User talk:Toraen/Sandbox/N/D SoMS Orders

this is vettable tbh-- Relyk 23:44, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It's already in the optionals/variants here, but I'm all for splitting up gigantic convoluted pages. Symeon 23:52, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Blood Ritual's a bit meh, but the rest is nice. Although what's worse than OoV/OoP is Death Nova... Would be great if there was space on a Minion Bomber for N/Mo/D :(  Ӎiñon Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg 00:18, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I struggled to find any good skills in these lines that weren't self-cast enchantments. VoP is only there because it'll only be cast once per fight. Some Flash Enchanments might work there and over blood ritual (since they won't take SoMS charges), but none really stood out as useful. --  Toraen   talk  01:20, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * meh tom, "self targeting enchantments" - Death nova won't be instant.-- [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px|link=User:Chieftain Alex]] Chieftain  Alex  07:29, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I noticed that after I said it. Apparently it's a bug that it even works with party-targeting spells. Ӎiñon Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg 07:31, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not a bug. Party-affecting =/= party-targetting. When a monk casts aegis, he gets divine favor healing on himself. Same with any other party heal since the start of GW. They're all self-targetting in principle. -- Jai . -  10:55, September 29 2011 (UTC)