User talk:Wilson3081/UW Manlyway

Your MoP Caller doesn't have Essence Bond. Minion  23:38, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you didn't even realize that I pasted it wrong! Adacer 23:44, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries. Not sure why this is called "VsFway"; looks more like MoPway (aka Manlyway). Minion Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg 23:46, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Named it what I did cause myself and a couple guildies put it together and so I named it after guild. Adacer 23:48, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * That's against the rules though. It should probably be called UW Manlyspike, in keeping with other builds using similar setups. Just fyi, we did have an UW manlyspike before, but it got changed into Archive:Team - UW VoS Spike which doesn't even use MoP. Not sure if that affects this build much, but probably good to know. --  Toraen   talk  00:49, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Shadow Form is not that manly TBH. 82.26.158.33 14:53, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Cleanup
Please tell me what I need to do to bring it to standards and I will Thanks! Adacer 01:21, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Cleaned it up and Should be good now. Adacer 01:51, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Alright, although I think others will probably want to suggest some changes it's good enough to remove the cleanup tag. --  Toraen   talk  02:03, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
 * This build needs some serious changes. Change the MoP to normal MoP build again just kick Foul Feast for Pain Inverter. Put Wisdom on the Emo and kick Vital Blessing worth nothing. The VoS needs IAU instead of Fleeting Stability imo, lasts longer for the wastes. + Won't the VoS need Unseen Fury or it will be powned by the aatxe? Eiion X 10:55, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Before commenting test the builds and understand them please. The builds have been tested on 10+ runs and are working as intended. Adacer 17:38, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Time
So what is the average time/ record of this build? Sjan  08:07, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Average times so far are 30-45 mins depending on how well of a team u have. Adacer 14:38, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Screenshot?Sjan [[File:Rsz 160px-dervish-tango-icon-200.png]] 14:54, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure Will get one up when we do our next run. Adacer 15:14, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Posting Screenshots soon. Adacer 17:38, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
 * As requested here is a screen shot with having 2 complications and still finishing in 46mins. Adacer 22:32, 6 July 2011 (UTC) http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr300/adacer82/gw025-1.jpg

Worth it?
This versus Archive:Team - UW VoS Spike, or should we just add all ways you can do UW, and this build has more duo's which makes it unsafer. I just think one should be taken.(Remove any you want I don't care) 82.161.39.143 17:09, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Just out of curiousity how is this one unsafer? And imo the above builds in Archive:Team - UW VoS Spike are sloppy and have no generic originality. The only way I could see mine being unsafer is if t3/4 have no actual clue as to what there doing. Adacer 18:50, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Pits duo is just chance on fail, sloppy builds you say?, i thought you said above that you should first understand and test them first. But i dont care Delete VoS Spike. Sjan [[File:Rsz 160px-dervish-tango-icon-200.png]] 19:17, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I understand and have ran Vos Spike It's not as efficient. Sure like I said the pits/planes duo can fail if there not experience so that being said relies on the team composition and how folks form there teams etc and so, but at the same time the pits/planes dont have to duo and can just wait for the mainteams help its optional but not optimal. I personally have ran pits duos many times and never had a problem duoing it. most pit duos fail because the one who is suppose to be bowing tries to center tank instead. Adacer 19:25, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

ye sure man w/e idc. Sjan  19:43, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Vote Up Please.
Ok folks all builds are final and ready to get this moved to meta so can we get voting going please. Adacer 22:09, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Incompetence!
Ok Well since everyone seems to be imcompetence to how these builds actually work and doubt it I'm going to ask the Admin to Move this to the archive and keep it for my guild to do 35-40 min runs cause haters will be haters and I don't feel like dealing with there incompetence. Good riddance on the crappy Vos Spike team build thats there and let this one fade out cause obviously the community is not good enough for something that actually takes using there brains to do. Oh and thanks for the crappy ratings from the ones that are obviously crappy players your input is worthless. Adacer 15:20, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
 * When you try to say that people are traashing it because they don't have enough skill to use it, there's about a 90% chance that you're a massive scrub. Also, we don't store "trash" builds in archive, because that's meant for historical purposes for builds that actually were used. Instead, you can move it to your userspace, with a name like User:Adacer/UW Manlyway or put it in a sandbox or build section under your userspace. -- Jai . -  15:29, July 13 2011 (UTC)
 * Only Trash is the people voting on it and furthermore I dont care what you would like to call me. Difference is with me I have skill Rather than complete noob like the people who voted on it. So obviously it really doesnt matter to me cept for the fact that I was merely trying to offer the community a alternative but it appears there to incompetent for it. Guess all I can say is that it would suck to be them. Adacer 15:46, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I think it does work, but if you are going to add so many of these UW variants build, which are usually only run by one guild. Then we need to make an UW tag. If my build is not favored i just put it in my :::sandbox to show the people who care about it. In your case you can make a guide in your sandbox maybe for your friends and guildies, who are new to this way.Sjan [[File:Rsz 160px-dervish-tango-icon-200.png]] 15:53, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Look, stop getting butthurt over something that doesn't make that much of a difference. And again, stop playing the "skill" card, because it's not going to help you here, and only makes you look worse. Also, "alternative" builds almost never go well here, because they tend to be slower for no advantage other than being novel. For instance, this build (though it's apparently been updated since the last SF nerf) used essentially the same arguments that you are using now to try to prove that it was worth keeping. However, the argument against it was that it was quite simply slower than the other UWSC builds, and had no other major advantages to make up for the loss of speed. If it's not significantly safer than Terraway, then there's simply no reason to vett the build. On a side note, you made a huge mess of moving the build. -- Jai . -  16:11, July 13 2011 (UTC)