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One does not simply ban a rask

What level are you now? I'm working 7 day weeks on graveyard but after christmas I'll prolly be pretty active. They.jpg 20:11, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

One does not simply call do-gooder users retards. You can call them autistic niggers if you like, but don't write it anywhere. -- Cɥıǝɟʇɐıu Alǝx 23:18, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
Implying I actually give a fuck that I got banned. If someone is acting retarded I'm going to call them on it, I don't give a fuck how noble their intentions are. They.jpg 01:35, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
Ranger's level 54, warrior is 24. Would be higher (especially the warrior), but I got some pretty grueling shifts myself this past week. 21:43, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
I bought another alt account, ordered enough parts to put a second botting tower together as well as upgrade my current rig. Also got a 39" monitor for myself. 11:46, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

You're not the boss of me!

You're never on skype/msn. I feel like you and relyk are eloping behind my back. They.jpg 14:22, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

I've not even been on GW2 in a while. So many other games (and work)! I just come here a few minutes every day to see if I have any excuse to ban someone. -- Toraen confer 18:14, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
GW2 is mega boring, been playing dark souls and catching up on anime mostly. I harass big every day so I'm never lonely :> They.jpg 17:39, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
gw2 still has servers up? -Auron 07:59, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
unfortunately. They.jpg 02:10, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
gw2 is fun when you don't play it.--Relyk 19:11, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
I am become fun. They.jpg 01:13, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

no one fucking harasses me anymore. :< Danny 02:28, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

But everyone loves me! How have you been? I am never actually on MSN/Skype anymore. Also, to everyone on this page, should we follow Guildwiki's lead? -- Toraen confer 07:20, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
Sure, I haven't seen any real ip contributions that couldn't have been sorted by my logging in, and there haven't been any new contributing users since october. Would you just lock it now, or would you put up a banner like dr ish intended to do before getting vandalspammed to death? C/A -- 11:49, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
Banner + Community portal/news post first. It wouldn't hurt anything to do so and I'm not in a rush to close the wiki. It'll just have to happen at some point since I'm not going to be here every day to block trolls and bots and set up abuse filters. And I'm the only remaining active admin. -- Toraen confer 18:59, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
Sad day, but I agree with your assessment. You can go ahead with it whenever imo. -Auron 02:53, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
K, the notices are up. Short time limit since I doubt there's going to be much outcry. -- Toraen confer 03:10, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Demon sinonix

I lol'd at that one. Holy shit. They.jpg 06:39, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

I think what happened is users whose accounts were banned or something are now referred to by their IP's (they got deleted, right?). I've already seen one or two cases from looking through a few ratings. --jī·gō·dǔ - 0:49, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Yeah that removal was from before anyone had provided an explanation. Also, it's not their IP that's shown, but the IP of whoever is viewing the page (so you should see your IP while I see mine). -- Toraen confer 02:48, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Dear toyota

How is school/work? They.jpg 02:45, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

I graduated last May :P. Work is dumb right now because of new management that doesn't quite know wtf they're doing (also it's a part-time thing that I'm desperately looking to get out of). -- Toraen confer 23:23, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Stuff if you are checking

Can you protect User:Malokai92/sandbox so I can test dpl? Main Page/Builds is wonky due to randomcount I think, which I can't mess with.--Relyk 04:30, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

ok what the hell happened to that. btw relyk, just use User:Chieftain Alex/Code Sandbox. /close enough. - Chieftain Alex 09:52, 11 May 2013 (UTC)


Template:Main Page/Top, typo on it's--Relyk 00:44, 25 May 2013 (UTC)


Enjoy the promotion, it comes with a whole 150% pay rise! ~ PheNaxKian talk 20:22, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

1031.jpg --jī·gō·dǔ - 22:33, 26 Jun 2013 (UTC)
Let the wheel wars begin! A new misery 07:48, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
Toraenwiki is now a reality. -- Toraen confer 22:38, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
I waited so long for this day.--Relyk 07:22, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

beep boop

How are you toraenwiki? They.jpg 22:48, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Guh... it is too hot here, and no sleep. Also why haven't I set that as my display name yet. -- Toraen confer 02:30, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Fix'd. Seems like my userpage will remain Toraen, but at least edit history and RC have it right! -- Toraenwiki 02:37, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
lulz, I've been playing PSO2 and dicking around looking for work. I've got two AC's in my house though so it's pretty nice. They.jpg 00:48, 22 July 2013 (UTC)


nice to see people still around editing, even if only occasionally! -Auron 18:41, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Sometimes I'm not at work or playing Borderlands. :3 -- Toraenwiki 19:42, 5 September 2013 (UTC)


I have a boreas speed clear build - well several of the builds and I was wondering how I could add it all here? I can tell what I know, but I'm not that familiar with how to do up the page. I know it is a speed clear done by an ally, but not very popular, yet new. Aludeni (talk) 17:59, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

The new user guide has a section on creating build pages. You'll probably want to take a look at the formatting of an existing SC build as well so you can lay it out correctly. If you need any help with something the guide doesn't cover (or if something in it isn't clear) just let me know and I'll try to help. -- Toraenwiki 22:14, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

one other user

/waves. lol - Chieftain Alex 19:29, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

/wave. Happy (belated) Birthday btw! -- Toraenwiki 05:37, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
(checks date) - happy birthday! - Chieftain Alex 08:12, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Come help us re-make PvX for GW2 on [1]. I'm such shit at backend wiki stuff, I'm struggling at figuring out how to make Build: and Archive spaces. You can imagine how awful things would go if I attempted to implement a ratings tab ^___^--TV/Jake23:09, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

sup Toraen, anon editing accidentally switched on? CA - 01:24, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
also no captcha. CA 01:26, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
Thank you all for providing test cases for the filter. @TV I'll take a look at the site later. Alex will probably be more useful at actual code though. -- Toraenwiki 06:28, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Lol, he didn't learn his lesson the first time. A new misery 16:52, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

you honestly didn't think that was minion did you?.. - Chieftain Alex 18:26, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
TV went through being a BM and still wants to run a builds wiki. -- Toraenwiki 18:51, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
^ A new misery 12:33, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Hello, old friend

Can't believe you actually still lurk around these corners. --DANDY ^_^ -- 21:46, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Doesn't everyone? A new misery 11:52, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave! Brandnew. 14:16, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
Welcome to the Hotel Cali-PvX? --DANDY ^_^ -- 18:43, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
They stab it with their steely knives, but they just can't kill the beast. A new misery 07:26, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
I have to do bureaucrat things around here, I never rest. -- Toraenwiki 16:21, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Ermagerd can you help meh

First of all, hi, long time no speak! Second of all, with all your wikiwizardry, I don't know if you would be able to find an old image I uploaded to this wiki? It was basically an image of one of my characters with a gold cape, no idea what the image would have been called, but is there some sort of upload history for users? If you find anything then let me know! Thanks! Frostels 20:55, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

It wouldn't happen to have been this would it? -- Toraenwiki 13:45, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

N/any Curses Support Hero (talk · rate)

Should be in Great or even meta now that I took Defile off the mainbar (ironically I was curious about why you left it until I saw your vote, being afraid we'd have different opinions on the skill). Vc Assassin's 3-3 vote is afaik the only thing holding it back, but technically he's at least tested it. One could argue that if his 3 melee build became worse by bringing MoP + physical support over a mesmer, then something is wrong with his bars. Rather than temper with an honest vote given in good faith (although apparent ignorance), we could also just override it by slapping a meta tag on it, then describe in the Frequency-section when to run the build. --DANDY ^_^ -- 11:51, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Tbh I should have just removed Vc's vote a long time ago. Somehow he still noticed zero difference in output even with 3 melee to boost, so he couldn't have been balling foes. MoP's got a long recharge so you can't just fire-and-forget with it like Splinter Weapon (which he did note as improving the damage). He never responded after my initial post to his talk though (I was hoping to get more out of him) so I'll never know the specifics of how he played with it. -- Toraenwiki 17:09, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Somebody ought to retire you

Or you'll keep doing this into the 2030's.

Also, we got all the old shits in facebook group and actually played tombs yesterday. Could add you if you want. --DANDY ^_^ -- 10:41, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Oh damn. That might actually be appealing enough to log in again. Though my PvP skills must have sunken to exciting new lows by now. -- Toraenwiki 14:35, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
Why was I not invited for tombs? ): Brandnew. 15:25, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
Need to ask gw players on facebook to add you to the group. My username on fb is Dandybot so it should be fairly simple to find me if you got nobody else to ask. --DANDY ^_^ -- 15:39, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Shit people still play gw? I just came back. Most of the accounts I lended out got banned, so I only have 6 left lol. Still filthy rich though. They.jpg 18:39, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

I haven't recently logged in to GW the 1st (relatively, was a little over a month ago). I have logged into GW2 though and would like to state for the record that HoT was overall rather disappointing. I can't believe they sold it for the price of a full game (I got it discounted at least). -- Toraenwiki 21:25, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
Never looked back at gw2 after I let relyk salvage my legendary in the name of science. Games just a facebook version of Tera, except every class feels underpowered instead of strong. They.jpg 23:53, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
Been testing it because gf and both brothers like it. I consider it an evolution from tab space to tab + 1 (which is considerably faster and strains muscles less) and you don't even need to make builds for it to work, nor do anything else for that matter. In other words, it's all very boring. --DANDY ^_^ -- 17:27, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
Heart of Thorns mobs actually require more attention, and the meta events there require more thought than maxing your DPS rotation but they are unfortunately only in the last 4 zones of the entire game. -- Toraenwiki 02:48, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Requesting help with account activation

Good day, Toraen. I'm in need of your help since GWPvX does not accept the link specified in my e-mail confirmation letter. The error I'm receiving is "Sorry, you must be logged in to use this feature. A valid account was not found", when in fact it does exist under the alias Cyber_Smoke. I'm not sure what exactly went wrong during PvX@wikia >> GWPvX account relocation process, but I'm not anyhow able to request a new confirmation code into my mailbox since the Wiki displays absolutely identical "Sorry, you must be logged in to use this feature" error upon any attempt to resend verification email from Account Preferences page. I would be really grateful if you could fix this issue of mine with a manual allocation of the proper account status. Thank you. Cyber Smoke (talk) 11:11, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

If your account was from before the wikia->curse move, then you only had a limited amount of time to reclaim it. We then later had a database merge with the general curse network, which would have linked any reclaimed accounts to a Curse account. From what I can see, the pre-existing Cyber Smoke account was never reclaimed (and this is no longer possible iirc), and its contributions do not show up under your username. You seem to be editing from the Curse account Cyber Smoke though and you are already auto-confirmed according to my user rights viewer. Are there any specific features that aren't working for you (such as rating builds)? I may have to let Curse know and see if your account is just stuck in some sort of limbo state here due to the oddities of multiple database moves. -- Toraenwiki 10:25, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
Yes, rating builds just doesn't work and returns "Read-only mode: Your e-mail address is not authenticated" error. The problem is that I'm not able to confirm it, since the Wiki considers me "not logged in" upon attempts to access such functions. Cyber Smoke (talk) 18:10, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
If you have an alternate email address you can try, it might be worth trying to change it at rather than through the wiki and authenticate there. Otherwise, I think it's very likely they'll ask me to request that you submit a support ticket at (pretty early here, so I can't try to kick this up just yet). OOeyes (talk) 08:04, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi. Like I mentioned before, I can't even change it on the Wiki, since any attempt to do so by clicking Change email address in user Preferences section returns Error - Change Email: You must be logged into PvXwiki to perform this action error (checked with multiple browsers), and at the same time, both Curse and PvXWiki accounts are authorized within the system. I've changed my Curse account's e-mail 10 minutes ago, though, but haven't yet received any confirmation e-mails, and probably am out of luck to. Cyber Smoke (talk) 00:22, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
This might also properly sync the accounts: Special:WikiAccountRecovery. If neither that or the email change helps, I'll find out if this needs to be punted to support or the wiki dev team to get it sorted out. OOeyes (talk) 01:08, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
Neither this, or the e-mail change helped. When I enter account data & its password into this form, it simply returns to the previous, 2 blank fields state upon procession of the data set off with Look Up Account button. One of the possible sources of the problem might lie within the fact that at first I reclaimed the Wiki account and only then created the main one at Curse (with an underscore in it). Chances are high their programmers didn't foresee someone might be performing such a move, which comprises its own part of quite understandable sense, or at least, that seems so in my eyes. Cyber Smoke (talk) 02:19, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
The reclamation process should have created the Curse account for you. Since the wiki dev team is out of office by now, I'm going to suggest that you file a support ticket so they can check things out on the Curse account side. If they can't help, they should kick it to the wiki dev team themselves. I'm afraid I don't have the necessary access to either account system to investigate further. OOeyes (talk) 03:22, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Red Link

I tried to send a link to my guildies, [that link being to my user page]. One of them told me it's a red link and has no text, but I know it does. Ever have that sort of issue? I know it's like a tech support thing but I double-checked the link and I sent the right thing. XxxRxxx (talk) 03:40, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

I don't know why they aren't reaching that page, I get to it just fine clicking on that link. Try linking to your profile: [2] and tell them to click the User wiki tab I guess. -- Toraenwiki 17:49, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
This is probably the same issue another wiki manager recently ran into, that being that UserWiki: ended up redirecting him to his IP rather than his username (meaning User:x.x.x.x instead of User:username as expected). There's a bug report in for it, but since it was just recently discovered, I don't have any ETA on when it'll be fixed. Using User: as an alternative shouldn't trigger the issue, I'd think, so that's a viable workaround for now. OOeyes (talk) 18:25, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

RA meta

Hi, I'm a noob when it comes to pvx, could you tag this test build as meta? :P Rits are everywhere this month. When the flux is over it'll probably end up being archived, or maybe switched to Rt/E with Glimmering. Oh btw, what's up with the skill tooltips? They don't seem to work. --DefinitelyNotHanz (talk) 12:26, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

The skill tooltip issue was reported here but I guess Curse forgot about it. You can tag things as meta yourself if you so desire. I'm no more qualified (much less tbh since I haven't played GW in months) than you are. -- Toraenwiki 17:11, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Added to talk page

Hey Toraen. It seems that you are the head of this wiki (I found your profile through your bot lol). I just posted the 7-Hero ZWay build on PVX, as I received permission by the original author to do so. He posted his huge build on GWGuru but since it is about to shut down, it was going to be more difficult to find it back. What I'm asking is, I read that builds or pages not actively editted in 2 weeks or more would get deleted, but since the activety here is low, I am afraid that it might just slip away because it is simply in the testing category.
If possible, could you check it out, or have people check it out and vote on it? Does this still happen on PVX? The reason why I added the build is because it's a hugely popular build now, capable of doing almost everything with only 7 heroes, including tons of High-End areas that would otherwise require specific builds ONLY for the area it was designed for. I know of a looooot of people who run ZWay in GW nowadays. Since activety is going back up again (many old players are returning and new players are still surfacing), it would be nice to have the build available for use. Do you have an eta of when it can go in good/great/meta? Sorry for all the questions! Kind regards Joris --Jorre22225 (talk) 18:58, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Builds only get deleted for inactivity if they remain in the trial or stub states for 4 weeks (as these two categories are for builds not yet completed). Testing builds remain in testing until they get the required votes or if they violate PvX:WELL (you don't have to worry about that one, Zway isn't a copy of an already posted build). While you could in theory change its category to Meta right now, I only have your word for it and the guru thread. I can't know if the build is truly widespread (which is what the meta category is reserved for) or if it's just popular among those who frequent guru (ie, not dissimilar from a guild comp). If you could, encourage people to come here and vote on it so that it can legitimately be rated. At the very least, the build is at no risk for sudden deletion right now. -- Toraenwiki 12:02, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Build ratings

Hi! I've been giving some of the older (and outdated) pve builds on this site a rating that puts them under the great category. Am I allowed to change the rating on these builds main pages? Cruzberry (talk) 13:53, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

If the overall rating is over the threshold after your vote, then yes. Preferably there should be at least 5 votes for a category assignment (or re-assignment), but we stopped rigorously enforcing that when we literally had less than 5 active voters (if you are the only voter on a particular build, please don't change the category tag though). If I think a category change you make is questionable I'll discuss it with you. -- Toraenwiki 22:58, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
Oh, hold on. I see that these votes were mostly to SC dungeon builds, which I don't have much experience with. It's fine to say a build is inferior to another (actually this would formally be a WELL/ARCHIVE issue, but whatever) but you haven't provided much supporting reason for that in your votes. Sometimes these were existing builds that just got displaced by a later and more efficient build but it's difficult for me to judge that. It'd be best to mention specific reliability issues with the inferior builds and maybe how the superior builds avoid that issue (and/or compare average run times if there's a relevant difference). If a build has truly been replaced in the meta (no one forms for it over other builds but it was common at one time) then we can just archive it instead of it sitting in Good forever pending more votes (since your single vote isn't dropping them to trash). If it's still run a noticeable amount even with a superior build in the meta then it can make its way to the good section (but don't vote balance to get it there). -- Toraenwiki 00:20, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

So what does it mean that you are pro?

^A new misery 18:53, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Not a clue. That tag is actually kinda annoying. -- Toraenwiki 10:29, 25 August 2016 (UTC)