Archive talk:Mo/Me Shiro'ken Slayer

One flaw, you can't have an illusion headpiece and an illusion rune or any mesmer rune for that matter, on a monk's armor...

Interesting
Farming Shiro'ken with their own Famine is such a cool ideal. I wonder if this build could be updated somehow. Tried a few builds but the pressure is just too much, especially because they have rupts/e-denial and I can't use blocks because I'd need them to hit for the mesmer enchants to work. --DefinitelyNotHanz (talk) 17:23, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I've managed to farm the first two groups with consistency now, only making minor changes to this. Doesn't sound too viable but it's a start. However, I know Shiro'ken Assassins can drop Oni Daggers in Raisu Palace, and I've got an Oni Blade in Unwaking Waters already, so maybe these too drop Oni Daggers? I'll keep farming this on and off and see if the daggers drop. Would be a passable farm then, maybe.--DefinitelyNotHanz (talk) 21:42, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * By now you should have killed a few thousand Shiro'ken. Any good drops? --Krschkr (talk) 02:18, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Interesting indeed. I just tried it out myself.  It seems like it has trouble with the warriors though.  They heal themselves.  Shiro'ken also drop Forbidden Staffs! I am going to play around with this as well :)  Mozo (talk) 04:28, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I can get through the melee of the first group but once you get to the others, they cast Shroud of Silence on you and everything is useless. A bonding hero also does not seem to work since they have Song of the Mists which steals away all of your health.  Its like you would need a bonder and a perma seeder to survive tanking everything. Mozo (talk) 05:00, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I've been slacking so I'm nowhere near thousands haha. No epic drops yet. @Mozo make sure to have a martial mainhand weapon! Then the Shiroken don't care to hex you at all. Sometimes a war or two survives, I just pull them into the assassins. I'm also abusing LoS when pulling the assassin group because I don't want to get hit by rangers, I pull them behind a pillar at the bottom of the stairs and then I can kill most but it doesn't always work. This is what I'm running atm: OwUUEyR+Y4Q1DaR4keQiARA6DyDA - you could also try Illusion of Weakness instead of the norn skill. That slot is optional right now, trying to figure out what to put there. --DefinitelyNotHanz (talk) 12:03, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I played around with it a bit. If you replace the norn skill with Finish Him! you can easily kill that remaining warrior if you use it immediately after the others die.  Same with the assassin group.  You can also use an EoE hero instead.  I played around with that as well.  I dropped Finish Him and Balthazar's Spirit to take Shielding Hands and Visions of Regret with the EoE hero (with Balth spirit).  OwUVESROs3CnRLWPWJRARgbzDqPA  Doing it this way, I ball on the rangers, spamming Spirit Bond then Shielding Hands -> Visage -> Spirit Bond -> VoR -> Spirit Bond -> other Visage.  With EoE up, this sometimes* kills the whole ball.  But not all the time.  The Rangers might survive.  Also, the assassins still sometimes rupt me even with the stance up and while holding an axe...  I also take a 20/20 prot offhand.  I definitely feel like this is possible just need to figure it out :)   Mozo (talk) 00:32, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * The method I mentioned above works in normal mode pretty well, but I do not think it would be worth the drops. I also noticed that the assassins have Wild Strike which removes stances and is unblockable.  They also have Disrupting Stab which is why I keep getting rupted.  Mozo (talk) 18:52, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Assassins aren't that bad, they run out of energy in <1 second. Once you get used to this you barely ever get interrupted. But the droprates are absymal for some reason. I've been farming this on and off for ages and I believe I got maybe 1 rare item out of this. Kinda sad, really wanted to make this work. --DefinitelyNotHanz (talk) 16:54, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Anti-farm Code :P The groups are too close to the entrance, you engage them too soon, and there are too few of them. Its sad.  I wish there was a reliable way to farm Shiro'ken. MozoGW (talk) 00:18, 13 December 2020 (UTC)