Archive talk:Team - GvG Offense

penispenisduck  Fishels [슴Mc슴] Mootles  08:56, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
 * You have no blindbot and no ward of any kind to assist the backline. You also have no Splinter Weapon or Ancestor's Rage.  Despite nerfs, they're still ftw.  Gaze Of Balthazar 11:04, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
 * The entire point of the build is that you drop defensive bullshit for more offensive capability. Good luck running a rit flagger with this post-LoD nerf. --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]Tab  Moo  13:50, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Archive:Team - GvG Triple Warrior Rusty--RfBM 17:08, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Pretty huge difference. I should know, seeing as I made both. --[[Image:Ibreaktoilets_Signature.jpg|User:Ibreaktoilets|20px]]Tab  Moo  17:14, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Defensive bullshit? I want to stay alive.[[Image:ExtremeSigPic.jpg|19px]] Extreme (contribs) 23:04, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
 * So kill them first. --71.229 23:07, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Y three warriors, y not use an aom?--Relyk 00:34, 21 April 2008 (EDT)
 * Because warrior are DPS machines...plus they look more manly then a dervish in a dress 68.193.221.34 01:13, 21 April 2008 (EDT)

Run a para instead of your mesmer, GoE got a nerf on it's head and mesmers are not vital anymore, especially with a raw pressure build, as well as it gives a freaking soft target, unless running disortion mesmer(which absorbs too much of your energy). Gfte and anthem is pretty good, with 5 physicals. —ǘŋ Ɛxɩsƫ  06:48, 30 April 2008 (EDT) Forgot that update would revert. —ǘŋ Ɛxɩsƫ  07:34, 2 May 2008 (EDT)

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 * most times i seen this run with a SoJ smite mes.--[[Image:Rebirth Infidel.jpg|21px]] aesthetic

Ranger
Noone runs a ranger, and i don't know why they would. Most people run ither A SoJ signet mesmer, B SoJ/Balth Pen smite monk, C Plague sig necro. Point here is that all 3 builds are both defensive and offensive, you don't need a cripshot ranger for ganking because you have 3 warriors and the third takes care of spliting and ganking. Cripshot seems like a total waste of a slot to me, as im sure sig hum on their WoH or BS or IS is going to apply 100 times more pressure and with Strength of honor added into the mix too, well GG.I Heal If U Shutup 23:51, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
 * With 3 warriors, I would think being able to cripple on demand is pretty powerful. Also, rangers can interrupt. [[Image:mightymouse.gif|25px]] moush  15:45, 18 May 2008 (EDT)
 * You run smiter's to roll quick on burning, not to play balanced. Sig necro has no synergy here, this isnt a condition pressure build (thats also why this has no pblock). Cripple on demand with 3 warriors ownz. And just because your warrior's can split doesnt mean you want them to. Its when they dedicate a split that you need a warrior at the hall(and since you have an e/mo flagger and cripshot you should roll the split if you're any good) but otherwise, losing 1/3 of your offense<<<<<Contributions ) 09:01, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

Outdated?
Midline seems pretty outdated, archive or update?--Golden Star 16:05, 22 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Eh, ask tab. The GoE is kind of old and i havent been on to see if its been being used at all nowadays, but, other than that its (the build) fine imho. --Dark0805 ( Rant /Contributions ) 19:19, 22 September 2008 (EDT)
 * Needs hex removal, GoE is still fine just more energy intensive(no more mirror spam). —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  18:36, 27 September 2008 (EDT)
 * ? -- Shadow [[Image:Relyk Sig.gif]] 18:39, 27 September 2008 (EDT)

Done. —ǘŋ Ɛxɩsƫ  05:20, 11 October 2008 (EDT)


 * Wow, anyone uses this also ; strong if u know the other doestn run a me/e ehm? who doesnt run anyone of thoose today? This is awfull oO Massive  [[Image:Image-Massive Sig.jpg|19px]] 05:25, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Lol Massive, fuck off, we were running this build like 2 days ago and lost 1 when we had error 7 on our heal, we even pulled a game back with them d/ced for like 3 mins. -- ϲɽоω   ɱϲɑɳǥɽƴɗɽɑɡоɳ  06:14, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
 * On burning ilse ppl do run lots of other stuff. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  07:40, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
 * What? -- ϲɽоω   ɱϲɑɳǥɽƴɗɽɑɡоɳ  07:54, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
 * So if u do that? KMD can beat anything whit a SS Wand spikke oO - The bars are baed and outdated... u have like 5dw? Massive  [[Image:Image-Massive Sig.jpg|19px]] 14:13, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Is their something wrong with 5 Deep Wounds? Bars are fine, albeit a little old. --[[Image:GoD_Hammer_and_Sickle.jpg|19px]]  Guild  of   Deals   14:15, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
 * In a spike there is a small problem, but 5 deep wounds = yaypressure-- ツ The Gates  Assassin  15:25, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
 * You don't spike with 3 warriors; as it's loleasy to prot. 1 guardian or aegis up btw and all your adr is wasted. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  05:38, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

Runner's build is obsolete
Hidden Caltrops got owned 67.82.179.27 19:30, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Not true, invest some points and its still the best snare in the game. Life Guardian 19:57, 11 October 2008 (EDT)

This all looks like insanely great pressure, but i'm a little confused... why no infuse?? Driggy 23:23, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Because PvXwiki expects you to be god at monking and preprot everything-- ツ The Gates  <font face="Monotype corsiva" color="black">Assassin  23:37, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
 * k, that works too then, thanks. 15:21, 12 October 2008 (EDT)

There's not really need to take infuse in the current meta. All the gimmick spike builds are bspike and don't need infuse against it. —ǘŋ Ɛxɩsƫ  05:14, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

Honestly
Absolutely and powerfully fail comments like those made by massive above show how shit the wiki community is. If you don't know how 2 pvp, don't fucking talk. it's really that simple. you're just going to get called out and owned like a complete idiot Biddlers   McDiddlensmith  <font color="Black">yarrgh  21:56, 13 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Exactly the reason I don't talk too much about GvG and HA builds, and not at all in HB builds: I have no fucking clue what I'm talking about there.-- ツ <font face="Monotype corsiva">The <font face="Monotype corsiva" color ="black">Gates  <font face="Monotype corsiva" color="black">Assassin  22:34, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

Melandru's Shot
Is too good to miss out on. -- Frosty  14:30, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Uh, not really. It needs 6r tbh. - Auron 14:38, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
 * It's still fucking pew pew. -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 14:41, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Not as strong on split or at stand as burning arrow. Tbh, it's only about | | that much better than pin down, and it's elite :/ - Auron 15:18, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Wow. -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 15:19, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Ntm cripshot and 3 physicals is like peanut butter and jelly. Mel's is for super dynamic teams not rollers. --Dark0805 ( Rant /<font color=#ff11aa>Contributions ) 16:43, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Cripshot is teh secks. It's spammable, unblockable and too good to give up in this build, tbh. ــмıкε  нaшк  16:55, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
 * But melandru's can take so many roles (+ damage for some spike assist, bleeding + cripple with AP for some condi pressure spreadage and, oh yea some cripple), it's like, sexy <3 -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 16:56, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
 * HA SEE AURON AGREES WITH ME!  17:17, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
 * BUT AURON IS TERRIBLE SO THAT JUST MAKES YOU LOOK WORSE :< Biddlers   McDiddlensmith  <font color="Black">yarrgh  19:07, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Penispenisduck. archive now kthx. Brandnew.  19:55, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Mel shot isn't spike support, as it's weak and not worth saccing your interupts for. It's just +dmg for pressure. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  06:35, 18 October 2008 (EDT)

Auron, I suppose you don't play this game anymore. Mel shot is great. You already have hidden caltrops and me/e as ubersnares, it's just a vestile skill. BA might be lol good at ganking archers; but who cares about archers tbh. It's all about the guild lord now, you just kill archers when you can so you're free to push in and out. —ǘŋ Ɛxɩsƫ  09:56, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
 * No me/e in this build --Dark0805 ( Rant /<font color=#ff11aa>Contributions ) 18:45, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
 * I'm talking more about mel-shot in general. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  05:45, 17 October 2008 (EDT)
 * I figured, but still, lacking a me/e cripshot is better i'd think. --Dark0805 ( Rant /<font color=#ff11aa>Contributions ) 09:24, 17 October 2008 (EDT)
 * It's not about no me/e(most ppl use it that euro, that even when they're rolling stuff they don't snare the opponents) it's more about the fact that you have 3 melee's so you need a spammable snare to let them hit bull's easy = pressure. Dshotting RC is important then, however. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  06:31, 18 October 2008 (EDT)

lacking a me/e cripshot  I lost it there. Brandnew. 06:36, 18 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Because you are lacking a Me/E, cripshot is better. -- Frosty [[Image:Mini england.jpg|19px]] 06:37, 18 October 2008 (EDT)
 * oops, now I see. Brandnew.  06:38, 18 October 2008 (EDT)

The best defence
is a manly offence :>, this looks really offensive and will probably break true defences so that the other team can't really be eXtremely offensive, which is gurd, i likey :> <font color="#009933">CloseImpact<font color="#003300"> Too Muh Bruh  07:40, 19 October 2008 (EDT)
 * This is not football. —ǘŋ  Ɛxɩsƫ  12:05, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
 * lol that goes in epic quotes. -- Jebus  contests  15:11, 10 November 2008 (EST)

Archived
Undo if u feel like it, but it is clearly better things to take (SOR mesmer etc etc) Massive   17:32, 22 November 2008 (EST)