Archive talk:Me/Mo SoI Support

Discuss. — Tycn (talk *pvxcontribs ) 08:48, 9 December 2007 (CET)

Better uses for a mesmer in GvG, and that point besides how does this build "shutdown enemy defenses"? The only skill I see that even faintly does this is Inspired Enchantment. --Powersurge 09:07, 9 December 2007 (CET)

I wouldn't agree with you on the better uses point; a ~30% boost to your warriors' damage output isn't bad considering that you don't have to run a completely smiting dedicated character. Diversion and Power Leak can both be used to shut down enemy defenses. — Tycn (talk *pvxcontribs ) 10:52, 9 December 2007 (CET)

Blessed aura+aegis mebbe? Swiftslash \\  (contributions  * sandbox ) 17:05, 10 December 2007 (CET)
 * D-shot sig = useless character Moush 23:02, 10 December 2007 (CET)
 * Positioning and cancelling (which is incredibly powerful because it doesn't cost energy) = next to no chance to get dshotted. — Tycn (talk *pvxcontribs ) 07:12, 11 December 2007 (CET)

I would never dare use a SoI mesmer without bringing a useful Illusion spell as well. You need something to fall back on in case you meet Sig of Humility - which you will quite often. In that case youre doomed.--Jgod654 20:31, 11 December 2007 (CET)
 * Inters take care of soh. Swiftslash \\  [[Image:Impale.jpg|19px]] (contributions  * sandbox ) 21:06, 11 December 2007 (CET)
 * On this, or on rangers/side chars? [[Image:User Frvwfr2 signature.jpg|User:Frvwfr2]] frvwfr2  (T/C/Sysop) 21:11, 11 December 2007 (CET)
 * On SoH caster. And unless they perma focus on you, you got a gap which means at least 3 spells. Swiftslash \\  [[Image:Impale.jpg|19px]] (contributions  * sandbox ) 21:14, 11 December 2007 (CET)

3rd SOI build ... leave it alone ... aint gonna happen in PvP any time soon IMO! Iwan13  talk  20:15, 29 December 2007 (EST)

Not another one of these.....  Beast 194  (talk ) 03:26, 3 January 2008 (EST)


 * This one is actually viable. It combines good skills and good skills to make a good build.  Mike Tycn ( punch   out )  06:53, 3 January 2008 (EST)


 * But why is there a reason to use this over a normal bar? Signet of Illusions is overused and no matter what you say its a very clumsy elite in any arena or organized team. What is the reason to run this over a PB or even an MOR mes?[[Image:Beast194Sig.Jpg|19px]]  Beast 194  (talk ) 16:03, 3 January 2008 (EST)


 * Strength of Honor. It's like having a conjure on all of your frontliners without the downsides.  Mike Tycn ( punch   out )  18:11, 3 January 2008 (EST)

There are better ways of getting SoH on your frontline then on this clunky mesmer.  Beast 194  (<font color="Black">talk ) 18:50, 3 January 2008 (EST)
 * It's diversion casts really fast ;o &mdash;  Skadiddly [슴Mc슴] Diddles  19:01, 3 January 2008 (EST)
 * SoI does NOT belong in intelligent play.. end of story. RA fine, GvG no Chris 21:49, 7 January 2008 (EST)
 * Unintelligent players don't belong in intelligent play. End of story.  Mike Tycn ( punch   out )  23:45, 8 January 2008 (EST)

dumb builds dont belong in intelligent play. end of story.  Beast 194  (<font color="Black">talk ) 22:33, 9 January 2008 (EST)
 * Actually, i think this build is very interesting, and really shouldn't be underrated like most of you guys do. SoL might be overused, but that's just all with stupid builds(and stupid guys who make those builds), this isn't. Inspired enchantment + SoL = <3333333, probally the best synergy ingame, while also staying with good energy. Balthazar's spirit(+auspicious) shouldn't really be underrated, it's really big damage, while this still maintains the best skills of the mesmer itself(pleak and diversion). And btw, beast, i've seen you quite enough and I also suggest you don't belong to intelligent play too. - [[Image:Unexist sig.jpg|20px]]<font color="Black">Unexist  11:46, 10 January 2008 (EST)


 * The feeling is mutual.[[Image:Beast194Sig.Jpg|19px]]  Beast 194  (<font color="Black">talk ) 12:12, 10 January 2008 (EST)
 * unexist>you.[[Image:Dark0805sig2.PNG]] 12:35, 10 January 2008 (EST)


 * ah well, we all know any noob can look good on pvx, and i just got my r10 yestaday, so sure for the sake of the arguement i dont care, unexist > me.[[Image:Beast194Sig.Jpg|19px]]  Beast 194  (<font color="Black">talk ) 12:40, 10 January 2008 (EST)


 * While i agree that unexist is a good player, i disagree with his judgement of this build. SoI gives you a great ability to spec all over and have powerful effect with all the skills, but then again, it has no atts in the skills it runs and thus relies entirely on SoI.  Having to waste 2 seconds every 3 spells can be annoying, and even with cancels to avoid dshot or looking otu for diversion, if it gets hit you're still SoL for the duration of the disable.Bob fregman 17:51, 10 January 2008 (EST)


 * Acutally div will still be strong since usually you try NOT to cast through, I doubt any monk will be checking the duration of disable every time they get a div on them. Swiftslash \\  [[Image:Impale.jpg|19px]] (<font color="Black">contributions  * sandbox ) 10:10, 11 January 2008 (EST)


 * Point is, SoL is all about the player/team himself? Dshot - you cancel 30 times if you're afraid of it, while you're doing nothing anyway. Diversion? Have the team call it out, really, it aint that hard to have a monk targeted at mesmer. Yes, SoL it's this build's strength and weakness, but still, it's a signet. With a good amount of brains you should be knowning when to cancel, when not, ect. Diversion is less of a problem, you just click at the mesmer before you're activating SoL, seeing if he's using diversion. Seriously, it's all about the player himself. You agument that SoL is more weakness then strength, that's up to your case, you're probally not comforted with having it canceled 9/10 times. Oh and btw beast, I actually think you're lying, and if you not, you prob iway'ed it, or any other form of non-good teaming. And yes, you might even not be lying, but still, you suck, r10 or no r10. And if you might think that i ain't good, then you do. Nuff people here have seen me play. -  [[Image:Unexist sig.jpg|20px]]<font color="Black">Unexist  08:17, 12 January 2008 (EST)
 * If you had distortion, There would be a no-contest on d-shotting. [[Image:BaineImg.jpg|19px|||My Talk]] BaineTheBotter  08:32, 12 January 2008 (EST)
 * It's a signet, you can cancel it as much as you want to avoid dshots. Rly, dshot isn't a problem if you're gud at canceling. If you're bad at it, just don't run SoL builds. - [[Image:Unexist sig.jpg|20px]]<font color="Black">Unexist  13:23, 12 January 2008 (EST)

I hate SoL but you cant argue with results... it works.00:27, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Why do you keep calling it "shit out of luck?" It's Signet of Illusions, with an I, not SoL, lol...anyways. Having to cast SoI every 3 spells gets clunky, especially if you want to interrupt and you can't exactly "prepare" for it by using SoI ahead of time, unless you're doing absolutely nothing. But I can see the high specc'ed smiting and inspiration spells working out well. Mike 19:35, 14 January 2008 (EST)