PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard

The Admin noticeboard

There are a number of issues that can only be solved by an Administrator. The Admin noticeboard is one of the means through which users can contact Administrators in order to identify a problem that needs Administrative attention. Although editors are welcome to directly contact particular Administrators, posting on this page instead may be an easier way to let the entire Administrative group know of the issue (which may be particularly helpful since it increases the odds that at least one Administrator will see, and thus be able to respond to, the issue promptly).

There are only a limited number of things for which this page should be used. Many problems can be solved without Administrative intervention, and, thus, this page should be restricted to those issues that actually require an Administrator. Those are: blocking vandals, (un)deleting pages, (un)protecting pages, removing votes (either as per Real Vetting or because the build has been substantially edited), and mediation (only if the situation demands it).

Even in cases of vandalism, posting on this page needn't be the first step (and indeed should not be the first step). If you see vandalism, just go ahead and revert it, anyone has the power to do so. If it's a new article with no safe version to revert back to, tag it for deletion. In both cases you should leave a message in the talk page of that user to make him/her aware of why that kind of edit is unacceptable on PvXwiki. Only post here if that user persists in his/her actions, ignoring the warnings or if the content requires immediate Administrative attention (eg. if the material on the page is so offensive that should be immediately deleted).

(Be careful in case that user repeatedly insists on vandalizing, avoid a revert war; it's far better to temporarily leave the vandalized version of the page up until an admin has a chance to intervene.)

To create a new request: add an item to the bottom of the list below, providing a brief, neutral summary of the issue. As a sign of courtesy, also leave a message on the talk page of any other involved users so they are aware of this discussion. If you are alerting an admin of a vandal, use the {{IP}} template, with the first parameter being the vandal's IP or username. If you are requesting that vote(s) be removed, please use the {{Build}} template, with the first parameter being the build's name.

Please place new requests at the bottom of the corresponding issues heading.

General Issues

General issues include (un)deleting pages, (un)protecting pages, banning vandals, and moderating serious disputes. This section may also be used for miscellaneous issues as well as Administrative announcements. See resolved issues here.

Licensing version

See this. Page is protected, so one of you guys needs to fix it. --Wizardboy777 23:48, 21 September 2007 (CEST)

I've been talking to Gcardinal, and we're unsure which is correct, and obviously, we can't fix it until we know which is the problem, so no fix, for the moment. --Edru viransu//QQ about me/sysop 00:04, 22 September 2007 (CEST)

I think we have to use version 2.0. We took over quite some content from Guild Wiki, and they use 2.0 with no note on the possibility of silent upgrades. So we have to put at least the pages which originated there under 2.0. Anyway, we should put up a consistent statement asap. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 20:32, 3 October 2007 (CEST)

[1]

404 not found. — Skakid HoHoHo 16:13, 21 December 2007 (EST)

Shouldn't this be under coding issues? --GuildofMoses 16:34, 21 December 2007 (EST)

Website addresses are not codes. — Skakid HoHoHo 16:35, 21 December 2007 (EST)

[2] Also 404. --Mafaraxas 18:16, 22 December 2007 (EST)

This is the same issue as this. As in, they both don't work for the same reason. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 18:53, 22 December 2007 (EST)

Fixed. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 15:06, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Immensely rubbish follow-up suggestons

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Category:Premade_builds These things need a complete makeover, especcially the suggestions and follow-builds. This one for instance: http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/any_Prison_Assassin_%28primer_follow-up%29, They are full of typos as well. Seb2net (Talk) 17:03, 8 January 2008 (EST)

I agree. Especially about the second one. That build (and im assuming all of its class are) is in violation of PvX:AR. Quote from PvX:AR: "we do not attempt to retain builds that are purposefully inferior because they are designed for persons without access to money, skills, elites, etc." Note "without access to... skills." Because these begginners do not have access to the great number of skills that all the rest of us do does not mean that we should put on some horrible build that would get rated a .89 in the vetting system. I move to delete these builds. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 17:10, 8 January 2008 (EST)

However, the idea of having a guide section for new PvP'ers isn't half bad, we just need to direct them to builds which actually work :WELL. Seb2net (Talk) 17:12, 8 January 2008 (EST)

Note that the Premade builds section is strictly for historical documentation purposes, and are not to be mixed up with the main builds listing. They are suggestions from ANet, so read at your own risk. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 17:18, 8 January 2008 (EST)

In that case, we're going to have to scrap the SP guide entirely. --71.229 17:19, 8 January 2008 (EST)

I say anet has a few hundred people who can make builds, while pvx has tens of thousands (since we document other peoples making of builds, their build ideas go to wiki). So the way I see it, screw anets ideas and stick to our own. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 17:23, 8 January 2008 (EST)

But do you really want to give up the comedic value of the Hamstorm? --71.229 17:26, 8 January 2008 (EST)

We should make something like Template:Premade build message to put at the top of the premade builds and point out what rapta said. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:28, 8 January 2008 (EST)

I reckon we should have some sort of competition for the best "premade build" template XD (mainly because i want to make a template that could be used).PheNaxKian (T/c) 14:11, 13 January 2008 (EST)

98.192.25.143 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Second vandalism. Doesn't really look like it, but considering his first one was to the old IWAY, it should be treated like one imo. --71.229.204.25 20:19, 11 January 2008 (EST)

Thanks, Wizardboy. :D --71.229.204.25 20:24, 11 January 2008 (EST)

:D I blocked him for two weeks, then realized PvX:DIS says 1 month for second vandalism from an IP, so I had to figure out how to unblock him so I could block him for longer ;) ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 20:27, 11 January 2008 (EST)

First time you've used the unblock function, eh? :P --71.229.204.25 20:37, 11 January 2008 (EST)

Yeah, and it's hard to find. The only place I could find it was on Special:Ipblocklist ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 20:39, 11 January 2008 (EST)

That would be why I have that linked on my userpage :P -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 13:32, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Coolbam13 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Checkuser with User:Im2smart4u20 plx. –Ichigo724 13:08, 19 January 2008 (EST)

Well, not really necessary, as they have the same char names and all. But "they"'re voting on the same build with a 2 min diff. –Ichigo724 13:09, 19 January 2008 (EST)

Not identical IPs, but very similar. Plus, same character names and same guild. Someone else should look into/deal with it, though. I have a prior obligation in RL (:O) ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 13:14, 19 January 2008 (EST)

I use 2 computers with similar IP's. It's all too easy to have similar IPs on different account. It's blatently obvious that they are socks.Bob fregman 13:18, 19 January 2008 (EST)

This account has been permanently banned. -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 14:33, 19 January 2008 (EST)

71.253.245.205 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Vandalism on my userpage. See this. Im pretty sure it was User:Shogunshen, so u might want to check the IP of his account just to be sure. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 21:51, 20 January 2008 (EST)

Blocked for a week. Ressmonkey, atm, there are a number of people who'd love to do that. Don't throw around accusations, because it pisses people off. Plus, I already checkuser any IPs I ban. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 21:56, 20 January 2008 (EST)

Ok, it was just that it happens to coinside very nicely with this comment that pretty much destroyed his case, but that works 4 me. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 21:59, 20 January 2008 (EST)

Wow, I just saw this. I'm frankly appalled you'd accuse me. Shen(contribs) 15:39, 21 January 2008 (EST)

So you accuse shen of vandalizing your page because you think you beat him in an argument? — Vıctoȓƴışƴouȓş (talk/pvxcontribs) 16:31, 21 January 2008 (EST)

That and the fact that the edits were 5 minutes apart, so he was the last person I couldve pissed off. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 16:52, 21 January 2008 (EST)

LOL HAY GUYZ WATS GOIN ON? --71.229.204.25 16:57, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Llamas have funny names. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 16:59, 21 January 2008 (EST)

YOU GET OFF MAH TURF!--Shadowsin 03:35, 22 January 2008 (EST)

Guild of Deals (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Arrrgggh. People are finding my rants annoying again (on my "Things that annoy me" section). Can someone either tell them to shut up or tell me to remove them? --GuildofDeals 15:31, 23 January 2008 (EST)

Sigh, must you complain about every little harmless thing. An admins time is better spent scratching their ass then resolving this.Bob fregman 22:44, 23 January 2008 (EST)

Or you could get a blog and not waste server space. —ǥrɩɳsɧƴɖɩđđɭɘş 22:49, 23 January 2008 (EST)

Grinch, no. Take a look at my userpage for once. Though admittedly mine has less potential for offending people... -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 00:58, 24 January 2008 (EST)

How bout people grow up? That would be nice? His page isnt that offensive >.> The user who lodged the complaint i.e. CheeseSlayer, isnt even personally offended by whats on the page, seeing as none of it applys to him, he just felt like posting on Guild of Deals page for w/e reason, i really dont see it tbh. All he really said was "OMG that could offend someone!" Its his userpage, you dont have to read it, its not even on the mainstream userpages are where our opinions are supposed to go as not to clog up or talks, builds, or other places on the wiki. If you only read the last sentence get this its his userpage, you dont like it? there is a little x on the top right hand corner of your browser, click it.--Shadowsin 01:08, 24 January 2008 (EST)

Well, i'm agnostic, but if i was a mormon i'd probably find that offensive. tbh, i dont care because, unlike guild, i dont think crying about every little goddamned thing is the way to go. As i said before, this is a waste of time, posting on the admin noticeboard to ask them to tell him to remove them. Admin time better spent doing nothing.Bob fregman 09:00, 24 January 2008 (EST)

I recommend you just get rid of it. I'm neither a scientologist nor a mormon, but it's not that hard to see how it could offend people, and less QQing is always good. Mike Tycn(punch out) 09:10, 24 January 2008 (EST)

I did... now people, stop bitching please. If you don't like it, either don't read or ignore it and move on.--GuildofDeals 16:56, 24 January 2008 (EST)

Lolloll0l (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Suspected sock. Suspicious and unexplained vote on Build:Rt/any Spirit Light Support.Bob fregman 22:47, 23 January 2008 (EST)

Dealt with. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 22:59, 23 January 2008 (EST)

84.41.160.145 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Changed my userpage to a tacky purple... --GuildofDeals 07:22, 24 January 2008 (EST)

Or this --GuildofDeals 07:23, 24 January 2008 (EST)

And the QQ train never stops. You didnt even bother to change it back so who cares.Bob fregman 09:49, 24 January 2008 (EST)

If it's one-off vandalism, revert the change yourself. Admin intervention is only necessary for repeat offenders. -- Scottie_theNerd (argue/criticise/complain) 09:52, 24 January 2008 (EST)

happy nao? ~~ frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 09:53, 24 January 2008 (EST)

Way ahead of you. Mike Tycn(punch out) 11:06, 24 January 2008 (EST)

I would've done it myself, but I had to go to school. --GuildofDeals 16:55, 24 January 2008 (EST)

Reverting would've obviously taken way longer than posting it here... –Ichigo724 16:56, 24 January 2008 (EST)

African Nigger

Vandalism, not to mention the name. (vĭk'tə-rē ĭz yôrz) 20:24, 24 January 2008 (EST)

You don't even want to know how weird that post looked in RC.— Cheese Slaya (Talk) 20:27, 24 January 2008 (EST)

I believe it. (vĭk'tə-rē ĭz yôrz) 20:29, 24 January 2008 (EST)

Owned. -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 20:31, 24 January 2008 (EST)

Skakid says he's been blocked. Apparently, he was autoblocked because his IP was used by this guy... but the only two entries in the ipblocklist for autoblocks steemming from him are "#738" and "#741". And I have no idea what those mean, because they aren't IPs. Proxies, maybe? He says he's used proxies once or twice at school to log in. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 21:30, 24 January 2008 (EST)

Alright, the #'s are masks to hide the IPs. I unblocked them, so skakid should be fine now. It just means that whatever proxy/dynamic IP pool this guy was using gave him the same IP as skakid's comp. As the wikipedia article calls it, skakid was collateral damage. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 22:36, 24 January 2008 (EST)

How has my userpage become a hotspot for racist vandals? --GuildofDeals 15:13, 25 January 2008 (EST)

Negro of the Africa

Possible sock of above, vandalism. (vĭk'tə-rē ĭz yôrz) 20:32, 24 January 2008 (EST)

Also dealt with. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 21:24, 24 January 2008 (EST)

Gone. Mike Tycn(punch out) 21:25, 24 January 2008 (EST)

User:Frvwfr2/Test

What do ya think? For more in-depth classification for GvG stuff... But its very simple. It could be useful. ~~ frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 10:15, 25 January 2008 (EST)

It looks nice, but do we really need more specific categories? The function of the build is almost always outlined in the opening sentence, and rarely do builds cover more than one sub-category, if ever. -- Scottie_theNerd (argue/criticise/complain) 10:49, 25 January 2008 (EST)

Meh, I just thought it would be interesting. Idc really, but was bored at school lol. ~~ frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 14:58, 25 January 2008 (EST)

Then you need GvG Midline, Backline, etc. --GuildofDeals 15:14, 25 January 2008 (EST)

I think that was sort of the point... Swiftslash \\ (contributions *sandbox) 15:20, 25 January 2008 (EST)

Not needed at all. — Skadiddly[슴Mc슴]Diddles 16:04, 25 January 2008 (EST)

I have to agree with Skakid. Most experienced GvGers and etc (even me, and I never play GvG) know whose frontline, midline, etc. It's not like you'll see "Oh a Mesmer! Is it frontline?" --GuildofDeals 12:45, 26 January 2008 (EST)

It could be IW... But yeah, I agree. Just to show that we CAN specify more if we want too... Like for team builds we can tag it for spike, etc. ~~ frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 13:50, 26 January 2008 (EST)

IW is bad, if you have a mesmer on the frontline he's going to die or be ignored because you can't kill him but he's put too much into defense to be able to do anything. -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 13:57, 26 January 2008 (EST)

Calm down Armond, just tryin to be a jackass (me), wasn't a serious suggestion... ~~ frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 13:59, 26 January 2008 (EST)

Was just trying to point out why it's unnecessary. -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 14:00, 26 January 2008 (EST)

But hey, kudos to you if you go IW in GvG and win a little bit. Fine then, how about "Oh! A Necromancer! I wonder if it's a frontliner?" --GuildofDeals 20:52, 26 January 2008 (EST)

Special:RecentRatings

Last vote shows up twice. -Shen 12:36, 27 January 2008 (EST)

I pointed it out to Hhhippo already. He's working on it. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 12:44, 27 January 2008 (EST)

My bad. -Shen 12:47, 27 January 2008 (EST)

Build-Specific Issues

Build-Specific refers to any issue pertaining to the removal of votes, usually resolved by a Build Master or Administrator. See resolved issues here.

Note: If applicable, please identify specific votes to improve admin response time.

R/N Aspenwood Bomber (talk · rate)

Highly effective doesn't mean disproportionately low universality. Dark Morphon, InternetLol, Oblivion, Empty Orchestra. And remove Alpinista's too. -Shen 12:21, 26 January 2008 (EST)

Resolved. *Defiant Elements* +talk 17:02, 26 January 2008 (EST)

R/P Tiger's Fury Spear (talk · rate)

Requesting vote wipe, thanks in advance. -Shen 13:03, 26 January 2008 (EST)

Resolved. *Defiant Elements* +talk 17:02, 26 January 2008 (EST)

W/D Forceful Smasher (talk · rate)

Alpinista needs a reason for a 5-5-5. -Shen 19:15, 26 January 2008 (EST)

Resolved. Mike Tycn(punch out) 19:56, 26 January 2008 (EST)

W/N MoF Enraged Smash (talk · rate)

Cabaex needs a reason. All the votes with a reason along the lines of "good damage" need to be removed; there's no Deep Wound, no KD, and it's pathetically easy to counter. Kwiet Oblivion's reason can't be allowed, nor can Jahora's. -Shen 19:44, 26 January 2008 (EST)

Dealt with by Armond. Mike Tycn(punch out) 19:56, 26 January 2008 (EST)

W/any Devastating Hammer Spiker (talk · rate)

Jonidroid's a sock. -Shen 21:23, 26 January 2008 (EST)

Resolved. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 21:35, 26 January 2008 (EST)

Oops, missed Talyn's, which says this is superior to similar ones. -Shen 21:38, 26 January 2008 (EST)

W/any Rage of the Mokele (talk · rate)

Howlinghobo's a sock, Warrior Zez needs a better reason. RA is full of noobs. -Shen 09:21, 27 January 2008 (EST)

SwordofMorning's a sock too. -Shen 09:22, 27 January 2008 (EST)

Struck Warrior Zez's vote. -- Scottie_theNerd (argue/criticise/complain) 09:25, 27 January 2008 (EST)

So long as it's trashed! -Shen 09:29, 27 January 2008 (EST)

R/D VoS Archer (talk · rate)

Aubster needs a reason. -Shen 09:51, 27 January 2008 (EST)

Jahora's is wrong, there is cripple from Harrier's Grasp. -Shen 09:52, 27 January 2008 (EST)

W/any Pulverizing Backbreaker (talk · rate)

Alpinista lacks a reason. At Noopposingparty's vote: While PvXwiki allows votes that say "works well" given the build actually does for reasons mentioned on previous votes and perhaps on the talk page, a 5-5-5 on a build which has received Trash votes with only "works well" as a reason does not suffice. -Shen 09:59, 27 January 2008 (EST)

A/any Interrupt Assassin (talk · rate)

Enar needs a reason. -Shen 10:04, 27 January 2008 (EST)

As does Crusheer. -Shen 10:05, 27 January 2008 (EST)

As does Rawr. Bluemilkman/Talk To Me 10:09, 27 January 2008 (EST)

Rt/Me Expel Healing (talk · rate)

Decci does not have any contribs. -Shen 12:26, 27 January 2008 (EST)

N/D Mystic Aura Bomber (talk · rate)

Eloc's vote is wrong. Peter, Ferdarke, Warboss need a reason appropriate for the rating given. -Shen 13:24, 27 January 2008 (EST)

I got Ferdarke's and Warboss's. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 14:09, 27 January 2008 (EST)

P/Mo Burning Paragon (talk · rate)

A build that farms slowly is not a good build, availability for Paragons regardless. This is extremely inferior to D/Mo 130hp Dervish. Every vote that mentions how slow this build is needs to be stricken. -Shen 16:49, 27 January 2008 (EST)

If that's your logic surely everything is inferior to 55hp of one discription or another? you can't be that specific, with inferiority, i think it applies to similar builds more than anything (like 2 55 builds but one's just a crap load better than the other so the crap one is inferior) think of it as comparing fruit, you can say one apples better than another but you can't say that that apple is better than that apple (which is a banana....or something like that that makes sense XD)PheNaxKian (T/c) 17:17, 27 January 2008 (EST)

I'm talking about builds that are meant to farm the same areas. -Shen 17:18, 27 January 2008 (EST)

My point still remains valid though, a 55hp would most likely pwn just about every other farming build there is. You can say it has inferior farming capabilites to abother build, but you can't say it's just plain inferior, otherwise we'd have to wipe half the votes of the 130 derv for being inferior to a 55 (these are all jsut examples)(i'm calling it a night now anyway XD) PheNaxKian (T/c) 17:22, 27 January 2008 (EST)

Except for 55's work on Hydras that can't be KD'd. And this would be massacred by a hydra. I don't see your point. -Shen 17:26, 27 January 2008 (EST)

We've had a discussion about this already. Policy was written and it was moved to failed policies. This is exactly why I wanted someone to write that policy. The mindset of PvX is that some builds should be deleted because another profession can do it better, while other ones just stay up and don't say anything about the 55 being better. My view is that we should keep at least the best farmer from each profession, maybe the two best. But seeing how no one thought it was a good idea, all farmers except the 55 should be deleted because, according to PvXWiki:Build Deletion they are all inferior. Again, that's not going to happen though. Bluemilkman/Talk To Me 20:31, 27 January 2008 (EST)

D/Mo Melandru Support Spike (talk · rate)

Spikes great, has nice support, a voter disagrees and gave a 2. Voter thinks you disrupt spiking to constantly use draw, which that isn't the point of the build♪Destiny Of Kiest♪ (talk/pvxcontribs) 16:54, 27 January 2008 (EST)

How does it spike great? — Skadiddly[슴Mc슴]Diddles 16:57, 27 January 2008 (EST)

Uh? the chain deals a lot of damage, and has eremites as 1/2, crips, deepwounds, and you repeat... but thats now why it was put on the notice board :P♪Destiny Of Kiest♪ (talk/pvxcontribs) 17:09, 27 January 2008 (EST)

A whopping 2 attack spike? I cower in fear. — Skadiddly[슴Mc슴]Diddles 17:11, 27 January 2008 (EST)

Skakids right with his vote, you'd have to stop mid spike to use Draw....PheNaxKian (T/c) 17:12, 27 January 2008 (EST)

/seconded. This build is not as good as the other mels we have, you're sacrificing interrupts and the ims/wb for draw. Unequal trade.Bob fregman 17:14, 27 January 2008 (EST)

No, you dont have to stop mid-spike, its just extra support for RA♪Destiny Of Kiest♪ (talk/pvxcontribs) 17:24, 27 January 2008 (EST)

General Coding Issues

Coding refers to any issue or bug that needs to be dealt with by a Server Administrator (Gcardinal or Hhhippo). See resolved issues here. PvXcode related issues have their own section below.

Recent changes RSS and atom feeds

Don't seem to work. [3] [4]. Both of them tell me This feed contains code errors. --Wizardboy777(T/C) 00:45, 21 October 2007 (CEST)

I would love to get this working... Great for school where you can't always have RC open. It looks like a very simple fix too.

XML Parsing Error: xml declaration not at start of external entity Location: http://pvxwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&feed=rss Line Number 2, Column 1:<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> ^ Fixable I would think by moving that line, <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> to the very top. ~~ frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 09:47, 24 January 2008 (EST)

Rate Tab

This is directed at gcard or anyone who has coding experience. Is there anyway for you to be able to have the rate tab available while on the discussion tab? It's kinda annoying to go to the build tab again just to rate something after adding to the discussion. --Lost 05:43, 24 August 2007 (CEST)

I agree, it is a lil annoying... hardly priority though. Search system>this. -- frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 05:58, 24 August 2007 (CEST)

I'm working on it, but it's difficult since the tab on the talk page has to trigger an action on another page. Be patient... – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 23:22, 27 September 2007 (CEST)

There was a solution to this which poke used in his GWWiki tools on gww. I'll point you to it when I have the time too search for it. -- (gem / talk) 00:59, 7 November 2007 (CET)

That would be nice. Also along these lines, I was thinking that maybe users not logged in could see the ratings but not rate. Sometimes when I'm too lazy to log in I wish I could just see how a build is doing or etc. --GuildofDeals 19:23, 12 January 2008 (EST)

Rating Page protection

Can we get a way to protect a discussion page? It would be nice when a dispute like the Toucher happens... lock it so that votes can't be removed. ~~ frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 20:14, 30 October 2007 (CET)

Just to add on to Frvwfr2's comment: in that situation, it should lock the vote page in such a way that votes cannot be removed nor can new votes be added. *Defiant Elements* +talk 03:44, 1 November 2007 (CET)

That too. ~~ frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 01:31, 4 November 2007 (CET)

GraceExpired

Would it be possible to auto-tag Stubs and Trial builds that have been unchanged for 2 weeks, or even automatically enter them into this category? — Rapta (talk|contribs) 03:29, 6 November 2007 (CET)

I think this is still being worked on, its not that simple lol. --Peter 10:24, 29 November 2007 (CET)

Build Master Implementation

So, as per general consensus, we're planning on doing a trial run to test out the impact of BMs on PvX. From everything I've been told, it shouldn't be terribly hard to add the code necessary to create a BM category, but, it does have to be done. *Defiant Elements* +talk 01:01, 1 December 2007 (CET)

The code is implemented now. Build Masters can be promoted/demoted any time by the bcrats. Both BMs and sysops can roll back/restore votes. BM's votes have a weighting of 200%. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 10:18, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Nice! Shen(contribs) 10:20, 13 January 2008 (EST)

200%?! seems a tad high-but at least it's implemented =) thanks Hippo/GC (and anyone else who worked on it =P) PheNaxKian (T/c) 10:31, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Banned Users Voting

Hasn't been resolved. — UberizAwesome 18:19, 27 December 2007 (EST)

Fix this now please. Because when certain users who rarely do anything BUT vote keep breaking 1RV with votes, banning isn't much of a threat because it doesn't stop the voting, and since they don't contribute, it doesn't matter if they can't >.> ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 21:43, 16 January 2008 (EST)

Also, banned BMs can still remove votes :P ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 21:40, 24 January 2008 (EST)

Easily fixable, demote with ban. If a demotion is not desireable, they can either be trusted or re-promoted when the ban is over.Bob fregman 23:21, 24 January 2008 (EST)

Well, the fix will probably just stop banned users from accessing the ratings page, which would also stop BMs. I just put it up here cause skakid said he could still remove votes while he was accidentally banned :P ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 23:33, 24 January 2008 (EST)

Preferences

Hopefully this is just me, but when I go to change my "nickname", my uhh... de facto sig, I need to change my preferences at least twice till it stays. hen [contribs] 20:56, 27 December 2007 (EST)

Happens to me sometimes too. I'll sometimes change my sig, but when I go to use it, it reverts to my previous sig. Yes, I do save it too. --GuildofDeals 08:04, 28 December 2007 (EST)

More of mediawiki issue. It is just so much stuff going on with proxy, caching and so on, things like that can get lost in the way. gcardinal 11:59, 31 December 2007 (EST)

my stalklist

last time i checked it was "my watchlist" -.- cKow^Dont 16:46, 29 December 2007 (EST)

Personally, I'm just glad I didn't break the wiki when I changed it. :P Talk:Main Page#Stalklist -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 16:53, 29 December 2007 (EST)

Just for the record, Special:Watchlist still directs properly. -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 16:53, 29 December 2007 (EST)

It's ok now.. just looked wierd^^ cKow^Dont 21:38, 29 December 2007 (EST)

Rate tab

Would it be possible to have the rate tab also show how many ratings the build has received, and maybe even what its current rating is? Maybe like "rate (0.00, 0 votes)" or something like that. As it is, anonymous users, users without confirmed emails, and users without 8 contribs can't even view the ratings page. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 18:11, 6 January 2008 (EST)

More ratings page stuff

The message on the ratings page when you don't have enough contributions is improper English and hard to understand. Right now it says:

Contributions required.
Looks like you a new to PvXwiki. For security reasons we requiere some edits\contributions to be made before voting is allowed.
You can start by adding some info about yourself to your userpage.

I would change it to:

Contributions Required
PvXwiki requires you to have at least 8 contributions before voting. A contribution is any edit to any page.
A good way to get your first few contributions would be by adding some information about yourself to your userpage.

¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 18:17, 6 January 2008 (EST)

Implemented. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 14:18, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Contributions Tab

I think userpages should have a tab for Contributions. This makes life generally easier if you're interested in some things someone has done or if you are checking contribs to prove/disprove sockpuppetry. It would make life a lot more easier. IDK if it could be done 'cause I'm a coding (Wikicode and HTML) noob. --GuildofDeals 19:21, 12 January 2008 (EST)

There is one? Shen(contribs) 19:32, 12 January 2008 (EST)

Go to any user page or user talk page, scroll down to the toolbox, and click "User contributions". ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 22:41, 12 January 2008 (EST)

Told you I was a WikiNoob. --GuildofDeals 15:40, 23 January 2008 (EST)

If your contributions are deleted, you can't rate builds

Extremely minor, but still there. If you have 8 contribs, but then have 1 or more deleted, you no longer get to vote. Found it using the sock I use for testing stuff. — Teh Uber Pwnzer 23:31, 12 January 2008 (EST)

That's because they aren't contribs anymore. That's the only reason I don't have 1000ish more contribs than I do - I delete all of them :P ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 23:38, 12 January 2008 (EST)

So, if I was a new contributer and made a build and it got deleted, then I never contributed anything at all? — Teh Uber Pwnzer 06:40, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Well, you did, there just isn't a record of it anymore. And because of that, we can't checkuser you. Which is why we recommend making a userpage, because that won't be deleted unless you request it. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 12:04, 13 January 2008 (EST)

User Ratings

I made a preliminary version of My Ratings: Special:UserRatings. At the moment you can only use it to see a list of your own ratings (and only the most recent 200). It will be extended to show other user's ratings (and all of them) later. Please test. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 14:29, 13 January 2008 (EST)

I have a vote posted twice (i'll put a screen up in a mo)PheNaxKian (T/c) 14:36, 13 January 2008 (EST)

It's working perfect for me, just what I would want. Would it be possible to put it up there next to my contributions for the final version? Also, special:myratings? And we would find other people's votes as Special:Ratings/Name here. — Victoryisyours (talk/pvxcontribs) 14:41, 13 January 2008 (EST)

here Also thanks for making it =P PheNaxKian (T/c) 14:44, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Same thing happened with me. And this is really cool, thx. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 14:54, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Strange. Is it always the oldest vote that is doubled? – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 15:19, 13 January 2008 (EST)

My last one's doubled, also.

Shen(contribs) 15:25, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Double last line fixed. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 17:23, 13 January 2008 (EST)

I wanna see Eloc's :p. — Teh Uber Pwnzer 15:21, 13 January 2008 (EST)

I want to see guild of deal's. But as he usually reates build bad, so they get deleted and then they dont show up on it. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 15:31, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Removed ones show. Lord Belar 15:50, 13 January 2008 (EST)

No I meant the build gets deleted, so they dont show up then. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 16:01, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Oh, right. Still, it's just like contribs. Lord Belar 16:07, 13 January 2008 (EST)

A deleted build (that link goes to Build:Bonsai nine/Mo/Me Signet Smiting Monk) is showing up on mine. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 19:26, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Is anyone able to change/delete inapropriate votes?--Frans 10:37, 17 January 2008 (EST)

BMs and admins can remove inappropriate votes. If you think votes somewhere are bad, post a request higher up in the 'Build-specific issues' section (there are instructions at the top of this page). ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 13:08, 19 January 2008 (EST)

Rollback

Don't know where to put it so i put it here, but can we plant a edit on rollbacked votes? For example, if you make a typo, you gotta first restore it, and then rollback again, which is pretty annoing. - Unexist 04:52, 20 January 2008 (EST)

For New Players

I had no idea which section to put this, so i put it here. I think that we need a section for new players to give them specific details on how to make a build, how to put images on it, how to make links to other websites(like youtube for an example of the build) and also how to transfer web images to PVX, and lastly, how to make your homepage. When i joined(about 3 weeks ago, but ive known this website since it came out), i had trouble doing this, and i still dont know how to make pictuers, so i think that this would be helpful. I Am Jebus 15:23, 21 January 2008 (EST)

I echo this sentiment. As much as it pains me to reference GWW, we need some sort of Welcome Mat. Perhaps a contest? Shen(contribs) 15:29, 21 January 2008 (EST)

However, any page I envision would need some to make some controversial generalities, of which I would actually look forward to discussing in the course of such a contest. Shen(contribs) 15:31, 21 January 2008 (EST)

And it'd also be imperative we make our policy page significantly tidier, if we were to point newbs to them. This'd be, then, a huge endeavor. Shen(contribs) 15:33, 21 January 2008 (EST)

"Hi there. Welcome to PvXwiki. As you probably suck, here's some help. kthx." --71.229.204.25 15:34, 21 January 2008 (EST)

I SECOND THE MOTION!!!!! I Am Jebus 15:35, 21 January 2008 (EST)

From the sounds of things it's more of a "how to use wiki crap" rather than "how to make good builds" so i would say it's a somewhat good idea (jsut for those who have no idea what so ever) but tbh i think the other policies just about cover everything we need to know, but i think making the key policies with said information in them more prominent on the main page might eb a good idea, so it's something you instantly see kind of thing.PheNaxKian (T/c) 16:49, 21 January 2008 (EST)

That was kind of the idea behind this. I just haven't really done that much with it yet. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:45, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Awright, will u let other people edit that to help? I Am Jebus 18:02, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Yea, anyone who wants to help out with that is welcome to. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 18:13, 21 January 2008 (EST)

BM Recent ratings

how about marking bms in the recent ratings list? - Y0_ich_halt 16:01, 21 January 2008 (EST)

PvXcode Issues

Coding issues related to PvXcode. See also PvXwiki talk:PvXcode. Resolved issues are moved here.

Seed of Life

Seed of life doesn't seem to be effected by @xx. see here SoL is set @7 (at rank 7 as indicated in the note section) this should make it last 4 seconds, however it still says it lasts 1...5 seconds. PheNaxKian (T/c) 23:15, 21 November 2007 (CET)

That's true of all title-track skills I believe. *Defiant Elements* +talk 23:54, 21 November 2007 (CET)

Not all-i think on the main page there's something down near the bottom about it and it has something to do with the asura title track where @xx works.PheNaxKian (T/c) 23:07, 22 November 2007 (CET)

Cool idea i think

Could we maybe get a bar sayin like Crit rate and DPS on weapon based builds? like for a warr have Crit rate based on wep mastery, and a DPS based on wep attribute. Mehbe not worth it, but useful nonetheless. ~~ frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 02:22, 10 December 2007 (CET)

Would it be like base DPS? I dunno how useful that might be in some builds. Shen(contribs) 02:38, 10 December 2007 (CET)

True... Maybe just crit hit chance then, but that has negligible use except for on Sins, but then they use a lot of crit increasing skills too. Maybe just forget it. ~~ frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 02:42, 10 December 2007 (CET)

I think that would be quite kool, but then you have to think of how to get it only on rangers/warriors/ass. etc. and not jsut casters with a wand -.-. also on the idea of adding things-equipment template code(s) maybe? would mean we don't have to just list it....i think (would have to for PvE builds i guess....)PheNaxKian (T/c) 21:16, 11 December 2007 (CET)

PvE Attributes Counter

It would be nice. Basically the ability to put the PvE rank into the attributes and let it calculate how the skill works. Just my opinion IMO. --GuildofMoses 10:16, 24 December 2007 (EST)

[Skill@1...12], if ever the need arose. One can also click the actual skill. Though it'd be pointless to have a set attribute for such a variable attribute. Should a minimum value be prudent, simply note so. Shen ^{has cookies} 10:22, 24 December 2007 (EST)

That doesn't work properly though, it displays what rank you should be at but it doesn't supply the relevant information, what damage/healing etc. it does it still has the range in.PheNaxKian 13:49, 27 December 2007 (EST)

Perhaps we should also have a system where it shows how many attribute points there are left over, displayed next to the Attributes and Skills section of a build.

PvX Convert/Decode

They both don't work. — ク Eloc 貢 16:31, 25 December 2007 (EST)

seems like some links are wrong (in the toolbox on the mainpage and the redirects of the submit buttons). just modify the urls manually: add "/wiki" between "...pvxwiki.com" and "/index.php" well.. Vespertine 09:16, 29 December 2007 (EST)

http://www.pvxwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:PvXdecode should link to: http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Special:PvXDecode on the main page and the Submit Query button code is broken as well. Rolo 19:23, 3 January 2008 (EST)

Fixed. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 15:08, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Build Template

Would it be possible to add the blank build template on to the toolbar instead of Styles and Formatting-> View Source->Copy->Pasting it? Would be helpful imo.--Victoryisyours (talk/RfA) 17:54, 26 December 2007 (EST)

User:Teh Uber Pwnzer/Template:Blank Build imo. — UberizAwesome 03:09, 30 December 2007 (EST)

Well, we have the Bold text on the toolbar, which all you have to do is put 3 's around the word. And since this is a build site, you might as well have the build template on the toolbar. Victoryisyours (talk/RfA) 20:11, 31 December 2007 (EST)

You mean the toolbar on the editor? Cuz that would actually be pretty awesome. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 02:57, 1 January 2008 (EST)

Yes that one. — Victoryisyours (talk/RfA) 18:30, 8 January 2008 (EST)

New messages

Everytime I go to main page, it says I have a new message, but I don't. — ク Eloc 貢 03:59, 29 December 2007 (EST)

it's a cache error. — Skadiddly[슴Mc슴]Diddles 03:00, 1 January 2008 (EST)

I think this goes here.

Uh... --71.229 08:58, 3 January 2008 (EST)

Looks fine to me-I can see the icon....PheNaxKian 09:07, 3 January 2008 (EST)

All (most?) images show up like that when they're first uploaded. My guess is a cache error, but I'm probablky wrong. — Skadiddly[슴Mc슴]Diddles 09:24, 3 January 2008 (EST)

o i c. Yeah, clearing my cache fixed it. --71.229 09:57, 3 January 2008 (EST)

Yea, all the wintersday entries were doing that for me when I first uploaded them. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 12:57, 4 January 2008 (EST)

I'm running FF. Any idea why I never have to clear my cache? 'Cause I always hear about it, but it does nothing at all for me. cedave _{(contributions_buildpage)} 17:00, 5 January 2008 (EST)

I'm running FF and i just have it set to clear cache when it's closed =), saves me having to do it =pPheNaxKian (T/c) 17:46, 5 January 2008 (EST)

Something is wrong with PvE section

Those 'a'-s are weird. Dunno why, i reinstalled Windows now. ĐONT*TALK 18:17, 4 January 2008 (EST)

I don't have that problem. -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 00:10, 5 January 2008 (EST)

Me neither :/ –Ichigo724 00:12, 5 January 2008 (EST)

It's fixed now-when GC changed the coulours on the main page he accidentally put an A at the end of each of the builds somehow (Wizzardboy explained on the main page i believe)PheNaxKian (T/c) 08:16, 5 January 2008 (EST)

There isn't a link to Team Arenas in the PvP Builds by category section. Zig 18:17, 13 January 2008 (EST)

There should be... it displays for me... what browser are you using? *Defiant Elements* +talk 18:40, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Hhhm im running firefox let me see if it works for IE.....very odd....it displays for IE but not firefox. Zig 12:55, 19 January 2008 (EST)

Focused Shot

Does not show the "+" in front of the bonus damage. example: Focused ShotFactionsRanger. Marksmanship 12Focused ShotBow AttackIf Focused Shot hits, you strike for +22 damage but all of your other attack skills are disabled for 3 seconds.52 --- Ressmonkey (talk) 14:58, 19 January 2008 (EST)

Pious Assault

This skill needs to be updated. [5] Greevar 12:29, 21 January 2008 (EST)

A lot of skills need updating due to the recent update. But its a temporary testing update, so I assume the admins are waiting to update them before a-net says its final. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 12:48, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Build:Team_-_GvG_Balanced_Split

Getting Missing skill. Id=1259; Name=gw as an error when I try to view the page. --Tab Moo 11:59, 23 January 2008 (EST)

Fixed. Closing pvxbig's is good. Also, adding &action=edit to the URL is good. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 15:56, 23 January 2008 (EST)

Keyboard Shortcut

I'm not certain this is the place, but it seems the best place. The Alt-Shift-X shortcut for Random Build no longer works. - Ayumbhara 16:50, 23 January 2008 (EST)