User talk:Shadeinthebox/Me/Mo Bazzr Icewing Farm

this seems to be a "quick" farm, but the item doesn't really appear worth doing (NM plus meh unique item). I've given it a lowball vote and as such it could provisionally be rated as trash - is this unfair? - Chieftain Alex (talk) 20:58, 15 January 2020 (UTC)


 * In reply to this rating, I somewhat agree the weapon itself is not useful in many situations, but it does have its uses as a high energy weapon swap for necromancers, and some people do enjoy getting green weapons. It is hard to really know what to say when the build does what it is supposed to perfectly fine to obtain the item, but the item itself is in small demand. I do not think the deserves the build to be a trash rating though.. it is hard to say what rating should be given for builds who do their job great but their purpose is small. Maybe I will try to test it out more in HM because at least then you can get necro tomes and it might change your mind on this matter enough to make it worth keeping as an actual page. Or at worst, allow it to go on the (which i semi disagree with) merged page for all me/mo solo farms. Shadeinthebox (talk) 08:52, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Votes prior to moving page
Overall: 3.2

Even if the build sometimes works, the unique item really isn't worth farming. Effectiveness: 4 Universality: 0 Innovation: X


 * Same thing as I replied to the earlier rating, just because an item is not always used, yet still useful, means it gets a 0 in universality? Either way, it is similar in issue with the others as in people think it should not be on the website because the item is very low in demand. Should this mean anything someone might want to farm should be axed off the pages just because the majority of people dont want it? I do not agree with that but this site is changed from what it used to be so I am not sure what the answer to this solution is. Only option really is to find a weird way to force it to be enough standard use for EVERYONE, hence maybe a HM version for tomes. ~

It is a lot of effort to farm a Death Magic Green with not so desirable stats. It is not consistent in HM which makes it a not so suitable Elite Tome farm. True it works for the green, but I do not think it is desirable enough to make a farm page for. Should also mention that I can only get it to work about 20% of the time. I fail about 25% of the runs just trying to get to the location, and the rest I just cannot deal enough damage before I run out of energy and die. Overall: 2.0 Effectiveness: 2 Universality: 2 Innovation: O


 * So again, similar as it is not a useful drop. My point still rings "desired" is up to the player. If you are playing necro, having a high energy swap is useful in situations. I still disagree only having only majority desired farms on the site is a dumb way to build the site since the games so old and very few things are "desired". But still, as stated it seems trying to work a HM way out would boost it enough I guess. I also disagree with a rating that is voted poorly just because the player is the issue. Obviously it works as intended by everyone but them so rating on that shouldnt even be taken into consideration on these kinds of votes, it also stated NM so if rating because of HM fails well.. obviously what I said is even more true. ~

- Chieftain Alex (talk) 20:50, 26 May 2020 (UTC)