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There's already a very similar thing on PvX: Build:D/Mo RA Life Sheath
In the past I've tried making it more universal, I wonder if we could update the first build to have the best of all 3 pages without making it a mess. For starters I'm all for dropping Meditation, never been a fan of it. --DefinitelyNotHanz (talk) 16:42, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- Oh right, they're really pretty similar, although I remember trying different elite skills like LS and running into a lot of trouble with them. That dual target hex removal is a life saver. Could probably use LS over ER in this one with mystic regen = veil, but in order to make LS noticeably effective without spamming all your energy for it you'd have to invest quite some attribute points, lowering the effectivity of your other skills, which iirc hurt quite a lot, combining less health from vital boon with a reduced conversion rate from imbue health. And I think meditation was needed because LS is inefficient. But I'm a bit dead right now and can't think, so go ahead and merge these to the compromise you deem best. It has my approval. --Krschkr (talk) 22:10, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- Now I'm not sure about it :/ For the sake of clarity, if I merged the two pages I'd have 2 bars on the page, one for each elite. Overall the difference between the two would be 2-3 skills and a couple of attributes, does that warrant its own page? If it'd be more popular I'd say yes, but derv heal is such a niche build, so I'm still torn about whether we need 1 or 2 pages. --DefinitelyNotHanz (talk) 09:16, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- The old way was to create pages for single skill differences in PvP. Just take a look at all the apply poison rangers we have: Magebane Shot (+ HA variant), Burning Arrow (+ Turret Variant and All In Variant), Melandru's Shot (+ HA Variant), Cripshot, Incendiary Arrows, Concussion Shot (+ All In Variant) and a Meek Shall Inherit Build which is sort of the build core without elite skill. In my opinion 10 of these builds could be merged into 1. At least some builds like melshot and cripshot. Or, an example at which my archival/merge attempt earlier this year failed: Magehunter's Smash and Devastating Hammer which share 7 skills, differing only with their elite skill which is almost the same and used exactly the same. I asked Sync (hammer warrior player who won plenty of mATs in the last few years) about it and he sees those two builds as interchangeable. With those builds in mind having two pages for two similar dervish healers seems well-justified to me. --Krschkr (talk) 09:36, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- Okay, let's keep them separate ^^ --DefinitelyNotHanz (talk) 13:44, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- The old way was to create pages for single skill differences in PvP. Just take a look at all the apply poison rangers we have: Magebane Shot (+ HA variant), Burning Arrow (+ Turret Variant and All In Variant), Melandru's Shot (+ HA Variant), Cripshot, Incendiary Arrows, Concussion Shot (+ All In Variant) and a Meek Shall Inherit Build which is sort of the build core without elite skill. In my opinion 10 of these builds could be merged into 1. At least some builds like melshot and cripshot. Or, an example at which my archival/merge attempt earlier this year failed: Magehunter's Smash and Devastating Hammer which share 7 skills, differing only with their elite skill which is almost the same and used exactly the same. I asked Sync (hammer warrior player who won plenty of mATs in the last few years) about it and he sees those two builds as interchangeable. With those builds in mind having two pages for two similar dervish healers seems well-justified to me. --Krschkr (talk) 09:36, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- Now I'm not sure about it :/ For the sake of clarity, if I merged the two pages I'd have 2 bars on the page, one for each elite. Overall the difference between the two would be 2-3 skills and a couple of attributes, does that warrant its own page? If it'd be more popular I'd say yes, but derv heal is such a niche build, so I'm still torn about whether we need 1 or 2 pages. --DefinitelyNotHanz (talk) 09:16, 26 October 2018 (UTC)