User:Cheese Slaya/Build talk:Team - Sinway

I've had reasonable succes with this build, beating high ranked and guild groups. Maps with multiple teams, especially relic runs are a problem though. Any feedback? Tycn 13:34, 10 August 2007 (CEST)

Also, not too sure about the smiter. Tycn 13:35, 10 August 2007 (CEST)

I ran a variation of this build, didn't knew anyone used it. Shouldn't you put a couple of points into Deadly Arts for Siphon speed to last a bit longer. And the smiter? should be another support player I think, though I'll test your version of the build out, but I do think Heroway has more pressure.

The smiter adds a lot of damage - +14 to each assassin's attack, as well as supporting decently through bonds. Thanks for pointing out the lack of DA, fixed. As for pressure, I doubt that anything could match this in raw DPS, but heroway is certainly much easier to use and a bit safer. Tycn 12:39, 23 August 2007 (CEST)

For Relic Runs I was thinking that the sin with shock should use crippling dagger + siphon speed on the relic runners, while the rest of the sins gang up on him and body block, though some coordination(Vent) is required. Jak123X 01:36, 27 August 2007 (CEST)

I also don't understand how the Smiter/Bonder gets enough energy to use any energy spells, like Balthazars aura. The bonder will have about -5 or -6 energy degen and blessed signet wont be enough. Could u explain? lol Jak123X 04:30, 27 August 2007 (CEST)

Auspicious incantation? Ni 04:34, 27 August 2007 (CEST)

Orders is kinda meh... it only affects 2 of them... Maybe run a para with attack buffs... -- frvwfr2  (T/C/Sysop) 04:38, 27 August 2007 (CEST)

Orders Affects all 4 of them, only doesn't affect if there is another NECROMANCER enchantment on them. Jak123X 04:56, 27 August 2007 (CEST)

No, he's right - it only affects physical damage. Dropping the Conjures. Tycn 13:52, 27 August 2007 (CEST)

I suggest giving one of the sins Siphon speed + Crippling Dagger for relic runs, its really helpfull. Jak123X 06:28, 30 August 2007 (CEST)

Going to update this to the gimmicky meta build. Tycn 14:17, 6 September 2007 (CEST)


 * Few things, wild strike > fox fangs on the sins, its unblockable now and 4 sec recharge w/ golden fox. Orders necro is OoA... w/o it your team is going to get owned by SoA and SB and the like. Give him GoLE and his energy is fine. The usual backline for this is LoD/RC/SoD Smiter. Only needs like 8 in smiting for strength of honor, and the rest is prot stuff. Not saying yours doesnt work, by me and my friends run this often and we've found that this way works better.&mdash;[[Image:Cheese Slaya's Sig.jpg|50x19px]] Cheese Slaya  ( Talk ) 06:49, 11 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Don't worry, you're the pro HA player here :) Tycn 10:03, 11 September 2007 (CEST)
 * But merging the smiter and SoD would mean you have an extra slot... any thoughts? Tycn 10:04, 11 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Yeah, lod/rc/sod smite backline.&mdash;[[Image:Cheese Slaya's Sig.jpg|50x19px]] Cheese Slaya  ( Talk ) 02:54, 13 September 2007 (CEST)
 * alright, changed the orders, will get to the monk bars later. feel free to change it back if u want, just showing how i would run it.&mdash;[[Image:Cheese Slaya's Sig.jpg|50x19px]] Cheese Slaya  ( Talk ) 02:59, 13 September 2007 (CEST)

SoD/Smite
[build name="sod smite/bond" prof=monk/eleme protec=11+1+1 divine=11+1 smitin=8+1][shield of deflection][reversal of fortune][aura of stability][blessed signet][strength of honor][life bond][balthazars spirit][glyph of lesser energy][/build] Then run a RC and a LoD for the rest of the backline.&mdash; Cheese Slaya  ( Talk ) 05:42, 13 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Okay im bored, so:

[build name="lod/infuse" prof=monk/mes healin=12+1+1 divine=8+1 protec=9+1 inspiration=5][light of deliverance][infuse health][reversal of fortune][dwaynas kiss][draw conditions][protective spirit][cure hex][channeling][/build]

[build name="rc prot" prof=monk/mes protec=12+1+1 divine=9+1 healin=8+1 inspiration=5][restore condition][gift of health][reversal of fortune][shield of absorption][spirit bond][aegis][holy veil][channeling][/build] atleast thats what id run, any of you letter-than-cheese monks wanna fix anything go right ahead.&mdash; Cheese Slaya  ( Talk ) 05:48, 13 September 2007 (CEST)

Wow im bored
sorry for killing your build tycn, anything you want to change go right ahead. just bored atm while waiting for my pizza :D. wow thats like 6 posts in a row.&mdash; Cheese Slaya  ( Talk ) 05:55, 13 September 2007 (CEST)

Nah, it's fine, it's not like I know much about this build anyway. Tycn 09:14, 13 September 2007 (CEST)
 * Alright cool, I'll do more when i feel up to it.&mdash;[[Image:Cheese Slaya's Sig.jpg|50x19px]] Cheese Slaya  ( Talk ) 00:11, 14 September 2007 (CEST)