Build talk:Me/any HA Panic

I can't really see it being useful outside of HA tbh. --Frosty  18:31, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * So, HA only? [[File:Tyrael.png]]--(Talk) 18:32, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yea, would be more for a hexway role, with shit like empathy and backfire, but I think it would be best to wait a bit to see what prevails. --Frosty  [[Image:Frostcharge.jpg|19px]] 18:36, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll just make the build open with a lot of optionals [[File:Tyrael.png]]--(Talk) 18:56, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Rupting every heal party on altars seems pretty awesome, to be honest :> (Assumin bad positioning.) Brandnew 19:01, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * How good actually is this? Obviously it's gonna be sweet on altars, but even given bad positioning, nearby isn't that big a range and people have to be using skills at the same time to get 'rupted. I mean, it looks nice, but compared with other shutdown options (especially given things like Migraine, Stolen Speed, Arcane Conundrum etc have all been buffed too), how does it hold up? Widow maker 19:04, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's AoE? [[File:Tyrael.png]]--(Talk) 19:05, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but so are Stolen, Arcane, Shared Burden etc, and Cry got a little buff too, so Arcane Conundrum/Stolen Speed/Shared Burden + Cry of pain Fustration is looking nice. Obviously this is easier and actually, I have always loved Panic, but I'm just cautious of FotM update-mania ;-). Widow maker 19:41, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Man cry of pain would be good in tombz wouldn't it. --Frosty  [[Image:Frostcharge.jpg|19px]] 21:17, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Lol I always use it, don't you? Owns Halls. Actually after playing this, it is pretty nice, though I don't think it hits often enough to be significantly better than alternatives if foes spread. This is HA though. Of all the optionals, Backfire and Shame seem the most un-synergetic. I would mainbar Diversion tho (because Diversion is my favourite skill). Widow maker 23:08, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * I was wondering when this elite would pop up on pvx. It's pretty crazy having aoe interrupts, and the cast time is amazing for it, too. I think MoC should only be used with Sig of Humility, Diversion, Shame, or Backfire. Otherwise, I don't see any need for it. --BlazingBurdy 19:11, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

why are there so many optionals, and why is mantra of conc on a bar with an elite that casts in 1s? Gringo 20:15, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

^ for hexways

^ For Bala

maybe make 2 different builds idk, but Panic defo deserves some form of proper Build for HA, it's just amazing. --Frosty  23:17, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * well if we vett a panic build it needs to be more proper then this. Gringo 23:46, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * After the Mind Wrack and Overload nerfs, the second one probably isn't that good, since you can only trigger MW with DD and Overload, and Overload will work a lot less well with AoE interrupts now it need to hit a skill for the fast recharge. Widow maker 13:03, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Use Power Return, just pray you don't rupt shit ;o Brandnew 13:10, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

This needs to be split
We split the esurges based on whether they were balanced or spike, similar principle applies here. Toraen -Gifts Plz 20:31, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * pokes head out of bomb shelter* but... no one even runs this anymore *ducks back into shelter* Baned 20:48, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Archival
Due to all the henchways and bad henchfarmways panic (the "balanced" variant) is very popular. We may not like the meta, but we can't make it up like we'd like to have it. If the only reason for archiving this is that it "fell out of the meta" I have to disagree. --Krschkr (talk) 22:43, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I was pretty much taking Mvile's word for it (based on their vote) since I don't even look at HA anymore and figured someone would open discussion/revert if needed. I have no dog in this race so hopefully Mvile can explain further (vote said that bar hadn't been seen/used in a while). Maybe the problem was just that the hexway variant is on top? -Toraen (talk) 22:52, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I just did the test, went to HA and asked for mesmer builds. I received: psychic instability, panic, power block (in this order). Then I had a DC. This test doesn't say much, but it indicates that panic hasn't fallen out so far out of current play that archiving seems appropriate to me. And panic is what I come across most often in mesmers during my irregular HA adventures, so... but I don't mind waiting for some words from Mvile on this. --Krschkr (talk) 23:25, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 * For now, I've unarchived this, since Cyber Smoke shifted the balanced variant to the top and I guess that means you're not the only one seeing balanced Panic around. -Toraen (talk) 12:16, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the late response, still getting used to the site. Panic is obsolete and virtually never ran in actual HA teams. The only people that run panic are pugway groups or bots, or people who haven't played the gametype in years. All serious groups will only take you if you bring PI or PB. More experienced teams look for PB, PD, or possibly esurge if going duo mes or in place of a spike ele. Simply going to a random group and asking for builds doesn't indicate that it's being ran in either casual or experienced teams. Nobody runs panic in heroe's ascent. --Mvile84 (talk) 04:24, 20 December 2018 (UTC)