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This build is provisionally vetted great pending more votes.

This build has received a provisional rating in the range from 4.75 to 5.0 and thus qualifies for the highest category of working builds: Great.

This build has been designed for the following use:

Hero team build for caster profession players based on discord, keystone signet and bone minions. Mercenary heroes are not required.

Overview

General Variant Core Version Fevered Dreams Player Variant
Player  Any / Assassin     

Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support.jpg"You Move Like a Dwarf!".jpgAssassin's Promise.jpg"Finish Him!".jpgOptional.jpgOptional.jpgOptional.jpgOptional.jpg

Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support
"You Move Like a Dwarf!"
Assassin's Promise
"Finish Him!"
optional
optional
optional
optional
      Mesmer / Ritualist     

Arcane Conundrum.jpg"You Move Like a Dwarf!".jpg"You Are All Weaklings!".jpgFevered Dreams.jpgFragility.jpgAccumulated Pain.jpgWandering Eye.jpgFlesh of My Flesh.jpg

Arcane Conundrum
"You Move Like a Dwarf!"
"You Are All Weaklings!"
Fevered Dreams
Fragility
Accumulated Pain
Wandering Eye
Flesh of My Flesh
Mesmer / Ritualist     

Arcane Conundrum.jpgSignet of Clumsiness.jpgWandering Eye.jpgIneptitude.jpgEpidemic.jpgAccumulated Pain.jpgHex Eater Signet.jpgFlesh of My Flesh.jpg

Arcane Conundrum
Signet of Clumsiness
Wandering Eye
Ineptitude
Epidemic
Accumulated Pain
Hex Eater Signet
Flesh of My Flesh
      Hero 1  Mesmer / Ritualist

Arcane Conundrum.jpgSignet of Clumsiness.jpgWandering Eye.jpgFevered Dreams.jpgFragility.jpgAccumulated Pain.jpgMirror of Disenchantment.jpgFlesh of My Flesh.jpg

Arcane Conundrum
Signet of Clumsiness
Wandering Eye
Fevered Dreams
Fragility
Accumulated Pain
Mirror of Disenchantment
Flesh of My Flesh
      Mesmer / Ritualist     

Energy Surge.jpgUnnatural Signet.jpgSpiritual Pain.jpgMistrust.jpgCry of Frustration.jpgPower Drain.jpgDrain Enchantment.jpgFlesh of My Flesh.jpg

Energy Surge
Unnatural Signet
Spiritual Pain
Mistrust
Cry of Frustration
Power Drain
Drain Enchantment
Flesh of My Flesh
Hero 2  Mesmer / Necromancer     

Signet of Sorrow.jpgSignet of Disruption.jpgSignet of Distraction.jpgSignet of Weariness.jpgKeystone Signet.jpgSymbolic Celerity.jpgAnimate Bone Minions.jpgDeath Nova.jpg

Signet of Sorrow
Signet of Disruption
Signet of Distraction
Signet of Weariness
Keystone Signet
Symbolic Celerity
Animate Bone Minions
Death Nova
      Mesmer / Necromancer     

Keystone Signet.jpgSignet of Distraction.jpgSignet of Disruption.jpgLeech Signet.jpgSignet of Sorrow.jpgSymbolic Celerity.jpgAnimate Bone Minions.jpgDeath Nova.jpg

Keystone Signet
Signet of Distraction
Signet of Disruption
Leech Signet
Signet of Sorrow
Symbolic Celerity
Animate Bone Minions
Death Nova
Hero 3  Mesmer / Necromancer     

Signet of Sorrow.jpgSignet of Disruption.jpgSignet of Distraction.jpgLeech Signet.jpgKeystone Signet.jpgSymbolic Celerity.jpgAnimate Bone Minions.jpgDeath Nova.jpg

Signet of Sorrow
Signet of Disruption
Signet of Distraction
Leech Signet
Keystone Signet
Symbolic Celerity
Animate Bone Minions
Death Nova
Hero 4  Necromancer / Paragon     

Discord.jpgPutrid Bile.jpg"Fall Back!".jpg"Stand Your Ground!".jpgRip Enchantment.jpgMasochism.jpgAnimate Bone Minions.jpgEnfeebling Blood.jpg

Discord
Putrid Bile
"Fall Back!"
"Stand Your Ground!"
Rip Enchantment
Masochism
Animate Bone Minions
Enfeebling Blood
Hero 5  Necromancer / Paragon     

Discord.jpgPutrid Bile.jpg"Fall Back!".jpg"Stand Your Ground!".jpgFoul Feast.jpgMasochism.jpgBlood of the Master.jpgEnfeebling Blood.jpg

Discord
Putrid Bile
"Fall Back!"
"Stand Your Ground!"
Foul Feast
Masochism
Blood of the Master
Enfeebling Blood
Hero 6  Necromancer / Ritualist     

Blood is Power.jpgBlood Bond.jpgSignet of Lost Souls.jpgMend Body and Soul.jpgSpirit Light.jpgSpirit Transfer.jpgProtective Was Kaolai.jpgLife.jpg

Blood is Power
Blood Bond
Signet of Lost Souls
Mend Body and Soul
Spirit Light
Spirit Transfer
Protective Was Kaolai
Life
Hero 7  Monk

Healing Burst.jpgDwayna's Kiss.jpgSignet of Rejuvenation.jpgProtective Spirit.jpgShield of Absorption.jpgCure Hex.jpgSpotless Mind.jpgDwayna's Sorrow.jpg

Healing Burst
Dwayna's Kiss
Signet of Rejuvenation
Protective Spirit
Shield of Absorption
Cure Hex
Spotless Mind
Dwayna's Sorrow

Hero builds

Variable Mesmer Hero

  • The standard option is a fevered dreams hero.
Position 2 Variant: Hero Variable Mesmer Fevered Dreams
You activate Spells and Signets 53% faster. (No effect for non-Mesmer skills with a cast time less than 2 seconds.)
In PvE, the recharge time of your Mesmer Spells is reduced by 48%.
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  • If you prefer more physical shutdown instead of anti-caster, replace the fevered dreams mesmer with one based on ineptitude:
  • If you play a fevered dreams mesmer as the player build, you can either take the ineptitude hero or a domination magic mesmer of choice:

Keystone Minion Bomber 1


You activate Spells and Signets 53% faster. (No effect for non-Mesmer skills with a cast time less than 2 seconds.)
In PvE, the recharge time of your Mesmer Spells is reduced by 48%.
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Keystone Minion Bomber 2


You activate Spells and Signets 53% faster. (No effect for non-Mesmer skills with a cast time less than 2 seconds.)
In PvE, the recharge time of your Mesmer Spells is reduced by 48%.
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Discord 1


Gain 9 Energy whenever a non-Spirit creature near you dies, up to 3 times every 15 seconds.
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Discord 2


Gain 9 Energy whenever a non-Spirit creature near you dies, up to 3 times every 15 seconds.
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Blood is Power Healer


Gain 10 Energy whenever a non-Spirit creature near you dies, up to 3 times every 15 seconds.
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Healing Burst Hybrid


Your allies are healed for 38 Health whenever you cast Monk spells on them.
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Player Build Options

  • The player build should ideally be a caster initiating combat with Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support and providing conditions and hexes. This is most commonly done by Assassin's Promise caller builds, which are available to most professions:
  • Fevered dreams mesmers can open combat with simultaneous dazed, crippled and weakness conditions in the area and therefore don't need to lead with the assassin support for aggro management.

Usage

  • Wait until foes ball up by themselves.
  • Use Ebon Vanguard assassin support to divert the initial aggro away from your team. This allows your heroes to strike first and gives the minions time to push up and soak up subsequent aggro.
  • Pick a centrally located target and call it for your heroes. Provide conditions and hexes so they can start killing with discord.
  • The area damage of keystone signet, death nova and putrid bile should cause a chain death once the first target falls.
  • Discord and signet of sorrow will clear remaining single targets.

Notes

  • This hero team build is designed to make effective use of discord without inefficiently using secondary profession skills. It will work fine for most hard mode content such as explorable areas, missions, most dungeons and the winds of change questline, but struggle in areas such as the domain of anguish, the underworld and slaver's exile.
  • General strengths are a solid damage output which is balanced between single target and area damage. Despite the thin backline the team is stable due to a minion wall alongside midline defense such as, weakness, blindness, "Stand Your Ground!", Arcane Conundrum and interruption. Defense and offense are interlaced by using defensive conditions and hexes for discord as well as the co-occurrence of interruption and damage or low level minions with fast cast death novae. Blood of the master and blood bond help to keep minions alive until the next encounter.
  • In order to function properly the build requires exploitable corpses. It will also suffer from massive enchantment removal such as mirror of disenchantment or chilblains; without masochism and symbolic celerity the midline damage output will be decreased.

Some common issues of necromancer minion masters have been tackled by using keystone signet minion bombers. Avoided issues:

  • Damage/healing hybrid AI issues: Heroes dealing damage when they should heal or overhealing when they could deal damage.
  • Death nova and healing skills on the same heroes, causing them to use death nova on a target instead of healing it.
  • Masochism on a healer causing inefficiency due to the need to selfheal frequently.
  • Minions and death nova on the same necromancer minion master. Due to the long casting times this would frequently cause the necromancer to fall behind.

Eased issues:

  • The necromancer with animate bone minions possesses "fall back!", so if he falls behind he and his minions should be able to close or tighten the gap.
  • Because of 16 fast casting mesmer minion bombers will fall behind less than non-mesmer minion masters. Nonetheless it may occur every now and then.
  • Trouble to compete with opposing minion masters, as their minion creation time is reduced by 50% in hard mode.
  • Blood of the master on a minion master. Heroes tend to sacrifice a lot of health with this skill, making them prone to die mid-combat losing their minions. They will never sacrifice themselves to death, though, unless they run masochism. The health sacrifice of masochism is "hidden", so heroes won't consider it when calculating the health sacrifice. Deaths due to blood of the master may still occur in this team build, but won't have the same impact as no minions would turn masterless.

Counters

  • Areas devoid of exploitable corpses.
  • Too much continuous area damage melting away the minion wall.
  • Mirror of disenchantment/Chilblains can remove death nova from all minions or symbolic celerity from both minion bombers, causing the team's damage to be reduced.
  • Excessive hex or condition removal preventing discord from meeting its conditions.

Gameplay Video

Cleansing Bukdek Byway [Hard Mode Only]; player build: Discord Necromancer.

See also

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