User talk:Sjan/Sandbox/UW Physway

People still use Physway? I didn't think so, although my guild did it yesterday for the first time in a year or so. MoP included, so no point with aohm :p Minion  18:27, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Gotta say that Holy damage > the MoP tbh. -- [[image:Chieftain Alex Sig.jpg|19px|link=User:Chieftain Alex]] Chieftain  Alex  18:31, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

This should be a variant of the wota, but i hope it works:) Sjan  19:14, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Alex; MoP damage is lol, what're you smoking yo. Minion Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg 04:20, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Afaik AoHM doesn't change dmg to holy anymore does it? Falrach 06:26, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * It doesn't i guess, but why use MoP. Sjan [[File:Rsz 160px-dervish-tango-icon-200.png]] 09:55, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, we're using MoP now since the nerf to our single-target DPS. While still being reckless, there are alot of pre-formed balls in UW which you can blast to smitherines quite quickly. You've got 100b wars, VoS dervs, you *had* turret/barrage rangers, but the aftercast kills them. The damage from MoP helps with 4H alot, when camping the spawns, Rigor Mortis helps alot in Mountains, etc. And he can take EbsoW so a physical doesn't have to. Minion Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg 13:38, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Looking at this derv bar again, it does look good. My only issue is people tend not to like running Pious Renewal due to having to spam it every single skill... But, if willing, it would be a great trigger character. Minion Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg 13:41, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * It can be annoying yes, but i would like this setup(if its even possible:
 * 2x physical
 * 2x emo
 * 1x SoS
 * 1x Orders
 * 2x terra
 * this:) Sjan [[File:Rsz 160px-dervish-tango-icon-200.png]] 18:18, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * One perma is enough; if they're good enough, they can clear Mountains, do the quest, do Pools+Quest, hold 4H side. Another would be dead weight. The SoS isn't really necessary if the Perma is tanking 4H, also. Just hope your ERs are pro and don't need the Panic Party Heal Button. Three phys, 2 ER, 1 MoP 1 Orders, 1 Perma= gg. Minion Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg 18:37, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I did it with my guild before the asuran scan nerf, record was around 40 mins, terra's really speed it up, we just need to know if 2 dervishes can manage escort, the hardest part. --Sjan [[File:Rsz 160px-dervish-tango-icon-200.png]] 18:44, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * What did the second perma do? Minion Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg 19:13, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Just like the UBway; t2 mnts+Q 4h pools+Q, t3(we called it that way because he did plains) plains 4h pits clean, if t2 was very fast he helped cleaning pits. --Sjan [[File:Rsz 160px-dervish-tango-icon-200.png]]
 * Definitely sounds like one perma is leeching to me. One perma can get everything done in 30 minutes, while the main team can do the other half in that time. I wouldn't have more than one. However, it's really down to personal preference, if you prefer lots of permas, then so be it.  Minion Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg 20:45, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * .:::::::::Run R/A+glyph sin. Have ur glyph prep planes while r/a does m+p, duo 4H, r/a pop pits&glyph glitch shit. Voila, every quest down there done in 25 min (if your good) mainteam should be finished by then, and u got <35. Just my 2 cents. 82.95.65.117 21:11, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Leeching, we usually had pits popped and rest of the quests done within the consets, you cant make that with one terra i guess. and for the r/a it's more casual not really speed. Of course that will be the fastest, but why don't do terraway then. Sjan [[File:Rsz 160px-dervish-tango-icon-200.png]] 21:54, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Exactly. If you're going to start having multiple permas, might aswell just not play Physway. I would like to see your usage, though. Minion Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg 02:41, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
 * ok i'll write you a short usage: Team did>Clear the chamber>Pop vale+quest>Escort>UWG (kill first 3 keepers when taking quest)> Wastes pop+quest> Tele. T2: Mnts+quest> 4h> pools + quest> clear pits. T3: Pop plains>4h>pop pits+clean. Usually the mainteam was finished when both terra's were clearing pits, in Pits we did center with the team. These were the record tactics. Sjan [[File:Rsz 160px-dervish-tango-icon-200.png]] 16:02, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

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OoV bar looks a little silly. Should bring two hex removals, and why all the summons? No Earthbind for Dhuum is understandable if you're doing it for time. And please, please, please; don't call the ER eles Emos... It was just an excuse for a bad pun for SCfags. Also, why does each ER have the same prots? Shield Guardian and LA nowhere to be seen. Minion  13:28, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, drop the ZR derv bar and keep VoS, although I'd variant Eremite's for TMS, because TMS is better when you have GDW for KD spam. Minion Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg 13:37, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Shield Guardian is updated, Summons are mainly for escort to give them a better target, hex removals aren't needed at all tbh, LA could be a good variant for infuse spamming. What do you mean with ZR? ... PR?   Sjan  [[File:Rsz 160px-dervish-tango-icon-200.png]] 13:49, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * ups Pious, yes. I'm not much of a derv, but I know Staggering Force+TMS=gg. Hex removal is a safety net for your ERs, and if they are hexed with Migraine and have to recast ER... Well, gl. Afaik, summons, esepcially the caster ones, follow you and don't scout ahead; maybe make it an optional slot and suggest using a summoning stone of any kind. Ymlad is nice for rupting Rend and taking down Ghastlies while team runs past to save time; saying that, I still kill everything in the way for ecto chance.  Minion Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg 16:30, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * ye, we used to use summon stones too. We did it because it was fun to rush:P Sjan [[File:Rsz 160px-dervish-tango-icon-200.png]] 16:32, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * What the fuck... When did Shield Guargian get an update?! Minion Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg 16:47, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Little sneaky update recently Sjan [[File:Rsz 160px-dervish-tango-icon-200.png]] 16:49, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * :( That was my favourite skill as an ER, after GDW. Meh, guess I'll just use PS or RoF instead, not a big loss. Might even slot Ebon Escape for lazy running :p Minion Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg 16:54, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * It was great for physway, good heals, and spammable almost. Sjan [[File:Rsz 160px-dervish-tango-icon-200.png]] 17:01, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Still need to do this sometime. As Wota is was always fun to spam 123 and hit like 200. Sjan talk  20:16, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * RIP Ascan. Minion Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg 23:29, 4 September 2011 (UTC)