Archive talk:Team - SoO Dervway

This is my first build posted, did it several times with other dervishes. Most like it, I hope you like it too. Still working on better variants for A/N. Sjan 15:46, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks manly. [[Image:AsuraSignature.jpg|15px]] Anvil God  zzz... 15:58, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Why not take Barbs on the curser and daggers on the dervishes? You're not using any scythe skills and banishing strikes is a melee attack. This will give you better energy management and more damage. Dzjudz sig.png talk 16:38, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Scythes hit 3 foes. Daggers would need to attack 2.5x faster than a scythe to outdamage a scythe.  [[Image:AsuraSignature.jpg|15px]] Anvil God  zzz...  16:54, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah my comment was a bit superfluous once I realised Barbs wouldn't work ;). Disregard it :p. Dzjudz sig.png talk 16:55, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

We tried that already, but scythes have more damage, or you have to get 9 dagger mastery instead of scythe mastery which makes spikes slower. If you use daggers you can at single targets; Fendi, Cursed Brigands. Sjan 17:10, 5 June 2011 (UTC) We made a new Support Sin Variant too:)

[build prof=A/D name="A/D support" sha=12 win=12 earthp=3][Shadow Form][Shroud of Distress][Dark Escape]["I Am Unstoppable!"][Ebon Battle Standard of Honor][Mystic Healing][Mystic Sandstorm][Ebon Escape][/build]

The A/N seems not to stay easy alive at fendi, this one should work better, and why can't i see it on trial builds at the mainpage? Sjan 17:57, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Now you can. [[Image:AsuraSignature.jpg|15px]] Anvil God  zzz... 18:04, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Why Recall? I can see no reason why ebon escape wouldn't work better. It would improve your survivability during running and potentially mean you could drop skills such as Vow of Piety for something like twin moon sweep or more damage? Edeth 09:19, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

So where's reap impurities?-- Relyk 09:43, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

@ Edeth, Vow of Silence makes you not able to cast Enchantments Spells. Recall is easy. @ Relyk, only 1 Derv could take it anyway and it doesn't work really good at Fendi.Sjan 11:45, 6 June 2011 (UTC)


 * ofc, didn't think of that. This looks quite good fun, I'd like to try it on my derv at some point, IGN Zealous Mystik. Gimme a pm if you need one for a run. Edeth 13:34, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Changed the a/n build for the a/d one weaken armor wasnt profitable enough. A/D shouldn't use Mystic Sandstorm if there isn't a good body block it will cause scatter. --Sjan  15:01, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

I think its ready for the testing phase, altough I already did several times. --Sjan  19:37, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

I am seeing no A/N in this build. It is mentioned in the directions so I am confused.

Thanks, changed it too a/d support the a/n was replaced by an A/D support.--Sjan  13:53, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I think it is done now. The good things about this build are no body block needed at single targets, high single target what makes leftovers, Fendi and Cursed Brigands faster. You wipe less with one necro out off the ball, some bad things about the build are: Only 1 Healer, A/P job is harder if the a/d doesn't do his job good (I think its just a matter of time before the pugs learn it). One or two dervishes will die if A/D is dead. Fendi can be fail for the VoS if they don't use Signet of Mystic Speed to recast shroud. Lags kills you overthere althought most dervishes will survive 1 chillbains. I think D/A fit also great in normal Snoways just for some nice single target damage. I hope for the best. --Sjan  19:47, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm excited that there is a SC for dervs; looking at it, I think it would be fast and efficient. If you want help testing it, PM me (IGN Ethereal Heritage) EtherealHeritage 18:32, 8 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Ofcourse you help testing it althought i already know 8 dervishes that ever did SoOsc with dervish. Sjan [[File:Rsz 160px-dervish-tango-icon-200.png]] 20:36, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Sjan, I think I was one of the AD Gaters with you on the test runs. You asked for my input and I'm glad to see it on the right path in the optionals. I find Feigned Neutrality the easiest just to slap in. It leaves you with this:

[build prof=A/D name="A/D support" sha=12 win=12 earthp=3][Shadow Form][Shroud of Distress][Dark Escape]["I Am Unstoppable!"][Ebon Battle Standard of Honor][Mystic Healing][Feigned Neutrality][Ebon Escape][/build]

It's great for gating, but not so hot in instances where you need to bodyblock and spam heals/honor. But honestly, with 7 other people able to bodyblock, and not a constant need to have that enchantment up, it's fine.

A question re: the Dervs. I imagine switching to a Vamp Scythe can get a pretty good heal spike if you run into trouble. Don't see that mentioned anywhere if that's proven.

It should also be mentioned that just like the Echo-RoJ Me/Mo and Mo/Me's, the Derv spikers fit in just fine over a snow. --RhymellRunehand 13:40, 9 June 2011 (UTC)


 * With a vampiric Scythe you can't spam banishing strike, but you health should be better(you add that). The A/D gater doesnt need to body block just cast honor and you could go out and heal like crazy. Sjan [[File:Rsz 160px-dervish-tango-icon-200.png]] 17:43, 9 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Good point re: the Vampiric Scythe. And yes, we agree that the A/D doesn't need to bodyblock. They also don't need to be Mystic Sandstorming in a full group of 4-6 Dervs.--RhymellRunehand 17:54, 9 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Mystic Sandstorm will cause scatter if not body blocked just use it whenever there is a bodyblock. Sjan [[File:Rsz 160px-dervish-tango-icon-200.png]] 18:11, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Wow:P some french site copied it all:P Sjan   21:03, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Is it vote time? (first build posted) Sjan  12:18, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Meta
It's time. I got turned down to go on snowway today. Everyone is after good derv runners :P Innoruuk 02:55, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
 * really haven't been doing SoO for too long, will check that out.Sjan [[File:Rsz 160px-dervish-tango-icon-200.png]] 07:40, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

What Happened?
One week this was an all-the-rage build, and now no one's running it...any guilds out there that consistently run this still? Innoruuk 21:27, 19 April 2012 (UTC) Good Dervish Damage: : Mysticism =6+1+1 Shadow Arts =11 Daggar Mastery =12 This build with good support like Strength of Honor, Great Dwarf Weapon, judge's Insight can do way more damage than al dervish builds I have see here above. you don`t need signet of mystic speed to keep up VoS or SoD, just be quick casting it when VoS is down...if you notice you receive al damage and that Fendie or soul of Fendie is focusing on you (and maybe have some lag) just step away from the rest of the team to cast it. Anyhow by time you have to recast SoD, Soul of fendie shud be (almost) death. If not, something is wrong (like what happens in most teams that I see lately~). Really only a few people in game seem to use a Flatbow of deathbane and the Glass arrows build~ or being able to run with the Dagger Dervish build (without using VoS during running~). Or Monk/RT/Me supporters that bring superior rune headpieces for spike, and some shield set and minor rune headpiece to switch to when running. How to use Ebon Escape in a smarter way so they not get stuck or can't keep up~. Most annoying is people that show of there Obsidian armor, expensive miniatures, Chaos gloves and just are to fucking cheap ass to use some P/Cons to make the run real fast and smooth going~ even when the party leader is giving away free cons. With cheap pricks like that in your team you will never kill Soul of Fendie in 1 spawn, witch is to me the most worse anti climax from the run~ 3 people in the team that bring LoD~ (have see that happen many time)its fucking sad. It really seem that's the only thing they care for. If the run is a total fail and takes a total time of 45 minutes~ Its no problem as long they have there treasures...even if you could have done 3 runs in the same amount of time and still can have your treasures.--likepax (talk) 13:24, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

I really don't see why this team setup stil is on this site. Like Innoruuk saying in the section above, i have see people run this setup for like 3 year ago. And that lasted for only 1 week. This way doing SoOSC Dervishway really is total crap. There is a way better and 3x faster Team setup for Dervishway (same speed as Rangerway), but sadly, it has proven many times that its way to hard for most people in the game, also much too complicated to understand how it works.--likepax (talk) 22:04, 15 January 2015 (UTC)