User talk:Innoruuk3307

/Community War: 9/29/09

Cupcake
Wouldn't happen to be a relation of yours would he?--TahiriVeila 00:48, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Moved Build
I've moved the build and talk page and archive into your userspace, so it won't be touched by anyone else now. I've also added a link to it on your main user page. Athrun Feya 01:38, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Dear people who have this page watchlisted,
if you don't have a real reason to be involved in the pissing contest that has apparently developed on this user's page, click "unwatch" and stop being a nigger. trolling really is an art and most of you are fucking terrible at it. (Innoruuk - this doesn't pertain to you at all. I'm just using your page as a bulletin board.)

note: if you're reading this and think i'm being an asshat, i'm probably talking to you.

with all the love in my heart,

···  Danny  Pew   Pew  06:39, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * There is love in your heart? -- -Ch  ao  s is  gay -   09:20, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Probably not but he makes up for it with all the love in his loins :O --TahiriVeila 21:48, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * I can c this. He had some profane moments with the neighbor granny the other day, and because she was old they did it in the pace of the churchbells. Then the ice-cream truck drove past and the poor woman had a stroke. 'twas worth it tho, Danny had a great time with the twitching body. -- -Ch  ao  s is  gay -   21:55, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Would like to help test this build
IGN : S P E E R I T I can run any of the above rits, and possibly the assassin. I will be on Monday-Friday after 7 pm EST and satruday to sunday Will be sporatic, generally after 12 pm EST.
 * I wouldnt mind helping test either i can most likely do any of the tanks and im getting my rit up there. IGN : Folepa The Sin

Folepa

Moved Build
I moved your DoA Xinway build to User:Innoruuk/Team - DoA Xinway as per your request. -- Drah 04:07, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

tbh
Signing isn't that fucking difficult to figure out. type 4 tildes to leave sig and timestamp. that's the squiggly line ~ thing. Or you just click the button on your editing toolbar that says "your signature with timestamp" and looks like a signature. It makes pages look a lot less convoluted, and lets people (especially admins) mediate disputes and track the course of conversations that occur cross-category on talk pages. --Shazzy diddles 04:40, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey Shazam,
 * Stop being retarded.
 * By all accounts, I would assume Inno is either a) completely new to wikis or b) from a foreign country where typing 4 tildes and having it process correctly on his keyboard doesn't work as smoothly as you'd think, given that multiple other foreign users sign the same way.
 * Thanks,
 * ···  Danny  Pew   Pew  18:03, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Sry, I thought you had to do 4 tildes AND do the name thing. From now on I'll have that rectified. Thanks for pointing that out. Innoruuk 18:18, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Tyvm. Shazzy diddles 18:55, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * I thought he was american =/ - Athrun Feya [[Image:Athrun snow sig.gif]] 18:56, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, America is like the asshole of the Tellus, so yeh. -- -Ch  ao  s is  gay -   19:00, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well the fact that he has a large vocabulary compared to most people on the site, and he actually makes builds that work and are arguably less boring to play, I'd say he's a pretty smart American kid who just has no idea how to get along with the people here and doesn't understand vetting policy. --Shazzy diddles 19:05, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * He also failed editing quite hard :o but people learn and we have a policy stolen from GuildWiki that says we should forgive people -- -Ch  ao  s is  gay -   19:07, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

AND FORGIVE VVE SHALL
THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF A NEW ERA WHERE EVERYONE WILL LIVE IN PEACE AND PROSPER AND NONE WILL TROLL INNORUUK, BECAUSE WE FORGIVE AND FORGET AND TAKE ANGER MANAGEMENT IN THE HOPE IT CURES OUR AUTISM. -- -Ch  ao  s is  gay -   19:07, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * That's actually pretty fuuny, cause I got Ausberger's Syndrome. And how did I fail editting? What post are we talking here? Also, I am American...Innoruuk 21:40, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * These guys actually guessed it, gg. -- -Ch  ao  s is  gay -   21:56, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ignore him, he is just trolling, most of the stuff you will get on your talk page is random trolling so don't take it too seriously -- Frosty  Mc Admin  21:57, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * i think its hilarious someone with aspergers is less retarded than other people on this site though (like jai)--Relyk 22:48, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * </3 Not saying much though coming from a guy who never posts more than a single broken sentence at a time. --[[Image:Jaigoda_endrant.jpg|/rant]]  Jai  writes a  lot . . . 02:29, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Not to sound rude or high and mighty, butr there are 2 forms of ausbergers syndrome. 1 is you get kinda stupid. 2 is you're way smarter than average but lack many social skills and it is very difficult to develop them. Innoruuk 03:02, October 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * One is aspergers and the other is autism, lol. - Athrun Feya [[Image:Athrun snow sig.gif]] 03:04, October 3, 2009 (UTC)


 * Social skills is when you play football with the Aspergers kid and all he does is mutilate people with.. is it slide-kicks that you call them? He never seems to get hurt by anything, which I think is partly due to his medication, and he used to slap his own face when he gets sad (pill´s do wonders..) which used to be quite common, it's not easy to be the kid with Asperger's. He has scars on his temples. Amazing goalie though, wonder if he has stopped throwing his cap at people when he can't stop them. -- -Ch  ao  s is  gay -   06:38, October 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * i love chaos's anecdotes--Relyk 07:49, October 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * /heart. I tried to fix the grammar a bit. -- -Ch  ao  s is  gay -   09:31, October 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * One of my housemates has dyspraxia + aspergers. He remembers everything and always tells random stories and can't tell that noone wants to listen sometimes, so carrys on regardless. Also he had a weird fascination with death - Athrun Feya [[Image:Athrun snow sig.gif]] 10:59, October 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * I missed out on all the cool traits of Asperger's :< My memory is like swiss cheese; all the good bits are gone. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG]] -- (contribs) &emsp;(talk)  12:10, October 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Is there like not a single person on PvX with a shit ton of mental disorders? -- -Ch  ao  s is  gay -   12:13, October 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Why do you think we spend all day inside, talking to people we dont know. - Athrun Feya [[Image:Athrun snow sig.gif]] 12:22, October 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * We're all miserable and have no real ways of spending our days, so we epeen here. Let's create a page to list the PvX hierarchy in order of might :> -- -Ch  ao  s is  gay -   12:23, October 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * You should, those things are always pretty lulzy to read. - <font color="CornflowerBlue">Athrun <font color="CornflowerBlue">Feya [[Image:Athrun snow sig.gif]] 12:24, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Sup?
PvXwiki:Indenting, if you don't mind :> -- Chaos  -- 14:37, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * ^ can you please try and at least make an attempt to indent more things around pvx. failing to do so disrupts the flow of conversation which many members find annoying. - <font color="SteelBlue">Athrun <font color="Black">Feya [[Image:Lau_bfly.gif]] - 11:53, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I usually only don't when it gets past 7 or 8 indents, but alright. Innoruuk 20:19, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Just hit edit, copypaste the previous amounts of indents and add one. Also, means you're carrying on with the previous indent but starting from 0 to make it easier. You can do that when it gets long. -- Chaos?  -- 12:14, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

guide
sorry, I thought you would have seen the move on Special:RecentChanges. <font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian <font color="#8A2BE2">talk  01:35, March 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nope, didn't know that section of edits existed, and I wouldn't know how to look through the list to find it. Thank you, but you have to change the original pathing url first lol, coding doesn't work that way. Innoruuk 01:38, March 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * you actually don't have to change the link first. you do it when someone notices the page is missing. or at least that's our way of doing it. ···  Danny So Cute    03:31, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Question
Are you a Shugo? <font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan <font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]   05:30, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't know what that means. Innoruuk 02:00, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

about DOA mesway
you should try that, it works great. since u created a DOA mesway topic, im just giving you some ideas.

caller: OQZDAswzQiOqDuNpi2gmOcAwl

sigmaster close tendril killer: OQRDAcwyQ8U/AmO5ZeexkvN3g

sigmaster far tendril killer : OQRDAckSS8U/Api5ZmOTVyl3g

esurge mimic : OQNDAswzQpinAmObACOaAwlBB

fast spikes, fast single targets killing--ComeOnItsMe 16:31, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Namespaces
The last three four pages you created are all in the Main namespace. If you intend for them to be subpages, you have to prefix the name with Build:Team - Trio Farm/(subpage name). --  Toraen   talk  00:50, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, that many subpages isn't particularly elegant. Just have everything on one page and DISCUSS how it could be split up before doing a whole bunch of work. --  Toraen   talk  00:53, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
 * God I hate new policies...old formatting was easier on the average user. I'll get on it. Innoruuk 00:55, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
 * ...It's been the same forever. I mean, not literally, but since the last time you were here it hasn't changed significantly. --  Toraen   talk  00:56, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
 * It used to auto-sort namespaces of pages created within build pages. There was a template for referencing another build, but there wasn't this extra namespace for sub page garbage. That said I've not looked at the policies since about two years ago so my fault I guess...Innoruuk 01:00, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
 * No, it's not an extra namespace for subpages. it's literally that you just create a page in the same namespace that the build is in (Build:) with the build's name in front. When you created links to those pages, you didn't put a / before the name, so you ended up linking to a Main namespace title. --  Toraen   talk  01:03, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

I like the flow of less indents...get over that I started new here. Did I get the namespace for the "absolutely necessary..." page right? Innoruuk 01:04, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
 * No, there's no prefix before it (something before a colon) so it's in the Main namespace. Also, the name of a subpage should be more concise, since a full link to that subpage would be if it were in the correct location. If you want to create a subpage by linking from a build, create something like /Stygian Veil (note the / before the name) on that build page and it should link to . If it doesn't... yay I get to add another thing to the "Curse please fix this" pile. --  Toraen   talk  01:10, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Ugh, subpages ARE disabled in the Build namespace (probably since it's a custom namespace and that's the default). Well, you did create the link correctly, which I guess was the one you were actually talking about. --  Toraen   talk  01:13, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
 * It is /Stygian Veil, correct? Innoruuk 01:15, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

NVM the fact this comes up is proof I got it right don't bother...
 * Ok Curse is pissing me off. I used to be able to code and sort pages perfectly fine... Toraen, please just code the first link for me. I can follow after that with anything else. Name it "Stygian Veil Exception"... Innoruuk 01:25, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

zzz
it'll be easier if I had your ign so i can go over with what I'm talking about and maybe see the build ran :/-- Relyk 06:40, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Your vote on SF 600/smite
I may want you to remind I actually copy-pasted the vote. Don't name me a troll when your own builds look more like it. <font color="3333CC"><font color="3300CC">Le Shadow Form <font color="3366CC">Slayer     17:08, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I may want to remind you, you don't vote based on what the current meta style is. You vote based on actual effectiveness... Innoruuk 17:10, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Effectiveness: How effective the build is in what it is doing. It farms stuff. It farms bosses/it does dungeons. Farming: dozens of builds are much faster. Dungeons: Almost every dungeon is ran by an Assassin or Ranger, with the exception of FEW. Boss farming, done by eles, done by assas, done by necros, even Ressmonkeys build is way better than 600/smite nowadays. <font color="3333CC"><font color="3300CC">Le Shadow Form <font color="3366CC">Slayer    [[Image:Marker.jpg|17px]] 17:17, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Can't include running builds in this...as per boss farming...he doesn't say this is what that build is for. Try again please...with feeling. Innoruuk 17:27, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * It is an example, it's what all 600/smite do: Farm/Run dungeons. That's all, That's it! I feel you are just crying about a build being trashed for a good reason. <font color="3333CC"><font color="3300CC">Le Shadow Form <font color="3366CC">Slayer    [[Image:Marker.jpg|17px]] 17:41, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * That's not all they do. UW is still a good place to farm, FoW, DoA...yes anything having to do with undead, but come on...you're being quite narrow-minded. Innoruuk 17:53, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * That's where speedclears are for anyway. 600/Smite has gone outdated and most of the people on pvx agree. Have you noticed the day 600/Smite SF was created? Wait, I'll have a look... March 2, 2010. Look at that. <font color="3333CC"><font color="3300CC">Le Shadow Form <font color="3366CC">Slayer    [[Image:Marker.jpg|17px]] 18:05, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The day it was created or the day it went into testing? Also, let's face it, not every noob can do t-way. I can, but I know plenty who can't. And, if we don't store inferior builds on PVX, why is there even a good category :P. Innoruuk 18:36, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * For builds that aren't great..isn't that obvious? Why would good=inferior? Roland 21:21, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * ^Good builds have a niche where they aren't completely overshadowed by something else. --  Toraen   talk  01:18, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
 * "Good" are still very effective builds that are worth having on the wiki, it's a nuance with vetting. As is users copypasting votes. For my thoughts on it, using SF is a variant of using spell breaker. It takes up your second profession, you have to split attributes for it, deadly paradox takes a valuable skill slot, and in areas where maintaining it would be necessary, people just bring QZ. SF is sadly too niche to justify a build. It's better to put such decisions of using it up to the player.-- Relyk 02:44, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
 * If I remember correctly it always too two slots to maintain SB anyway. And QZ takes up another person's slot... If it's up to the users to decide whether or not they'd use it, shouldn't there be a space for recreation builds or something? Innoruuk 06:07, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
 * It's called userspace, and it's conviniently linked from the main page as Sandboxes. There is no restrictions on what builds you can have in userspace, so recreational (i.e. non-optimal) builds can go there. Adding the user sandboxes category allows others to more easily browse userspaces. However, we won't ever be doing an extensive sorting of it as with the build namespace because the work behind it would be enormous, and we'd end up putting restrictions and formatting rules that would defeat the point of a vetting-free area. --  Toraen   talk  15:49, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

And therein lies the problem of a few people vett a build then thousands of players choose only the ones vetted up while others fall into obscurity despite the fact that they work (and in this case rather well) Posting a shadow form version of 600-smite should at least go under a variants section of the main 600-smite build :P. Innoruuk 18:11, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Feel free to add it on all the vetted 600/smite builds, it's perfectly acceptable for people to know it's an option ^^-- Relyk 22:14, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

moo
"You can't put an actual rating on a build or call it meta until it's been vetted by at least 5 members of the PVX community. Sorry to be a shitter but take consideration of the variants in discussion." Actually anyone can tag it for meta before it's vetted, not that you should for PvE builds. Also the votes got wiped in the move, so it was already vetted.-- Relyk 03:04, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, no for PvE builds. Those have to get vetted first. Only HA/GvG get to bypass vetting, and that's because vetting just hasn't been able to keep up in those areas. --  Toraen   talk  13:58, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

help with a build
Hey, not sure if you are still active but I noticed you were working on Archive:D/any_FoW_Farmer a few months ago. I haven't tried the build yet myself, but noticed there were some edits that needed to be fixed. The Variants section refers to swapping out Signet of Mystic Speed, and the Usage section mentions Signet of Mystic Speed as being very important, but the skill is no longer listed in the main bar. Any thoughts on this? I want to clean the page up, but since I haven't run the build yet I'm not sure whether to add that skill back in, or remove it from the usage section. Any thoughts? BrianG 15:30, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You always make the notes follow the mainbar. -- DANDY ^_^ -- 15:49, 5 March 2012 (UTC)\
 * Obviously. I think you're missing my point. The mainbar has been changed since the notes were written, but I'm not sure if the change to the mainbar is valid, considering they are inconsistent with the described usage. If this new mainbar is fully functional, the usage of it as such should be described. The current usage notes say that a certain skill is very important, but it isn't included with the current mainbar. Are the notes incorrect? Does the build listed in the mainbar work without this important skill? I'm looking for someone who has run the build to weigh in. Have you? BrianG 18:13, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
 * No, I haven't. But five years of editing these pages has taught me that the mainbar is often edited (mostly in a better direction), although most of the time people simply forget to adapt the notes accordingly. Thus, you just change the notes to be in accordance with the listed skills.
 * Did that shed any light on the matter? -- DANDY ^_^ -- 10:09, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, I follow you. Still, without having used the build myself, I don't feel comfortable editing the usage notes to explain how the new mainbar is used. I will do what cleanup I can (variants section for example). Feel free to take a look if you like. BrianG 21:14, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh. I edited from my phone, and now had a look at the bar. If a skill is listed as a variant, it's perfectly natural to explain why and how it's used. -- DANDY ^_^ -- 22:18, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, but mystic speed wasn't in the variants section, so it didn't make sense (someone took it out of mainbar but didn't move it to variants). I've got it fixed now. :) BrianG 18:13, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Wow It's been a while since I logged on to see the PVX snobs. And someone's actually talking on my page!!! Welcome one and all!!! Innoruuk 23:19, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, in terms of the fow farmer...Mystic speed is really only necessary when fighting skeletons. If you want to skip those mobs it's just as well. It's up to the farmer. It's mentioned in the notes at the bottom. Innoruuk 23:25, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback. I've edited the variants section to include mystic speed, so now it matches up with the usage notes. Out of curiosity, what's your personal preference for whether to bother with the skeleton mobs? Does it make a big difference in the profitability or riskiness of the run? BrianG 18:11, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * It all depends on luck, but I consider it worthwhile to farm skeletons for the extra shards. Innoruuk 20:22, 22 April 2012 (UTC)