Backfire sucks. Also, you have that much inspiration and no pdrain or drain enchant? And... what is ether phantom trying to achieve? You don't have drain delusions or anything that synergizes with it, so it's kinda... lackluster. -Auron 04:00, 16 July 2007 (CEST)
- If you read through the whole thing...EP is a great cover hex (-1 en degen, and if removed -4 en), Inspiration is for Auspicious Incantation+EP, and Backfire really hurts on a monk who can't remove it due to EP cover hex. Also mentioned if Res isn't needed, Drain Enchant should be added in, so there ya go. Plz read through the whole thing and try it first! :] Melvnatic 04:07, 16 July 2007 (CEST)
- Ether Phantom is a terrible cover hex, and backfire is a terrible hex to cover. Stopping a monk from casting is better than hurting them *after* they cast. Plus... deny hexes > this entire build. -Auron 04:45, 16 July 2007 (CEST)
- That's why we have powerblock+blackout...but thanks neways:] EP is a great cover hex, seeing as it lasts exactly as long as backfire, is cheap, has a good function and short recharge. Lots of people spam through BF, for some odd reason imo. I was actually thinking of shame/guilt as a variant. If you have a suggestion replacing EP... Melvnatic 05:00, 16 July 2007 (CEST)
- I would just take a standard Dom bar, and slap Pblock on it:
- That's why we have powerblock+blackout...but thanks neways:] EP is a great cover hex, seeing as it lasts exactly as long as backfire, is cheap, has a good function and short recharge. Lots of people spam through BF, for some odd reason imo. I was actually thinking of shame/guilt as a variant. If you have a suggestion replacing EP... Melvnatic 05:00, 16 July 2007 (CEST)
- Ether Phantom is a terrible cover hex, and backfire is a terrible hex to cover. Stopping a monk from casting is better than hurting them *after* they cast. Plus... deny hexes > this entire build. -Auron 04:45, 16 July 2007 (CEST)
You activate Spells and Signets 37% faster. (No effect for non-Mesmer skills with a cast time less than 2 seconds.) In PvE, the recharge time of your Mesmer Spells is reduced by 30%. |
Tycn 05:11, 16 July 2007 (CEST)
- So..switch out BF for shame? I really don't like the idea of removing Blackout though. You can disable a monk before a spike with it, or if some sin or warrior jumps at you -->blackout and no problem. Edit: Cover hex? Melvnatic 05:14, 16 July 2007 (CEST)
- For what? -Auron 05:21, 16 July 2007 (CEST)
- Also, auspicious + mirror sucks. Replace auspicious with drain enchant or blackout. -Auron 05:22, 16 July 2007 (CEST)
- Cover hex for diversion/shame. W/o auspicious this would die, with powerblock at 15 en, the rest 10en. I'm playing it atm, and auspicious seems very necessary (full energy with it). THough mirror of disenchant might be switched out if that's better... Melvnatic 05:25, 16 July 2007 (CEST)
- ...Not sucking at mesmer is required for pblock builds. If you run out of energy with Power Drain, Drain Enchantment and Shame, you're doing something very wrong.
- Also, nobody ever covers diversion/shame. It's pointless. -Auron 05:30, 16 July 2007 (CEST)
- Didn't notice that..haha...would this work?
- Cover hex for diversion/shame. W/o auspicious this would die, with powerblock at 15 en, the rest 10en. I'm playing it atm, and auspicious seems very necessary (full energy with it). THough mirror of disenchant might be switched out if that's better... Melvnatic 05:25, 16 July 2007 (CEST)
- So..switch out BF for shame? I really don't like the idea of removing Blackout though. You can disable a monk before a spike with it, or if some sin or warrior jumps at you -->blackout and no problem. Edit: Cover hex? Melvnatic 05:14, 16 July 2007 (CEST)
You activate Spells and Signets 37% faster. (No effect for non-Mesmer skills with a cast time less than 2 seconds.) In PvE, the recharge time of your Mesmer Spells is reduced by 30%. |
Revised Build[]
- Changed the build on the main page, if there's any suggestions I guess put them below here Melvnatic 06:21, 16 July 2007 (CEST)
- Blackout is rare in GvG right now, and guilt needs to come out for either PLeak or PDrain. Also, most memsers bring a hard res in GvG, note that somehow. BCTurk 00:05, 24 July 2007 (CEST)
This r gud[]
I prefer Shatter, but a lot of ppl know not what "E-management" and "Energy Conservation" iz. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 02:26, 31 July 2007 (CEST)
- E initial = E final
- gud
- With PDrain, put shatter in and tell them to suck it. BCTurk 03:55, 31 July 2007 (CEST)
Hard Res[]
This needs it. Res Chant, whatever. Use it and love it. —ǥȓɩηɔɧ〚₮/ḉ〛 06:21, 2 August 2007 (CEST)
- See above bar BCTurk 21:24, 2 August 2007 (CEST)
Get this out of testing[]
In order to get this build out of testing and vetted, I say we change it to the above bar posted by Readem, and drop drain for shatter, and list going Me/E with GoLE as a varient (losing Mirror for GoLE IMO, Aegis should be int by a ranger or your PLeak/PDrain combo). BCTurk 21:24, 2 August 2007 (CEST)
- Done, to all of the above. Remember that this is a wiki and that you can edit these builds yourself. Add any more suggestions into the variants. - Krowman {{sysop}} 07:38, 3 August 2007 (CEST)
- Needs more arcane echo imo. Shutdown 2 casters ftw. Unexist 10:00, 12 August 2007 (CEST)
- Fail r u? Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 07:18, 2 September 2007 (CEST)
- No. I'm talking about ha. - Unexist 17:40, 24 September 2007 (CEST)
- Fail r u? Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 07:18, 2 September 2007 (CEST)
P-Leak Nerf[]
Should this be archived after P-Leak nerf? This goes for most general Mesmers with it as well. --GuildofDeals 20:30, 6 February 2008 (EST)
- Just replace leak, you don't archive every build rofl — Skadiddly[슴Mc슴]Diddles 20:31, 6 February 2008 (EST)
- P-leak is still a good skill. Zuranthium 01:15, 13 March 2008 (EDT)
Meta change[]
Im surprised not to see Shatter Hex in the variants section at least. What with the current prevalence of water hex elemetalists and mesmers being run by about every team in the current meta, its odd not to see this excellent skill being used. it deals v nice AoE armor ignoring damage. or maybe we should look to the HEV mesmers again to brighten our day :P N.B. i personally dont GvG at all , guild too small :( , but i watch a fair amount of observer and i think SH should be included in the variants at least.Konradishes 23:03, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
- Inspired Hex is way superior to shatter hex. 15e is just too much. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 10:47, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
- Yah, i suppose your right :D I just think shatte hex is awesome, but still the 10 sec recharge is good so maybe if there were heavier e-managment... And inspired is also good i suppose. lol idkKonradishes 20:06, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
- Also; if people need the hex removal that badly they just insta-swap to Hex Eater Vortex for having a shatter-like effect. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 13:43, 28 November 2008 (EST)
- TBH though, dom mesmers aren't that common in the current meta anyway, are they?--GoldenStar 13:47, 28 November 2008 (EST)
- They are not the key of builds anymoer, like they were. They are still common enough tho(because people have been playing them for ages, they can't play other builds then with mesmer and classify it as 'honorable' playing). —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 06:45, 29 November 2008 (EST)
- TBH though, dom mesmers aren't that common in the current meta anyway, are they?--GoldenStar 13:47, 28 November 2008 (EST)
- Also; if people need the hex removal that badly they just insta-swap to Hex Eater Vortex for having a shatter-like effect. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 13:43, 28 November 2008 (EST)
- Yah, i suppose your right :D I just think shatte hex is awesome, but still the 10 sec recharge is good so maybe if there were heavier e-managment... And inspired is also good i suppose. lol idkKonradishes 20:06, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
Does anyone notice that...[]
There's a fucking hand in the PB icon? 08:01, October 6, 2009 (UTC)
- I didn't know, but I never really take actual time to look at the skill icons. Makes sense that there's a hand. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 08:11, October 6, 2009 (UTC)
Dammit[]
Anyone else bothered by the fact that Anet keeps putting mesmers down? I know Pblock lost, like, 3 seconds in the disablity time, but really. This is getting on my nerves somewhat.
- They should do something with fast casting according to what anet staff said. They said when a builds secondary professions skills become more powerful than when used on that profession as primary, they dont like it. Basicly they dont like builds like this and this I'm not saying they should nerf these im just saying how retarded it is they they nerf and nerf and nerf mesmer builds that use mesmer skills but ignore the builds they claim to see as abuse. --SteamyIgloo! 22:32, April 6, 2010 (UTC)