Archive talk:P/W Tactics Defensive Anthem

atts go over 200 max. reduce spearmastery or tactics by 1. Mgelo21 04:31, 27 June 2007 (EDT)

97(12 leadership) + 48(9spear) + 48(9tactics) < 200 --Edru viransu 04:41, 27 June 2007 (EDT)

Personally I always run 12, 12, 10 (tactics) on this. The point is that this is primarily a DPS character with a bit of defence on top, and the extra damage from 2 more points in Spear Mastery massively outweighs the benefit of one more second on Defensive Anthem, which is all 14 Leadership gives you (you certainly don't need it for energy in this build). But whatever, the build's been pretty much knocked out of the meta by the DA nerf anyway. 87.74.52.141 15:23, 3 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Please explain how on earth you manage to get 12/12/10 with 200 attribute points.Rawrawr Dinosaur 19:25, 6 July 2007 (CEST)
 * think it is with runes Zyber 16:27, 8 July 2007 (CEST)
 * 11+1 spear, 10+1+1 lead, 10 tac. - Auron 16:29, 8 July 2007 (CEST)

Kick SU, go GftE. Optional Vicious. Readem (talk *pvxcontribs ) 19:52, 8 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Shields up is leet, it's against rangers so your team won't be always interupted. Unexist 09:35, 10 July 2007 (CEST)
 * ...what? Readem (talk *pvxcontribs ) 20:07, 10 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Go for the eyes is too mutch attribute spread. You usually go either tactics or command, this is tactics version. But to make you happy, i've made a command variant. Unexist 20:30, 10 July 2007 (CEST)

You only need like 3 command for it be effective, and it ends faster then "WY" + it synergizes with Vicious so you have DW. Standard bar: That's the bar people run. Readem (talk *pvxcontribs ) 20:43, 10 July 2007 (CEST)
 * This is the defensive variant, i've ripped it off from vD. Unexist 20:45, 10 July 2007 (CEST)
 * Oh and btw, one of the main reasons to take this build is in Tournaments, where you expect to face for example, a paraway(which takes mirrior of disenchantment). Or the upcoming 2 war 2 pargy build(which also got NR/Tranq = no aegis or guardian), for example. Unexist 22:51, 22 August 2007 (CEST)

Archive?
Bars need changing or the build needs archiving. I haven't seen anyone using SU or SY for ages. I don't know how much DA is used any more, though, but I haven't seen it much either. Objections to Archive? - PANIC!    sexiness!  08:49, 23 April 2008 (EDT)
 * I think everyone prefers Song of Restoration these days, but it got hit pretty hard recently. Wait to see what happens? Maybe DA could come back, otherwise, archive. - [[image:miserysig1.jpg]] isery   -TALK  08:52, 23 April 2008 (EDT)

Should we bring this back out of the archive? Can drop the warr skills and hav "Make Haste" and "We Shall Return". Is pretty much the standard DA para about atm thn. Zuko 02:19, 12 June 2008 (EDT)