2008 (EDT)
 * I think I've "fixed" them both. They may be slightly off (both trial and professions), but they're not massively noticeable. PheNaxKian Sysop   12:49, 12 September 2008 (EDT)


 * Exactly what I suspected was the problem. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 11:34, 13 September 2008 (EDT)

Lack of a working search Add-on
When I drop down the search box in my browser toolbar and click "Add Pvxwiki (English)" I get an error message (example: "Firefox could not download the search plugin from: http://www.pvxwiki.com/search.xml" - I tried it in IE, too, and got a similar error). Every other site I know of, including guildwiki, has this feature working. This isn't something a user could add, so I'm wondering if there's any administrative interest in adding it. --War Pig5 22:30, 30 September 2008 (EDT)


 * If you try looking at the link it provides, you'll likely find nothing there. There's better ways of searching PvX, which we're working on. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 00:20, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
 * I agree with Armond, the provided link should also have a wiki formatting code regarding that thing, I suggest looking for the code and then "Ctrl & F5" to refresh your cache. --  W o  B  [[Image:User Wings of Blood sig icon.png|19px]] 20:41, 14 October 2008 (EDT)

Paragons.
Hi there, I don't know where to add this but we need paragon builds. If I make any good ones other than Imbagon, I will add them on PvX but I am looking for a para running build atm and my alliance nor PvX has one. :( If someone could make a makeshift one for now, that would be great. :D--Sam6555 10:47, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Prefixindex/Build:P/ yw. - [[Image:Panic_sig5.png]] 10:54, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Thing is, I was mainly looking for a running build, and i've looked all though those and none really made me go Wow, i'll try that one out :P I'll just carry on with my special ibagon build for now, till someone posts a para running build. :D Thanks anyway mate --Sam6555 13:30, 3 October 2008 (EDT)


 * Paras aren't that great at running things - leave that to shadow form assassins. For the rest of PvE, why would you run anything other than an imbagon? :p -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 18:55, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * i believe his point is that guild wars is a game. you're supposed to have fun, so why not try something new? in this case, a running para. it simply hasn't been tried, save for my build, due to pvx elitists. Steve (LVPoW) I'm stalking you... 19:01, 3 October 2008 (EDT)


 * Well, fine, try it in-game if you want, but PvX is for documenting the best builds. We don't store paragon farmers simply because we don't have any of them; we don't store them because they're bad. -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 19:04, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * define bad please. Steve (LVPoW) I'm stalking you... 19:05, 3 October 2008 (EDT)


 * It's a subjective term. :/ But the closest you'll get is "works worse than an alternative with a similar goal". -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 19:16, 3 October 2008 (EDT)


 * I ask for something for a class thats really good, but no-one has and I get flamed for asking? There must be some paragon lovers out there, I know of 2 just in my alliance. They deserve to be noticed, even though they get nerfed at times, what if I wanna run as something different to a warr sometimes? There snothing. :( --Sam6555 19:19, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * how can there be an alternative if there is none to pick from? Steve (LVPoW) I'm stalking you... 19:21, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Hi. PvX is an independent website.  We're not the sole arbiter of Guild Wars builds, we just host good ones.  In fact, we have no control over the builds people use at all.  You want an alternative?  You can make one.  It's easy.  Just open up Guild Wars and stick skills together until you find something that works.  I promise we won't stop you.
 * @Sam: Paragons aren't particularly good at running since so much of their stuff is focused on party support. Maybe something with Hasty Refrain and a couple of short-lived shouts, I don't know. --71.229 19:33, 3 October 2008 (EDT)


 * Where are these flames, Sam? People disagreeing with you doesn't mean they're flaming.
 * Also, people who ignore the most overpowered class in the game make me lol. Your alliance only has two para-lovers? Either your alliance is really small, or... -- Armond Warblade[[Image:Armond sig image.png]] 19:41, 3 October 2008 (EDT)


 * Ahh well thanks guys, just have to make my own....who knows if people like it, it may appear on here. And our alliance grows day by day, for all I know the whole alliance might be para-lovers, it's just at the times I asked for like how paras runed thier armors, they are the only 2 to reply and actually talk with me. :P Even though they are already good friends both called Sarah. XD --Sam6555 22:00, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Well seeing how I have EVERY Paragon skill, I'll make one for you =]. --  W o  B  [[Image:User Wings of Blood sig icon.png|19px]] 20:39, 14 October 2008 (EDT)

So how bout them scroll over descrips...
Ive asked many a time and have been told many a time that some dude was working on making a database for PvX... well WTF is he almost done? People have offered to help and were told that they couldn't. Also these discrips are much older than Aug 7 update... I think they go back to before June. I would also like to add that the following site has up to date scroll over descriptions and that we dont have to use gwshack... http://gw.gamependium.com/tools/builds/ 17:25, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
 * All descriptions are controlled by GWShack, and they update descriptions slower than continental drift. Hhhippo is working on our own skills database, but until then, you'll have to live with it and keep up-to-date on skills. --[[Image:GoD_Hammer_and_Sickle.jpg|19px]]  Guild  of   Deals   17:27, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
 * GCard. And he's got various things going on RL still. It's done when it's done, leave it at that. As for people offering to help, unless they have a lot of scripting experience, I'm sure the help is none existent. PheNaxKian <font color="#9400D3">Sysop   17:29, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
 * fair enough... but again i draw your attention here --> http://gw.gamependium.com/tools/builds/  their skills are up-to-date and have been for a long time.  Despite being a low-key GW site, they stay up-to-date with the game.  Is it possible to switch over to them? 17:37, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
 * It's not that simple -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 17:39, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
 * well its probably easier than making an entire new database, no? Sorry about complaining, but the hover over descriptions really bother me and id like to help out in fixing this shit up.17:46, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
 * As far as I'm aware, gamependium don't make their code available (they might, but nothings visible on the site), plus it would mean re coding PvXcode, to work with the new skill code. I;ve actually looked at the GWBBshack site, they've released an update (it's more recent than our version anyway, not sure if it's up to date), i'll leave hippo a message and see if he can get it updated when he gets a chance. <font color="#4F94CD">PheNaxKian <font color="#9400D3">Sysop   18:02, 6 October 2008 (EDT)

Plz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnlgegDh_w4&feature=related Listen to this. Then everyone on the wiki will be happy! --Bim (talk|contribs) 21:35, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
 * that is soo fake. he just played random note son a piano without sound, then recorded over it the orrigional song.--[[Image:You Killed Kenny.jpg|19px]] OMG! You Killed Kenny!  22:31, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
 * HOW DARE YOU SPEAK AGAINST THE GREAT MAN WHO IS ANDREW W K --[[Image:Bim_sig.PNG|19px]]Bim (talk|contribs) 17:25, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
 * The talk page isn't for advertising random videos, it's for discussions pertaining to the Wiki. Keep it to the Talk page of users. --[[Image:GoD_Hammer_and_Sickle.jpg|19px]] <small style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Verdana;border-style:solid;border-width:2px;border-color:red;background-color:gold;padding:0px 5px 1px 6px;"> Guild  of   Deals   17:26, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
 * keep it to the forums/MSN... <font color="#4F94CD">PheNaxKian <font color="#9400D3">Sysop   17:28, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
 * That song is so fake! xD --  W <font color="#660000">o  B  [[Image:User Wings of Blood sig icon.png|19px]] 20:37, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Shaddup.  —ǥrɩɳsɧƴ ɖɩđđɭɘş  [[Image:Grinshpon blinky cake.gif|19px]] 11:55, 18 October 2008 (EDT)

pvxwiki is very
communistic. Everything is for the greater good of the community. <font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  11:46, 17 October 2008 (EDT)
 * socialism ftw? Karate Jesus 11:49, 17 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Bush hates u [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  11:56, 17 October 2008 (EDT)

blood sacrifice
while i was browsing through the wiki, i observed that skills like "blood is power" which need you to sacrifice an amount of health don't show that in the skill description, like in die gw-wikia, where there is a drop of blood with the amount in the same column like cast-time and energy-cost     16:05, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Originally, the sacrifice costs were included in the descriptions of the skills, but Guild Wars (and thus the wikis) removed those from the descriptions and added an icon for it. PvXwiki is pretty behind on skill descriptions, and probably haven't implemented the sac costs, yet. ــмıкε  нaшк  16:38, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Apparently it's our code. Just have to wait for GCard or Hippo to get round to it, remember they have other things that take priority (search engine for Hippo, and GCards RL (otherwise I think he's working on the skill database)). <font color="#4F94CD"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#9400D3">Sysop   16:47, 20 October 2008 (EDT)

error 500 - internal error
I've been getting this quite a lot the last couple of days. Is it me or are others getting them? <font color="#4F94CD"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#9400D3">Sysop   12:29, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
 * I'm getting them too, on normal page loads and on sysop tools. It's kind of annoying. - Auron 12:39, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Yes, a shitload, I got one when I hit edit to edit this page. - Misery  Is  Friendly  [[image:Misery Dog obaby.gif|19px]] 12:40, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
 * usually happens whenever i view/edit a talkpage. but once, it's happened when i tried to view a non discussion page.... aftermath of the hack or something with the server? ☆Imbagon♥McSteve☆(LVPoW)Cuz Steve said so... ツ 18:47, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
 * It only happens when I stay on a certain page for a while, then go to another page on the wiki, and it is damn annoying. -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 18:51, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Gotten Error 500 literally every time I click a link. -- Shazam  The  Snake    [[Image:Shazam_The_Snake.png]]  join my trip to Nova's house for whatever personal reasons you may have, and maybe get her back on PvX 00:59, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Happens, but not too often...  11:38, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
 * The problem is, it is getting too often now. Every 5 pages I click I get one, when it would be 1 per 50 clicked at the most. My theory is the server is crashing soon. This happened the last time just before the hacker attack fiasco.<font color="#FDD017" face="blackadder itc">Pika <font color="#FDD017" face="blackadder itc">Fan [[image:lightningbolt_sig.jpg|19x19px]] 11:59, 24 October 2008 (EDT)
 * I've been getting it too -- a little more than is bearable at times. For a second, I thought it was my computer and I was a little freaked out, but it IS just this site.  I'm not sure what it is, but the idea that it's a result from the massive hack fest not too long ago isn't too farfetched in my eyes.  KaHasuken 18:25, 25 October 2008 (EDT)

Help. :)
Ok so, I know most about userpages like userboxes and linking stuff, and making builds. But, still need to know another thing. How do I make stuff on my userpage where I can put profiles of all my 10 chars? :> I would like to know this to make my PvX page even better, all help appreciated here. :D --Sam6555 22:01, 13 November 2008 (EST)
 * Make a page for each character. Also, you sig needs to link to either your user page or your talk page. 20:29, 14 November 2008 (EST)
 * How do I go about making my sig link to my user/talk page/s. If I want my sig to be 'sam6555' and the whole thing to be for my user page, what and where do I write it? --Sam6555 11:47, 28 November 2008 (EST)
 * :O How come it now links to it?............ --Sam6555 11:48, 28 November 2008 (EST)

Skill database
How's it coming up?  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ  14:10, 28 November 2008 (EST)
 * last I heard (which was a while ago) it's 80% done, only Hippo or GCard could tell you exactly (probably only GCard because he was the one working on it) <font color="#4F94CD"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#9400D3">Sysop   14:21, 28 November 2008 (EST)
 * I wonder why it is so slow to update. Just write a script to rip guildwiki's template source (I'v done that, it took images also, it's not hard) and another to put it slighly modified to here? Vazde 15:35, 28 November 2008 (EST)
 * by database he doesn't mean skill descriptions, he means our own database, so we don't relay on GWShack (as we do now), and the community (or trusted members of) would keep it up to date. As for the GWW/Gwiki rip, we've considered it, but it'd strain resources doing that, having to call information from another website/page iirc. <font color="#4F94CD"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#9400D3">Sysop   16:04, 28 November 2008 (EST)
 * And ripping them from GWiki/GWWiki would take up a LOT of their bandwidth, and rely on them to be active to get them. And its just ya know, not right?  20:05, 28 November 2008 (EST)

Indian Wisdom No. 3
If you're sitting on a dead horse... get off.--‎<font color="Darkgreen">W n  <font color="Lightgreen">T c  undefined 12:50, 29 November 2008 (EST)
 * This isn't your talk page. Stop spamming it with useless shit. -- 13:31, 29 November 2008 (EST)
 * still, its one of the advertisements, i find it very funny.--[[Image:FT GTU.jpg.png|18x18px]]‎<font color="Darkgreen">W n  <font color="Lightgreen">T c  undefined 15:51, 29 November 2008 (EST)
 * That's what your user/talkpage is for. If you keep this up you will get blocked eventually. ~ <font color="#444">ĐONT <font color="#444">* <font color="#444">SYSOP  15:55, 29 November 2008 (EST)
 * god i hate that guy. But im saying, its an advertisement. And im discussing the advertisements of this wiki on the wikis talk page.--[[Image:FT GTU.jpg.png|18x18px]]‎<font color="Darkgreen">W n  <font color="Lightgreen">T c  undefined 17:36, 29 November 2008 (EST)
 * ups  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 17:39, 29 November 2008 (EST)
 * speaking of ads, i find it a bit hypocritical that the site's based on guild wars, but the ads are on tribal wars.... ☆Imbagon♥McSteve☆(LVPoW)Cuz Steve said so... ツ 22:50, 30 November 2008 (EST)
 * Pvx=hypocritic. Dontcha know? |  Intemet  Internet  |  14:40, 1 December 2008 (EST)

The ads are google adword generated, we can't request GW only ads... <font color="#4F94CD"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#9400D3">Sysop   15:17, 1 December 2008 (EST)
 * thgen have Guild Wars advertise.--[[image:FireTocksig2.jpg|19px]]‎ F r  T c  Rules! 22:34, 1 December 2008 (EST)
 * No? That would be a terrible choice for ANet, as anyone on here already HAS Guild Wars. And whats wrong with them? Before Razer we had Google ads.  06:37, 2 December 2008 (EST)

Where did the builds go?
Hi i have noticed that both Warrior Dragon Slash Builds have vanished from the site. As both builds were very viable i wonder where they have gone. I cannot find the builds in the archived section. Especially the DS/Save Yourself spammer saved me countless times in Hard Mode and should be restored to the site. Irkm Desmet 03:43, 1 December 2008 (EST)
 * Forget it i was blind and found the builds. But i think i should take the build discussion up here. The two builds were archived because a new build tried to unify the two. Which is not a good idea in my opinion. Nearly the only thing the two builds have in common is DS. Unifying them looses us two good build for one that is so undefined that you could just say 'take DS and some other skills'. What irks me is that this has happened before and the builds were restored afterwards. Irkm Desmet 03:46, 1 December 2008 (EST)

Guild Wars
is for fun. We need a section for fun (or as you people would say, 'brave'), stupid, gimmiky, and goofy builds. http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_UW_Rider <--- just one example of a build i would put there. I know pople can use their user page, etc. but i would like to see a centralized section for goofy builds. Just a thought. Anyone else agree? Im sick of the most efficient or most utility build. I want to see innovative, funny, builds that add to the fun factor of Guild Wars... 71.243.29.199 21:10, 1 December 2008 (EST)
 * The Userspace is obviously the best place to put builds like that, like you mentioned. Besides that, many builds in "Other" are fun builds that technically work but aren't very efficient.--<font color="Blue">TheHunger <font color="ForestGreen">talk  <font color="ForestGreen">''My contributions  21:12, 1 December 2008 (EST)
 * put it in your userspace. There are fake "tags" (like the other good great tags) for humerous builds, so you could check the humour (i think that's what it's called) category. But we won't put it as a main section... <font color="#4F94CD"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#9400D3">Sysop   11:47, 2 December 2008 (EST)

PVXWIKI RUINED GUILD WARS-NERFS
thanks to pvxwiki guild wars is no longer the game it was made for;making your own builds,playing as a group. again thnkas to pvxwiki for contributing the constant nerfs of skills because they post builds in clear daylight to be shown at what needs nerfed. thnaks alot...instead of making it pvxwiki...change it to PVPwiki...i have done nothign wrong here, freedom of speech
 * Hundred Blades is bad either way-- Get Your Wood On  Discuss  21:38, 11 December 2008 (EST)
 * How the hell can you say PvX wiki did this? You don't think people are smart enough to make their own builds without posting them? And these builds don't only get distributed through PvX, players in game also distribute them to each other. Besides, the Guild Wars admins will do what they want, obviously they were tired of people speedclearing, so that's why SF is nerfed again, maybe they wanted the price of ecto to rise up, you cant make an accusation towards this website just because it has builds on it. And besides there were problems with keeping people team playing even before this website existed. SuperJ 23:46, 11 December 2008 (EST)
 * People made the builds before they put them on wiki. Let's start calling everyone who runs something meta a wiki fag. -- Shazam  The  Snake    [[Image:Shazam_The_Snake.png]]  hissssssssssss 23:52, 11 December 2008 (EST)
 * Oh, and freedom of speech dont mean shit here. We could ban you if we wanted to, but you have done nothing wrong.  06:42, 12 December 2008 (EST)

whatever...i see your point though. i was only saying that maybe some of the buidls were nerfed because they could be seen, and pvx allows them to be seen FAR MORE. but whatever, theyll always nerf stuff anyway, i see your point. btw no need to swear.

We all know PvXwiki is partly responsible for GW's build diversity becoming shit. But it would've happend one way or another. Its a thing that happens to every strategy game, just look at any RTS, within a month there are tons of pre-made strategies to be found. In my opinion, guildwars held pretty well for most of the time, even though the meta is pretty clear, it still gives some room for new and unique builds. And nerfs happen, pvxwiki just helps to point out some broken or overpowered builds.  SniperFox  18:11, 12 December 2008 (EST)


 * yet the imbagon still exists/is still playable...interesting... <font color="#4F94CD"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#9400D3">Sysop   19:36, 12 December 2008 (EST)


 * because no1 gives a damn about pve...--SalaamiSandwich 16:15, 13 December 2008 (EST)


 * *ahem* UWSC. Spirit Bond. -- ›[[Image:Many srs beans.png|Srs Bean Mafia.]] <font color="#27408B">Srs Beans R Srs  16:22, 13 December 2008 (EST)
 * Everyone who plays the shit who gets nerfed, does not need to go on pvxwiki to find out about it. If pvx wasnt here, all updates would have been identical (except maybe a future contagion one) Rawrawr Dinosaur 16:25, 13 December 2008 (EST)
 * umm... GW Guru was around waaay before PvX. And most people use Guru too. THey even had a poll on if you use PvX builds or Guru, 75% said guru. Dont blame PvX for what the players chose. If they didnt want to use htese builds they have 2 choices. 1. Give the build a terrible rating and dont use it. 2. Ignore it in general. PvX is elitest--[[image:FireTocksig2.jpg|19px]]‎ F r  T c  Rules! 21:19, 13 December 2008 (EST)
 * yea i know im gonna sound nooby or watever, but what is this whole elitest thing? i mean everywhere on pvx ppl say it is elitest, but i dont really get it >.< Hippo God 17:36, 18 December 2008 (EST)
 * Well basically we really dislike anyone who is bad, and we trash new builds instantly rather than testing them... Pretty much.  18:42, 18 December 2008 (EST)
 * Semi-irrelevant, but if the poll firetocks is referring to was done by guru, then it makes sense that they'd support/end up with a bias poll to whoever goes there. In game I see much more references to PVXwiki. And yeah in PVP a lot of people will copy builds, pve share/leak them and eventually everybody will know about it PVXwiki or not. There is a reason for up dates.

PVX ruined us
I'm not logged in for a reason. I have a user account on the PVXWiki. You guys diss anything that doesn't have the skills you like. You guys repeat all builds, and just copy everything off the GWWiki. PVXwiki ruined the game. PVP used to be fun, but now everybody needs cock sucking Bunny Thumpers. PVE was always fun and challenging, until someone invented shitway. PVXwiki, please recieve an internal error that destroys you.--87.211.112.253 08:52, 26 December 2008 (EST)
 * Shut the f*** up. -- 08:53, 26 December 2008 (EST)
 * See, PVX can't do anything else than attract balls.--87.211.112.253 08:57, 26 December 2008 (EST)
 * Lolol. Since when did anyone with skill run a Bunny Thumper? It's been out of TA for a while and is only for lame fame farming in HA. PvXwiki spreads builds to bad people who can't even use them properly. Also, you're complaining about a PvE team build made on Guild Wars Guru that was eventually posted here. Even then, if you want more challenge, then don't run it. Even then, one way or another you're bound to stumble across the minefield of incredibly overpowered PvE skills. Also, you're from GWW, so you actually attract a lot more shaft. -- 09:07, 26 December 2008 (EST)
 * so what if we "diss" builds. the point is people like certain skills for a reason, each person has their own play-style. we don't copy anything from GWiki or GWW, being as neither ahs a build section. Guru hosts builds, which is where Sabway was originally posted, not here, so it would exist with or without PvX. Pepople have to learn to accept, we don't control what builds people decide to run. The constant "balancing" of skills does, it causes the meta to shift from one build to another, so either stop bitching and accept that PvX only posts builds that people already know about, or gtfo. <font color="#4F94CD"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#9400D3">Sysop   10:15, 26 December 2008 (EST)

pvx f***ing sucks  Ricky vantof  10:29, 26 December 2008 (EST)
 * Lol how do we copy GWW?  12:02, 26 December 2008 (EST)
 * PvX doesnt ruin the game, it was ruined to begin with. Most of the builds we "make" are obs creations from top guilds or shit that washes up out of GWguru or some guild that decided to run something innovative. What with izzy "balancing" the skills and the huge experience range in GW (RA to GvG), the few people who are decent at it simply create new shit that rolls all the bad users. So stop bitching about PvX and /uninstall. 12:07, 26 December 2008 (EST)

I still laugh at players that bitch at me for using PvX builds, when they're running something really terrible. Ironically, the players that refuse to use our builds are the cocky ones. XD ــмıкε  нaшк  12:12, 26 December 2008 (EST)
 * Cocky and ignorant, tbh. ــмıкε  нaшк  12:13, 26 December 2008 (EST)
 * I had a spear of light/retribution warrior yelling at me the other day cause i was using a nooby burning arrow build from PvX. Then i killed him. :3 12:25, 26 December 2008 (EST)
 * It's always the noobs that bitch. >.> Anywho, shouldn't this discussion be moved to the Community portal? ــмıкε  нaшк  12:31, 26 December 2008 (EST)

Pvx ruined build creativity, enough said, and i wont be reading back
 * Remember kids: Insulting someone and then running away makes you cool. Oh, and creativity and good aren't the same thing. I can make a creative MM-warrior, but it'll suck. [[Image:Zefirsig.jpg|19px]] God Zefir  22:20, 27 December 2008 (EST)

 —ǥrɩɳsɧƴ ɖɩđđɭɘş   01:39, 28 December 2008 (EST)
 * See, Grinch, that is why you win at life. [[Image:Zefirsig.jpg|19px]] God Zefir  01:40, 28 December 2008 (EST)
 * Mine isnt as manly QQ 00:02, 31 December 2008 (EST)

Proposal for Armor build.
Why don't we add another function to pvx instead of just skill builds we add armor builds?

[build prof=Primary/Secondary Attribute1=12+1+3 Attribute2=10+1 Attribute3=8][1st skill][2nd skill][3rd skill][4th skill][5th skill][6th skill][7th skill][8th skill][/build]
 * Anyway to make this compatible with armor slots? --  W <font color="#660000">o  B  [[Image:User Wings of Blood sig icon.png|19px]] 19:54, 28 December 2008 (EST)
 * Why? Easy enough just to say Survivor/whatever armor/etc. I think thats what you mean.  19:56, 28 December 2008 (EST)
 * You could just use equipment-template. ~ <font color="#444">ĐONT <font color="#444">* <font color="#444">SYSOP  21:16, 28 December 2008 (EST)
 * Ight, didn't know about that build. Thanks. --  W <font color="#660000">o  B  [[Image:User Wings of Blood sig icon.png|19px]] 12:11, 29 December 2008 (EST)

Feature Archived Builds
Let's be honest- there were some epic builds out there that need to be recognized even after they're nerfed. Dunno how easy it would be, but an archived featured build section would be great. -- <font color="Green">Gah  <font color="Navy">is  <font color="Red">Christmasy   20:46, 30 December 2008 (EST)
 * Nah, that's asking for too much. Featuring builds is meant to get more attention for more feedback and/or votes, not just for shits and giggles, tbh. ــмıкε  нaшк  20:48, 30 December 2008 (EST)

palm strike
Yeah well im pretty sure every sin build that is currently used in pvp revolves around palm strike. I bet thats gonna get nerfed hardcore in the new few months. Anyone agree? --Chingaling 19:24, 6 January 2009 (EST)
 * stop failing. Any good mesmer will use sig of humil on the PS sin if theyre need more defense. And don't say something like 'people dont run mesmers in ra', because ra doesnt take skill anyway.&mdash;[[Image:Cheese Slaya's Sig.jpg|50x19px]] Cheese Slaya  ( Talk ) 00:38, 7 January 2009 (EST)
 * u'll be surprised how many ppl in ra does not use palm strike nor any good chains for that matter. [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]<font color="Brown">P WNAGEMUFFIN   <font color="Green">crabs  00:45, 7 January 2009 (EST)
 * jagged strike followed by wild strike followed by blades of steel, it rocks cuz it makes no sence, good sins use that<font color="#009933">Close[[Image:CloseImpactSW.jpg|19px]]Impact<font color="#003300"> Pet Whale  12:06, 9 January 2009 (EST)
 * Youre forgetting that you have to use repeating strike about 3 times after wild strike to make sure you chain is recharged. --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]] Ressmonkey (talk)  22:24, 9 January 2009 (EST)

Well im pretty sure all that I see is palm strike and i think you should stop failing because we arnt all mesmers with signet of humility are we. It is used a hell of a lot in AB and HA and i think it has just been nerfed like a day after i said so lol. Would have to check to be 100% sure. --Chingaling 01:44, 12 January 2009 (EST)

yep it got nerfed :) decreased damage and cripple duration, so without making it a good skill balance. preferably they should have left the damage and cripple and increased the recharge by a second or two. --Chingaling 02:39, 13 January 2009 (EST)
 * who isnt spamming it every four seconds...--<font color=#585858>Relyk <font color=#66CCFF>_||_ <font color=#333300> I hammers u! 02:52, 13 January 2009 (EST)
 * At least you can't replace cripshot with this now. Or use it for that purpose I mean.  06:35, 13 January 2009 (EST)

Updates
Howcome the front page of pvx doesnt show the guildwars updates anymore and now has a link to some new game called Cabal?Klomi 09:44, 21 January 2009 (EST)
 * ANet (or whomever looks after it) changed the RSS feed in such a way that it was causing an error on PvXwiki, which made the server return the Main Page as an empty HTML document. It has been removed until it no longer does that. The Cabal and Diablo 3 wiki are both run by User:Gcardinal. - [[Image:Panic_sig7.gif‎]] 10:01, 21 January 2009 (EST)
 * Plus there's little in the ways of updates now a days anyway, so it seemed quite pointless. Needs be we could add a little link to GWW update section (which i belive is normaly updated before the main site anyway). <font color="#4F94CD"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#9400D3">Sysop   10:11, 21 January 2009 (EST)

Why?!?!?
The stupid advertisements on the left hand side of the page keep rotating (I think) and it refreshes the page, making me go back to the top........So annoying. -_---Sam6555 19:37, 24 January 2009 (EST)
 * Yeah, its hella annoying. Was editing the HB guide and it did it, lost all edits.  20:49, 24 January 2009 (EST)
 * Can it not be fixed at all?--Sam6555 11:02, 25 January 2009 (EST)
 * none of us can do anything, gcard has to. -- 11:28, 25 January 2009 (EST)
 * So have you emailed him about it? - [[Image:Miserysig.PNG|117px]] (talk)  11:50, 25 January 2009 (EST)
 * No, my email is broken atm. Which I should probably get fixed...  13:50, 25 January 2009 (EST)
 * Or you could just, you know, use adblock plus. [[Image:mightymouse.gif|25px]] moush 05:30, 1 February 2009 (EST)
 * doesn't stop it, i use noscript and it still happens to me. <font color="#4F94CD"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#9400D3">Sysop   06:28, 1 February 2009 (EST)

hello
I'm trying to make an account. But the confirmation code was never sent. My email has no mistake, nor any other info. Can some please give an explanation? 70.231.141.172 17:44, 2 February 2009 (EST)
 * make a gmail account just to get the confirmation. For some reason, it doesn't always work with other emails. Karate Jesus (Talk | contribs) (→<font face="Arial" color="gray">17:47, 2 February 2009 - )
 * It was my gmail account. --70.231.141.172 19:02, 2 February 2009 (EST)
 * Just try again, our server sucks. Also, if you have an account you can log into it and use it without confirmation, you just can't vote on builds. - [[Image:Miserysig.PNG|117px]] (talk)  19:07, 2 February 2009 (EST)
 * Checked your junk folder?--Sam6555 15:29, 3 February 2009 (EST)
 * Figuired it out. GMAIL sends the confirmation to spam. Haha your right ^ Balistic PvX 23:02, 3 February 2009 (EST)
 * I rule. ;)--Sam6555 10:07, 4 February 2009 (EST)

Starting A New Character
I would love to see a new Build category. A Category for people that are new to the Character type. Such as Paragon, I have never played one, and starting one I can't create any of the builds listed here. How about a build to begin, and learn the character type until I can get the skills to create the awesome builds that are listed here. That would be extremely helpful when starting a character that you are not familiar with. Thanks for your time..
 * Its wiki policy to not create builds that are obviously inferior to other builds because of lack of access to money, profession, or level. So making a build for low levels and starting out would be against build policy.  You may wish to look at Guide:Paragon for some paragon basics. --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]]  Ressmonkey (talk)  18:39, 8 February 2009 (EST)

Help!
moved from top of page

I dont see anything on this sight explaining how to submit a build. Can someone help?
 * Check here =) <font color="#4F94CD"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#9400D3">Sysop   13:36, 9 February 2009 (EST)

Signing my comment problem
For some reason my hot picture and test arent coming up when i sign, just the time. Any idea why? Its been working perfectly until just today, I didnt change anything <font color="Red">kill<font color="Orange">A <font color="Blue">runa  <font color="#D70000"> Leet! 17:22, 16 February 2009 (EST) Ok it works with frenzy but not ancestors visage..17:23, 16 February 2009 (EST)
 * Are you signing with 5 ~'s? D:  Ricky [[Image:Ricksawsmface.PNG]] vantof  17:24, 16 February 2009 (EST)
 * Also, you can only have one image in your sig, and it has to be personalized (ie you can't use that frenzy pic, reupload under a different name) --[[Image:Tai_Sig.png]] <small style="font-variant:small-caps"><font face="verdana" color="black" variant="small caps">17:25, 16 February 2009