Archive talk:Team - HA Euro Spike

Name
so the name comes from pokemons? Thats quite interesting, but i believe you should name it according http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/PvXwiki:Build_Naming_Policy#Naming_Your_Build. —KowboyBebop   ,  13:48, 15 February 2009 (EST)
 * No one likes policy whores--Golden [[image:Goldenstar.JPG|19px]]Star 13:49, 15 February 2009 (EST)
 * No one lieks pokemons these days.—KowboyBebop   ,  13:52, 15 February 2009 (EST)
 * I think everybody would agree that, from this point on, we start ignoring User:KowboyBebop, yeah? As for the name, we have Rawrspike, Omegaspike, and all the other retarded names out there, Wooperspike actually sounds amazingly awesome.  Ricky [[Image:Ricksawsmface.PNG]] vantof  13:57, 15 February 2009 (EST)
 * With a HA build that doesnt really have any clear theme besides spiking, any name will do, so I say leave as is. --- [[Image:Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG|15px]] Ressmonkey (talk)  14:03, 15 February 2009 (EST)
 * what would a euro wooper look like 19:56, 15 February 2009 (EST)
 * +(^_^)+  Ricky [[Image:Ricksawsmface.PNG]] vantof  01:15, 16 February 2009 (EST)

We need a new name for this, we're not having a team named after a Pokemon, no matter how much you like them.--Liger414 18:22, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

The LS Monk
Isnt having RoF on the LS kind of unnecessary?killA runa   Leet! 23:33, 15 February 2009 (EST)
 * Perhaps... You can take Shielding Hands or Power Drain or something. Or RC lulz.  Ricky [[Image:Ricksawsmface.PNG]] vantof  01:14, 16 February 2009 (EST)
 * Pdrain... wait... wut? No human monk has time to use it. Take it on heroes, not humans. Drag  nmn   talk cont  16:35, 16 February 2009 (EST)


 * Play HA someday. -- ›[[Image:Many srs beans.png|Srs Bean Mafia.]] Srs Beans R Srs  16:38, 16 February 2009 (EST)
 * I sorta quit GW 2 months ago. People take Pdrain on human monks? Drag  nmn   talk cont  16:50, 16 February 2009 (EST)


 * Yes. -- ›[[Image:Many srs beans.png|Srs Bean Mafia.]] Srs Beans R Srs  16:55, 16 February 2009 (EST)
 * Mostly to Pdrain AoE.  Ricky [[Image:Ricksawsmface.PNG]] vantof  16:56, 16 February 2009 (EST)
 * This builds backline is extremely brave, yet slightly womanly 17:06, 16 February 2009 (EST)
 * Well, it's not a regular backline because it has over ninethousand defense :>  Ricky [[Image:Ricksawsmface.PNG]] vantof  17:08, 16 February 2009 (EST)

Fixed your backline, that infuse was fucking horrendous--Golden Star 17:14, 16 February 2009 (EST)
 * You just can't handle manliness! We actually ran this with Dual PnH and that supposedly horrible infuser and we won more than 6 times or even more!!!  Ricky [[Image:Ricksawsmface.PNG]] vantof  17:15, 16 February 2009 (EST)
 * Yes but with HB you can sit on an alter and spam HP on recharge while still maintaining single target healing that's just as good as WoH, really no benefit to running it =\--Golden [[image:Goldenstar.JPG|19px]]Star 17:17, 16 February 2009 (EST)
 * What happened to Pdraining SH all of a sudden? ;<  Ricky [[Image:Ricksawsmface.PNG]] vantof  17:19, 16 February 2009 (EST)
 * I prefer P-Drain instead of waste not want not. Its easier to interupt somebody than to catch them doing nothing.killA <font color="Blue">runa  [[Image:Frenzy.jpg|18px|User:Killaruna]]<font color="#D70000"> Leet! 18:20, 16 February 2009 (EST)

wooper
is a rly bad pokemon, therefore this is a rly crappy name--Relyk 03:08, 17 February 2009 (EST)
 * Flame this target in 321. Brandnew.  03:48, 17 February 2009 (EST)
 * I have no words for this.  Ricky [[Image:Ricksawsmface.PNG]] vantof  05:25, 17 February 2009 (EST)
 * Which one was wooper anyway? I mean, if you really were going to name a build after a pokemon, the least you could do is name it after an iconic one or something. 86.31.159.72 20:20, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Wowowowow, stop being so terrible people. Wooper must be one of the strongest pokémon ever. Not to mention he is best friends with Piplup and Spheal, because they live in the same street and go to the same school. How dare you say Wooper is not an iconic pokemon. Really. Terrible. Rickyvantof 20:33, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * All the new pokemon are flaming homosexual and fucking retarded. Piplup?! Wopper?! THAT IS FUCKING GAY.  If you like ANY pokemon (besides Typhlosion or Piloswine, who rock the socks from Gold/Silver) that is 152+ on Pokedex, you have a +90% likelihood of taking it up the butt... Rly, if you are going to name it after a pokemon name it after a REAL pokemon, like Raichu, Moltres, Jynx, BLASTOISE, Mew (or Mewtwo), etc, etc, etc.  IDK who the fuck this wooper guy is butt he sounds like he takes it where the sun dont shine. Pokemon are cool, but new pokemon are for fucking fags.  Real men play Red/Blue, Pokemon Stadium 1, Collect original cards, and enjoy season 1.  You fucking pvx fags and your new homo pokemon.... --[[Image:Bim_sig.PNG|19px]]Bim (talk|contribs) 01:53, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Who actually plays pokemon now a days... -- Dr ah  [[Image:Drah-Sig1.jpg‎|19px]] 01:55, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * "Real men play Red/Blue, Pokemon Stadium 1, Collect original cards, and enjoy season 1." i lol'd. I'm gonna go with "real men don't play pokemon" on this one --[[Image:Tai_Sig.png]] <small style="font-variant:small-caps"><font face="verdana" color="black" variant="small caps">01:57, 24 February 2009 
 * Yeah... -- Dr ah  [[Image:Drah-Sig1.jpg‎|19px]] 01:59, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Pokemon is a good ass game, and if you deny it you either have a 20 foot pole up your ass or you are retarded. Pokemon is fun, easy to play, timeless, and much MUCH better than GW.  If i play some good ol' Red i dont have to deal with fuckers all over the place and a game that has gone against all its promises (no grind?  i gave up on that after a few quests in factions......).  Plus i usually have nothing to do during school and it beats sleeping. --[[Image:Bim_sig.PNG|19px]]Bim (talk|contribs) 02:03, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * X marks the virgin. -- Dr ah  [[Image:Drah-Sig1.jpg‎|19px]] 02:03, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Touche sir, but that still has nothing to do with pokemon being a good ass game. Also, you have a MASSIVE signature--[[Image:Bim_sig.PNG|19px]]Bim (talk|contribs) 02:07, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Meh i'll change it in a minute. And pokemon red/blue was only good for about a year. -- Dr ah  [[Image:Drah-Sig1.jpg‎|19px]] 02:10, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * This series of comments made my day. I quite literally started laughing, and could not stop. Thank you all for relieving my stress during midterm week. 209.129.174.189 18:13, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

just wtf. Godbox 18:32, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

backline
You have party heals out your ass, why are you running HB instead of WoH?--Goldenstar 04:45, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Goldenstar, you are sooooo bad. Check history, YOU were the one that changed the WoH into a HB. Rickyvantof 12:58, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe the words were "take a decent heal monk, don't be fucking stupid" Rickyvantof 13:02, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

IV necro
I played this build once. Defenses are really good, but imo too much. Replace the IV nec with a SH (or a B-Surge ele, who can helps spikes with lighting hammer, and in this case you can drop the MoI mesmer) or another turret will provides better pressure or more damage. So, you can take weaken armor to de PoD nec instead rend. Kill should be more easy with this change and defenses will be still enough. Raisen 13:17, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * eh...pressure? and taking out rend? lolol good joke ^_^ <font color="Black">Rickyvantof 16:49, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * you have a PoD nec, right? Isn't PoD enough? Or you can also replace a heal with rend, if you really love it. And you think that an IV nec can do more damage then a SH ele? This build has so much defenses and so less damage. It needs more damage, so kick a necro is the only way. Raisen 17:40, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

The Maths
They do not add up. The damage is like.. 650, with DW. Meaning, if you catch an AL 60 clean and Divine Favor doesn't come within 10 feet of him, you might kill something. (Unless this is supposed to be over a 2 second spike. It that's so, ignore wot I just said and pray the other team's infuse and rc are too stoned to red bar.) 128.255.216.144 22:24, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * it's b/c this is bad eurospike, you should be running dual ranger instead of the IV so you can pewpew and spike every ~3 seconds--Goldenstar 23:05, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Fix it nub <font color="Black">Ricky [[image:Ricksawsmface.PNG]]<font color="Black">vantof 05:53, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Stub this
Hardly anything is written up &mdash; LukeJohnson   19:49, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Nerfed
WE, Shadow Fang and PnH were nerfed. Archive? --80.134.108.252 08:38, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * yep. <font color="Black">Drah <font color="DarkRed">Mc <font color="Black">Ninja  05:42, 21 May 2009 (UTC)