Spamming 10e skills is cool bro, I don't think drain enchantment is going to keep you stable though. 23:48, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
- No, but Shame, Inspired and Drain Enchantment will. PermaSwag 23:49, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
- ...Inspired costs 10 and gives 10 back, so it's just a free cast, shame is a net gain of 3 energy and has a 30 second cooldown. 00:05, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- You're able to cast PD maybe 10 times in a row if you had to, then you have energy management. Inspired turns the tables on most fights, stripping attunements or covers. It's amazing at stripping Patient due to 1/2 cast and number one rule of RA: disabling skills wins fights. You will soon know if you're going to win if you're any good with PD. PermaSwag 00:09, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- I have no doubt PD is good, I just think this bar as a whole is retarded. 00:10, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- the Arcane and Inspired skills work in such a way that when they revert, they aren't affected by PD's disable time and can be used on it's downtime, generally good for diasbling monks' 1/4 spells or disabling another mesmer and backfiring it's skills. This is much more useful than taking those skills. PermaSwag 00:13, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- You don't have infinite energy. If you can honestly run this build with zero issues then go make a youtube video and prove me wrong -_- 00:19, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- Lol. I'll wait for people who know about RA to comment. Guess I just have no credibility as yet. PermaSwag 00:27, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- I know you from before you were on pvx, you wanted me to teach you how to perma DoA, you begged for items and later on for bots. I'm pretty sure you're never going to get any credibility from me without video showing you pulling this build off. 00:37, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- Also "Panic prevents foes from casting for a maximum of 4 seconds. PI can prevent foes from casting AND MOVING for a MINIMUM of 4 seconds. See why it's better?". 00:38, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- Loool, that was years ago? I didn't even know how to do doabird then. PermaSwag 01:06, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- Ah, watch out gais, this dude's a RA master! After all, only pro's can pwn RA. This dude is obviously pro because he can spam 100e in ~25 seconds and still be at full mana yo. --jī·gō·dǔ - 2:26, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- What was your goal in posting that? 02:45, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- "people who know about RA" jī·gō·dǔ - 2:53, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- What was your goal in posting that? 02:45, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- Lol. I'll wait for people who know about RA to comment. Guess I just have no credibility as yet. PermaSwag 00:27, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- You don't have infinite energy. If you can honestly run this build with zero issues then go make a youtube video and prove me wrong -_- 00:19, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- the Arcane and Inspired skills work in such a way that when they revert, they aren't affected by PD's disable time and can be used on it's downtime, generally good for diasbling monks' 1/4 spells or disabling another mesmer and backfiring it's skills. This is much more useful than taking those skills. PermaSwag 00:13, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- I have no doubt PD is good, I just think this bar as a whole is retarded. 00:10, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- You're able to cast PD maybe 10 times in a row if you had to, then you have energy management. Inspired turns the tables on most fights, stripping attunements or covers. It's amazing at stripping Patient due to 1/2 cast and number one rule of RA: disabling skills wins fights. You will soon know if you're going to win if you're any good with PD. PermaSwag 00:09, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- ...Inspired costs 10 and gives 10 back, so it's just a free cast, shame is a net gain of 3 energy and has a 30 second cooldown. 00:05, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
If you guys are just going to bicker like my sister and the sorority girl threatening to run her over, stop now.--Relyk 03:02, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- Your sister is a dumb slut, I'm sure she deserved it. <3--TahiriVeila 09:11, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- It's almost like you're talking to saint :o Frostels 17:33, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah but with Relyk, there's no actual malice behind it. Saint was such an annoying assfuck, I'd totally throw it in his siter just to piss him off.--TahiriVeila 17:57, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- It was such an amusing grudge on PvX. Frostels 18:27, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah but with Relyk, there's no actual malice behind it. Saint was such an annoying assfuck, I'd totally throw it in his siter just to piss him off.--TahiriVeila 17:57, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- My sister is an idiot but in no way a slut compared to other girls in her sorority.--Relyk 19:40, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- It's almost like you're talking to saint :o Frostels 17:33, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Proper PD bar[]
can replace empathy with shame or powerlock. Could also replace empathy + leech sig with ether phantom + drain delusions. Happy now?--TahiriVeila 10:14, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- Mind editing the build instead of trashing? A PD bar is worth having on PvX. PermaSwag 18:27, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Funny note[]
Did someone notice that hes talking about skills but the bar has 2 attribute points not spent? Silen† 12:39, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Main Bar Change[]
Ok guys, I hear you. Thievery skills required too much luck to get off, so I've decided to rupt those 1/4 spells with luck via Diversion instead. Empathy in optionals, though I think Mind Wrack would be better as a cover hex for things like Faint or Glimmering Mark, etc. Inspired is still there because it's a free enchant removal which pwns eles. PermaSwag 18:00, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- The main problem is PD, not the bar(yes, the bar is bad too, but you can change it). PD is waaaayyy too old, with Pblock you can do the same thing, even if on a single player, without wasting 1000000000 energy and without getting your bar blackouted. Silen† 18:09, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- Oh, if you wish to change the whole bar youd better call for a vote wipe. Silen† 18:10, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- You realise PD is the best elite for sig shutdown in arenas? Sig shutdown wins games (see:ranger) And just shutting down Stoning/Shockwave, or both, is enough to make your team not be dead (for example). PD is far from terrible if you're good with it. PermaSwag 18:12, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- You do realize that you're wrong right? I love how you keep claiming PD is good if you're pro, but you never claim that you can actually use it. luzl 18:42, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, let me do that now: I use this build. It works. I win games erryday. PermaSwag 18:49, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- You cant mainbar PD only because it rupts signets. The only place where you can use PD is FA because...because...becuz itz FA! Silen† 18:55, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- Change the tag to FA and I'll 5-5 it. 19:06, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- Rupting signets and key skills wins games, zzz. It's called power play. PermaSwag 19:19, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- Pretty sure this is RA dood. 19:29, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- Dude, you are part of a random 4 man team, which means you are usually dependant on having at least 2 other competent players on your team. And in all honesty if you get 3/4 competent players on one team you could be running the shittest build you can think of and you would be successful, because it's RA. Stop talking like RA is a} in any way hard b) in any way serious. If it were up to me, in all honesty we would have ditched the RA category long ago (but that's another issue all together). Frostels 19:56, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- RA has been serious for a long time since TA died. People sync 24/7 and play for consecs. There are rarely purely random teams and builds should be vetted based on likelihood of x skill/team member for optimal play. That is all. PermaSwag 20:24, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- Rupting signets and key skills wins games, zzz. It's called power play. PermaSwag 19:19, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, let me do that now: I use this build. It works. I win games erryday. PermaSwag 18:49, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- You do realize that you're wrong right? I love how you keep claiming PD is good if you're pro, but you never claim that you can actually use it. luzl 18:42, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- You realise PD is the best elite for sig shutdown in arenas? Sig shutdown wins games (see:ranger) And just shutting down Stoning/Shockwave, or both, is enough to make your team not be dead (for example). PD is far from terrible if you're good with it. PermaSwag 18:12, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
PD is pretty decent for arenas b/c it means sigs don't get off once you push a kill. Mainbar what I listed above and I'll vet it. Wastrels is all the cover you need for diversion and inspired enchant is basically crap. cheers.--TahiriVeila 21:54, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- I've put Inspired in optionals, because having played the build for the past few days, I really like two enchant strips to get rid of attunements (making ele dps drop considerably) but I agree with the rest. What do you think about Overload as a cover hex? PermaSwag 22:36, 31 May 2012 (UTC)