User talk:Shadowsin/Archive 8

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pz out nigs. ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ  14:27, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
 * /wave -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 14:36, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
 * /wave Drag  nmn   talk cont  15:07, 22 October 2008 (EDT)


 * 2 days late, but pz. [[image:ViYadriaanzsig.jpg|19px]]Adr iaa nz 03:31, 24 October 2008 (EDT)

ur ma pzd out Rawrawr Dinosaur 04:45, 24 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Obai--__undefined__ 06:27, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
 * test.--128.211.248.24 16:43, 2 November 2008 (EST)

Me.
Cant edit AN atm, but if PnH is so bad then how did the PnH monk get vetted into good? Or other or w/e, but it was passed. --__undefined__ 22:53, 16 December 2008 (EST)
 * PnH isnt bad, PnH Monk and PnH Supporter are 2 different things, stop associating two builds with completely different purposes to one another. It is a weak as fuck support bar, and if any one of the people who voted on it could even get past the underworld with something other than R-spike than I might find any of their votes credible. ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 22:57, 16 December 2008 (EST)

Rawr basically says it should be on a support char, as 3rd monk shouldnt be needed. Well this is a sorta half 3rd monk w/ dmg support also. Thats how I interpret what he says at least... --__undefined__ 23:00, 16 December 2008 (EST)
 * That bar is weak. The only thing that PnH serves a purpose for is hexway, so when your not fighting it you throw around weak heals, and strippable damage support. ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 23:06, 16 December 2008 (EST)
 * All that aside, that was not the point of my post on the admin noticeboard, you have been told specifically that you were not allowed to remove non troll votes from any build without first completing an RFBM, you continue to remove peoples votes because they disagree with 'your' opinion on a build which is exactly what your 'not' supposed to do. ﮎHædõ๘  یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 23:10, 16 December 2008 (EST)

So does the PnH monk, which you gave a 4. Its elite isnt WASTED against hexway, just less effective. And SoH being removed is a problem for all SoH builds. Hell, on the strippable buff logic, conjure is bad. =/ --__undefined__ 23:12, 16 December 2008 (EST)


 * When was that? --__undefined__ 23:12, 16 December 2008 (EST)

PnH monk isnt a support character. They are two completely different builds, stop comparing two builds that have nothing to do with each other when your making an argument, If you have the PnH monk in your party, you'll be lacking an RC, If you have the PnH Support in your party you'll still have an RC, The bar for the support monk is fucking terrible, it offers weak party heals and minor dps support. And who, besides a dervish, uses conjure? and with conjure its on their own bar which they can manage themselves with soH it's on your bar, draining your energy, which I might add this build also lacks e-manage. ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ  12:37, 17 December 2008 (EST)
 * You've been told twice on your talk now, go find it. ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 12:37, 17 December 2008 (EST)

Archive:D/W Raptor Shard Bomb
Not that it matters, but how the fuck is it not innovative? __undefined__ 17:28, 21 December 2008 (EST)
 * Because I never check that stupid box, its stupid. ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 00:05, 22 December 2008 (EST)

MERRY CHRISTMAS PVX! :D
Its a good day :D ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ  03:14, 25 December 2008 (EST)
 * Gimme a mini bear then :)Pika Fan [[image:lightningbolt_sig.jpg|19x19px]] 03:33, 25 December 2008 (EST)
 * nowai :< ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 08:31, 25 December 2008 (EST)

oh hello
-- Mafaraxas ( talk ) 14:29, 25 December 2008 (EST)
 * Ohi ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 15:25, 25 December 2008 (EST)
 * MINIBEAR NAOPika Fan [[image:lightningbolt_sig.jpg|19x19px]] 15:38, 25 December 2008 (EST)
 * nowai D: ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 16:51, 25 December 2008 (EST)
 * QQPika Fan [[image:lightningbolt_sig.jpg|19x19px]] 17:33, 25 December 2008 (EST)

go sleep Infested Hydralisk  00:29, 4 January 2009 (EST)

Laptop kersploded
gg Guildwars, good luck staying alive more than a month ^^ ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ  21:56, 10 January 2009 (EST)
 * You are saying GW's won't survive for over a month without you? Brandnew.  22:22, 10 January 2009 (EST)
 * I think hes saying he hopes it isnt dead in a month? __undefined__ 22:48, 10 January 2009 (EST)
 * Nah, Didn't mean it like that, more like the recent updates suck, and the meta game is so lame and boring. It just wouldn't surprise me if they just quit after a month. ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 22:53, 10 January 2009 (EST)

I feel panic rising eeeeeeeeeeek stop trolling or othawise I will hit u wif ma daggers of fortitude +28 hp!! I Predict A Riot eeek!  21:31, 22 January 2009 (EST)

strong bunny song
is dutch ^ Infested Hydralisk  13:03, 29 January 2009 (EST)

Never tell your password to anyone.
^ --71.229 13:42, 30 January 2009 (EST)
 * not even to mr 71? D: [[Image:Cute McMonkey.png]]Tab 13:44, 30 January 2009 (EST)
 * ^Never tell your password to anyone. ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 13:44, 30 January 2009 (EST)
 * I would gladly know your password. However, Steam would be most upset and may sulk. --71.229 13:55, 30 January 2009 (EST)
 * =o Infested Hydralisk [[Image:IH_sig.png|19px]] 14:04, 30 January 2009 (EST)
 * Steam would laugh at you as opposed to sulking. ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 14:05, 30 January 2009 (EST)

I would tell my password to anyone, but nobody asks :'(  Ricky vantof  14:08, 30 January 2009 (EST)
 * whats your password [[Image:Cute McMonkey.png]]Tab 14:09, 30 January 2009 (EST)
 * whats your password ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 14:09, 30 January 2009 (EST)
 * 6  Ricky [[Image:Ricksawsmface.PNG]] vantof  14:10, 30 January 2009 (EST)
 * Never tell your password to anyone. ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 14:12, 30 January 2009 (EST)
 * HEY GUYS IF YOU TYPE YOUR GW PASSWORD INTO PVX IT CENSORS IT LOOK ******************* [[Image:Cute McMonkey.png]]Tab 14:14, 30 January 2009 (EST)
 * OH SHIIII YOU'RE RIGHT CHECK THIS OUT: ******** ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 14:15, 30 January 2009 (EST)
 * THIS IS MOTHAFUCKING AMAZING LOOK -> ********* [[Image:Frostrage.jpg|19px]]<font color="Blue">Frosty <font color="Blue"> po!  14:16, 30 January 2009 (EST)
 * ocool: * <font color="#000000">Infested <font color="#CD0000">Hydralisk [[Image:IH_sig.png|19px]] 14:17, 30 January 2009 (EST)
 * Fuck you guys... - [[Image:Miserysig.PNG|117px]] (talk)  14:19, 30 January 2009 (EST)
 * ty34saF%s But you don't know e-mail now do you. =p--[[Image:Paralyzing GazeLiger414.jpg|19px]] <font color="SaddleBrown">Liger414 <font color="Darkgoldenrod">talk   <font color="Goldenrod">contributions  14:21, 30 January 2009 (EST)
 * And I just changed it, dicks. - [[Image:Miserysig.PNG|117px]] (talk)  14:22, 30 January 2009 (EST)
 * liger414@gmail.com [[Image:Oh noes sig KJ.png]] <small style="font-variant:small-caps"><font face="Aharoni" color="green" variant="small caps">14:22, 30 January 2009 
 * misery_sex@les.com <font color="#000000">Infested <font color="#CD0000">Hydralisk [[Image:IH_sig.png|19px]] 14:22, 30 January 2009 (EST)
 * Edit conflict rawr. Not my pass was Misery's oldest tricki n the book.--[[Image:Paralyzing GazeLiger414.jpg|19px]] <font color="SaddleBrown">Liger414 <font color="Darkgoldenrod">talk   <font color="Goldenrod">contributions  14:24, 30 January 2009 (EST)
 * guildsanigger116 --71.229 14:26, 30 January 2009 (EST)
 * It didn't work. :< --71.229 14:26, 30 January 2009 (EST)
 * I want to believe you're not that stupid liger, misery was joking too. fail. ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 14:29, 30 January 2009 (EST)
 * You can never tell across the internet =p--[[Image:Paralyzing GazeLiger414.jpg|19px]] <font color="SaddleBrown">Liger414 <font color="Darkgoldenrod">talk   <font color="Goldenrod">contributions  14:33, 30 January 2009 (EST)
 * Assuming I was that dumb, I would have deleted the page. I'm tempted to ban you for NPA calling me that stupid. - [[Image:Miserysig.PNG|117px]] (talk)  14:35, 30 January 2009 (EST)

Your proposed changes (from my talk page)

 * A) I'm not looking for someone to blame. I think everyone here is to blame for the quality of the wiki (myself included). B) Even if any idiot calls into question an Admin's integrity he will need several, if not many, other people to go along with him and even then it's completely up to the discretion of Auron (or any other future bcrats) to decide whether or not we have a new RfA and even then regardless of the what RfA says, a bcrat has the final say. Please explain to me how you think someone can exploit that. C) How would raising the bar of the admins not improve the quality of this site? You have said that you believe 95% of the users here to be trolls, well if admins started shutting that shit down it would eventually stop. I would argue that the only way to fix the wiki is through policies because, quite frankly, they're all we have for governance. And for the thousandth time, the idea to promote a new bcrat was not originally mine. It came out of a discussion that several of us were having and several of us thought it was necessary. However, Auron may be correct in suggesting that we may only need more admins and not more bcrats.
 * And finally, this was all a suggestion for a way to improve the wiki. Getting huffy about this just because I have questioned the status quo is just asinine. I believe that not only should the wiki improve, but it can. I think we have people here who could and want to implement these changes; however, as I have already said a thousand times this is all my opinion. If you like the way things are going, then continue to do what you're doing. If you don't, then fucking do something about it. [[Image:KJ Sig 3000.png]] (→<font face="Arial" color="gray">11:09, 5 February 2009 - )
 * Quick question, Why the hell was this posted twice. ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 18:05, 5 February 2009 (EST)

Boycott?
lol. ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ  02:28, 8 February 2009 (EST)

images
Can you just hold off tagging for a bit please =p. There's a bit of a problem with the template (trying to fix it but it's hard to tell what's wrong). <font color="#4F94CD"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#9400D3">Sysop   11:03, 12 February 2009 (EST)

you..
YOU FUCKING FUCKER! At least you did it before someone really hated did. lol <font face="Arial" color="navy">03:27, 14 February 2009
 * shadowsin>u--Relyk 04:30, 14 February 2009 (EST)

Hello!
You're a queer. &mdash; <font color="#CC0099">Skakid  Rally- kupo! 14:07, 14 February 2009 (EST)
 * umad? ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 14:08, 14 February 2009 (EST)

http://www.pvxwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pika_Fan&curid=59917&diff=826164&oldid=826161
THINK AGAIN YOUNG PADAWAN &mdash; <font color="#CC0099">Skakid  Rally- kupo! 23:19, 14 February 2009 (EST)
 * k. ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 23:20, 14 February 2009 (EST)
 * Obey ur master--Relyk 00:08, 15 February 2009 (EST)
 * wut? ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 00:42, 15 February 2009 (EST)

My talk
doesn't really matter, its a usertalk that nobody important is gonna use, is pvx:dis really gonna matter? <font color=#1874CD>Napalm <font color=#1874CD>Flame <font color=#000000>contributions  03:18, 19 February 2009 (EST)

Come GW
Right now, I gotta go soon. ~  Tycn  13:34, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * You still on? ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 16:51, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

wtf is a "Rich Text Editor"
-- ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ  05:01, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * disable it for a normal edit window. no idea. -- -Ch  ao  s-   13:19, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * It basically means you get a normal page displays when editing and that templates get auto no-wiki'ed. it's fucking annoying. Brandnew.  13:51, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Just turn it off tbh. - [[Image:Misery_Cow.png|19x19px]] <font color="#0d0">Misery <font color="#0e0">Says <font color="#0f0">Moo   13:55, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

just so you're aware
You're not helping anyone by cockriding all of Mis's recent contribs. We know we fucked up. I think we'd like to be done with it. Stop perpetuating it. <font face="Arial" color="gray">04:01, 5 March 2009
 * PvX:CHILL you two need to cool it down. I've watched you two. Shadow, I think it's settled. KJ, calm down dude. [[Image:Big_sadface_sig.PNG]] <font color="#FFFFFF">Biggles  <font color="#FFFFFF">Strongfist™    Sysop  04:03, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm chill man. I just want this to be done. Shadow's not helping it. That's it. I swear I'm not mad or anything. [[Image:KJ needed a new sig....sig.png]] <font face="Arial" color="gray">04:06, 5 March 2009
 * I sense shenanigans.-- ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 04:07, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * KJ has a strong sense of anti-cockriding. -- -Ch  ao  s-   12:34, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * LOL DONGS-- ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 00:17, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

TY
19:28, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * for?-- ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 00:57, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * just thank you.....[[Image:Xtreme Hunter.png]] 02:24, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * hmm--99.153.226.11 18:45, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 * ....--99.153.226.11 18:48, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Archive:D/W Raptor Shard Bomb
Demands 100% innovation. giiives it to it! :O -- Ikimono <font color ="Teal">Needs more Paragon 18:38, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * No. ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 23:40, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Lol you never said please. Some people are so demanding[[Image:Xtreme Hunter.png]] 23:49, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

sup
^ 卍卍卍卍卍 Support your local summer camp. 卍卍卍卍卍 06:29, 28 March 2009 (UTC) 卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍-- ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ  06:49, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Life's RfBM
I jsut wanted to point out something:
 * "You cannot limit him to just removing votes from the PvE page"

True you can't, but if he starts abusing his power (removing votes from PvP builds) Auron can demote him for miss-use of his privileges. <font color="#4F94CD"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#9400D3">Sysop   19:41, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Whens the last time Auron demoted someone for abuse of power? It happens all the time. Even so, from what I see, the PvE section only needs to be weeded out, as many of the builds are repeats of each other and generally useless, you don't need BM for that. ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 19:46, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I have to agree with Shadow. If Life wants to clean up those builds so much, why hasn't he been doing it? He says he can't go around the votes, but it's not hard to do. [[Image:KJ needed a new sig....sig.png]] <font face="Arial" color="gray">20:11, 20 April 2009
 * It's called flipping through contributions. Using your own laziness as an excuse to stop him from being a BM is pretty stupid imo. At least churn up some other dumb excuse that is somewhat true and believable to a certain extent. 219.75.61.43 21:19, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * whoru? And I've seen his contribs long before I voted the first time (hence why I changed from "no" to neutral), and they're fine and all but I don't see how they qualify him as a BM. Don't get me wrong, it doesn't make him a bad guy or anything but he can do the things he wants w/o being a BM. He needs more credibility first too. [[Image:KJ needed a new sig....sig.png]] <font face="Arial" color="gray">21:28, 20 April 2009
 * So, asking me about my identity invalidates my argument that you didn't get your facts right before saying Life doesn't attempt to clean up builds? Just because you changed Oppose to Neutral does not exempt you from being ignorant of his contributions. You are also unaware of the fact that our existing BMs don't give a damn about retarded votes now, PvP or PvE. Life is probably the best candidate to clean up the PvE section at the very least. He can even remove some of the more glaringly bad votes in the PvP section. I really DON'T want him to be a BM, but we are kind of short on options here considering I have been whining in AN for a long time for people to remove retarded votes like "I don't agree with the 0 or 1 ratings. The scale is from 1 to 5 so use it. This surely doesn't deserve a 0 or a 1." 220.255.7.242 22:13, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * He needs to be able to blow up bad builds, so people who could give a fuck less about build ratings in general don't have to. ~ Big  [[Image:Big sadface sig.PNG]]  sysop  21:40, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * What are WELL tags and Archiving tags for? [[Image:KJ needed a new sig....sig.png]] <font face="Arial" color="gray">21:42, 20 April 2009
 * Apparently they are only for new users. To address anon's point, I'm not under an RfBM for the sole purpose of cleaning out the PvE section. I also think the PvE section is a worthless pile of shit, and should be removed, but since a grand total of 5 users still actually use it, like the other section of PvP it must remain here. ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 03:34, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Shadowtroll's epic rage.220.255.7.132 04:24, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Pikafan, It doesn't matter who we make BM, They will get bored of the job and leave after about a week. IE. Every BM that was ever promoted. ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ  17:00, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The PvE section is currently a pile of shit because its maintained by people who couldn't give a flying fuck, but random PvErs still use it and those who know better complain about it. Therefore needs improving not destroying. I can't tell you why exactly there aren't many people from the PvE community using this site, but pvx's generally attitude towards pvers might be something to do with it. Athrun Feya 17:07, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * BAM[[Image:Xtreme Hunter.png]] 17:34, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Then maintain it yourself and don't be a whiny bitch (directed at all PvE'ers). The reason our PvP section is better than our PvE section is because of general users who maintain it themselves, not because of BMs. This is a community site and the idea is that the community should improve the PvE section. So, get with the program, improve the PvE section, quit bitching and making bullshit guides, and shut the fuck up. [[Image:KJ needed a new sig....sig.png]] <font face="Arial" color="gray">17:38, 21 April 2009
 * Oh, and "BAM" [[Image:KJ needed a new sig....sig.png]] <font face="Arial" color="gray">17:39, 21 April 2009
 * Life does not need BM to clean up the section, tools such as: and   work just as well. The theory behind this is that Life can some how make a huge difference in the PvE section if only he were a BM, well it's not true, He doesn't need the tools, he just wants them.  ﮎHædõ๘  یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 17:39, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * P.S. God damnit KJ stop ec'ing me on my own talk lol. ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 17:39, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Zzzzz. I can tell you why exactly there aren't many people from the PvE community using this site, PvX's general attitude towards PvErs a reason, its the EXACT reason. Point proved above. Athrun Feya
 * Any regular user could completely overhaul our PvE section. But first, some of you need to get over this PvE-PvP rival bullshit and just do the job. If you'd just stop picking fights and actually do the work, we'd all appreciate it and you'd probably get a lot of respect out of it. As I said earlier, quit being a bitch and do the work. Who cares about biases or w/e. It's a community site and if the community wants a better PvE section, then the community has to make it better. Now go get to work and stop being a dumbass. [[Image:KJ needed a new sig....sig.png]] <font face="Arial" color="gray">17:49, 21 April 2009
 * So question. If PvE doesn't even deserve one BM....Why does PvP need like 10?  Life [[Image:WikiLOD7.gif]] 17:51, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * A BM is a BM. They can't be restricted to PvP or PvE. Tbh, I think Big PvEs now more than he PvPs and many of the other BMs actually PvE a lot. They just don't brag about it. [[Image:KJ needed a new sig....sig.png]] <font face="Arial" color="gray">17:53, 21 April 2009

dont care enough to read any of anything thats been said, but instead of complaining about how you need bm powers to do anything, try asking the current bms to sort something out instead of waiting to get bm yourself. dont bother with the noticeboard if its a somewhat important issue, theres too much crap there to bother checking it more than once a month Tab 17:52, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * ^ [[Image:KJ needed a new sig....sig.png]] <font face="Arial" color="gray">17:53, 21 April 2009
 * Or maybe because anything "works" in PvE with a high degree of success? Not necessarily HM but then again PvE was LOL URSAN for like 5 months before anyone started caring about the PvE section of this site. You haven't made any argument as to why life actually needs BM tools other than "BAWW MY SECTION IS SHIT" or spouting off bull shit about how PvE'ers are treated around here... Guess what all the new PvP'ers get treated the same. Also I only count one active BM for the pvp section.......maybe.  Also all elected BM's helped keep the pvp section semi clean by having repeat builds well'd and outdated builds archived. No one ever does that for the PvE section. ﮎHædõ๘  یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 17:56, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * This has been discussed before, PvE isn't difficult to "win". You can put up consumables in NM and Flare spam everything to your hearts content and still "win". PvE is about doing something as effectively as possible but builds like cryway were completely ignored on pvx before ursan was nerfed, despite being proven to be more effective. When you've had the same treatment as a "new pvper" for a year it gets kind of boring. Its all well and good saying, ah yeah just change things in the PvE section and tag them, but PvX community as a single entity doesnt exist - what PvPers think and what those who focus on PvE think will make a "better" PvE section are very different things, so very little gets done in the end. It took weeks for me to get Res Sigs out of human player PvE builds, for example, until Anon realised. Athrun Feya 18:10, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * How is life being build master going to change anything? You havn't made any points that havn't included 1) Bitching about PvPer's attitudes toward PvE 2) Bitching about how much the PvE section sucks. Being a BM doesnt make things get done faster, and it certainly doesn't stop the "disagreement" between pvp'ers and pve'ers on what is good, for example, Zuranthium was a build master that was utterly CONVINCED that his assassin build was the greatest thing since Shadow prison, everyone disagreed, and in the end the only thing that came out of it was a huge revert war in the vote section arguing about where the build should be placed. Just because your a BM doesnt mean you have any more influence over peoples opinions. Prove to me that Life actually needs the tools, instead of just wanting them. ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 18:20, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * This is not far from devolving into a biased, bullshit fight. It's not about biases. It's about who does the work. PvPers do more work on the PvP section (that's why it's kept better). If you PvE'ers want the PvE section kept better, then do it yourselves. That's how it works. [[Image:KJ needed a new sig....sig.png]] <font face="Arial" color="gray">18:23, 21 April 2009
 * You are so full of crap KJ....stop being a child "A lot of people I consider complete dumbasses support him, which is enough for me to dislike the idea of him being a BM" You are the biggest bullshitter in here...I might be new....I might be learning...but that is one thing I know.[[Image:Xtreme Hunter.png]] 18:30, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe that's a comment that would have best been placed on my talk page, rather than Shadow's. Oh, and stfu. [[Image:KJ needed a new sig....sig.png]] <font face="Arial" color="gray">18:36, 21 April 2009
 * And, that is Life's RfBM, not yours. If he has a dispute with my vote, he'll bring it up to me. Don't take things so personally. [[Image:KJ needed a new sig....sig.png]] <font face="Arial" color="gray">18:40, 21 April 2009
 * DAmn wrong thread god damn it.[[Image:Xtreme Hunter.png]] 18:42, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Where the fuck.
Did all my archives go? ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ  19:50, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Found it[[Image:Xtreme Hunter.png]] 01:40, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * :D Nice, thanks. ﮎHædõ๘ یíɳ [[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 02:06, 22 April 2009 (UTC)