Archive talk:Team - Sacrifice Bombers

Finally done... anyone got a good suggestion for the last skill in the BiP Saccer's bar? Frans  06:58, 11 April 2008 (EDT)
 * I was SO confused until I saw the BiP was a 55 and the farming tag. You know Dark Aura causes scatter? One possible optional is rebirth, it won't rezz the damage dealer, but will move his corpse to where the BiP can safely rezz. - [[image:miserysig1.jpg]] isery   -TALK  07:02, 11 April 2008 (EDT)

Won't work, with 1 hp, you'll gain 1 damage on each hit... which is kind of a problem with 1 hp Frans  07:56, 11 April 2008 (EDT)
 * What? What did I say about 1hp? You mean when you rezz you will be on 1 hp and screwed? Just stop using the focus or swap a piece of armor. - [[image:miserysig1.jpg]] isery   -TALK  07:59, 11 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Oh, and with being a farming build and all, might as well swap the rezz signets for a hard rezz that brings people back on over 50% health, like Resurrection Chant. - [[image:miserysig1.jpg]] isery   -TALK  08:00, 11 April 2008 (EDT)


 * Ooh, srry, I misunderstood u there, I'll change the res to a hard res.[[Image:Impossible_Odds.jpg‎|19px]] Frans  12:08, 11 April 2008 (EDT)

Concept looks nice, however AoE scatter will probably screw this over. Best dual farmer still is any/Mo 55 and R/Me Famine.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ  12:13, 11 April 2008 (EDT)


 * 112 DPS is quite nice, it should be enough to kill them before they flee.[[Image:Impossible_Odds.jpg‎|19px]] Frans  12:14, 11 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Probably not, actually.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 12:14, 11 April 2008 (EDT)


 * You're right, wiki says 2-3 seconds till they fleeee.[[Image:Impossible_Odds.jpg‎|19px]] Frans  12:19, 11 April 2008 (EDT)

But wait, I haz mending! Frans  13:16, 11 April 2008 (EDT)
 * STOP THE PRESSES DISREGARD EVERYTHING EVERYONE HAS EVER SAID. IT HAS MENDING! Lolz, anyway, yeah, 55 builds are the only builds allowed to use Mending :P  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 13:18, 11 April 2008 (EDT)


 * What about pollish warriors?[[Image:Impossible_Odds.jpg‎|19px]] Frans  13:20, 11 April 2008 (EDT)
 * They should be shot? :o  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 13:22, 11 April 2008 (EDT)
 * They wouldn't die though, because they're using MENDING!  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 13:23, 11 April 2008 (EDT)


 * lol.[[Image:Impossible_Odds.jpg‎|19px]] Frans  13:28, 11 April 2008 (EDT)

Back to mending AoE flee: One of them uses touch skills, I have to figure something for the other (ebon escape lol?). Frans  17:23, 11 April 2008 (EDT)

Rdy for testing?
I think this'll be hard to practice with heroes (Ebon Escape is not the reason, I'll test on master of damage anyway) so I'm looking for someone to take either one of the bars. Frans  13:00, 12 April 2008 (EDT)


 * (EC)Looks interesting, just might be crazy enough to work XD Anyways, why Ebon Escape? To lose unwanted aggro on the BiP? Because it will just take you back into the fight, and that's not a good thing. - [[Image:GenericWikier1.jpg|19px]] Generic Wiki-er  13:01, 12 April 2008 (EDT)
 * I have written why in the usage, it's because the other saccer uses touch skills and you want to be in adjacent range without moving (against AoE fleeing).[[Image:Impossible_Odds.jpg‎|19px]] Frans  13:05, 12 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Wait, is it that the Lich Necro tanks, the BiP, or both? Sorta confusing. - [[Image:GenericWikier1.jpg|19px]] Generic Wiki-er  13:08, 12 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Both invincible, both in adjacent range, both capable of some extra damage... it doesn't matter which of them gains aggro.[[Image:Impossible_Odds.jpg‎|19px]] Frans  13:09, 12 April 2008 (EDT)


 * Mmkay, now it makes sense. - [[Image:GenericWikier1.jpg|19px]] Generic Wiki-er  13:12, 12 April 2008 (EDT)

Still gotta unlock some of the skills, I'll report when done testing. Frans  07:26, 14 April 2008 (EDT)

Cool, a great-tag! Frans  10:24, 24 April 2008 (EDT)

Does Vigorous Spirit work with Touch Skills? It only says it works with attacks and spells.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ  10:49, 24 April 2008 (EDT)
 * You're right, I'll change it to 2 other skills. Ty.[[Image:Impossible_Odds.jpg‎|19px]] Frans  10:52, 24 April 2008 (EDT)
 * BiP triggers it though.  ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ [[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]] 10:53, 24 April 2008 (EDT)

tried this out with a guildie, and i wish i hadn't. it's incredibly limited - you cannot deal with fast-striking HM mobs of any decent size, nor can you deal with reasonable interrupts or degen. if there's places where this is useful, they're few and far between, and not worth it anyway. 24.63.206.168 18:46, 2 May 2008 (EDT)

Tested this build...utter crap...not enough energy for sure. 71.207.230.104 13:01, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

build sucks... how it got vetted is beyond me 98.193.121.227 13:04, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

1 ENCH STRIP IS DEATH
ye. Kinda. Esp Strip Ench--84.24.206.123 17:11, 7 May 2008 (EDT)
 * Also on a 55. 1 enchantment strip is bulks, you have like 10 cover enchantments.[[Image:Impossible_Odds.jpg‎|19px]] Frans  16:34, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

Vandalism
Calculation have been fucked up: creatures don't attack 3 times in 2 seconds, unless fighting +33%IAS locust's fury mobs, which unfortunately do not excist. Also, both players bond themselves and the other, so balthazar's aura will be on both etc... Frans  16:33, 13 May 2008 (EDT)