Archive talk:Me/Rt PvE Tease Hero

Go Gwen gooooo!  Ricky vantof  02:39, 28 January 2009 (EST)
 * sw+arage!--Relyk 02:40, 28 January 2009 (EST)
 * Attribute spread though...  Ricky [[Image:Ricksawsmface.PNG]] vantof  02:43, 28 January 2009 (EST)

This should be in PvE Meta, i abuse this build while vanquishing in caster hungry areas. who the fuck is changing it back to regular?

[build prof=me/rt fast=8+1+1 insp=10+1 dom=6+1 chann=11][Tease][power drain][Cry of Frustration][Ancestors' Rage][Splinter Weapon][inspired enchantment][shatter Hex][optional][/build]

Is what I run on Gwen. Could possibly replace Inspired or Shatter for more interrupts if you want to. Companion-cube.jpg 02:57, 28 January 2009 (EST)
 * not sure if this is best, but due to Smite Condi's long recharge (for a condition removal anyway), I would replace it with remove hex/shatter hex or something, because it would be better to remove more hexes than have some very meh condition removal. --[[Image:Tai_Sig.png]] 05:39, 28 January 2009 
 * I guess you're right, the damage isn't really worthwile with a spec of 3... Suggestions for variants?  Ricky [[Image:Ricksawsmface.PNG]] vantof  10:24, 28 January 2009 (EST)
 * Go /Rt or /any with /Mo and /Rt variants IMO. Take Godliest's bar for /Rt, and add a hard res. crazy [[Image:Cow.png]]cow  10:30, 28 January 2009 (EST)

update that imo Frosty  po!  11:35, 28 January 2009 (EST)
 * ^ I have to agree with Frosty. Just update the other build. I have a question though: Do you really need soooo much e-management. Tease gives heroes TONS of energy and so I only see the need for pdrain with it. I don't really think drain enchantment is that necessary. [[Image:Adorably shocked mcmonkey sig.png]] (→17:29, 12 February 2009 - )

Merge Tagged
This one is going to be vetted obviously, but the older build is almost identical to this (just needs some updating). The two of these should be merged. (→12:03, 16 February 2009 - )

Death Pact Sig?
What's with the love story of DPS in PvE? Your backliners in PvE *rarely* get attacked, I vote FoMF. 12:05, 16 February 2009 (EST)
 * I say leave it optional with DPS and FoMF in the optional section. I usually take FoMF, but I know people who prefer DPS. [[Image:Adorably shocked mcmonkey sig.png]] (→12:09, 16 February 2009 - )
 * Yeah, it's all a matter of preference I guess. To me, DPS just seems like a PvP-orientented skill (full health, but major PvE drawback of death). But that's just me [[Image:GNLA.jpg|150px]] 12:17, 16 February 2009 (EST)
 * to me, DPS is a measure of damage done in a period of time [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]]P WNAGEMUFFIN   crabs  21:07, 17 February 2009 (EST)
 * Which is why you never have a hard res in your team ;o -- &mdash;The preceding trolling attempt was made by Chaos (talk) . 21:10, 17 February 2009 (EST)

WoW Nerf
Replacement skill? Spaggage  talk  19:19, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Me/Rt PvE  Tease Hero [[Image:Cute McMonkey.png]]Tab 19:22, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * K, must have been in GH when looking at my hero's bar. Spaggage  talk  19:25, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It's still fine for PvP too...just cant be used on the Ghostly Hero in HA...-- Ikimono Needs more Paragon [[Image:Monk-Paragon-icon.png|24px]] 21:37, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * He was confused by the ingame description. The PvE and PvP versions are both worded that same(the removed when you attack part), its just the pve version isnt removed when you attack. 76.103.242.232 22:02, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Protective Was Kolai?
Doesn't holding the ashes negate the value of the 40/40 set. I would think you would rather have the 40/40 set for more and faster interrupts.
 * its for the healz duuuuude, and you can cast it to be a sin instead of have two more armor then a caster when they pressure you.--|[[Image:Hipowi_sig.jpg]] Hipowi  pew pew pew  19:11, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Better as Rt/Me
Having played it both ways, this works much better as a Rt/Me, because you can get 14 channeling for a MUCH stronger splinter weapon and ancestors' rage. Fast casting really does not do much for your 3 interrupts that are already 0.25 cast. Cry of Frustration is very worth it even at 0 domination; AOE interrupts are very good. (Regarding other variants: Drain enchantment is better than Inspired Enchantment here. Shatter hex also is not strong enough at 7 domination to be worth its cost). 131.107.0.112 23:30, 18 May 2009 (UTC)Gigashadow

How about Me/Mo?
Would it be better with smiting prayers (SoH, Smite Hex)? Nitroflash 01:25, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Gotta love
Hai guys, I have an awesome build, it's Random Elite/Ancestors' Rage/Spliter Weapons, with 5 optionals. Where do I put it? 84.99.29.4 19:37, February 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * I can think of at least one place...... On another note, Tease is OP in GW. Welcome to the power creep. Karate [[File:KJ for sig.png]] Jesus  <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">19:41, 16 February 2010
 * its less overpowered in pve than people would assume it to be. i said before i dislike this build, splinter is poorly specced 10-9-9 atts split, really really hawt. - <font size="3" face="vivaldi" color="Steelblue">Athrun <font size="3" face="vivaldi" color="Steelblue">Feya - 12:14, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

tbh it needs a proper specced out bar, something like this:

With like, 12 Channeling, 8 resto, 8+1 inspir and 7+1 fastcasting or something --<font color="Black">Frosty  14:05, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Frankly, this build needs a total re-build. This build used to have multiple interrupts and actually benefited from its stat spread to some degree.  The one I'm looking at right now would be far better as a Rt/Me than a Me/Rt since you're basically just spamming Channeling Magic anyways, so really, what's the point of being a Mesmer primary?  Why not go Rt/Me and spec your Channeling to 12+1+1, then spam away?  You gain little-to-no benefit from Fast Casting since almost none of the mainbar needs it (except *maybe* Spirit Rift, but even that is arguable).  This build no longer fulfills the role it was designed to fulfill: interrupt spam and general support through Splinter.  It's just Channeling spam now.  Gotta be honest, I don't see a point to this build any more, it's been changed that radically from its original purpose. --BuildKitten 17:45, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

WTB moar energy usage
With tease and pdrain you will have extreme energy management, it would be easy to nuke like a ele and still manage energy....dont be afraid to use costy stuff ;) Tease>Dual attune in big groups (5+) Falrach 18:56, March 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * This. One of the non-elite energy management spells need to go in favor of effectivity. Aonsephonie 17:02, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Generitize or GTFO
As is, this thing is pretty crap. I say we either turn it into a generic utility role (Tease, PDrain, and 6 optionals wat?) or just delete it. It's not like Tease isn't that hard to figure out. -- Jai . -  04:28, April 27 2011 (UTC)
 * 2 skills doesn't make a bar.--TahiriVeila 04:42, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Which is why I'm favoring a deletion. -- Jai . -  04:42, April 27 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm really thinking Tease and PI shouldn't get their own bars at this point. You can't make a build around them, they're just slotted on whatever can take them. The PI was basically 5 optionals + PI & PD & WNWN before we mainbarred dom and illusion. That turned out pretty shitty, since it can't take a 4th attribute without killing it's energy. -- <font face="Courier New" color="Black">Toraen <font face="Courier New" color="DarkGoldenrod">TheJanitor [[image:ToraenSig2.png|link=User:Toraen]] 04:48, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Read my talk page for my suggestion. -- Jai . -  04:50, April 27 2011 (UTC)
 * I rewrote this one, it does pretty well with 4 atts (since tease gives fucktons of energy). Channeling shit can be susbstituted with w/e you want (smite, command, reso, ilu, more dom) but I'm too lazy to list all the variants now.--TahiriVeila 04:51, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * But as soon as you get rid of the rit stuff, you have another 3-4 skill build, which I'm pretty sure PvX loves to hate. IMO, a guide is the way to go. -- Jai . -  04:55, April 27 2011 (UTC)

archiving
I have archived this and moved the build and the talk page. However I noticed that the archive is showing up in http://www.gwpvx.com/Category:All_working_PvE_builds. Not sure what I did wrong. Smity Smitington 01:54, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It stays listed in the same category/namespace for whatever reason after moving, just ignore it and it will go away after awhile.-- Relyk 01:58, 24 September 2011 (UTC)