Build talk:D/any PvP Pious Renewal

Not sure about the GvG tag, but I'm sure it can sustain itself during a split with Pious Restoration + Pious Renewal. Zyke 10:11, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Ye I was running this yday and it was pretty good, you really have to be on the ball with pious 24/7. I also prefer enchanted haste over pious haste since it allows you to ims/ias when you need to. Frostels 13:50, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Diversion
Diversion won't work as a counter because after the natural 8s duration (or when you strip it), it will recharge itself anyway. Kirzath 22:26, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Pious Fury
Unsure if it's a bug or not. The patch notes say it should be a 33% IAS but ingame it's 25%. Kirzath 15:23, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * There was a big derv update a few days ago. 25% IAS is the new correct. The gwpvx site has not been updated to show the new skill descriptions. --Saxon 21:14, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Any idea when that's getting updated? It's getting kinda annoying. Lania Elderfire 21:19, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * We have updated all the skills just waiting for it to be synced on the main server. Frostels 22:16, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Test of Faith
I think would be a pretty good optional skill. --ScathLann 21:25, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

I think 14 mysticism would be better than 14 scythe since its a breakpoint for pious haste, pious fury, and energy for pious renewal. It is a little damage lost, but overall i think it would be better. Ressmonkey 21:30, 21 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Mysticism reduces the energy cost of the flash enchantments anyways. Pious renewal is already generating energy with 4 points returned, and it's actually generating a fair amount considering how often it is stripped.   The bar has nearly no energy issues just spamming on an immobile target and certainly doesn't have any when you are chasing people down and not spamming as much.
 * Right, i know that, but theres also the breakpoints on the stances. Ressmonkey 18:58, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * what's a major rune?-- Relyk  talk  19:00, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The only reason I'd see the need for a major is for extra duration on pious haste. Pious fury is already maintainable as is, and if you are splashing points into wind prayers (or for some reason earth) the break point is at 12 (or 11+1) anyways for a 12+1+1 - 11+1 - 6 split.   Alternatively you could do a 12+1+1 - 10+2 - 8 split for something like pious restoration.   If you are just doing a 12-12 split I guess you could benefit from it.
 * TL;DR meh.

Meta
I think this is pretty meta, i run it and i see other people run it too in RA, dont know about other things. Contemplation of Purity as optional, removes 1 hex and 1 condition and its almost insta cast. --Lukky SjoerD 11:27, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Not in gvg, avatars and eda mostly. I'd suggest removing the gvg tag.-- Amor  [[Image:Harrier's_Haste.jpg|19px]] 14:40, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I never see it in GvG either. Lania Elderfire 15:05, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

synergy with Demonic Flesh?
There's speccing required, but you're spamming skills in 2s and 3s. 71.204.2.13 16:51, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm im thinking Kinetic Armor. J new 12:05, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I tried it out of curiosity, but Kinetic Armor really is terrible on melee. Aonsephonie 15:43, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Haters Be Hatin'
This build gets so much hate in RA its at the point where its funny (ran it for a good chunk of a session and each monk had something nasty to say to say). Its 'Avatar of ect.' or gtfo. the argument I see people toss is that it lacks damage that Avatars have and PR in your build is 'you autofail go back to pve'. I'm seeing axe warrior damage with Avatar of Grenth Survivability. It mainly lacks condition spam of Balth and Grenth's Teardown effect but makes up with more attack variation +dmg. Discuss 10:22, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree that Pious Renewal gets far too much hate from other players, but on the other hand... I used it for a some time, but now I switched to AoG, just because it deals far more damage. I checked the DPS of both at the Master of damage, and AoG dealt about 10-15 more DPS.Bean Muncher 12:11, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Haters gonna hate,I've even seen the "Avatar of Lameliness" name.

how about
adding Winds of Disenchantment and Pious Restoration (might be relevant for AoLyssa too) Fianchetto 06:10, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * no-- Relyk 06:46, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

The FA Tag
It sort of doesn't belong in FA, or at least how it stands.

This is what is normally ran and having the FA tag on this sort of detracts from the build's usage there. Requesting to remove the FA tag on this and vett the above build entirely on its own.
 * A variant of it can be run on Kurzick side with Pious Restoration for heal+hex removal. But as said, it's a different playstyle. Miharo 19:51, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

New Flux
Since you are spamming Pious Renewal and then a skill from another attribute line I guess you can maintain the 30% bonus? Pretty strong if so. Frostels 10:24, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Avoiding reset with Pious Fury involves PR->Crippling Sweep->Pious Fury. I hit 109 in RA at one point.-- Relyk 11:14, 1 July 2012 (UTC)