PvXwiki talk:Copyright Violations

As near as I can tell, this site hasn't yet chosen the license it will use. In order to legally copy the build and other article content that has been done thus far from GuildWiki, I believe it will need to default to using the same one as GuildWiki. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 06:05, 21 April 2007 (CEST)
 * Our mistake. We did indeed choose by-nc-sa as our license. How do we make that known? - Auron 06:17, 21 April 2007 (CEST)
 * Do we essentially create an identical page to the GuildWiki:Copyrights page? [[Image:DE Sig Test 2.jpg|50x19px]]  *Defiant Elements*   +talk  06:46, 21 April 2007 (CEST)
 * Yes, just copying the copyrights page over will accomplish it. Be sure to read the license before doing that, and decide if you want the copyright text to read the same version, or if you want to leave a clause for permitting the site to upgrade to a newer version of the license (you may want to discuss that).  There is a newer version available than what GuildWiki uses, but that site didn't include a clause to permit upgrades in the license.
 * When copying content - be sure to also mention where it's copied from (just stating copied from original version at GuildWiki on any articles copied should be sufficient). That satisfies the accredidation - and if GuildWiki deletes the article (such as the plan with the build articles), then you at least have documented that it originated from a site with a compatible license. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 17:16, 21 April 2007 (CEST)
 * Okay, maybe I'm wrong about some of that ... see User_talk:Gcardinal. After re-reading the license, I agree that credit must be given to the original contributors.  A screen or text capture of the history tab copied over to this wiki should be sufficient on that though. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 17:18, 21 April 2007 (CEST)

Copyright, license, permissions
The project page says: "All GuildWars art, images, skill icons, skill names and descriptions are property of ArenaNet, GuildWars Official Wiki and used by permission under Guild Wars Community Fansite Program and/or under CC by-nc-sa." And yet none of the file description pages contain any licensing information, source information or copyright status. A blanket statement that they are free for use isn't a legal defense. Which images are fan kit and so covered by the fan kit clauses and restrictions (which you don't list anywhere either)? Which images are under cc by-nc-sa? Similarly, isn't the Guild Wars Official Wiki under different licensing conditions to cc by-nc-sa? I think it may be GDFL.

"All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners." It's all very well paying lip service to that, but if they are the property of their respective owners, then you cannot use them without their express permission...

"All other content on this site is copyright by the respective authors, and is available under the Creative Commons license, unless otherwise noted. All other information, art and images, are Copyright to their original creators." Again, if this is the case then it cannot be reproduced here without permission. A cursory glance at the file list shows several copyright violations already...

I don't want to stir up trouble, but these are issues that are best resolved at the outset of the wiki's existence, not left until its almost irreversible a la GuildWiki. Good advice is to adopt the image attribution policy now being formulated at GuildWiki and apply it thoroughly. 89.240.254.161 17:44, 5 May 2007 (CEST)


 * Edit to add:One of my colleagues has just pointed out that as GuildWiki are now applying correct copyright, license and permission information to their images, the cast majority of those images will fall under the "used with permission [from Arena net/NC Soft]" and will not be


 * released under CC by-nc-sa
 * released for use by third parties (eg PvXwiki)

This will restrict your images to those released in the Fan Kits, each of which must be annotated with all copyright and other notices associated with the content. Furthermore, you cannot alter, disassemble, decompile, reverse engineer or in any other way modify the images. 89.240.230.92 18:42, 5 May 2007 (CEST)
 * Please point to images where we are missing copyright notice. Out copyright was more or less adapted from GuildWarsWiki. And they dont have any notice on they skill images and since those are almost the only images we use and going to use "officialy" on our wiki I dont see any problem at all. http://wiki.guildwars.com/index.php?title=Image:Blinding_Flash.jpg&redirect=no As long as official wiki not going to add any specific notice we are not going to waste our time on that. GCardinal 19:59, 5 May 2007 (CEST)
 * Image:SolusHalo.jpg...Image:SolusWwe.jpg (see )... Image:Hp pvp.png (You agree that you will not alter, disassemble, decompile, reverse engineer or in any other way modify the content). As for the official skill images, none of them states their source, their copyright owner, nor the terms and conditions under which you are using them. And official wiki DO include a specific notice which states unequivocally "This image is the property of ArenaNet or NCsoft and used with permission. The terms of the permission do not include third party use. It is not released under the GFDL." You do not have permission. GuildWiki are doing the same thing. Anyway, it has been brought to your attention. Whether you choose to "waste your time on it" rests entirely with you. but it would be a shame in a few months to see all that hard work suddenly being closed down and removed because somebody at this opening stage couldn't be bothered to "waste their time". You have wonderful gifts of foresight, it would appear. 84.13.253.157 23:51, 5 May 2007 (CEST)
 * I don't quite see how I as admin can monitor each and every images that gets uploaded to this site? If there will be a problem we will fix it. I'm sure that our site is not on top of the list of the biggest copyright "not-followers" and since the only images we "official" use on this wiki are created by me, used under GNU or re-used under some CC I dont see a problem. I take care of all "official" parts of the site and as long as guildwars Official wiki (wiki.guildwars.com) has not added a copyright line to each of 1400 skills images on they site we are not going to use our time on that. GCardinal 00:19, 6 May 2007 (CEST)

License version
'Please note that all contributions to PvXwiki are considered to be released under the a CC NC-SA 2.5 License.' If we're using the 2.5 version, how come the link on this page goes to the 2.0 version? --Wizardboy777 23:45, 21 September 2007 (CEST)

The page footer should really have the "BY" in it as well. I realize that at this time there are no CC licenses that omit the attribution requirement, but why not let people see it's required? --84.128.198.137 03:18, 24 June 2008 (EDT)


 * Well, "BC" is a step in the right direction, but it's really "BY" - as in, you have to state "this was made BY author". --84.128.198.137 19:03, 24 June 2008 (EDT)
 * Ooops, fixed. –&thinsp;H HHIPPO  &thinsp;&lsaquo;sysop &rsaquo; 04:48, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

Phen's Todo
Add in a paragraph or two about:
 * Fair use (and how it only applies to GW images on here, nothing else (comfortably) falls under FU for us)
 * Derivative work (that's taking copyrighted work and changing it ever so slightly. In other words, not allowed)

Copyright's fun, amirite?  ~ PheNaxKian talk  00:38, 11 January 2012 (UTC)