Talk:News/20101119

List of problems

 * It doesn't seem like DPL is activated. See e.g. PvXwiki:Policy or News.
 * Licnse is shown as CC-BY-SA 3.0 instead of the NC 2.5 version.
 * Archive and Guide namespace appear to have switched names.
 * Special:CategoryTree is broke.
 * SupressRedirect is missing.
 * trying to use a widget throws an error.
 * need to include build namespace as searched by default
 * put more problems here

comments and the such
Leave your comments here guys =).  ~ PheNaxKian talk  21:57, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Congratulations, looks good! And thanks for doing all the hard work behind the curtains!&mdash;&thinsp;H HHIPPO  22:30, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Much improved over the Wikia version, Curse looks pretty fantastic as far as hosting goes 108.27.213.229 02:11, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

License
Shouldn't it be by-nc-sa 2.5? I think it's difficult to change it to something else with all the old edits imported. And we definitely should use NC! &mdash;&thinsp;H HHIPPO  23:11, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Just talked to Bryan, he said he'd look into it and see what's going on there.  ~ PheNaxKian talk  18:50, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Noticed that just too, you are not able to make all content not-NC that easily; you would need to ask every contributor, or you restrict the dropping of NC at some date (i.e. all posts starting from now are just CC-BY-SA).. poke | talk 10:29, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I assume he forgot to reconfigure the defaults; you might point him to mw:Manual:LocalSettings.php.

$wgRightsPage = "Project:Copyrights"; $wgRightsUrl = "http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/"; $wgRightsText = "CC BY-NC-SA 2.5"; $wgRightsIcon = "http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.gif" $wgEnableCreativeCommonsRdf = true;
 * --◄mendel► 10:59, 29 November 2010 (UTC)


 * User:Hhhippo/ToDo &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 13:39, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * well i did tell him about it and he said he'd look into it, but i also included it in the e-mail of problems (which i sent yesterday), so I'll give it a few days (he may be busy with GWiki) before checking in with him.  ~ PheNaxKian talk  14:11, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

DPL
... is not installed. See Special:Version. Dr ishmael 23:13, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Whenever this is fixed, we can just use these instead of GraceExpired as well (though I will miss that page). --Toraen 05:18, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Archived Builds
Were all copied to the Guide namespace, presumably because the order of the namespaces is different here. Toraen 02:20, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, and the Guides are in the Archive namespace. Toraen 02:22, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I think we should not touch those for now and ask curse to swap the names of the namespaces. &mdash;&thinsp;H HHIPPO  08:54, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Mini skill bars
Any skills that use "'s (ie "Make Haste!") do not work in mini skill bars and in other skill related links. Frostels 13:43, 23 November 2010 (UTC)


 * That's because Curse runs Windows on their fileservers, so you can't have " ? * / etc. in the filenames. I've got a fix that I'll be testing on GuildWiki later today (hopefully), then we can port it back over here.  Dr ishmael 14:39, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok thank you. Frostels 15:21, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Adding a build to the guide namespace
So I was archiving some builds (moving them to guide so they would all get swapped to archive eventually) and noticing the builds were still showing up in the working builds category Category:All_working_GvG_builds, check it out, builds from the Guide namespace still there. Frostels 13:43, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Do a null edit on each archived (guided?) build. That'll fix it. --Toraen 18:44, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Special:CategoryTree
is broken. Do we need that anyway? &mdash;&thinsp;H HHIPPO  22:57, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Searching
May be because we have just moved here but the search doesn't really work, before you could search for example "R-Spike", won't show up Build:Team_-_HA_R-Spike. And other things like searching someones username won't bring up their userpage. Frostels 18:20, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * By default, only the main namespace is searched, I believe. I had to change my preferences to get it to search other namespaces. --Toraen 18:23, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, the page title match is REALLY dumb. Where in "Build talk:W/R Melandru's Resilience Totem Axe Farmer" does it see R-Spike? Searching for HA R-Spike does work though. --Toraen 18:27, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * $wgNamespacesToBeSearchedDefault needs to be adjusted to include the Build namespace. poke | talk 10:31, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Suppress Redirect
--Toraen 05:37, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
 * needs adding.  ~ PheNaxKian talk  18:34, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Watchlist 2.0
I remember on the old wiki, whenever you edited a page the "Watch this page" box was always ticked, so basically every edit you made went to watch list, now it stays unticked, how do you make it stay ticked (I always forget to tick it :<) <font color="Black">Frostels 11:24, 25 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Preferences -> Watchlist -> Add pages I edit to my watchlist &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 13:53, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * wow no idea how I didn't see that, thanks. <font color="Black">Frostels 14:42, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Widget extension
appears to throw an error if you try to use an actual widget. <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  21:25, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Session Data
I know some people were having problems with this the other night, but is it still an issue? (Bryan tells me they were having some problems yesterday that have been sorted, so it's possible that's the cause). <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  18:52, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Reclaiming
Ok so I tried putting that Eeb7xQBtbvY= onto my user page.Didn't work.Do I put the new password in after it or what? I can't seem to figure it out````
 * Its not supposed to be put onto your user page, but rather the edit summary of your userpage.– BalisticSig.png<font color="#7777cc">alistic 21:58, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

i cant figure it out too...should i place this "xAflGE2E6bo=" thing on my page? or "xAflGE2E6bo=".\n\n or "xAflGE2E6bo=".\n\nYour last edit summary is: "6c8oR9P/lNk=" ??? or like this "xAflGE2E6bo=" on my page and "6c8oR9P/lNk=" in that summary thing?95.33.18.66 22:17, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * put it without quotes into the edit summary, you don't need the .\n\n either. <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  23:04, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * disregard .\n\nYour last edit summary is: " ", As PheNaxKian said, put the string that is in the quotes as your edit summary when you edit your user page.– BalisticSig.png<font color="#7777cc">alistic 23:08, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Basically edit your userpage with something random, then in the Summary below enter "Eeb7xQBtbvY=" without quotations, and from then on it should be dandy. <font color="Black">Frostels 11:22, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * ok. so I think I have the reclaiming thing done only it won't let me log into my user here. any suggestions?77.100.71.78 22:23, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I have coppied the code given and put it in the edit summary. However, when I got onto the reclaim account it say last edit summary: no summary. Am I doing it wrong. Cannot make new user of same name. Says it is already in use. When trying to log in using this username is say incorrect password even though there is only one possible password for it. 77.100.71.78 22:25, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Which user name are we talking about? &mdash;&thinsp;<font color="darkblue" face="times">H HHIPPO  22:38, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Before you copy the code and put it in the edit summary and saved, keep the page you got the code from (Special:UserMigration). Then after you did the code and saved, type in your wanted password and hit reclaim account.– BalisticSig.png<font color="#7777cc">alistic 23:34, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Also make sure that you edit anything on your userpage, or MediaWiki will see that edit as a nulledit and ignore it completely. poke | talk 10:37, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Can someone please post a more "in depth" step-by-step guide to reclaiming accounts? Because some of use have no idea what/how to do this, and im nearly frustrated enough to just create a new account. ;_; --96.240.34.47 09:30, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Images
can someone upload all the shouts/chants (and other skills that have been effected), to their name without quotes or whatever's stopping them working (because they're stored n a windows server so some characters aren't allowed). After that they need to redirect the old location to the new one (note: Redirect and leave it redirected, don't tag it for deletion). That should be a good work around for now. I'd do it myself but i'm pretty busy atm and won't have time to do all the uploading and redirecting >> <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  20:42, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a good solution for now. For those with quotes here's a list. On the long run, I'm wondering if it's a good idea to host all the skill icons twice, once for pvxcode and once for other uses. Maybe we should make some pvxcode function that returns a 25px skill icon. &mdash;&thinsp;<font color="darkblue" face="times">H HHIPPO  21:24, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * ty Hhhippo. hmmm well, wasn't the intention to have a tag? when we get access to the staging server we could knock something that resizes the images stored server side (i think there's some PHP function that does that, but I'm not entirely familiar with it so sorry if there's not) and outputs it in the current template format. We could then have a bot run and change all current instances of the template to the tag. <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  23:24, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Yea, there were many intentions... maybe we manage now. About the resizing: for 'normal' images the wiki does that automatically: if you upload e.g. a 64x64 image and use it on a page as 25x25, it stores a 25x25 version as thumbnail. Not sure if that works for images included via magic words though.
 * Have to sleep now. Maybe someone on the other side of the Atlantic feels like uploading the rest? &mdash;&thinsp;<font color="darkblue" face="times">H HHIPPO  00:00, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * And two days later... Could someone please finish this? I am not making an account just to upload a couple dozen images. - 76.116.8.166 09:32, 1 December 2010 (UTC)


 * We're still working on it. Have some bloody patience.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 13:30, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * per Dr ish. Programming extensions take time. Plus you can upload images without registering. <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  14:48, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Finish the image uploads and redirects that Hhhippo started, I mean. And no, you can't upload images without registering. - 76.116.8.166 19:27, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * ah, for future reference, you should make it clearer to what you're refering to (to both me and Dr Ish it sounded like you meant the extension), I'll do it later on tonight. <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  19:36, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

We finally got my filename-rewriting extension installed at GuildWiki, and it's working (just need to re-upload images to the "fixed" filenames). You seem to be working fine here with the file redirects, but if you wanted to switch over to the extension, just let me know and I'll customize it for PvX. &mdash;Dr Ishmael 21:20, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

update
Bryan's just been through all of our issues and sorted them, with the exception of DPL.

This was intentionally left out because there's apparently a security issue that allows users to inject HTML or javascript into any DPL querry (so a page with a DPL call on it could be tampered with to make it so that the user ends up editing a different page, or redirected to a different website). The author/co-creator is working on a patch, but it'll be released as part of DPL's next big release (currently going to be around January, though there's no set date).

As such, what would people like to do about that? there is a wikimedeia version, but it doesn't have most of the functions as normal DPL (certainly the stuff i use DPL for wouldn't be viable under that extension). So we can either try and adapt somehow, or we could wait until this next update (unless there's something anyone can think of). <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  18:21, 29 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Hmm, too bad. On the good side, this means the Curse guys actually know what they're doing. We could ask them if they're ok with this workaround. Otherwise, I'd suggest we wait for the new version. Should temporarily fix some of our dpl-using pages then. &mdash;&thinsp;<font color="darkblue" face="times">H HHIPPO  23:30, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * we could....i don't think we use it anywhere that normal users need to edit... <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  23:55, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Right, DPL's now installed with the tweak you linked to Hhhippo. for DPL to run, the page it's on needs to be protected (doesn't matter which level, as long as it's protected (atm anyway)). So if you see a page or 2 with DPL querries on it just hit semi-protect. <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  22:51, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Grace_Expired
that page functions similar to the special grace expired page on the old wiki. this will list all pages in said category, but it will make those that need altering/deleting have a darker background (#CCC to be exact (that's dark grey)) than the rest. We can change colours round a bit if needed. <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  23:36, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

vector
The page says "The wiki is running on the newest version of Mediawiki (so you can use Vector, the skin Wikipedia uses, if you want!).". I can't see this in my prefs :) Himm Taeguk 11:27, 2 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Curse removed the skin options (defaulting everyone to Monobook) on both PvX and GuildWiki because they couldn't make the analytics trackers work on multiple skins. I pointed them to an extension that should take care of it, but apparently they haven't installed it yet.  &mdash;Dr Ishmael Diablo_the_chicken.gif 14:05, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * it also has to do with the (curse) footer (not yet active here). They apparently haven't got it so they only have to update once for it to effect all skins, they have to do it individually. <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  14:50, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah I see :). Well the message has been updated so I'm happy again (actually, I'm only happy when I'm complaining, but that's me :D). Himm Taeguk 17:18, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Template code problems?
Am I the only one having problems with downloading the template codes? If I download them, I get an error message both in the game and in paw·ned² that the template has an error. If I cut and paste the code from the website directly into the box in GW, it usually works ok. AtlaWolffriend 23:56, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
 * while i didn't check in game, it downlaoded fine and the code was the same as on the site. I don't know what paw.ned2 is so i can't help you there >>. As far as i'm aware nobody else is getting the issue though (considering we've been live for around 2 weeks and there's not been anyone else reporting it). <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  00:03, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't check in game either, but I can see that our template files have a surplus newline before the code, while those from the old site don't. Maybe that's confusing some interpreters. &mdash;&thinsp;<font color="darkblue" face="times">H HHIPPO  00:09, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Yea, maybe the surplus newline is the issue. If I cut and paste the code into the game, it works fine, but if I d/l the file, the game won't read it. Oh, and paw·ned² is a great external program that lets you build GW builds outside the game. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/paw-ned-all-in-one-t10391290.htmlAtlaWolffriend 01:33, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Link a broken template code.  —ǥrɩɳsɧƴ ɖɩđđɭɘş  [[Image:Grinshpon blinky cake.gif|19px]] 04:56, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:E/Mo_ER_Prot_Hero -- download the file, and it won't work. Copy and paste the code, and it will. AtlaWolffriend 21:21, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I did some more tests: the template files downloaded from here have a linefeed character (0x0A) before the actual code. I tried the download both on Linux and Windows (both with Firefox), it's always there. I don't think it depends on the build. My GuildWars (running on Linux) reports such a file as 'not valid', I don't have a GW running on Windows for comparison, but I could imagine that it's working there since a LF without CR doesn't mean anything in Windows so it might get filtered out somehow. That could also explain why it seems to work for most people. I guess the solution is having a look at the extension code and get rid of that LF, once somebody at Curse has time (or we get access to the staging server). &mdash;&thinsp;<font color="darkblue" face="times">H HHIPPO  22:36, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Links
You guys might want to look at pvxwiki.com, pvx.wikia.com, guildwars.wikia.com, and gw.gamewikis.org linksearches and figure out what to do with all those. - 76.116.8.166 16:32, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the hint. As far as I can see most of those links are on archive or user pages, but I'll have a closer look. &mdash;&thinsp;<font color="darkblue" face="times">H HHIPPO  17:51, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Confirmation emails not sending
Reported by both Brandnew and Baned. It seems to not even work with gmail now. <font face="Courier New" color="DarkGreen">Toraen -<font face="Courier New" color="DarkRed">Gifts Plz 14:50, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I haven't gotten anything at hotmail, either. Or rather, I got the first e-mail, but when I requested a new one, nothing sent. Danny 14:50, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
 * too lazy too check (for both things here >), but haven't you already confirmed your e-mail Danny? If so it's possible that the MW software doesn't send out a confirmation e-mail if you've already confirmed. (i'll inform someone at curse about this though tomorrow) <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  01:25, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 * nop. can't vote. i was gonna /bandwagon a build the other day and it was all like "lolno". probably because i didn't actually migrate at all and this is a new account anyway. I'll try a different e-mail later. Danny 02:45, 26 December 2010 (UTC)