Archive talk:Team - GvG Overload Spike

gogo write it up Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava}   03:24, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * FOIN. Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava}  [[Image:They're_On_Fire_Panda.jpg|19px]] 03:41, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

Great for zquests, champ points, tourny points, double weekends, and any other miscellaneous lolery. Also: any suggestions are welcome; this what I can grab from obs Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava}   03:41, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

I understand this is just from obs but wouldn't overload be a better choice than wastrel's? Both have the same unconditional damage but overload seems to have a better payoff if conditions are met. 66.66.172.108 19:51, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah it would work, it just adds 4 more seconds in between spikes Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava}  [[Image:They're_On_Fire_Panda.jpg|19px]] 21:18, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

Testing...
Ok so apparently someone randomly put this into testing... there's still some variants that can be stuck in here. For instance you can drop 2 of the Me/Mo for and of course you have to switch around skills if you take that route. Furthermore, you can drop the Me/E (or a Me/Mo) and run 2 Me/A, again needing skill adjustment. This is just a template though, and you can switch up the mesmers' skills (interrupts, etc.) Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava}   01:57, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Me/E
 * Me/Rt

Tbh
Take away the WoH Mes and put in something more useful, like another LoD for more anti-spike or maybe a Rupter. I believe the healers can cover the healing.--Syncretic 15:19, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1)a 3rd LoD would be less anti-spike, and more anti-pressure. 2) easier said than done; healing a team of 8 squishies is harder to do than you would think Rikk Panda 16:28, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * sorry, meant pressure. and you're probably right.--Syncretic 16:32, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Meta?
[ViP] and [cFs] have been wreaking a bit of havok with both variations. eh? 72.148.243.147 23:25, July 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * I played vs this team and 3/6 Mesmers died to knights. -Extreme Zer0 18:11, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * That reason holds no merit because it's based on player skill. And yeah, [ViP] alone went from r80's to r30's running only this spike because it works. plain and simple Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava}  [[Image:They're_On_Fire_Panda.jpg|19px]] 01:10, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Going from rank 80 to rank 30 is an almost impossible feat. --Crow 02:41, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Never said it was hard, I just said it happened with this and variations of this build. Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava}  [[Image:They're_On_Fire_Panda.jpg|19px]] 09:06, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * My point was going from rank 80 to 30 doesn't require a brilliant build. --Crow 14:31, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * You're absolutely correct. It doesn't. And this isn't a brilliant build. There's nothing brilliant about a 3-2-1 1->2 spike, but then again I guess that's why it's so capable. Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava}  [[Image:They're_On_Fire_Panda.jpg|19px]] 22:53, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * wat --Crow 00:22, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Mind Wrack?
Why don't one of the spikers spike with mind wrack? the target will already be hexed and as long as it gets put up a little before the other spikers thats an extra ~140 damage or so.75.80.128.65 19:24, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * It works only for YOUR mesmer skills, so it's only ~25 more dmg --GothicNeko 16:59, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Viable
Post wastrel's nerf? Life  Guardian  03:09, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Replace wastrel's with overload. Spike becomes more potent at the cost of 2s more downtime than pre-nerf. Continue spiking shit. At least that's what borat and nick plan to do in [cFs]. Also, mesmers are supposed to run sups and one of the mesmers is supposed to have snares but i can't remember the exact bars.--Jake89.145.83.41 04:32, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * lol @ sups. This does more than enough damage, and now that we're using Overload it has the potential to do even moar. Minors would be as far as I would go, and that's still pretty stupid. The snares and Arcane Larceny/Thievery are variant builds (scroll up).<font color="Orange" size="2px">Rikk Panda <font color="red" size="1px">{a.k.a. Benny Lava} [[Image:They're_On_Fire_Panda.jpg|19px]] 06:00, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Rename
to GvG Overload Spike seeing as how it uses Overload. I'll add variant mesmers when I get home, and then i'll become lazy again -.-' thx <font color="Orange" size="2px">Rikk Panda <font color="red" size="1px">{a.k.a. Benny Lava}  06:14, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Why don't you just call it Mes Spike..?
 * 1) sign comments w/ 4 tildes 2) Because that's not what it's called? <font color="Orange" size="2px">Rikk Panda <font color="red" size="1px">{a.k.a. Benny Lava} [[Image:They're_On_Fire_Panda.jpg|19px]] 21:27, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

New Team Build
All guild now run 8 Me/X with 1 ME/A 5 Me/Mo and 2 Me/P can someone change builds? (i don't have those)--81.249.188.245 02:52, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * whoru? B/c no one is doing that.--TahiriVeila 05:51, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

I just ran 8x mesmer and it only works if your team is experienced (wins/losses were spontaneous). Also, it's kind of dumb considering 8 mesmers is complete overkill. We then ran 7 mesmers and a monk, which worked better but it's also overkill and harder to split. Ultimately 6 mesmers is the best configuration, running Superior Runes if you're manly or Minors if you're coordinated like robots. You can run two /P but it's kind of redundant and the only advantage is maintainable Stand Your Ground. Good Tactics ran basically this exact build and they managed to flawless a couple of matches before switching back to balance. So out of everything i've seen this seems to be the most efficient. <font color="Orange" size="2px">Rikk Panda <font color="red" size="1px">{a.k.a. Benny Lava}  06:43, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

SoD
Obs says we should use this. Guardian and SoD make warriors rage >< <font color="Orange" size="2px">Rikk Panda <font color="red" size="1px">{a.k.a. Benny Lava}  06:43, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * SoD is just the thing this needs to be moar lame. Life   Guardian  06:47, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

update
dead as hell. no way this shouldn't be archived. shame. MrMetal  FLower   22:50, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow, that was fken fast.--Bio. 23:16, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Holy fast nerf, batman<font color="Orange" size="2px">Rikk Panda <font color="red" size="1px">{a.k.a. Benny Lava} [[Image:They're_On_Fire_Panda.jpg|19px]] 02:38, July 30, 2010 (UTC)